[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
the good school systems = higher priced homes (that's what they say...). Ex: Holmdel has an excellent school system, and you pay extra for that or.. Interlaken has no school system so you pay more...for that... What's driving people awayPROPERTY TAXES. The burbs are lacking (most are) a commercial center / office complexes to help pay the high cost of government and schools with no cap in the future. So when you're kids head off to college and that new 5-7,000 sq ft house (or more) becomes a 30k tax bill and 5k a month to heat and 12k a month mortgage, you might wake up and head off to a 2 bedroom condo with all the features...or where I went visting in Fl the villages - a giant frat party for the over 55 crowd. 5 sq miles, close to 4 million sq ft of retail, 2 town squares where happy hour starts at 5pm where 80% of the people don't leave the gates and drive around in golf carts vs cars. Florida's friendliest hometown... Expected to grow from 70,000 people today to 105,000 to 120,000 by 2012 140,000 by 2015. Why? Avg 2 bed/2 bth home $154k today (less if you want less, more if you still need more..) After a few days watching the semiretired o retired having a great,c arefree time - it's a scary look into the future. Lots of studies have been done about this particular community... the friendliest community has distinct villages, a developer who some claim is only in it for themselves (the family of the founder), home owner associations, property owner associations, architectural review boards (some people have to add on.. can't leave well enough alone), a radio station, tv station, paper, churches, pools, rec centers, golf courses, gates etc etc... 5 sq miles. AP is a bit more then 1. Not that I want to be stuck in the middle of florida but there is ONE exmaple of an affordable retirement community - why struggle to pay up to nj property taxes? Especially if you can't afford it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Internet and Christmas Day....
In looking some stats to see what was popular on one of my sites Christmas Day (whose searching for what...) Two most popular searches: 1. Section 8 Housing 2. Evictions Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Tenants Rights Seminar
Hey All, The Community Health Law Project and Ocean Monmouth Legal Services are hosting a free tenants rights seminar on Thursday January 22, 2009 at 6:30 for the community. Another attorney and I will be discussing the rights of tenants in New Jersey. We will briefly touch on Section 8 tenancy and housing authorities as well, and we will take questions at the end. If you are a tenant or own property, you should consider attending. My office is overwhelmed with people losing their apartments or being taken advantage of by unscrupulous landlords. Also, landlords will be given a overview on the proper procedures to evict people. New Jersey has some unique laws pertaining to landlord/ tenant relationships. The City of Asbury Park is co-sponsoring the event and will be providing refreshments. Contact me if you have any questions, and please forward this to anyone who may be interested. amyqu...@gmail.com I will send out another reminder when we get a bit closer to the date. Amy Quinn Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
It's one thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is something entirely different. You judge and attack people. And whenever possible, you attacks include proclaiming that it's all liberals fault and blah blah blah. What you lack is the ability to be objective, and you also refuse to admit that there's something wrong with America. Guess what? This country is a mess right now, and it doesn't look like it's going to become any better anytime soon, if ever. I thought of a metaphor this morning that makes me think of you. In a way, I think the way people drive on the GSP and NJ Turnpike is a little glimpse into what conservatives have done to America. What do I mean? Well, conservatives don't want people to be governed. They want America to be a free for all, where people govern themselves. And on NJ highways, we currently have practically no enforcement of speed limits, and people drive like crap. They tailgate. They are angry. They act entitled, as if going 90 mph is their right. This morning, I briefly went into the left lane, going 80, to get around a text messaging person that was a menace on the road. And what happens next? Some old guy in an SUV comes up behind me going probably 90 mph and starts tailgating. He wants me out of his way, despite the fact that there isn't an opening for a few more cars. He gives me the finger. He does everything except run me off the road. Finally, I get into the right lane and this guy floors it past me, and gives me a look that basically said I want to beat the shit out of you and away he went. He had a W bumper sticker. I guess he was also upset about my Obama sticker. So what do I mean by all this? Here in NJ, our roadways are a mess with out of control drivers who think they are entitled to their shitty, selfish driving. And here in America, our country is a mess because for the past 8 years, our president has been asleep at the wheel, and our citizens are becoming more and more selfish, self centered and disconnected with the meaning of being part of a once great country. We need government to keep us in line, because just like our out of control highways, unless there's somebody out there to keep us under control, we'll make a mess out of everything, because we'll take advantage of the system. Now the mess that America has become is dragging the rest of the world down with it. And behind the scenes, we have people like you...more interested in your own agenda then the bigger picture. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: Well when ever you put the country down you will hear from me. You are describing yourself. You still haven't told me who it is that is holdin you down. I already know it yourself. If you don't get an education it is no ones fault but your own and the parents of dropouts. You don't understand what keeping your eyes on the prize even means. From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2008 9:01:34 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You! Mario, I will now go back to ignoring as if he doesn't exist, this resident troll, who manages to get me off course, as far as Asbury Park, it's comeback or demise, to take even 2 seconds to reply to such bigoted rantings! To the rest of the group, I humbly apologize for having become the subject of an apparent wannabe Klansman/separatist /bigoted/ segregationists/ skinhead, that make all citizens Black/White or other, practice this stupidity and try to ruin our common goal and that is to address the redevelopment or not of this beloved City. --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Keeping your eyes on the prize means finishing high school. You were never a slave so get over it. Farrakhan is a segragationist and a terrific calypso dancer back in the day I might add. Save your slave speech I can't listen to that crap anymore. To me Liberal means FREE STUFF! _ _ __ From: sharon_b283 sharon_b283@ ... To: asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:45:40 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You! Watch one episode of Eyes On the Prize, which PBS is re-airing and you'll know why riots happened! 450 years of slavery, coupled by segregation and Jim Crow, including the East Coast, you have the formula. Apparently, you never studied history! I guarantee you, that Mario knows a hell of a lot more than YOU do! If you consider yourself a Conservative, that's code speak for segregationists/ states rights advocate, which would perpetuate separate and unequal! I call myself a Liberal, capital L and proud of it! --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2000@ ... wrote: Mario I really don't care what the hell you have to say. You really have to get out
[AsburyPark] Location....
All, The Tenant's Rights Seminar is being held at the Salvation Army at 605 Asbury Ave, Asbury Park on January 22, 2009 at 6:30. Amy Quinn Santander Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Location....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bailyquinn amyqu...@... wrote: Great service. The topic should be: Tenants AND Landlords Rights and Responsbilities The tenant, in addition to their rights, has responsbilities like the landlord. A new landlord can be taken by unscruplous tenant... Also, see: RentLaw.com or... LEGAL SERVICES OF NJ: Tenants Right Handbook: English http://www.lsnjlaw.org/english/placeilive/irentmyhome/tenantsrights/in dex.cfm o En Espanol: Inquilinos = Tenants http://www.lsnjlaw.org/espanol/lugardondevivo/derechosinquilinos/index .cfm Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Internet and Christmas Day....
Great info! Wasn't online for 2 days, but watched an expose' that dealt with homeowners and renters being evicted from homes! (News 12 NJ). Very sad, in the case of renters who are paid up only to be given eviction notices because the owner defaulted. It's against the law to evict a renter, simply because the owner defaulted. Didn't know that and renters should attend whatever workshops available. When school closed for the holidays, a disabled woman, renting told me a story about her landlord not providing heat. This was when the temp was down to 14-19 degrees. I advised her to call Fair Housing in Freehold and to file a complaint with the Asbury Park Police, for the record. Also Code enforcement in City Hall should have been notified. It's criminal to deprive someone of heat and/or hot water! The lady didn't seem to know what her options were. She is on Section 8 and I informed her that Uncle Sam had already paid her rent, so under the law, she should complain to them, also. Code Enforcement will send a representative over to the address and survey any violations, contact the landlord and give them X days, hours or whatever to fix these problems. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: In looking some stats to see what was popular on one of my sites Christmas Day (whose searching for what...) Two most popular searches: 1. Section 8 Housing 2. Evictions Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Internet and Christmas Day....
County Health Department also enforces no heat complaints From: sharon_b283 sharon_b...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:51:32 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The Internet and Christmas Day Great info! Wasn't online for 2 days, but watched an expose' that dealt with homeowners and renters being evicted from homes! (News 12 NJ). Very sad, in the case of renters who are paid up only to be given eviction notices because the owner defaulted. It's against the law to evict a renter, simply because the owner defaulted. Didn't know that and renters should attend whatever workshops available. When school closed for the holidays, a disabled woman, renting told me a story about her landlord not providing heat. This was when the temp was down to 14-19 degrees. I advised her to call Fair Housing in Freehold and to file a complaint with the Asbury Park Police, for the record. Also Code enforcement in City Hall should have been notified. It's criminal to deprive someone of heat and/or hot water! The lady didn't seem to know what her options were. She is on Section 8 and I informed her that Uncle Sam had already paid her rent, so under the law, she should complain to them, also. Code Enforcement will send a representative over to the address and survey any violations, contact the landlord and give them X days, hours or whatever to fix these problems. --- In asburyp...@yahoogro ups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: In looking some stats to see what was popular on one of my sites Christmas Day (whose searching for what...) Two most popular searches: 1. Section 8 Housing 2. Evictions [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Internet and Christmas Day....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... wrote: a story about her landlord not providing heat. This was when the temp was down to 14-19 degrees. The landlords an idiot for not providing heat - if pipes go, it's more problems. BUT... just because she is on section 8, doesn't mean the landlord is responsibile. On the section 8 forms - there is a clear list of who is responsbile for paying for heat etc. Section 8 case worker, tenant and landlord all sign the papers. I now have three section 8 tenants. Beats chasing down non section 8 tenants for rent - so far. States paying about 90% of the rent. And in addition to getting a CO from the town, section 8 does an inspection as well. Actually in OT, we have three - fire dept, health dept for co and for section 8, the section 8 inspection. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
I don't blame all Liberals for anything. I blame liberals for being extremely naive and never, ever, ever taking responsiblity for anything! We are where we are because Clinton, Barney Frank, and Dodd relaxed the requirements allowing anyone to get a mortgage. But the blame goes to Bush how is that? Well he could have changed it but then he would be holding someone down! The same goes with all forms of credit. Why is it nobody is responsible for their own actions??? Everyone is a victim. Have you heard anyone say well I didn't really read the contract? NOPE! SOMEONE ELSES FAULT NOT MINE! The American dream is within everyone's reach. You KNOW that is not true. You have to make it happen yourself. Obama is the first black president and there are people on this list that think things are going to change. I don't know about you, but I have always lived with a white president and not a friggen one of them did anything for me! When people make remarks about this country for no reason based upon some reverse-red neck philiosphy I won't stand for it. I am damned tired of hearing this country is a fascist country that holds people down. Really, really tired of hearing it. If you won't get off you ass an get an education and then have the nuts to blame the government or white people I WILL NOT STAND FOR IT! When I ask how immigrants, with an education, come into this country and do better than those born here there is no explanation. Just rants. Why? It is ONLY conservatives that spent more than they could afford and live beyond their means not Democrats. Get with it will you. I only see the big picture and entitlements are not the way to proceed on this. Nor is bailing everyone and everything out. The country is where it is now because everyone had a good old time the past 10 to 20 years spending money they didn't have. So the solution is bail them out, give them more credit so they can do it again and get further in debt. Do you think that will work? We will eventually become a secondary country to countries like China and India that value education, save money, still have family values, and have the hunger to succeed that this country lost decades ago. These people don't bring mommy and daddy with them for college and job interviews. Over the next year you will increasingly see the quality of life in this country diminish. I am already seeing it. You will see the selections in every type of store decrease to almost the point where all they will sell is necessities similar to the way things were in the 60's. You will see this in your lifetime and what happens in Asbury Park will be the least of your worries. From: Jack Pitzer hing...@yahoo.com To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:34:24 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You! It's one thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is something entirely different. You judge and attack people. And whenever possible, you attacks include proclaiming that it's all liberals fault and blah blah blah. What you lack is the ability to be objective, and you also refuse to admit that there's something wrong with America. Guess what? This country is a mess right now, and it doesn't look like it's going to become any better anytime soon, if ever. I thought of a metaphor this morning that makes me think of you. In a way, I think the way people drive on the GSP and NJ Turnpike is a little glimpse into what conservatives have done to America. What do I mean? Well, conservatives don't want people to be governed. They want America to be a free for all, where people govern themselves. And on NJ highways, we currently have practically no enforcement of speed limits, and people drive like crap. They tailgate. They are angry. They act entitled, as if going 90 mph is their right. This morning, I briefly went into the left lane, going 80, to get around a text messaging person that was a menace on the road. And what happens next? Some old guy in an SUV comes up behind me going probably 90 mph and starts tailgating. He wants me out of his way, despite the fact that there isn't an opening for a few more cars. He gives me the finger. He does everything except run me off the road. Finally, I get into the right lane and this guy floors it past me, and gives me a look that basically said I want to beat the shit out of you and away he went. He had a W bumper sticker. I guess he was also upset about my Obama sticker. So what do I mean by all this? Here in NJ, our roadways are a mess with out of control drivers who think they are entitled to their shitty, selfish driving. And here in America, our country is a mess because for the past 8 years, our president has been asleep at the wheel, and our citizens are becoming more and more selfish, self centered and disconnected with the meaning of being part of a once great country. We
[AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: well you might come across rough, but: 1. Front page of today's press, ...more schools adding mandarian chineese... to the foreign language as an option So much for spanish. Read the article. 2. As for what's in stores...they still are/were offering NO INTEREST for 6, 12 or 18 months on those giant tvs 3. As for the quality of stuff in stores-many articles about the next downgrade in the quality of clothing etc that is offered. alot of people buy a lot of junk they really just don't need. That includes alot of the extra food and drinks, cigs, etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
Mario, The article is interesting and could be valid except we are missing a very necessary component unless the childless households are also retired. We do not have enough local industry in Asbury Park to support all of its residents. There are very few large scale walk-to jobs. Back in the day, Asbury Park had the phone company and the gas company. We do not have those types of jobs anymore. I would love to live and work in the same city. I would love to stop driving except when absolutely necessary. In order to create that type of city, we need to lure larger employers here. We have the buildings. We have the trains and we could have better buses or an in-city transit system. For a city to be healthy, it needs to have a balance of incomes. There needs to be affordable housing and reliable affordable transportation for the lower income workers. It really does need a good school system for the middle and lower income workers because otherwise it won't have balance in the distribution of the population. AP has a lot going for it especially location and the small town disguised as a city aspect. It is on a major transit route. It has one industry in tourism and entertainment. I also has small businesses and local professionals like Realtors, lawyers, doctors, etc. It does have the state office building too. That is definitely a half-full glass. If we want to fill the glass to the top then we need to attract larger businesses. That isn't impossible. There are great tax benefits for a business to open AP facilities. I looked into doing that when I was at Bank of NY. We were going to relocate our Manasquan operations office and our Bradley Beach branch to Grand Ave. We did that in Newburgh, NY and it made sense to do the same here. I don't know too much about schools so I'll leave that up to those who do. I do know communities. They work best when there is a mix. That is especially true for smaller cities. I think the glass could fill up. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Is the Glass Half Empty or Half Full of Home Buyers?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Back in the day, Asbury Park had the phone company and the gas company. We do not have those types of jobs anymore. - And Hotels and Motels. And Auto dealers and department stores. .we need to lure larger employers here. We have the buildings. - no buildings for large employers, 'cept 601 bangs that TD says and does need a major overhaul. Not enough. For a city to be healthy, it needs to have a balance of incomes. There needs to be affordable housing and reliable affordable transportation for the lower income workers. - AP really does have alot of affordable housing. Is it nice is another issue. That is if you include all the apartments and condo rentals. Depend how you count. It really does need a good school system for the middle and lower income workers because otherwise it won't have balance in the distribution of the population. - With $100m year budget.never mind. also has small businesses and local professionals like Realtors, lawyers, doctors - realtors with their license hanging in AP outnumber doctors in AP probably 50 - 1. into doing that when I was at Bank of NY. We were going to relocate our Manasquan operations office and our Bradley Beach branch to Grand Ave - and they said? Check out thevillages.com (I looked at this place as a weird version of AP - but it's 5 times the size...) They even have a farm that people spend time growing food for the local food banks... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Dan J on WCBS
He has others lined up. NPR is calling. Hysterical. Take a listen: http://podcast.wcbs880.com/wcbs/1495670.mp3 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Dan J on WCBS
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedri...@... wrote: He has others lined up. NPR is calling. Hysterical. He gives a good interview. Of the reasons the paper grew is that those increased pages may be attributed to the growth of the area - like the advertising done by Madison Marquette and the businesses on the boardwalk (the ones that aren't needed for AP to grow...) and the various businesses that come and go in the area. Well done. I can't find the description I had a few weeks ago of guidelines for newspapers - content vs. ads. But people do pick up the paper - either to see the ads and to scan the content. I still think he bring in a few extra $ easily, no extra staff, adding his old content on the web. Hey - charge $5.00 to become a lifetime TCN scubscriber and grant us access to that old contentand old ads ): You'd actually get MORE subscribers at $9.95. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
In a message dated 12/29/2008 9:34:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hing...@yahoo.com writes: It's one thing to defend something you believe in. What you are doing is something entirely different. ...refuse to admit that there's something wrong...with America Guess what? This country is a mess right now, then the bigger picture. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hemeon tvnetdude2...@... wrote: Well when ever you put the country down you will hear from me. I confidently trust that the American people will prove themselves...too wise not to detect the false pride or the dangerous ambitions or the selfish schemes which so often hide themselves under that deceptive cry of mock patriotism: Our country, right or wrong! They will not fail to recognize that our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Humbug to You!
I forgot to include the source:Republican Carl Schurz, who also said, The man who in times of popular excitement boldly and unflinchingly resists hot-tempered clamor...and thus exposes himself to the opprobrious imputation of a lack of patriotism or of courage...is at least as good a patriot as the hero of the most daring feat of arms, and a far better one than those who, with an ostentatious pretense of superior patriotism, cry for war before it is needed, especially if then they let others do the fighting. – Carl Schurz, About Patriotism, Harper’s Weekly, April 16, 1898 In a message dated 12/30/2008 1:16:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, marioa...@aol.com writes: I confidently trust that the American people will prove themselves...too wise not to detect the false pride or the dangerous ambitions or the selfish schemes which so often hide themselves under that deceptive cry of mock patriotism: Our country, right or wrong! They will not fail to recognize that our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism Our country--when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right. **One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dpicid=aolcom40vanityncid=emlcntaolcom0025) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
