[AsburyPark] Parking Permits
Hmmm What's wrong with this picture? You purchase your $30 parking permit to park in front of your home ... or so you think. All the spaces are taken and you end up parking a block away in any case... ... making your $30 permit moot. - Note: Many communities that have high usage parking needs adjacent to residential areas (such as train stations, theaters, etc) will issue resident permits AND create a parking area for Resident Permit Only usage. Which guarantees that residents (tax payers) are not inconvenienced. Clearly the parking NEEDS and PROCESS have not been completely thought through regarding the beachfront. Wb Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Complaints
When did complaints become a negative thing? I recall that many places had a Complaint Box.. Businesses routinely encourage feedback from customers... How do things improve if no one complains?... Process Quality Management (PQM) - It was discovered that fixing a problem in a product after it has been made is expensive and time consuming. Preventing a problem from getting into the product is much more desirable. Thinking through all the contingencies in the Process and assuring a Quality Product before it is released is good business sense. 'Complaints' are nothing more than notifications of flaws or problems and should be encouraged to get better quality output by changing the process. Applies to many things in life and planning... except, apparently, in Asbury Park. Here it's - 'Shut up and Drink the Cool-Aid or move out'. :-( Wb Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking lines on 1st Ave. btwn Kingsley and Bergh
Hinge: First, you are NOT a whiner. This is a forum about what ails Asbury and this is but ONE of a slew of valid complaints over the years. Two, despite the absence of posts here lately, the group has NOT died a natural death. We the residents are NEVER considered, notified, etc., for lack of better words; they just fall on VERY deaf ears! Three, not to knock the cost of a parking permit, I pay $35.00 a month for the privilege of parking underground. Double that to 2 spots at $70.00 a month times 12 and it's $840.00 a year. We CHOSE to go this route years ago because of snow, our ages, etc. Four, like Tinton Falls that issue parking permits with their signature, green maple leaf identification, ALL residents of Asbury Park SHOULD have a parking sticker in light of the crowds this area generates from May through September and special events on said boardwalk. We ALL pay taxes here and to try and squeeze SOME residents over others sound unconstitutional. Cars without the sticker couold be towed with proper signage ON the blocks designated. Asbury Park receives UEZ funds and THAT SHOULD have covered the costs! Lastly, FIVE, a resident, ANY resident has the right to differ with decisions affecting them, their lifestyle, quality of life issues and any damned thing else that bothers, bugs or aggravate them. This affects you directly. I feel you. For whatever reason others think what they want, ignore the obvious. You have been and will continue to be an alert observer of what has become almost an experiment. As long as you have breath, Agitate in the words of Malcolm. I HEAR YOU! WE DESERVE FREE PARKING! SharonB --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@... wrote: It's not even worth trying to reason with people on your opinions in this group. All you get are comparisons and name calling. I wonder why the residents of my street weren't notified, and I'm a crybaby. I wonder why the family 2 houses away from me will park for free and I'm a crybaby. I wonder why the street I live on, that has had a perpetual curb flood for most of the past 6 years (it's not a puddle, it's a block long) isn't fixed and I'm a crybaby and I get more comparisons to NYC. I know all about NYC. I worked there and commuted there. My whole original point was amazingly simple...notify the residents in advance, is that so hard to fathom? Next, I got to watch lines painted over potholes, and not even to the curb. Why? Because the street on my block is a mess, and in my mind, as crazy as it might seem, one would think that fixing the street before wasting the money to paint the parking lines would probably be a good idea. And for that, I'm a crybaby Meanwhile, the guy who lives here part time, and 6 blocks away otherwise, fully understands my perspective and feels perfectly fine about lowering the level of the conversation by name calling. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@ wrote: No sorry don't think I missed the point. Where do you come off saying that I think we deserve free parking? Let me try this again refering back to the initial point of paid parking - if Asbury Park is considering charging certain residents $15 for parking, and presently some residents are charged $30 per year for parking, then perhaps the charges should be $30 per year --for all residents if within a certain # of blocks from the beach/downtown, if that is considered a premium area to park. And just so there's no misunderstanding I have no problem paying the $30. The $30 is fair. We park in the garage, the street parking is utilized by my college-age children. So this will conclude my discussion on this topic. Please feel free to infer whatever additional meaning you desire into my post. Peace to you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: You miss he point. How many free spaces do you deserve? Just say it so we know where you stand. The city is doing that so you do not have to deal with the meters. You live close to the waterfront and action. Visitors will park there. The city is helping you. Even though I bought in the 600 block, 7 years ago I made sure I still had plenty of parking OFF SITE. My wife thought I was nuts, there was no one here. But I saw it as it WOULD be. So what's the solution? Free resident parking permits for all of us? Or do we pay for them? I can't buy them because I do not live in your area. What do you want? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, colonialjohn johnmenc@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Just a failure of zoning planning and mostly the architect and the architectual review. You should HAVE to use indoor parking My 3 cents. What is the point of contributing to this group? I merely stated, NOT COMPLAINED, that
[AsburyPark] Re: Complaints
Werner, I'm only going here because you brought it up... There is a difference between constructive and destructive input. And too often you tend to fall on the wrong side of that line. We've traded comments on this board for many years, and I've always noted that your tremendous experience, that could provide so much value, is wasted largely because of your delivery and inability to see the value in other's ideas. I'll paraphrase - but you once told me something to the effect that others didn't deserve their opinion because they weren't as knowledgeable as you are. But we all live here, work here, love it here. And knowledge does not make right. It provides context for decisions. So do people's visions, desires and experiences that you often discount because they are not knowledge based as you would define it. So by discounting other's opinions and constantly complaining about virtually everything that others have wanted to do/have done, you've been discounted. Not on the merits - you really do know your stuff. Your complaining has been so constant, so myopic, that I think people have long-ago stopped judging the merits. So to your point - pointing out flaws is a positive thing. If it's done with wisdom, tact, grace and a sense of focusing on the big issues rather than literally everything you don't like. Otherwise it's just whining. And nobody listens to a whiner. Sorry if that seemed harsh. But you brought it up. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: When did complaints become a negative thing? I recall that many places had a Complaint Box.. Businesses routinely encourage feedback from customers... How do things improve if no one complains?... Process Quality Management (PQM) - It was discovered that fixing a problem in a product after it has been made is expensive and time consuming. Preventing a problem from getting into the product is much more desirable. Thinking through all the contingencies in the Process and assuring a Quality Product before it is released is good business sense. 'Complaints' are nothing more than notifications of flaws or problems and should be encouraged to get better quality output by changing the process. Applies to many things in life and planning... except, apparently, in Asbury Park. Here it's - 'Shut up and Drink the Cool-Aid or move out'. :-( Wb Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] NEW METROPOLITAN APTS and guess - PARKING
In today's APP: http://goo.gl/hWcgB the developer wants to have 1.5 parking spaces per unit.. In my experience, most people in NEW JERSEY - when it's 2 people, have TWO CARS. Or have a friend that has a car - or they have 2 cars - especially if they are shelling out $500,000 for a 2 bedroom. Asbury needs MORE sleek 2 bedroom apts priced upto $1500 in the downtown - not $2k. Functional Then go up from there. With parking. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Permits
Well that could be alleviated by having resident parking only in those areas. But you have no absolute right to park in front of your house. I pay almost $12k in taxes yest some renter of a 1bedroom apartment parks in front of my house in AP. Does it bother me, yes, but its just too damn bad. Crybabies. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Permits
All this parking banter makes me appreciate my corner lot with a 2car driveway that much more Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: dfsavgny dfsav...@yahoo.com Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 16:26:03 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Parking Permits Well that could be alleviated by having resident parking only in those areas. But you have no absolute right to park in front of your house. I pay almost $12k in taxes yest some renter of a 1bedroom apartment parks in front of my house in AP. Does it bother me, yes, but its just too damn bad. Crybabies. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking lines on 1st Ave. btwn Kingsley and Bergh
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fast4u sharon_b283@... wrote: WE DESERVE FREE PARKING! There is no such thing as free parking. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Complaints
All you ever done is complain. When complaining becomes habitual and almost in the face of everything, then its negative. Be part of the solution and not the problem. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@... wrote: When did complaints become a negative thing? I recall that many places had a Complaint Box.. Businesses routinely encourage feedback from customers... How do things improve if no one complains?... Process Quality Management (PQM) - It was discovered that fixing a problem in a product after it has been made is expensive and time consuming. Preventing a problem from getting into the product is much more desirable. Thinking through all the contingencies in the Process and assuring a Quality Product before it is released is good business sense. 'Complaints' are nothing more than notifications of flaws or problems and should be encouraged to get better quality output by changing the process. Applies to many things in life and planning... except, apparently, in Asbury Park. Here it's - 'Shut up and Drink the Cool-Aid or move out'. :-( Wb Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Taxes... in AP.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: ...$12k in taxes .. Imagine if you actually paid a fairer share of school taxes and didn't get a $10 million handout plus Good thing. I was showing a 2 bedroom at Wesley G the other night. S tempting. Dump my house, yard and flowers, dog. If the kids want to stay, they double up. $1900 and done. No taxes and cheper then buying the thing. 1/5 of the heat, electric etc... OR Go to Monroe Towers and get a rehabbed unit. Building should and will be neat. Someday. I know why my tenants never want to leave. They have a great deal. Don't worry about anything. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Parking Permits
I'd rather be a crybaby then a bully who calls people names such as you do any day. You basically ruined a civil conversation. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@... wrote: Well that could be alleviated by having resident parking only in those areas. But you have no absolute right to park in front of your house. I pay almost $12k in taxes yest some renter of a 1bedroom apartment parks in front of my house in AP. Does it bother me, yes, but its just too damn bad. Crybabies. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The mean streets of asbury...
To paint a pic... I am a 37 yr old woman (although I think I do not look a day over 25). I am 5'3, about ugghhh 120 lbs. Basically the least intimidating person. Ever. I just walked from the Stone Pony to my house on 6th. I do have to say I am very comfortable in urban environments- hell if I can land at the New Delhi, India airport on my own, surely I can handle Asbury Park. On my travels at 1130 pm, I passed a gay couple having an argument and a heavy-set woman walking her pug. What's my point? Yeah, the lines aren't straight, the parking sucks, but at least it IS getting better. I am not afraid. You should not be either and that IS progress. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
