Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
Why are you worried people like you will never have to serve.

Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Breaking News: The Iraq 
war turns out to be about exactly what you 
thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy and/ 
or a terrorist for thinking it.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535

President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for a 
potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to be 
negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - 
how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.

The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- 
Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms.

CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the 
U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
business interests (such as investment opportunities for American 
companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.



 

   
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread maubddny
As opposed to people like you who don't WANT to serve?




--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Why are you worried people like you will never have to serve.
 
 Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Breaking 
News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you 
 thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy 
and/ 
 or a terrorist for thinking it.
 
 http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
 
 President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for 
a 
 potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to 
be 
 negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - 
 how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
 
 The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- 
 Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
 enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms.
 
 CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer 
the 
 U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
 business interests (such as investment opportunities for American 
 companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
 
 
 
  
 

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[AsburyPark] sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread Traderdube
Mario and Denise had a short discussion about the varying degrees 
between supporting education and supporting sports. It might not even 
qualify as a discussion. Both were making a valid point, and each of 
their points were valid. A few years back, APHS parents were in an 
uproar over a controversy regarding a APHS football player. I can't 
recall the exact details, but it had something to do with eligibility of 
the star player. I think that in the aftermath, the then Athletic 
Director got fired and subsequently hit a jail cell for taking bribes as 
part of the corrupt Ocean Twp Sewer Authority. I was heartened by the 
extreme show of support by AP parents for their football program, but I 
came to the same conclusion Mario did. Yes, it was a great show of 
support for an undefeated football team, but, where, I wondered, was 
that show of support(and outrage) over the sad state of Asbury's school 
district? Asbury Park seems to be a front runner, when the team is good 
support them, when the show is Springsteen support him, but the little 
guys and the losers are just left behind.

Case in point is the nonsensical BS surrounding the little league field. 
That was such a piece of crap story. Where are the leaders of the 
community and why wasn't their voices screaming out against the BS? 
Reidy, the Mayor, Bruno, the Bd of Ed, the school administration. That 
anything could stop the hard volunteer work of anyone trying to make 
sports more accessible in a town who's youth are decimated by drugs and 
gangs is criminal beyond reason. Growing up in Ocean Township and 
playing little league at Colt Field was a treasured experience that 
taught life lessons still in use today. To think that the youngsters of 
AP don't get that equal opportunity is ridiculous.

That the kids have achieved so much in the face of such adversity, the 
HS team going for a championship along with the Pop Warner kids means so 
much. I hope we all get out there and support them with all we have, I 
know that I will.


 
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
Was waiting for this one. I'm old I was drafted.

maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  As opposed to people like you who 
don't WANT to serve?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Why are you worried people like you will never have to serve.
 
 Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Breaking 
News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you 
 thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy 
and/ 
 or a terrorist for thinking it.
 
 http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
 
 President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for 
a 
 potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to 
be 
 negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - 
 how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
 
 The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- 
 Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
 enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms.
 
 CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer 
the 
 U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
 business interests (such as investment opportunities for American 
 companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Anybody check out the Xmas market in CH?

2007-11-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
I took a nice foggy walk to CH last night to take a look at the
Christmas Market.
Super cool! 
I'm looking forward to the weekend when I can check it out while it's
open. 
I hope it gets enough PR to bring people into the city because it's a
nice little alternative to the Grove or the horror of the malls (or
Red Bank as well)




 
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[AsburyPark] reply

2007-11-27 Thread 2fine4u
Jack,
I saw it yesterday.  What an eye-opener!  There hasn't ever been an
honest government, in this country.  You only need to watch what
actually happened in Boston, during the Revolution and the gradual
takeover of this country from its' original inhabitants, with broken
treaties, to all out force to placing native Americans on
reservations, where they still reside, to this day.  

All people who immigrated here, have been ostracized and discriminated
against, beginning with the Indians and whatever flavor of the day,
is.  I don't believe in illegal immigration, for those, who
immigrated legally and that's all I'll say on that.

I also saw the American Prospect on Channel 13 and it dealt with the
60's, the radical left's attempt, to disrupt the 1968 Democratic
Convention in Chicago, the formation of the Black Panther's in 1966,
in Oakland, the beginning of the 60's Women's movement, the
assassinations and America's refusal to have a dialogue on race and
the prison industrial complex and Reagan's stint as governor and how
he tried to smother the civil rights movement on Berkeley's campuses
in California.  

As a woman, I've never had any illusions, where most men want us.   As
a Black person, we take 2 steps forward and 10 back, as far as the
Constitution representing us, as Americans.  When the Panthers took up
the gun, Reagan did his best to take them away and succeeded.  You now
have a NRA card carrying Vice President, who would shoot you, if you
tried to disarm him, so who does the 2nd Amendment represent?

Why we fight protects, those in power, by think tank appointees,
elected by no one, making policy for the military and selling it
through speeches, as original thought.  Colin Powell found this out in
the infamous UN speech, about yellow cake, which is a bald faced
lie! People from non-profits  and lobbyists groups from K street, run
this country, not Congress, not Justice or Executive.  Be careful who
you think you're voting for; they're just the front men, behind a
hidden machine.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a great documentary called Why We Fight that's exactly
about this. It's based on 
 propaganda films by Frank Capra. It's a must see in my opinion.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
 
  Breaking News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you  
  thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy and/ 
  or a terrorist for thinking it.
  
  http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
  
  President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for a  
  potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to be  
  negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home -  
  how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
  
  The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- 
  Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an  
  enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms.
  
  CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the  
  U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable  
  business interests (such as investment opportunities for American  
  companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Case in point is the nonsensical BS surrounding the little league
field. 
 That was such a piece of crap story. Where are the leaders of the 
 community and why wasn't their voices screaming out against the BS? 
 Reidy, the Mayor, Bruno, the Bd of Ed, the school administration. That 
 anything could stop the hard volunteer work of anyone trying to make 
 sports more accessible in a town who's youth are decimated by drugs and 
 gangs is criminal beyond reason. Growing up in Ocean Township and 
 playing little league at Colt Field was a treasured experience that 
 taught life lessons still in use today. To think that the youngsters of 
 AP don't get that equal opportunity is ridiculous.
 
 That the kids have achieved so much in the face of such adversity, the 
 HS team going for a championship along with the Pop Warner kids
means so 
 much. I hope we all get out there and support them with all we have, I 
 know that I will.


SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF as one board member, I agree
whole-heartedly with what you have said!  The situation would be a
farce if it weren't so tragic.  Our lawyers work for us, but for some
reason, they have made some sort of crusade in stopping Danny McKee
from moving forward.  I know I am a frequent critic of the city
council, but in this case, the city has given Danny the permits he
needs.  That should have been the happy end of the story.  I hope
tomorrow that parents and supporters of the Little League make their
feelings of disgust and frustration known.  To add to the
ridiculousness of the situation, it is my understanding that the State
monitors, who have veto power over the BOE(!), are now involved in
supporting our lawyers in their position that Danny must jump through
ever increasing number of flaming hoops in order to accomplish what
should have been a really simple process.  I am usually not a
conspiracy theorist, but I'd really like to find out just who or what
is behind this.  Does anyone realize the thousands and thousands of
dollars in billing hours that our lawyers have charged the taxpayers
in their effort to stop the Little League? My yelling and screaming at
the lawyers has accomplished nothing.  I have said to them that I hope
Danny and the Little League sue the BOE, and if he does, I will be a
witness for the Little League, and if it means I have to resign my
seat on the BOE in order to do that, then so be it. If the monthly
bill for the law firm comes up at tomorrow night's BOE meeting, I will
ask that it be separated, so that can have the pleasure of voting
against it and explaining why.
   Frank D'Alessandro
   



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Case in point is the nonsensical BS surrounding the little league
field. 
 That was such a piece of crap story. Where are the leaders of the 
 community and why wasn't their voices screaming out against the BS? 
 Reidy, the Mayor, Bruno, the Bd of Ed, the school administration.

Government in AP I've come to realize is like living in a family. You
build up defenses and mechanisms and ways of interacting with spouses,
parents, children and siblings. Sometimes the noise of the past keep
us from hearing or seeing what is NOW. We don't really listen
sometimes. You build up positions like a military operation and refuse
to budge.

Take for instance the city and the BOE. Why be at an impasse? I am
sure the condemnation of the BOE headquarters is a sore point. I am
sure there are even other circumstances I am not aware of. We have to
stop being prisoners of the past. We have to recognize that perhaps we
were wrong, or even if we were not and the other was, how long do they
have to pay for it?

And for some reason there is a tendency not to be open in AP (and I
assume most places). I give a person/entity more credit when they say
I made a mistake. Move one.

I don't suggest singing kumbaya around the camp fire, but there has to
be a realization that we are all in the same boat. Ultimately I
believe most want to get to the same place but just have different
ways of getting there.

I know the city was aware of the BOE's position of standing in the way
of the LL field. Whay was done to bridge the gap I don't know. Nor do
I know why if nothing was done. Frank was courageous and spoke out.

So instead of placing blame we move forward and fix the problem. That
is always my solution. What needs to be done to fix the problem. All
else is meaningless.  



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF as one board member, etc., etc.


Again, Bravisimo Frank!




 
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread maubddny
You probably would have made a better point if you said you 
enlisted.  Mike:  you're old, homophobic and irrelevant. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Was waiting for this one. I'm old I was drafted.
 
 maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  As opposed to people 
like you who don't WANT to serve?
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ 
 wrote:
 
  Why are you worried people like you will never have to serve.
  
  Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Breaking 
 News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you 
  thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy 
 and/ 
  or a terrorist for thinking it.
  
  http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
  
  President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation 
for 
 a 
  potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to 
 be 
  negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at 
home - 
  how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
  
  The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-
 
  Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
  enduring relationship in military, economic and political 
terms.
  
  CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer 
 the 
  U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
  business interests (such as investment opportunities for 
American 
  companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
Homophobic where did that come from? 
   
  Glad I am older. Hardly irrelevant I spend most of my time in Manhattan. Many 
on this list have never even been there. Perhaps irrelevent on this list it is 
too liberal but it is great for comic relief. 
   
  The country has some serious problems and what is most important is whether 
or not they will replace the amusements at Asbury Park. Yes indeed, I'm 
irrelevent.
   
  

maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You probably would have made a better point if you said you 
enlisted. Mike: you're old, homophobic and irrelevant. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Was waiting for this one. I'm old I was drafted.
 
 maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As opposed to people 
like you who don't WANT to serve?
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ 
 wrote:
 
  Why are you worried people like you will never have to serve.
  
  Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: Breaking 
 News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you 
  thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy 
 and/ 
  or a terrorist for thinking it.
  
  http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
  
  President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation 
for 
 a 
  potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to 
 be 
  negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at 
home - 
  how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
  
  The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-

  Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
  enduring relationship in military, economic and political 
terms.
  
  CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer 
 the 
  U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
  business interests (such as investment opportunities for 
American 
  companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] reply

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
As a woman, I've never had any illusions, where most men want us.
   
  Now this really surprises me. How many women in this country even care about 
the way Moslem women are treated?  

2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Jack,
I saw it yesterday. What an eye-opener! There hasn't ever been an
honest government, in this country. You only need to watch what
actually happened in Boston, during the Revolution and the gradual
takeover of this country from its' original inhabitants, with broken
treaties, to all out force to placing native Americans on
reservations, where they still reside, to this day. 

All people who immigrated here, have been ostracized and discriminated
against, beginning with the Indians and whatever flavor of the day,
is. I don't believe in illegal immigration, for those, who
immigrated legally and that's all I'll say on that.

I also saw the American Prospect on Channel 13 and it dealt with the
60's, the radical left's attempt, to disrupt the 1968 Democratic
Convention in Chicago, the formation of the Black Panther's in 1966,
in Oakland, the beginning of the 60's Women's movement, the
assassinations and America's refusal to have a dialogue on race and
the prison industrial complex and Reagan's stint as governor and how
he tried to smother the civil rights movement on Berkeley's campuses
in California. 

As a woman, I've never had any illusions, where most men want us. As
a Black person, we take 2 steps forward and 10 back, as far as the
Constitution representing us, as Americans. When the Panthers took up
the gun, Reagan did his best to take them away and succeeded. You now
have a NRA card carrying Vice President, who would shoot you, if you
tried to disarm him, so who does the 2nd Amendment represent?

Why we fight protects, those in power, by think tank appointees,
elected by no one, making policy for the military and selling it
through speeches, as original thought. Colin Powell found this out in
the infamous UN speech, about yellow cake, which is a bald faced
lie! People from non-profits and lobbyists groups from K street, run
this country, not Congress, not Justice or Executive. Be careful who
you think you're voting for; they're just the front men, behind a
hidden machine.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There's a great documentary called Why We Fight that's exactly
about this. It's based on 
 propaganda films by Frank Capra. It's a must see in my opinion.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John
jerseyshorejohn@ wrote:
 
  Breaking News: The Iraq war turns out to be about exactly what you 
  thought it was about, even though people told you you were crazy and/ 
  or a terrorist for thinking it.
  
  http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/26/17716/535
  
  President Bush on Monday signed a deal setting the foundation for a 
  potential long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq, with details to be 
  negotiated over matters that have defined the war debate at home - 
  how many U.S. forces will stay in the country, and for how long.
  
  The agreement between Mr. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al- 
  Maliki confirms that the United States and Iraq will hash out an 
  enduring relationship in military, economic and political terms.
  
  CBS News' Pete Gow in Baghdad reports the proposals are to offer the 
  U.S. a continued military presence in Iraq, as well as favorable 
  business interests (such as investment opportunities for American 
  companies), in return for guarantees to Iraq's future security.
 




 

   
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread maubddny
Mike, you logged into an Asbury Park message board..  You know... a 
place to discuss issues pertaining to Asbury Park (Development, 
Boardwalk etc.).  If you want to discuss a broader issues, maybe you 
should shuffle off to CNN.Com




 
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[AsburyPark] Indie Mom/Pop Coffee Shop vs. Starbucks: Where to spend those holiday dollars

2007-11-27 Thread Mario

Truth to tell, Rhonda and Jon Mallek were not really thinking of
Christmas this month when they fired a shot across the bow of mighty
Starbucks. Still, it turns out the coffee war of Passaic County does get
at two of the recurring themes of the season — caffeine and where to
spend those holiday dollars.

The Malleks' story really began more than three years ago when
Rhonda, a former events planner, and Jon, a former heavy metal musician
turned I.T. executive, got it in their minds to open a coffee shop. He
was a coffee obsessive partial to high-test espresso. She was a detail
obsessive, intent on creating a place where people would come for the
coffee and for whatever amorphous elements of ambience make a place a
hangout, a second home, as much as a place selling something.
Like other small-business owners, they just want people to remember that
if their idea of biodiversity extends to commerce, along with Ha! Ha!
Ha! or Ho! Ho! Ho!; Tall, Grande or Venti (whichever is which); Too Much
or Not Enough, it's also worth asking Big or Small; Local or
Corporate; Main Street or Mall?   A Defiant Coffee Shop Stares Back at
Starbucks - New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/nyregion/25towns.html?ex=1196830800e\
n=77fb864b6f3a38e7ei=5070emc=eta1  
=== Please, please:
No brouhaha over the PC of   Ha! Ha! Ha! vs. Ho! Ho!
Ho! or the War  This issue is real food for thought about the
plight of our local independent retailers. One ought, each day at
least, to hear a little song, read a good poem, see a fine picture and,
if possible, speak a few reasonable words. -- Johann Wolfgang von
Goethe  Mario,


[AsburyPark] Re:Donation Address Correction

2007-11-27 Thread John C. LiDestri
If anyone wants to oraganize a spaghetti / pasta dinner fund raiser 
I can donate the pasta sauce

Francesco Rinaldi is our brand and we do donate quite a bit of sauce 
for fund raisers.  Probably will not generate 22K but could help.  
Most of the money raised at these dinners is from auctions / 50/50 
raffle, etc.

John


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisemchd@ wrote:
 
  Correct address for pop warner donations   P.O. Box 462  
Neptune, NJ
  07753
 
 
 Dep Mayor Bruno informed me that checks can be made out to 
 
 Asbury Park Pop Warner
 c/o Leesha Floyd
 1 Municipal Plaza
 Asbury Park NJ 07712
 
 I am told that they need $22,000 to fund the entire trip.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Anybody check out the Xmas market in CH?

2007-11-27 Thread Allan Peterson
It is a good idea to help promote the city.  The city should also make the 
parking garage by Cookman free for the season.  While there may not be a huge 
demand, the publicity could not hurt.


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From: Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 9:29:57 AM
Subject: [AsburyPark] Anybody check out the Xmas market in CH?

I took a nice foggy walk to CH last night to take a look at the
Christmas Market.
Super cool! 
I'm looking forward to the weekend when I can check it out while it's
open. 
I hope it gets enough PR to bring people into the city because it's a
nice little alternative to the Grove or the horror of the malls (or
Red Bank as well)





  

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Re: [AsburyPark] sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:12:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mario and Denise had a short discussion  about the varying degrees between 
supporting education and supporting  sports  Both were making a valid 
point A few years back, ...  I was heartened by the extreme show of support 
by 
AP parents for their  football program, but I came to the same conclusion Mario 
did. Yes, it was a  great show of support for an undefeated football team, 
but, where, I wondered,  was that show of support(and outrage) over the sad 
state of Asbury's school  district? Asbury Park seems to be a front runner, 
when 
the team is good  support them, when the show is Springsteen support him, but 
the little guys  and the losers are just left behind.


Fortunately for me, I taught in a system where academics were a top  
priority.  Academics were complemented, not overshadowed, by sports; and  more 
than 
enough parents were just as interested in Advanced Placement scores as  they 
were in the game scores.
 
I loved teaching advanced placement,
BUT I'm also in favor of fully funded performing arts AND  physical education 
classes for all students:  teaching life-long skills for  physical 
well-being. 
 
Several years ago, there was a state movement to upgrade phys ed  programs so 
that all student could achieve -- based on their  abilities. There would have 
been less emphasis on  competitive activities which ensured losers.  It 
promised life-long  leisure activities for physical health and well-being: 
exercise and games   (no small thing for our overweight and diabetic prone 
nation).
Unfortunately, in the budget making processes around the state,  phys ed and 
the arts were seen as lesser priorities.
 
It's sounds cliched, but no less true, that in today's global work  force,
it's the geek, not the jock, whose prospects are brighter after  high school.
 
Boola, Boola! the old Yale football fight song, is quaint but  meaningless 
when we're competing with the techies from India and China and cheap  labor 
from around the world.
 
In light of those assumptions on my part, I found it silly that  some Howell 
parents were bitchin' about not enough recess time in the school  schedule.  I 
ran into a colleague yesterday who is connected with that  system.  He said 
that the BOE there had recently added 15 more minutes  to the teachers' day so 
that there would be more contact time between teachers  and students; if the 
doting parents have their way, that extra 15  minutes will now be for recess.


That the  kids have achieved so much in the face of such adversity, the HS 
team going  for a championship along with the Pop Warner kids means so much. I 
hope we all  get out there and support them with all we have, I know that I  
will.
Sports, like motherhood and apple pie, will never be short on public  
advocates.
But academics (forget English only -- it's math, science, foreign  
language, civics and skills for life-long learning we need)
seem destined to remain begging for money and committed supporters.
 
==
 
BTW:  Boola, Boola! was before my time. 
In my day, we shouted, Boomlaka, Boomlaka, Siss Boom Bah!  Essex,  Essex! 
Rah, Rah, Rah!  
 
 
 
 







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[AsburyPark] DL BBQ broke into our yard.

2007-11-27 Thread lindagriggsartist
Okay...

So we arrive in Asbury on Friday afternoon and our gate was open and
the bottom slats are broken off the brace.  We go into the backyard
and nothing is disturbed except the wall of DL BBQ which now has a
piece of cardboard and a scrap of plywood nailed over the window.

They didn't even bother to leave a note or lock the gate behind them.
 They left the gate swinging in the wind, letting any passerby know
that we were gone for Thanksgiving.

When DL first fired up the smoker and we couldn't open our windows
for days we spoke to them about the impact of their vent on the
surrounding houses.  We were met with blank faced, arrogant
indifference and, not surprisingly, that's what we got when we asked
about them trespassing on our property.

Later, the maitre d'/waiter admitted to coming into our yard but he
claimed he didn't break the gate.   

So we filed a police report and had to have the police go into the
restaurant and talk to them.  

Does anyone know who owns that building now?  1206 Main St.

 Any advice on this kind of issue is appreciated.  

Linda Griggs



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: DL BBQ broke into our yard.

2007-11-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
Wow, that's a terrible story.
Good thing you called the cops.
You might also have a legal issue with them if their smoker is
impacting your lifestyle. They really need to be made to understand
that they are part of a community and that it benefits them to be
friendly with their neighbors. Maybe you could extend them some kind
of olive branch in order to help them become more friendly. It doesn't
sound like they are going to make the first move, so it might benefit
you to make an attempt.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Okay...
 
 So we arrive in Asbury on Friday afternoon and our gate was open and
 the bottom slats are broken off the brace.  We go into the backyard
 and nothing is disturbed except the wall of DL BBQ which now has a
 piece of cardboard and a scrap of plywood nailed over the window.
 
 They didn't even bother to leave a note or lock the gate behind them.
  They left the gate swinging in the wind, letting any passerby know
 that we were gone for Thanksgiving.
 
 When DL first fired up the smoker and we couldn't open our windows
 for days we spoke to them about the impact of their vent on the
 surrounding houses.  We were met with blank faced, arrogant
 indifference and, not surprisingly, that's what we got when we asked
 about them trespassing on our property.
 
 Later, the maitre d'/waiter admitted to coming into our yard but he
 claimed he didn't break the gate.   
 
 So we filed a police report and had to have the police go into the
 restaurant and talk to them.  
 
 Does anyone know who owns that building now?  1206 Main St.
 
  Any advice on this kind of issue is appreciated.  
 
 Linda Griggs





 
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[AsburyPark] Re:Donation Address Correction

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone wants to oraganize a spaghetti / pasta dinner fund raiser 
 I can donate the pasta sauce
 
 Francesco Rinaldi is our brand and we do donate quite a bit of sauce 
 for fund raisers.  Probably will not generate 22K but could help.  
 Most of the money raised at these dinners is from auctions / 50/50 
 raffle, etc.
 
 John
 

This afternoon at a meeting with Chetrit the owner of the BCH, he
committed to giving $5K for the trip. That should not stop anyone from
contributing what you can. These kids need to know there is something
to come out of doing good.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: DL BBQ broke into our yard.

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I could not find that entity in NYS Dept of Corps. Check with City,
 they should have a phone number for someone, but it seems as your case
 is against the restaurant.



It is an NJ LLC. The mortgages give two different addresses, the one
in Brooklyn indicated above and one at 27 Roseld Ave, Deal NJ 07723.

The person that signed for the LLC is a Ninette Sabin.





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: DL BBQ broke into our yard.

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Does anyone know who owns that building now?  1206 Main St.


Sold from 

LEVY, ISAAC
272 A NORWOOD AVENUE
DEAL, NJ   07723

to 

1206 MAIN STREET LLC
483 KINGS HIGHWAY
BROOKLYN, NY   11223

in April 2007. 

I could not find that entity in NYS Dept of Corps. Check with City,
they should have a phone number for someone, but it seems as your case
is against the restaurant.




 
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[AsburyPark] Any Maxie updates?

2007-11-27 Thread Jack Pitzer
I'm wondering, are there any Maxie sighting or updates to report?



 
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RE: [AsburyPark] Any Maxie updates?

2007-11-27 Thread Anthony Newarski
Hey Jack,

 

Unfortunately there have been no more sightings of Maxie, I still have hope
that she will be found and returned to us, all that I hope for is at the
least someone took her in and is taking good care of her. We will never give
up looking for her.

 

Regards,

 

Anthony 

 

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Behalf Of Jack Pitzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 7:03 PM
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AsburyPark] Any Maxie updates?

 

I'm wondering, are there any Maxie sighting or updates to report?

 



[AsburyPark] Re: Anybody check out the Xmas market in CH?

2007-11-27 Thread evosap
oh god...i was gushing with infatuation after having a couple a beers
by the tree.  cannot wait for the fireworks! and for shiver to open! 
i love MM!  don't know how they deal with the goons.

maybe they will do a fun dance party with a great dj (AP needs to work
on the dj pool imo)..though what can be done about the sound in the hall?

great idea for the free parking, though i think we need the cash!

i have to admit i was hoping for a little more off the wall ideas on
the budget deficit.  development, development yeah yeah yeah...though
i love the moving of city hall...to springwood!  that's keady's idea
and it needs some more voices behind it.  i still think we should chip
in.  and be very aware of the economy ap is sitting inand
uh...what about the budget committee?  someone on this list has the
noodle for it.

cheers





 
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Re: [AsburyPark]

2007-11-27 Thread Mike Hemeon
I don't do CNN I walk over to Fox. I was responding to a post that was here. 
You know the one you responded too. BTW  What is the status of the Merry Go 
Round?

maubddny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mike, you logged into an Asbury Park message board.. You know... a 
place to discuss issues pertaining to Asbury Park (Development, 
Boardwalk etc.). If you want to discuss a broader issues, maybe you 
should shuffle off to CNN.Com



 

   
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