[AsburyPark] note, this is sent with yongue firmly in cheek
Tommie wrote... I happen to strive for responsibility in journalism Then explain why you write for the TCN? Also, why are you on hiatus?. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: note, this is sent with yongue firmly in cheek
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tommie wrote... I happen to strive for responsibility in journalism Then explain why you write for the TCN? Also, why are you on hiatus?. Retired. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A King was born on this very night.
Jim, Glenn, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! To All: A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, to You All, as well! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Merry Christmas! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] RIP Frank
I love people who stopped schooling at High School, but end up noticably smarter with bigger vocabularies than us colloge dopes. Frank was such a big personality. I'll miss him at Frank's Deli (How's it goin' kid!). Very few people call me kid anymore. __ Former Asbury Park mayor remembered ASBURY PARK Former Mayor Frank Fiorentino had a way about him, according to former City Manager Samuel J. Addeo. Frankie was personable and gave people the sense he was giving them the homey approach when talking to them about anything, he said. Fiorentino, 88, died on Friday. He was the mayor of Asbury Park from 1982 to July 1, 1989. Addeo worked for the city during that time. The one thing Frankie could do was lead people. He could get people to follow him, he said during a telephone interview Sunday. And, he referred to Fiorentino as Frankie. They were colleagues and friends. Addeo, who now lives in Lawrenceville, Ga., retired from his position in 1993. He said he and Fiorentino still kept in contact. He also said Fiorentino was in office during a difficult time in the city's history. He dealt with issues that could have been national problems (such as limited state and federal funds), Addeo said. The city was on the verge of bankruptcy. Some of the memorable sayings of the former mayor, or Frankie-isms as Addeo called them, were when Fiorentino would always interrupt lawyers at the council meetings. Frankie would tell the lawyers they were trained to remember things and to hold that thought, then he (Fiorentino) would go on a tangent about something or he would tell them (the lawyers) they had 5- gallon brains in a 10-gallon hat, he said. Fiorentino also described himself as witty, sarcastic and sometimes downright combative according to a July 1989 article. Asbury Park has lost a good man, said James Bruno, the city's deputy mayor. Although Bruno said he and Fiorentino never worked directly on the council together Bruno joined the council in 2001 he said he has known Fiorentino for many years. We considered Frank a family member, he said. He loved Asbury Park; he loved his family; he was a good man. He will be missed. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: RIP Frank
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love people who stopped schooling at High School, but end up noticably smarter with bigger vocabularies than us colloge dopes. Frank was such a big personality. I'll miss him at Frank's Deli (How's it goin' kid!). Very few people call me kid anymore. His son was my little league coach never had a winning season. Frankie would tell the lawyers they were trained to remember things and to hold that thought, then he (Fiorentino) would go on a tangent about something or he would tell them (the lawyers) they had 5- gallon brains in a 10-gallon hat, he said. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] A King was born on this very night.
The month and day of Jesus' birthday is also unknown. However, we can be fairly certain that it was not 12/25. THE SHEPHERDS: Luke 2:8 mentions that shepherds were living in their fields keeping watch over their flocks during the nighttime (and, one would assume, also during the daytime.) This is a good indication that Jesus' birth did not happen in December when the flocks would have already have been moved from the fields to pens. They were only in the fields during the hotter months. There is a remark in the Talmud that flocks were put out to grass in March and brought in during the beginning of November. During the Jewish month of Heshvan (our October/November) the fall rains hit and the animals are penned up. At best, the passage narrows down the birth month to one of 7 months in the late spring, summer, or early fall. Hilke Dokter 4 offers three indicators from the Bible that Jesus was born during the month of Tishri (September/October). The month of Jesus birth can be calculated with reference to the conception of John the Baptist: Luke 1:5 says that John's father, Zacharias, was a member of the Abijah division of the Temple service corps. (Living Bible) 1 Chronicles 24:15 assigned the priests of the Abijah division to begin temple service at the start of the 9th week of the year. But at the end of the week, Pentecost had begun, so he would have remained on duty until the end of the 10th week. Luke 1:23-24 records that Zacharias returned immediately to his home, and that John was conceived shortly thereafter - probably during the last half of Sivan, the 3rd month in the Jewish calendar. Allowing for a normal 9 months pregnancy, John would have been born in the springtime. Luke 1:36 records that the angel came to Mary when John's mother Elizabeth was 6 months pregnant. Luke 1:31 reports that Mary conceived very shortly after the angel's visit. Assuming a normal, 9 month pregnancy, Jesus would have been born about 6 months after John - sometime in the fall of the year. On Dec 24, 2007, at 1:08 AM, dapawprint wrote: Merry Christmas! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] May that be truly said of us...
And it was always said of him, that he knew how to keep Christmas well, if any man alive possessed the knowledge. May that be truly said of us, and all of us! And so, as Tiny Tim observed, God bless Us, Every One!Charles Dickens \ = (Complete free text with original illustrations available at ftp://sailor.gutenberg.lib.md.us/gutenberg/4/46/46-h/46-h.htm ftp://sailor.gutenberg.lib.md.us/gutenberg/4/46/46-h/46-h.htm along with thousands of others at http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/ http://www.gutenberg.org/catalog/ ) Mario http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database?query=destefanome\ thod=reportRowstbl=3
[AsburyPark] My hope for 2008
1) Tear down the Esperanza, or make it into a parking garage. AP cannot endure another C-8 2) Level all undeveloped construction sites and plant grass to help make the area look less like Beirut 3) Creamer needs to keep up on maintaining the fences around some of their construction sites. The lot behind the Empress once again has a falling down fence that looks like crap. The lot across from the Stone Pony now has new graffitti on it's fence. We need to have no tolerence for this 4) Re-open the Wonder Bar, and get the Baronet and Fastlane back in action. 5) It's too bad that Rita had to lose her Deli for nothing. Clean that site up and reopen it as well. 6) PAVE KINGSLEY 7) Knock down the horrible bungalows 8) Figure out a way to kick AP Partners to the curb and get them the hell out of our city. I read somewhere that those who hope the ESP will get back on track think it might be a good thing that construction is halted and that it will give the market time to improve etc. The source of those comments are people that don't live in AP and have to deal with the ugly mess on a daily basis. These redevelopment interests don't understand that we've been looking at a scarred landscape for decades, and we are sick of it. Wipe the slate clean. Come up with the right kind of redevelopment plan for our city and execute it. Realize that pure entertainment is the only logical choice for our future. It succeeded in the past, and succeeds elsewhere currently. Why is this so hard to understand? Happy Holidays Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists – experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide – who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by-SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to learn the truth about what real scientists - those not receiving Oscars, Emmys, and Nobel Peace Prizes - think about this controversial issue, even though the report ignores what real scientists have said that contradict the claims in the report. On Dec 23, 2007, at 10:25 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Choose a bit more wisely next time. Oh one more thing: The report with the 400+ scientists disputing the Global Warming claims, it came from: The United State's Senate. No wonder the New York Times didn't cover it and the Washington Times did. The NYT aren't very up to date on politics.
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by-SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to learn the truth about what real scientists - those not receiving Oscars, Emmys, and Nobel Peace Prizes - think about this controversial issue, even though the report ignores what real scientists have said that contradict the claims in the report. On Dec 23, 2007, at 10:25 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Choose a bit more wisely next time. Oh one more thing: The report with the 400+ scientists disputing the Global Warming claims, it came from: The United State's Senate. No wonder the New York Times didn't cover it and the Washington Times did. The NYT aren't very up to date on politics. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care, says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to learn the truth about what real scientists - those not receiving Oscars, Emmys, and Nobel Peace Prizes - think about this controversial issue, even though the report ignores what real scientists have said that contradict the claims in the report. On Dec 23, 2007, at 10:25 PM, justifiedright wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Choose a bit more wisely next time. Oh one more thing: The report with the 400+ scientists disputing the Global Warming claims, it came from: The United State's
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
http://coffeehouse.tpmcafe.com/blog/mrs_panstreppon/2007/feb/28/al_gore_electricity_ bills_tennessee_research_center --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care, says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to learn the truth about what real scientists - those not receiving Oscars, Emmys, and Nobel Peace Prizes - think about this controversial issue, even though the report ignores what real scientists have said that contradict the claims in the report. On Dec
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
Tommy, I've saved you some valuable googling time. Here's a link to a google search of Drew Johnson/Exxon http://tinyurl.com/yr7wqx After reading, I look forward to how you are going to explain that away... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://coffeehouse.tpmcafe.com/blog/mrs_panstreppon/2007/feb/28/al_gore_electricity_ bills_tennessee_research_center --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care, says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
Like all these dubious research groups, the TCPR feigns objectivity while twisting the truth and carefully spinning every aspect of itself to look credible. Three of the TCPR’s PhD “scholars” (I use quotes only because it’s their word, not mine) are listed as hailing from Belmont University in Tennessee. To its credit, Belmont University is a perfectly respectable and academically neutral institute of higher learning. The problem is, the only advanced degrees offered at Belmont are related to teaching and physical therapy. TCPR misleading gives the impression that these scholars received their doctorates at a Tennessee university to increase its local credibility. I picked one scholar, Dr. Amy Sturgis, at random (I swear), and found that most of her writing concerns mythology and literature, such as the entertainingly titled, “Harry Potter is a Hobbit”. The closest she gets to policy-making are some analytical papers on Native Americans in the 1700s. I don’t mean to pick on Dr. Sturgis, really, but in all honesty, her academic work is barely connected to the work of the TCPR. The fact that the TCPR is willing to associate with just about any accredited scholar that crosses its path (and does so in deceptive ways) shows what kind of dishonest organization it really is. How can anyone trust a single word of the TCPR’s press releases? Why are major media outlets giving them any airtime at all? I, like many, am calling ßull$h!t. On Dec 24, 2007, at 2:33 PM, justifiedright wrote: Armed with Gore's utility bills for the last two years, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research charged Monday that the gas and electric bills for the former vice president's 20-room home and pool house devoured nearly 221,000 kilowatt-hours in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kilowatt-hours. If this were any other person with $30,000-a-year in utility bills, I wouldn't care, says the Center's 27-year-old president, Drew Johnson. But he tells other people how to live and he's not following his own rules. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists – experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide – who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims -- such as, in Unruh's words, there
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
I'm still trying to figure out why global warming and the environment is not a republican issue - or why it is a partisan issue at all. I think the right has decided to forgo logic and science simply because the left got there first rather than any real disbelief... And in a classic example of hypocrasy, despite being the party of states rights the Bush adminstration overrules states rights to prevent California and 16 other states from implementing their own emmissions standards. Similar to legalizing medicial marajuana and a host of other issues - the republicans rail on about states rights unless states don't agree with the republican position, at which point it is more important to mandate the solution federally. These issues are much of the reason why the republican party is in such disarray (and don't deny that Tom, even prominent republicans say it is). There is no longer any real philosophy and belief, and no evaluation of issues based on merit. Just arguments and arrogance. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims - - such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to learn the truth about what real scientists - those not receiving Oscars, Emmys, and Nobel Peace Prizes - think
[AsburyPark] Re: My hope for 2008
With the exception of the parking garage I'm right there with you Jack. I hope we can do better than a parking garage there! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Tear down the Esperanza, or make it into a parking garage. AP cannot endure another C-8 2) Level all undeveloped construction sites and plant grass to help make the area look less like Beirut 3) Creamer needs to keep up on maintaining the fences around some of their construction sites. The lot behind the Empress once again has a falling down fence that looks like crap. The lot across from the Stone Pony now has new graffitti on it's fence. We need to have no tolerence for this 4) Re-open the Wonder Bar, and get the Baronet and Fastlane back in action. 5) It's too bad that Rita had to lose her Deli for nothing. Clean that site up and reopen it as well. 6) PAVE KINGSLEY 7) Knock down the horrible bungalows 8) Figure out a way to kick AP Partners to the curb and get them the hell out of our city. I read somewhere that those who hope the ESP will get back on track think it might be a good thing that construction is halted and that it will give the market time to improve etc. The source of those comments are people that don't live in AP and have to deal with the ugly mess on a daily basis. These redevelopment interests don't understand that we've been looking at a scarred landscape for decades, and we are sick of it. Wipe the slate clean. Come up with the right kind of redevelopment plan for our city and execute it. Realize that pure entertainment is the only logical choice for our future. It succeeded in the past, and succeeds elsewhere currently. Why is this so hard to understand? Happy Holidays Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
Growing up in New Jersey, I first got involved with the environment through local Republican politicians. Around here, it's kind of hard to get elected unless the ocean and beaches matter to you. I never understood why global warming was a partisan issue either. Apparently, too many Republicans feel the need to do whatever Rush Limbaugh tells them to do and believe whatever he says they should believe. asburycouple wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why global warming and the environment is not a republican issue - or why it is a partisan issue at all. I think the right has decided to forgo logic and science simply because the left got there first rather than any real disbelief... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
For all the democrats anarchy that makes it tough to get things done I think the republican unity driven with an iron fist by Gingrich and his successors has resulted in a party that has lost it's soul and forgotten how to think as individuals. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Growing up in New Jersey, I first got involved with the environment through local Republican politicians. Around here, it's kind of hard to get elected unless the ocean and beaches matter to you. I never understood why global warming was a partisan issue either. Apparently, too many Republicans feel the need to do whatever Rush Limbaugh tells them to do and believe whatever he says they should believe. asburycouple wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why global warming and the environment is not a republican issue - or why it is a partisan issue at all. I think the right has decided to forgo logic and science simply because the left got there first rather than any real disbelief... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: My hope for 2008
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Tear down the Esperanza, or make it into a parking garage. AP cannot endure another C-8 hang dean's image there until the deposit money is refunded so maybe those people can invest (or buy) somewhre else in AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: My hope for 2008
The worst decision ever made I think was the decision to put the sewer plant smack on top of Ocean Ave. Who was mayor then, or who was responsible for that literally crappy decision? In a message dated 12/24/2007 3:18:22 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With the exception of the parking garage I'm right there with you Jack. I hope we can do better than a parking garage there! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Tear down the Esperanza, or make it into a parking garage. AP cannot endure another **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
[AsburyPark] Re: My hope for 2008
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The worst decision ever made I think was the decision to put the sewer plant smack on top of Ocean Ave. Who was mayor then, or who was responsible for that literally crappy decision? it was a nimby decision. Go back to the press from then. Lots of smiling faces. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
The reason is the innate and congenital fear of business regulation. We've seen with the toys with posionous lead distributed by American companies how good industries are at self-regulation. On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:14 PM, asburycouple wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why global warming and the environment is not a republican issue - or why it is a partisan issue at all. I think the right has decided to forgo logic and science simply because the left got there first rather than any real disbelief... And in a classic example of hypocrasy, despite being the party of states rights the Bush adminstration overrules states rights to prevent California and 16 other states from implementing their own emmissions standards. Similar to legalizing medicial marajuana and a host of other issues - the republicans rail on about states rights unless states don't agree with the republican position, at which point it is more important to mandate the solution federally. These issues are much of the reason why the republican party is in such disarray (and don't deny that Tom, even prominent republicans say it is). There is no longer any real philosophy and belief, and no evaluation of issues based on merit. Just arguments and arrogance. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists – experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide – who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims - - such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather reaction to it from any of the global warming scientists whose consensus the report is trying to debunk. Meanwhile, it comes as no surprise that Noel Sheppard touts the report in a Dec. 20 NewsBusters post. Since Sheppard has his own biased history on the subject, he similarly ignores the partisan nature of the report, stating only that it was just published at the United States Senate Committee on Environment Public works website but not that it was published only by the Republicans on the committee. Sheppard also states that readers are strongly encouraged to review this entire document to
[AsburyPark] Re: 1/3 of one degree.
Some things require government involvement for the common good. The sorry state of the Chinese environment is an example of what happens when the government does little to nothing to protect its own environment. They are even talking about closing all the factories in Bejing just to try and clear the air for the Olympics. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason is the innate and congenital fear of business regulation. We've seen with the toys with posionous lead distributed by American companies how good industries are at self-regulation. On Dec 24, 2007, at 3:14 PM, asburycouple wrote: I'm still trying to figure out why global warming and the environment is not a republican issue - or why it is a partisan issue at all. I think the right has decided to forgo logic and science simply because the left got there first rather than any real disbelief... And in a classic example of hypocrasy, despite being the party of states rights the Bush adminstration overrules states rights to prevent California and 16 other states from implementing their own emmissions standards. Similar to legalizing medicial marajuana and a host of other issues - the republicans rail on about states rights unless states don't agree with the republican position, at which point it is more important to mandate the solution federally. These issues are much of the reason why the republican party is in such disarray (and don't deny that Tom, even prominent republicans say it is). There is no longer any real philosophy and belief, and no evaluation of issues based on merit. Just arguments and arrogance. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: That's the same kinda BS that happened when a previously unheard of organization posted info about Al Gore living in a mansion that consumed high amounts of resources. Nobody checked the source of the report, yet it still made the rounds, in fact the report was one of the things that placed the term carbon footprint into the vocabulary of people who'd never even heard the term. It turned out that Gore's home is a great example of taking an energy hungry old building and turn it into a great example of renovation. All of his power comes from green sources. But unfortunately, in our culture of fast news from less then reliable sources, people believe whatever they see on TV or the internet. Some refer to people like this as sheep. For me, i'd rather consider the possibility that there may be a problem, and prepare for it accordingly. What's the downside? A cleaner environment, less waste and a healthier world. How can people complain about that? The only people who probably can complain are companies like Exxon. I say screw Exxon. They've made absurd amounts of money. I'm also fed up with this subject being debated on political terms. The truth is, most of the rest of the world is already doing things to improve the environment. Germany and Holland are global leaders in this effort, and they could care less about dems and republicans. I'd rather follow the rest of the worlds lead and actively speak out against our countries inaction rather then be one of the sheep. I'd love to hear somebody like Tommy convince me that changes made because of the possibility of global warming can somehow be a bad thing. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorejohn@ wrote: A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily article by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: A new U.S. Senate report documents hundreds of prominent scientists experts in dozens of fields of study worldwide who say global warming and cooling is a cycle of nature and cannot legitimately be connected to man's activities. But it's not a U.S. Senate report; as Unruh himself states in a curiously vaguely fashion later in the article, The new report comes from the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's office of the GOP ranking member. But who is that mysterious GOP ranking member? Unruh doesn't say. (It's Sen. James Inhofe, whom Unruh cites later in the article but doesn't identify as the committee's GOP ranking member. Since it comes from the GOP ranking member and not from the entire committee, as Unruh falsely implied in the lead, it's a partisan report -- but Unruh never explicitly states that, either. Unruh also reflects the bias of the report, and his own biased brand of journalism, by uncritically repeating its unverified claims - - such as, in Unruh's words, there probably would be many more scientists making such statements, were it not for the fear of retaliation from those aboard the global-warming-is-caused-by- SUVs bandwagon -- and making no attempt to gather
[AsburyPark] The Trollhouse Cookbook
Sites try various weapons to combat trolls. Campaign trolls popped up en masse in 2004 on Democratic presidential hopeful Howard Dean's Web site. Dean supporters batted them back with a troll goal, donating money to the campaign's coffers each time they spotted an offending post. The supporters crowed about each sighting, eliminating the trolls' incentive to disrupt. http://tinyurl.com/yubf4w Most campaigns and individual bloggers invite readers to report offensive comments, and others approve each comment before it appears. At the liberal discussion Web site Daily Kos, trusted users can block people whose comments regularly offend members. Daily Kos has another tactic: the recipe. When a troll attempts to start a conversation at that site, loyalists post recipes instead of engaging them. With so many trolls, the recipes have proliferated -- enough so that Daily Kos compiled a 144- page Trollhouse Cookbook, including crab bisque inspired by President Bush's second inauguration and Liberal Elite Cranberry Glazed Brie. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Hark! AP's Herald Angels Sing...
Hark! Hear the Herald Angels Sing! [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Some things require government involvement for the common good a party that has lost it's soul and forgotten how to think as individuals. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Hmmm. So MANY name-calling right-wingers to pick from...A Dec. 21 WorldNetDaily _article_ (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59319) by Bob Unruh breathelssly began: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Poisonous exhaust...Unholy wars fought over itEnvironmental holocaust...A little common sense can go a long way. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: there are dozen paragraphs which differ in thought, and come from more reputable sources. I've saved you some valuable googling time. Here's a link to a google search of Drew Johnson/Exxon [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Apparently, too many Republicans feel the need to do whatever Rush Limbaugh tells them to do and believe whatever he says they should believeWere they interested in a true debate over the scientific merit? or were they just trying to appease a certain group of voters? And the angels said, Peace on Earth to Men of Good Will. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
