Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread Frex Popo
thanks Joe for the additional info.

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De: Joe DeSouza joe_rem...@yahoo.com
Objet: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 18h27


** 




Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving 
your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is 
that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display 
the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are 
saving.
 
The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the 
list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window 
or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really 
matter if you have details enabled or not..
 
Joe





From: Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

** 




Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)
 
I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I 
have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a 
VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)
 
--- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com a écrit :


De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36


It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

Kind Regards Conny 

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An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd 
use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched 
off for speed :-)
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Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread Michiel Beijen
Hi 권민석, (long live cut  paste)

After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects
causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory
and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a
significant amount of time.

This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that is
actually used for production purposes... ;-)

If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode
(look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users will
have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will
affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production
system to Development Cache Mode.

Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl


On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Everybody!



 This issue happens to us in the same.

 But in our case,

 When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot
 connect to the server.



 Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005



 Is anyone having this case ?

 Is it happened after CMDB install?



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 **

 Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before
 saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as
 filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so
 as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it
 is that you are saving.



 The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have
 the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server
 window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't
 really matter if you have details enabled or not..



 Joe


  --

 *From:* Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
 *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 **

 Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)



 I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I
 have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a
 VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)



 --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com* a
 écrit :


 De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
 Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
 À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36

 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

 Kind Regards Conny

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 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org]
 Im Auftrag von David Morgan
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
 An: 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org
 Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

 It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically
 I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool
 switched off for speed :-)



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Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread 권민석
Hi Michiel Beijen

 

Thanks for your help.

 

This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on.

We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem.

But  Hang problem happens in that time too.

 

I don’t know what is the solution.

 

How is it in your case?

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 

** Hi 권민석, (long live cut  paste)

After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects causing 
disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory and the 
amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a significant 
amount of time.

This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that is 
actually used for production purposes... ;-)

If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode 
(look for it in the Configuring guide). This way, any connected users will have 
a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will affect 
overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production system to 
Development Cache Mode. 

Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl



On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

** 

Hi Everybody!

 

This issue happens to us in the same.  

But in our case,

When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot connect 
to the server.

 

Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005

 

Is anyone having this case ? 

Is it happened after CMDB install?

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 

** 

Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving 
your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is 
that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display 
the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are 
saving.

 

The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the 
list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window 
or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really 
matter if you have details enabled or not..

 

Joe

 

  _  

From: Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

** 


Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)

 

I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I 
have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a 
VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)

 

--- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com a écrit :


De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36

It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

Kind Regards Conny 

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Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org ] Im Auftrag 
von David Morgan
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org 
Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd 
use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched 
off for speed :-)

 

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Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread Michiel Beijen
I see - are you really sure that Development Cache Mode is on? You'd have to
restart the server after setting the checkbox in order for the setting to
take effect. But as I mentioned, you will be experiencing other kinds of
performance issues - maybe the one you mentioned - if you are running
Development Cache Mode on a production system. If you'd want to take my
advice, to prevent performance issues, please do not use this on a
production environment.

In my experience, Development Cache Mode is a GREAT thing for test or
development servers with only a couple of users; but will be able to bring
your system to a grinding halt when large amounts of users are connected.

Also, I would strongly advice not import workflow objects on a live server
during business hours. Please use a downtime slot in your SLA for this and
make sure no users are connected to your server (for instance setting
Admin-Only mode and disconnecting all connected users).  And, of course,
make sure to communicate your scheduled downtime to your users...

Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl


On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Michiel Beijen



 Thanks for your help.



 This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on.

 We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem.

 But  Hang problem happens in that time too.



 I don’t know what is the solution.



 How is it in your case?





 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Michiel Beijen
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 ** Hi 권민석, (long live cut  paste)


 After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects
 causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory
 and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a
 significant amount of time.

 This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that
 is actually used for production purposes... ;-)

 If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode
 (look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users
 will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will
 affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production
 system to Development Cache Mode.

 Kind regards,
 --
 Michiel Beijen
 Software Consultant
 +31 6 - 457 42 418
 Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl

  On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Everybody!



 This issue happens to us in the same.

 But in our case,

 When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot
 connect to the server.



 Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005



 Is anyone having this case ?

 Is it happened after CMDB install?



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 **

 Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before
 saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as
 filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so
 as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it
 is that you are saving.



 The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have
 the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server
 window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't
 really matter if you have details enabled or not..



 Joe


  --

 *From:* Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
 *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 **

 Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)



 I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I
 have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a
 VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)



 --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com* a
 écrit :


 De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
 Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
 À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36

 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

 Kind Regards Conny

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org]
 Im Auftrag von David Morgan
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
 An: 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp

AW: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread Conny Martin
Hi,
 
the problem is the Development Cache Mode. Turn it off and you wouldn't see 
these server hangs any more.
 
Kind Regards Conny



Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von Michiel Beijen
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 10. Juni 2009 11:45
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link


** I see - are you really sure that Development Cache Mode is on? You'd have to 
restart the server after setting the checkbox in order for the setting to take 
effect. But as I mentioned, you will be experiencing other kinds of performance 
issues - maybe the one you mentioned - if you are running  Development Cache 
Mode on a production system. If you'd want to take my advice, to prevent 
performance issues, please do not use this on a production environment. 

In my experience, Development Cache Mode is a GREAT thing for test or 
development servers with only a couple of users; but will be able to bring your 
system to a grinding halt when large amounts of users are connected. 

Also, I would strongly advice not import workflow objects on a live server 
during business hours. Please use a downtime slot in your SLA for this and make 
sure no users are connected to your server (for instance setting Admin-Only 
mode and disconnecting all connected users).  And, of course, make sure to 
communicate your scheduled downtime to your users... 

Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl



On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:


** 

Hi Michiel Beijen

 

Thanks for your help.

 

This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on.

We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem.

But  Hang problem happens in that time too.

 

I don’t know what is the solution.

 

How is it in your case?

 

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Michiel Beijen
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM 

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 

** Hi 권민석, (long live cut  paste) 


After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects 
causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory 
and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a 
significant amount of time.

This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server 
that is actually used for production purposes... ;-)

If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache 
Mode (look for it in the Configuring guide). This way, any connected users will 
have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will affect 
overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production system to 
Development Cache Mode. 

Kind regards,
--
Michiel Beijen
Software Consultant
+31 6 - 457 42 418
Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl





On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

** 

Hi Everybody!

 

This issue happens to us in the same.  

But in our case,

When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot 
connect to the server.

 

Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 
005

 

Is anyone having this case ? 

Is it happened after CMDB install?

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 

** 

Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that 
before saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as 
filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as 
to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is 
that you are saving.

 

The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you 
have the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the 
Server window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it 
doesn't really matter if you have details enabled or not..

 

Joe

 





From: Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long

Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-10 Thread Jason Miller
The way I understand workflow caching is that with Dev Cache Mode off user
operations have a higher priority over admin operations.  Admin changes will
wait behind user activity for a good time to make the change/recache (not
sure on the exact logic of finding a good time).  With Dev Cache Mode on
user operations are not given precedence over admin operations.  This sounds
consistent with what you are experiencing.

Try turning off Dev Cache Mode and restarting the AR Server process.

HTH,
Jason

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:31 AM, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Michiel Beijen



 Thanks for your help.



 This Server is on production. And Development Cache Mode is on.

 We are importing workflow objects Because of this hang problem.

 But  Hang problem happens in that time too.



 I don’t know what is the solution.



 How is it in your case?





 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Michiel Beijen
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:13 PM

 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 ** Hi 권민석, (long live cut  paste)

 After you save a workflow object, the server will re-cache its objects
 causing disruption to any connected users. Depending on the amount of memory
 and the amount of forms and workflow on your server, this can be for a
 significant amount of time.

 This is just one of the reasons you should never develop on a server that
 is actually used for production purposes... ;-)

 If you have a testing/dev environment, switch it to Development Cache Mode
 (look for it in the *Configuring* guide). This way, any connected users
 will have a better experience. There is a downside to this as well, it will
 affect overall performance of the server; you should NOT set a production
 system to Development Cache Mode.

 Kind regards,
 --
 Michiel Beijen
 Software Consultant
 +31 6 - 457 42 418
 Bee Free IT + http://beefreeit.nl

  On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:31, 권민석 mskwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 **

 Hi Everybody!



 This issue happens to us in the same.

 But in our case,

 When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot
 connect to the server.



 Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005



 Is anyone having this case ?

 Is it happened after CMDB install?



 *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe DeSouza
 *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Subject:* Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link



 **

 Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before
 saving your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as
 filters etc, is that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so
 as to not display the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it
 is that you are saving.



 The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have
 the list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server
 window or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't
 really matter if you have details enabled or not..



 Joe


  --

 *From:* Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
 *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
 *Subject:* Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 **

 Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)



 I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I
 have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a
 VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)



 --- En date de : *Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com* a
 écrit :


 De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
 Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
 À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36

 It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

 Kind Regards Conny

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org]
 Im Auftrag von David Morgan
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
 An: 
 arslist@ARSLIST.ORGhttp://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org
 Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
 7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

 It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically
 I'd use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool
 switched off for speed :-)



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Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-09 Thread Frex Popo
Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)
 
I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I 
have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a 
VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)
 
--- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com a écrit :


De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36


It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

Kind Regards Conny 

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Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von David Morgan
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd 
use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched 
off for speed :-)



Cheers
Dave Morgan


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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Frank Caruso
Sent: 09 June 2009 12:12
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

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I do have details turned on  looking at active links without it is sort of 
useless  :)

But that did fix the problem. Without details active links save much faster.

Thankx!

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dave.mor...@tiberone.comwrote:

 Hi Frank

 I think this is a known issue - and I'll bet you have the Details view 
 switched on in the Admin tool

 Switch off details view and try to save an active link/filter/form
etc.

 Regards
 Dave Morgan

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 Has anyone else noticed an issue with 7.1 where it takes a long time
to
 create and modify active links. I thought it was an issue with my last 
 environment but it appears to be the same way at my current shop.




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Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-09 Thread Joe DeSouza
Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving 
your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is 
that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display 
the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are 
saving.

The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the 
list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window 
or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really 
matter if you have details enabled or not..

Joe





From: Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

** 
Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)

I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I 
have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a 
VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)

--- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com a écrit :


De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36


It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

Kind Regards Conny 

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Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd 
use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched 
off for speed :-) 




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Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

2009-06-09 Thread 권민석
Hi Everybody!

 

This issue happens to us in the same.  

But in our case,

When we save a workflow object , Server is hanged  So any user cannot connect 
to the server.

 

Our AR server/Admin tool Version is 7.1 patch 007 and CMDB is 2.1 Patch 005

 

Is anyone having this case ? 

Is it happened after CMDB install?

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 1:28 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

 

** 

Another tip for the save to happen almost instantaneously is that before saving 
your Active link or Active links or any other workflow such as filters etc, is 
that you click on the Server Name on the server window, so as to not display 
the list of the Active Links or the Filters or whatever it is that you are 
saving.

 

The Admin tool is designed to perform a search after every save if you have the 
list showing. This search does not happen if you either close the Server window 
or click on its name so that the list does not show.. Then it doesn't really 
matter if you have details enabled or not..

 

Joe

 

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From: Frex Popo frexp...@yahoo.fr
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:31:22 AM
Subject: Re : AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

** 


Thanks Conny, like when you say but only for active links :-)

 

I applied the patch and did some tested with active links but not sure if I 
have noticed too much difference, but perhaps I have a server running on a 
VMWARE and things will be slow anyway :)

 

--- En date de : Mar 9.6.09, Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com a écrit :


De: Conny Martin conny.mar...@t-systems.com
Objet: AW: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link
À: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Date: Mardi 9 Juin 2009, 13h36

It's fixed in Admintool 7.1 Patch 7, but only for Active Links :-(

Kind Regards Conny 

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2009 13:25
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
http://fr.mc265.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arsl...@arslist.org 
Betreff: Re: RESOVLED Re: Long Time Saving Active Link

No worries Frank - I think its fixed in a user tool patch later in the
7.1 series - but I cannot remember which patch

It's a little bit of a pain to switch off the details view - but typically I'd 
use ARUtilities to determine the details etc, and leave the admin tool switched 
off for speed :-)

 

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