Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-10-03 Thread IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Thanks a lot for your information.

Thanks & Regards

Amanullah
IT Enterprise Applications


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Elry
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 5:10 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

Well...

In the past I have completed a lot of R&D on ITIL software vendors for
pure research or for the creation/response to RFP's.

Amanullah if it is research you are doing - then I would suggest EMA.
I don't know how well funded you are to do research, but you can set
up a free account with EMA and look at some of the free advice they
offer:


(1) Website

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com

(2) ITIL Process Research

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com/coverage/ITIL.php

(3) IT Vendor Research

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com/vendors/subscriptions.php

(4) IT Management Solution Center (This is a free tool for getting
some basic knowledge on vendors).

http://itsolutions.enterprisemanagement.com/


I hope this helps.

Good luck on the research.

Be sure to send me a copy when you are done.


On Sep 28, 11:38 am, David Sanders
 wrote:
> For a list of ITIL processes and toolsets take a look 
> athttp://www.pinkelephant.com/PinkVERIFY/
> And follow the 4 links at the bottom of the page... there are many more
> products than the four you list.  The pages list which ITIL processes each
> vendor is verified for
>
> David Sanders
> Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email david.sand...@westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
> webhttp://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:16 PM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> Hi Elry,
>
> Thanks for your response. I am doing research on it, my research topic is
> "Towards ITIL Processes Standardization". I want to study the processes of
> all companies(e.g. BMC Remedy, HP Openview, IBM Tivoli, and CA inc) which
> are using ITIL concepts. For BMC Remedy I have all processes of Incident
> Management, Problem Management, Change Management, Service Level Management,
> and Release Management. I don't have processes of HP Openview, IBM Tivoli,
> and CA inc. How can I get documents of processes? After studying all
> processes I can write something on my topic.
> Again thanks for your response and waiting for again response.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:19 PM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> Good Question...
>
> They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
> refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
> I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
> of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
> a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
> organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
> details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
> like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".
>
> Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
> guidelines.
>
> On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
>  wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my
> query is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> > 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> >http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> > 2) OGC Standards
>
> >http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> > 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>

Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-29 Thread Elry
Well...

In the past I have completed a lot of R&D on ITIL software vendors for
pure research or for the creation/response to RFP's.

Amanullah if it is research you are doing - then I would suggest EMA.
I don't know how well funded you are to do research, but you can set
up a free account with EMA and look at some of the free advice they
offer:


(1) Website

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com

(2) ITIL Process Research

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com/coverage/ITIL.php

(3) IT Vendor Research

http://www.enterprisemanagement.com/vendors/subscriptions.php

(4) IT Management Solution Center (This is a free tool for getting
some basic knowledge on vendors).

http://itsolutions.enterprisemanagement.com/


I hope this helps.

Good luck on the research.

Be sure to send me a copy when you are done.


On Sep 28, 11:38 am, David Sanders
 wrote:
> For a list of ITIL processes and toolsets take a look 
> athttp://www.pinkelephant.com/PinkVERIFY/
> And follow the 4 links at the bottom of the page... there are many more
> products than the four you list.  The pages list which ITIL processes each
> vendor is verified for
>
> David Sanders
> Solution Architect
> Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
> ==
>
> tel +44 1494 468980
> mobile +44 7710 377761
> email david.sand...@westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
> webhttp://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:16 PM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> Hi Elry,
>
> Thanks for your response. I am doing research on it, my research topic is
> "Towards ITIL Processes Standardization". I want to study the processes of
> all companies(e.g. BMC Remedy, HP Openview, IBM Tivoli, and CA inc) which
> are using ITIL concepts. For BMC Remedy I have all processes of Incident
> Management, Problem Management, Change Management, Service Level Management,
> and Release Management. I don't have processes of HP Openview, IBM Tivoli,
> and CA inc. How can I get documents of processes? After studying all
> processes I can write something on my topic.
> Again thanks for your response and waiting for again response.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:19 PM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> Good Question...
>
> They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
> refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
> I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
> of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
> a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
> organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
> details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
> like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".
>
> Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
> guidelines.
>
> On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
>  wrote:
> > Hi there,
> > I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my
> query is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> > 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> >http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> > 2) OGC Standards
>
> >http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> > 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>
> >http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools...
>
> > On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> > > Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
> > > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.or

Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-28 Thread David Sanders
For a list of ITIL processes and toolsets take a look at
http://www.pinkelephant.com/PinkVERIFY/
And follow the 4 links at the bottom of the page... there are many more
products than the four you list.  The pages list which ITIL processes each
vendor is verified for

David Sanders
Solution Architect
Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
==
 
tel +44 1494 468980
mobile +44 7710 377761
email david.sand...@westoverconsulting.co.uk
 
web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk
 
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 2:16 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

Hi Elry,

Thanks for your response. I am doing research on it, my research topic is
"Towards ITIL Processes Standardization". I want to study the processes of
all companies(e.g. BMC Remedy, HP Openview, IBM Tivoli, and CA inc) which
are using ITIL concepts. For BMC Remedy I have all processes of Incident
Management, Problem Management, Change Management, Service Level Management,
and Release Management. I don't have processes of HP Openview, IBM Tivoli,
and CA inc. How can I get documents of processes? After studying all
processes I can write something on my topic.
Again thanks for your response and waiting for again response.


Thanks & Regards

Amanullah
IT Enterprise Applications


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Elry
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

Good Question...

They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".

Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
guidelines.


On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
 wrote:
> Hi there,
> I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my
query is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> 2) OGC Standards
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools...
>
> On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> > Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > **
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> > Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> > best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> > independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> > unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
>
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
> > DISCLAIMER:"This e-mail message including any of its attachments is
intended
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-28 Thread IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Hi Elry,

Thanks for your response. I am doing research on it, my research topic is 
"Towards ITIL Processes Standardization". I want to study the processes of all 
companies(e.g. BMC Remedy, HP Openview, IBM Tivoli, and CA inc) which are using 
ITIL concepts. For BMC Remedy I have all processes of Incident Management, 
Problem Management, Change Management, Service Level Management, and Release 
Management. I don't have processes of HP Openview, IBM Tivoli, and CA inc. How 
can I get documents of processes? After studying all processes I can write 
something on my topic.
Again thanks for your response and waiting for again response.


Thanks & Regards

Amanullah
IT Enterprise Applications


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Elry
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:19 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

Good Question...

They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".

Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
guidelines.


On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
 wrote:
> Hi there,
> I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my query 
> is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> 2) OGC Standards
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools...
>
> On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> > Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > **
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> > Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> > best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> > independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> > unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
>
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
> > DISCLAIMER:"This e-mail message including any of its attachments is intended
> > solely for the addressee(s) and may contain privileged information. If you
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-28 Thread Gard, Richard J
ITIL is a collection (Library) of "Best Practices" and it continues to evolve.  
We can influence these best practices.  Refer to http://www.itlibrary.org/ to 
see how you can get involved with the ITIL evolution.

Best regards, 
Rich 
謝
謝
你
。
GIS-ISS-SEM
Service Technology Development Manager
ITIL Practisioner Certified: Support and Restore 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Elry
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:19 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

Good Question...

They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".

Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
guidelines.


On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
 wrote:
> Hi there,
> I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my query 
> is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> 2) OGC Standards
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools...
>
> On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> > Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > **
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> > Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> > best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> > independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> > unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
>
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
> > DISCLAIMER:"This e-mail message including any of its attachments is intended
> > solely for the addressee(s) and may contain privileged information. If you
> > are not the addressee or you have received this email message in error,
> > please notify the sender who will remove your details from its database. You
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> > entities or persons."
>
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>
> > ___ 
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-28 Thread Elry
Good Question...

They seem to like to deal only with the academic generalities and
refuse to roll up their sleeves and do the real work.
I was fortunate do my ITIL Masters with one of the original founders
of ITIL.  He intimated that their goal was to provide
a blueprint with general guidelines that could be adapted to various
organizations; therefore, to actually get into the
details would deter from their "prime directive"; ergo, organizations
like "Pink Elephant" and guidelines like "Pink Verify".

Maybe in time as ITIL V3 matures - there will be more conclusive
guidelines.


On Sep 28, 1:15 am, "IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)"
 wrote:
> Hi there,
> I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my query 
> is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
> IT Enterprise Applications
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Elry
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:45 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...
>
> 1) Pink Verify Standards
>
> http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/
>
> 2) OGC Standards
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx
>
> 3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.
>
> http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools...
>
> On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> > Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
> > To: arsl...@arslist.org
> > Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > **
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> > If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> > Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> > best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> > independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> > unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> > Thanks & Regards
>
> > Amanullah
>
> > IT Enterprise Applications
>
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-27 Thread IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
Hi there,
I visited the link and got good information thanks for the link. But my query 
is Why ITIL itself is not making its own standards?



Thanks & Regards

Amanullah
IT Enterprise Applications

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To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...

1) Pink Verify Standards

http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/

2) OGC Standards

http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx

3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.

http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools/EndorsedSoftwareTools.aspx


On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
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> Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> **
>
> Hi,
>
> Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
>
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-25 Thread Elry
To further add to that - check the following links see if they help...

1) Pink Verify Standards

http://www.pinkelephant.com/pinkverify/

2) OGC Standards

http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/ITILSoftwareScheme.aspx

3) BMC is gold level member of the OGC Standards.

http://www.itil-officialsite.com/SoftwareScheme/EndorsedSoftwareTools/EndorsedSoftwareTools.aspx


On Sep 25, 7:25 am, Brian Pancia  wrote:
> Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.
>
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> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of IT (Amanullah Bashir Ahmed)
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
> To: arsl...@arslist.org
> Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> **
>
> Hi,
>
> Why ITIL is not standardize till now?
>
> If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.
>
> Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
> best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
> independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
> unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> Amanullah
>
> IT Enterprise Applications
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Re: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

2011-09-25 Thread Brian Pancia
Look at ISO 2.  This is pretty much the standard for ITIL.

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

 

** 

Hi,

Why ITIL is not standardize till now?

If we see IEEE, they have their standards but ITIL don't have.

Anybody knows about white paper on ITIL  Standardization. Standards work
best when they describe something in measureable terms that can be
independently tested and verified. Standards define a definite output in
unambiguous language to prevent miscommunications and misunderstandings.

 

 

 

Thanks & Regards

 

Amanullah

IT Enterprise Applications

 



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