[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread rook782
Someone should make sure our yahoo group is on the site.  Then we 
would get some real outside posters.  Our numbers might even go from 
400 to 800 or 10 to 20.  I like the two picture AsburyChris has put 
up, not bad for a kid in high school.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread oakdorf
geez, that's just one website with info on asbury.

Actaully, for the key words Asbury Park, 

Goog: asburypark.net, cityofasburypark.com, Gayasburypark, then
wikipedia, asburyboardwalk.com ):, asburychamber.com and
conventionhall.net then asburymusic.com.

Yhoo:City is first, then app.com, asburypark.net, chamber, boe,...wiki
is 6th.

Live.com (microsfot's latest attempt at search):asburypark.net, then
city


add in keywods like boardwalk, music, or real estate and the mix changes.

Hint: Whomever is in charge of PR should put out clear communication
on events both on the bordwalk and downtown. The historical site seems
to be working now as are the rest of the individually operated sites.

cityofasburypark.com jsut needs to be maintained. It weighted more in
search results.

The Internet is a powerful, cheap and TRUSTED marketing tool.



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: VETERANS HALL

2007-07-31 Thread Jim

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 {Veterans Hall//Asbury Park}
 
 Veterans Hall for Rent for 
 Bingo,Rentals,Parties,Etc.  possiable storage other space for rent possiabe 
 parking space's  VFW on Lake St.  Bond St.for Rent please contact Jim at 
 (732) 682-3196 0r leave me a private e-mail or contact Commander Lou Parisi 
 at  VFW  Him or I are normally there between these following hours in the 
 morning between: Mon:10:00-Tues:11:30 a.m.
 
 VFW Post 1333
 Asbury Park N.J.
 (732) 988-3440
 (732) 361-8323
 
 
 James Grabe
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 Patriot Officer
 Asbury Park N.J.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi

2007-07-31 Thread Allan Peterson
Plan also calls for a revovated Convention Hall, dining and retail on the first 
floor of some of the new buildings, new hotel in addition to the two that are 
already here.


- Original Message 
From: wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:14:52 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

 Austin Texas has free WiFi
 = = = = 
Regarding Austin:

To help stimulate business, the city seized on the opportunity to 
host the World Congress on Information Technology (WCIT), a high-
profile symposium held every two years in different locations around 
the globe. Austin business leaders and city officials felt that the 
May 2006 event would showcase Austin as a technology hub and encourage 
economic growth

Wow just think, Asbury Park has Convention, Hotel, Dining,...facilitie s

Opps, I just remembered.. The plan is centered on 3000+ condos.

Too bad..

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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread apchrisa
Hardly a high school kid.  I read the message on this board and 
replaced 2 pictures with current versions.  Later this week, I will 
take some pictures to replace the others.  I have some from the winter 
but I would rather see current images.  

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Someone should make sure our yahoo group is on the site.  Then we 
 would get some real outside posters.  Our numbers might even go from 
 400 to 800 or 10 to 20.  I like the two picture AsburyChris has put 
 up, not bad for a kid in high school.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread justifiedright
Nice job Chris.  I hope you change every picture on the site. 

I'd like to see some with huge crowds on the boards and beach, maybe 
4th of July pics.

I know Laura Jewell and she is a very nice person.  If you contact 
her I bet she has some good ones to share.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apchrisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hardly a high school kid.  I read the message on this board and 
 replaced 2 pictures with current versions.  Later this week, I 
will 
 take some pictures to replace the others.  I have some from the 
winter 
 but I would rather see current images.  
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote:
 
  Someone should make sure our yahoo group is on the site.  Then 
we 
  would get some real outside posters.  Our numbers might even go 
from 
  400 to 800 or 10 to 20.  I like the two picture AsburyChris has 
put 
  up, not bad for a kid in high school.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi

2007-07-31 Thread 2fine4u
Other cities, major and minor, also have this type of access.  Emailed
the contact us,  area and asked for details, unless someone in the
group, knows, already!  There ARE geniuses, among us.  What an
opportunity this would be, not only for our youth, but the seniors,
like myself and the rest of the know it alls, out there!  Just kidding!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@  
  Radio waves do not respect City limits.
  Someone has to pay for the network.
  It is currently privately owned.
  
  If it were subsidized by the means suggested, perhaps login/password 
  info could be given upon request to city residents ?
  
  Or the organizations could purchase it, or set up their own network.
  A completely free system is very idealistic. Any examples of one?
  
  Werner
 
 
 The Buffalo area has one. I think it is free
 http://www.buffalowifi.org/
 
 There is free wi-fi in Bryant Park in Manhattan
 
 http://www.bryantpark.org/amenities/wireless.php
 
 I could go on.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi

2007-07-31 Thread wernerapnj
SF Municipal Wi-Fi Wait Grows

...
San Francisco's municipal Wi-Fi project, originally proposed in 2004, 
is one of the most closely watched in the U.S. It would include a paid 
service provided by EarthLink and a slower, free service from Google 
Inc. The plan has run into a thicket of objections concerning privacy, 
health, quality of service, help for disadvantaged residents, the 
city's role, and the process of conceiving and approving the project. 
Plans elsewhere in the country, including in Philadelphia and 
Sacramento, California, also have run into problems and delays. 
...

http://tinyurl.com/2a27kt

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread 2fine4u
Wonderful improvement!  Thanks!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apchrisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hardly a high school kid.  I read the message on this board and 
 replaced 2 pictures with current versions.  Later this week, I will 
 take some pictures to replace the others.  I have some from the winter 
 but I would rather see current images.  
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote:
 
  Someone should make sure our yahoo group is on the site.  Then we 
  would get some real outside posters.  Our numbers might even go from 
  400 to 800 or 10 to 20.  I like the two picture AsburyChris has put 
  up, not bad for a kid in high school.
 





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Bid Rig

2007-07-31 Thread Allan Peterson
Small article in the press about John J. Hamilton Jr.   Looks like he will be 
heading to jail


   

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[AsburyPark] Re: Bid Rig

2007-07-31 Thread justifiedright
The facts on J Hamilton have always been sketchy.  Today's press 
sheds no more light on it.

His may have been entrapment.  I've always felt that about his 
case.  His was entirely different from the rest of the pack.

I wish he had hired me.

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wrote:

 Small article in the press about John J. Hamilton Jr.   Looks like 
he will be heading to jail
 
 

 
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[AsburyPark] Do you agree?

2007-07-31 Thread justifiedright
This is a sentence from the Asbury Park Wiki (may have been Helen Pike 
who wrote it - not sure):

From 2002 onward, the rest of Asbury Park has been in the midst of a 
cultural, political and economic revival led by a burgeoning industry 
of local and national artists.


Local and national artists are leading AP's revival?  Like who?  Can 
anyone name me the artists who are leading AP's revival?

Do you folks agree with this assesment?



 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
In a message dated 7/31/2007 10:21:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hardly a  high school kid.  I read the message on this board and 
replaced 2  pictures with current versions.  Later this week, I will 
take some  pictures to replace the others.  I have some from the winter 
but I  would rather see current images.  


 
 
Ah!  Thank you, Chris.  A pic of the new paramount interior would  be great 
too.



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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Bid Rig

2007-07-31 Thread Allan Peterson
Entrapment?  What is sketchy?  In exchange for his driveway he would push city 
(non-bid)work to the contractor.  One could easily say that they don't exchange 
city work for favors.  They say this has all been recorded.  I am sure he was 
well aware that this action was illegal and what the consequences could be.  
That is why he asked for a receipt and created the story.   Complaint is listed 
at: http://www.app.com/assets/pdf/B31838222.PDF



- Original Message 
From: justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:56:19 PM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Bid Rig

The facts on J Hamilton have always been sketchy. Today's press 
sheds no more light on it.

His may have been entrapment. I've always felt that about his 
case. His was entirely different from the rest of the pack.

I wish he had hired me.

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wrote:

 Small article in the press about John J. Hamilton Jr. Looks like 
he will be heading to jail
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread MarioAPNJ
 
Chris,
 
Madison Market had a great pic of the paramount restoration, with the  
interior scaffolding still in place. Mostly gold tones.   It  was at their site 
or 
on a press release.  Can't find it anymore, but I  think I did send it to 
Werner.
 
 

In a message dated 7/31/2007 10:21:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hardly a  high school kid.  I read the message on this board and 
replaced 2  pictures with current versions.  Later this week, I will 
take some  pictures to replace the others.  I have some from the winter 
but I  would rather see current images.  



 



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[AsburyPark] goog wifi

2007-07-31 Thread oakdorf
https://wifi.google.com/support/

Only out in Mountain View Ca for now





 
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[AsburyPark] Bid Rig:

2007-07-31 Thread oakdorf
Is the press on vacation? No new news??

Isn't Konvitz dead? Can't the guy rest?

Boring story especially since alomsot everyone is still running around.




 
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[AsburyPark] Googs wifi proposal for san fran with earthlink

2007-07-31 Thread oakdorf
This is an interesting twist on offering free service. Why?

Because in a way, you can see where they placed a value on city 
property rights or perceived rights to the future

https://home.feather.net/sanfrancisco



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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 Nice job Chris.  I hope you change every picture on the site. 
 
 I'd like to see some with huge crowds on the boards and beach, maybe 
 4th of July pics.
 
 I know Laura Jewell and she is a very nice person.  If you contact 
 her I bet she has some good ones to share.
 

But you'll have to pay royalties.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -looks like much of the AP entry has been updated. 
 
 there goes my night.

Hmmm, no one listens to what is said on this forum?



 
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[AsburyPark] Architect of AP Deal

2007-07-31 Thread dfsavgny
From APP

A $50,000 thank-you

Six months later, on Dec. 19, 2000, Weldon is back at the trailer.

He tells Konvitz that the Ocean Township Council will soon vote on a
zoning change for Apple Farms.

That change, Weldon says, will permit Apple Farms to increase the
number of homes from 30 to 75.

A thankful Konvitz offers Weldon $5,000 for his help on the project
that day.

Weldon declines, but says he will take the money once the rezoning is
formally approved.

That approval comes on Feb. 28, 2001, when Weldon and the council vote
to permit Apple Farms to build 75 homes on the parcel originally zoned
for 30.

Two months later, Weldon gets his thank-you for a job well done.

In April, he drives to the West Deal home of Apple Farms developer Gohar.

Outside the house, Gohar gives Weldon a bag.

Inside is $50,000 in cash.

Follow the time line. It's April 2001 when Weldon gets the cash. The
MOU for the WRP is almost wrapped by that time and is signed I think
in April or August 2001. But Weldon was clean in AP right?



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread Hinge
Everybody who participated in updating the Wikipedia entry deserves a big 
thanks and round 
of applause. You rock!
Hinge

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 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
 
  -looks like much of the AP entry has been updated. 
  
  there goes my night.
 
 Hmmm, no one listens to what is said on this forum?





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread justifiedright
Thanks, but my entry was immediately altered by a Wiki-Nazi, just 
like I said would happen.

It's still there, but with a link he prefered instead of the one I 
provided.


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 Everybody who participated in updating the Wikipedia entry 
deserves a big thanks and round 
 of applause. You rock!
 Hinge
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote:
  
   -looks like much of the AP entry has been updated. 
   
   there goes my night.
  
  Hmmm, no one listens to what is said on this forum?
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
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 Thanks, but my entry was immediately altered by a Wiki-Nazi, just 
 like I said would happen.
 
 It's still there, but with a link he prefered instead of the one I 
 provided.
 

You used the N word again despite complaining about its use in the past.

http://tinyurl.com/yqnsl3

The link above will show you a comparison of the wiki AP page the way
you had it and the way it is now. What's the beef? The biggest change
is that thye updated census statistics from 2005 to 2006, added
birth/death dates to notable APers and added some things.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Images at Wikipedia

2007-07-31 Thread justifiedright
My complaint isn't about that stuff.  I didn't post all of that.  

I'm actually happy about what happened to my post, because it will 
give me a chance to highlight why Wiki is not a source.

I added to the Asbury Park Wiki, under Noteable Residents Edna 
Woolman Chase, the editor of Vogue who was born in AP.

When you add someone to the list, you are supposed to link to a 
source to prove your assertion.

I linked to the Woolman family's website, to the page they keep 
about Edna, which contains a quote from her wherein she talks of 
being born in Asbury Park.  Straight from the horse's mouth.

It wasn't long before someone came along and changed my link.  The 
link was changed from the family's website to a Wiki about Edna 
Woolman Chase.

So I inquired of the guy why he made the change.  Here is what he 
told me:

It is Wiki policy that you should always first link to another Wiki 
if it exists, as opposed to an external link.

Now, the Wiki link about Edna - doesn't even say she is from Asbury 
Park.  Since the purpose of the link is to prove she is from Asbury 
Park, isn't mine better?

Ready to complete the circle?  At the bottom of the Wiki about Edna 
is the very link I used from her family's website.

This highlights what is wrong with Wiki - they expect that in the 
end the source of proof for one Wiki will be - another Wiki, not 
the actual source material.  They want to interpose Wiki between the 
reader and the source, as if Wiki is itself a source.  it isn't.

If I'm going to give Wiki any due at all, maybe it will be a 
good source agregator.  But a source itself?  It can't be, no 
matter how hard they try.







--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright
 justifiedright@ wrote:
 
  Thanks, but my entry was immediately altered by a Wiki-Nazi, 
just 
  like I said would happen.
  
  It's still there, but with a link he prefered instead of the one 
I 
  provided.
  
 
 You used the N word again despite complaining about its use in the 
past.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/yqnsl3
 
 The link above will show you a comparison of the wiki AP page the 
way
 you had it and the way it is now. What's the beef? The biggest 
change
 is that thye updated census statistics from 2005 to 2006, added
 birth/death dates to notable APers and added some things.





 
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