[AsburyPark] Esperanza
Dan or anyone have any information on the Esperanza? ..just curious Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Esperanza
based on the fact that I was under contract and that they have not reached out to me I guess you can't be optimistic about them getting anything started anytime soonlooks like Dean got in over his head. hopefully the momentum MM will create on the BW will direct people's attention away from a stalled out contruction site... thank god I got my deposit back! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri nobepeymay@ wrote: Dan or anyone have any information on the Esperanza? ..just curious drove by yesterday and they were continuing to pack up Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Success and Faulure
Did they set a time line as to when this is going to get started? Is it realistic to think that the majority of this constuction will be completed by the summer? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last nights Planning Board hearing was a mixed bag. Of the 3 biggest issues: - Public Restrooms - Right-of-Way encroachments - Architechture The board focused on the restrooms. - The applicant reluctantly agreed to provide accomodation in the 'Pool Club'. They insist that the Green Acres Spaces should be used for toilets. Ramps and stairs on public easements came in second. - They refuse to confine stairs/ramps within their property lines. One board member rightfully observed that 'it would cut into their square footage'. So public sidewalks are being made smaller again. Architecture was hardly thought about. - The recommendations of the TRC were rediculous, one pavilion is going to gave a mix of awning styles. Imagine your home with wavey, round and straight awnings all at the same time. - I did have a success with the 3rd Ave Pav however it is considered 'temporary'. So the perminant building get bad architecture and the temporary one gets good architecture - go figure. The Pool Club gets a wall of bamboo and murals.. Regarding the 5th Ave Pav - Its a loss, in spite of my testimony that their proposal violates the Plan it is getting re-modeled. - The Historical Society was of no help - The President left the meeting before the issue ever came up. There was no answer to my question of 'Why are they not restoring it'. Public comment was weak. Parking lots are also to be created on vacant lots. - The biggest issue is lighting. High intensity Metal-Halide figtures pointed at 45 degrees. Blinding, intrusive, industrial park lighting. If all involved really wanted the best for Asbury Park I would not have to attend these meetings and comment on issues such as those. A good planner/developer/architect takes care of them BEFORE getting to the approval phase. Asbury Park is lost at sea Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Success and Faulure
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's less construction and more disneyesque type improvements. It will work. Marketing, Weather, Events and the Ocean. --- I realized after I hit the send key that contruction was probably not the right term. I believe you are correct...marketing, weather, fun and the ocean will make this succussful. Design elements / the type of facade they put on a building will be much less signicant although I can understand the concern. MM needs to get Live Nation / The House of Blues on boardthat would make a HUGE impact. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] high speed ferry
Does anyone know when the high speed ferry service will start from Long Branch to NYC? Also is this definitely going to happen? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: two incidents
as I said in my original post there were at least 8 police cars in front of a house on the corner of 5th..looked like a scene out of CSI Miami (with cold weather). Hopefully it wasn't a murder.maybe Tilleisdead read my post and is trying to stir something up on APP.com? I was driving around with my wife on Saturday and she suggested I ask about this on the board as she was curious as to what was going on there. I am sure if it was murder it would already be all over the press. Does anyone know if there a way to get a definitve answer to this so it can be put to rest? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted his comment not so much to comment on Tillie (although I agree with you except he said that the store is closed bc he is expanding), but to respond to the first post here stating that something was going on on 5th. I do not know that someone got murdered on 5th, but I saw that and I guess it is a possibility. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I wouldn't take him that seriously. His posts on the APP website pretty much negate any harm he could possibly do. He's posted so much nonsense that he did himself in with his own words. At some point I recall reading a post by him claiming that former customers from AP were visiting his new location in Allenhurst in hordes I noticed his shop in Allenhurst is now closed and for rent. Enough said... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri nobepeymay@ wrote: It is obvious that he is trying to scare people away from AP and that he has a vendetta. I can understand if he has issues with certain people in AP based on past experience, but he should address them specifically instead of trying to take down the whole city with his negativity. There are many people in AP that have invested their hard earned money here and what he is doing is damaging to AP. As a business owner you would think he would be sensitive to this and the potential harm he is causing business owners and residents here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz fancypaaantz@ wrote: Tillieisdead (the bike guy who use to be on the BW) a daily, negative post-er on app.com left the following post Anybody hear about the stabbing murder on 5th today yet? I have been checking app.com but I have not seen anything yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri nobepeymay@ wrote: I was driving around town today and saw: 1)lots of fire trucks and an ambulance at the eastern tip of Deal Lake...looked like they were trying to retrieve something or someone from the lake? Maybe just training? 2) about 8 - 10 cop cars outside of a house on 5th between bond and emory.they had the house taped off with yellow police tape and number evidence markers stuck in the ground? I am guessing a drug bust? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: two incidents
It is obvious that he is trying to scare people away from AP and that he has a vendetta. I can understand if he has issues with certain people in AP based on past experience, but he should address them specifically instead of trying to take down the whole city with his negativity. There are many people in AP that have invested their hard earned money here and what he is doing is damaging to AP. As a business owner you would think he would be sensitive to this and the potential harm he is causing business owners and residents here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, fancypaaantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tillieisdead (the bike guy who use to be on the BW) a daily, negative post-er on app.com left the following post Anybody hear about the stabbing murder on 5th today yet? I have been checking app.com but I have not seen anything yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri nobepeymay@ wrote: I was driving around town today and saw: 1)lots of fire trucks and an ambulance at the eastern tip of Deal Lake...looked like they were trying to retrieve something or someone from the lake? Maybe just training? 2) about 8 - 10 cop cars outside of a house on 5th between bond and emory.they had the house taped off with yellow police tape and number evidence markers stuck in the ground? I am guessing a drug bust? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Esperanza
this makes a ton of sensefor the reasons listed below as well as the fact that if that partially built site sits there without activity, it will lead many outsiders who are potential condo and / or home buyers skepticle of the viability of a successful redevelopment and detract from any good MM is doing on the boarkwalk. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since there seems to be no movement to resume the Esperanza project allow me to share with you my recommendation at a recent Council Meeting. Background - Everything done so far is the foundation for a very large highrise - foundations, design, etc. The lower levels that are just appearing are designed to be parking levels. Make a deal with Metro, or whoever steps into their shoes, to complete the parking levels for use and allow them to retain the residential right for the future. For MM, the retail, beach, ConHall, Casino, etc to succeed there has to be sufficient parking. Well, there it is a partially completed parking facility. A win all around, Parking in a new completed facility, the possibility of residential towers retained for the future. Or perhaps a Hotel (recall that hotel anenities were designed in already). Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] two incidents
I was driving around town today and saw: 1)lots of fire trucks and an ambulance at the eastern tip of Deal Lake...looked like they were trying to retrieve something or someone from the lake? Maybe just training? 2) about 8 - 10 cop cars outside of a house on 5th between bond and emory.they had the house taped off with yellow police tape and number evidence markers stuck in the ground? I am guessing a drug bust? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 2009 AP CIty Council Candidate Announcement!
In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mini golf maybe. Everyday on my drive home down 71, I see kids coming and going at the community centers in Belmar etc. Why don't we have one of those? It certainly would go a long way. There was a kid in my neighborhood who moved away recently. His idea of weekend fun was playing in the street near The Flamingo and throwing rocks at bungalows. Nice little kid. But, no place to play for him. No playgrounds, no other kids around. No BB court for after school action...nothing. I think this is a major issue for the city. That, and jobs...summer jobs etc. Too bad AP doesn't have it's own version of the Civilian Conservation Corps to give kids jobs around the city, working on beautification projects ect. Something like that could help build a kids pride in the place where they live. I helped build that etc... great points Jack after reading the MM press release it seems apparent that they must have derived many of their proposed objectives from this yahoo forum...let's hope they read your above post as well. keeping the kids busy is so important, I was in the arcade on the boardwalk this summer a few times and the local kids working there really seemed to take pride in their work and were also having fun while doing so. fyi to all.the check cleared. John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?
Not sure what to make of the Metro situation. If they were planning a return, they should be very vocal. The lack of comminication with those who placed a deposit makes me question. On the other hand, if they were to let the project go, they should be quick to return the funds and get this closed up asap so people are not worried about the other projects. They rode the wave of the press with the project start and they can expect the same wave if this gets ugly. Allan, they have already sent me a letter promising to return my deposit regardless of the outcome. It is fair to question how this work stoppage was mishandled with people under contract and in their lack of communication with the city. I believe Dean is trying every possible angle and exhausting all of his resources to get back started again, but I am not sure if that will be enough. Maybe he should make one tower a hotel? I would imagine that the start/stop/start nature of this project if it does start again will make it an uphill battle for Metro to sell, as well as the horrible environmnet surrounding the real estate market right now. They would need to make another huge push this Spring.hopefully with MM getting events on the boardwalk, a vibrant downtown and other positive activitiy on homes within town the city will carry itself through this difficult time. AP has location, location, location...I don't know enough about the political / asbury partners issue to comment in an informed manner but it is clear that they have mishandled this redevelopment project and I think the blame needs to be placed squarely on them. Let's pick up the pieces and move on, there is so much potential here..if Asbury Partners is in default they must go! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?
Its not Asbury Partners. The responsibility lays 'squarely' on the City Council. Any blame/praise/etc should be directed there. Werner You know better than me and I hope your rightit seems that it would be easier to change the council members and / or their thinking and approach to redevelopment than to replace the master developer?? John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?
John, I sent you a private email regarding Metro's promising return of deposits for any who want them. I am told the money is safe. I can't say much now, but the final word on the Esperanza may not have yet been written. All I will say that the way Metro has handled the halting of the work was wrong. They have been silent with the public and the city. The credit problems out there are real. That I know without Metro. So without giving up anything, maybe we are a little, and I mean a little, patient with Metro. Perhaps we can salvage something here. Thanks Dan. As we discussed, we actually received a fax late yesterday afternoon stating that they are willing to return the money.my attorney called me with the good news this morning. The letter also stated that they believed that this is a temporary work stoppage and something to the effect that they are not obligated to return the money at this pointbut that they will. All that is required is a simple signature on a release. I Metro could keep the money tied upin my opinion offering to return deposits at this point is a stand up move on their part. I hope that this project in back under way in its intended form very soon, but as every one is well aware the banks are being very selective on projects they are funding. As I have mentioned in the past I am new to the area.did someone mention that the rides were removed in AP? Ever since I stepped foot in this place I feel like a have been on the sickest roller coaster ever invented!! esperanza-less..maybe not? who the @#$% knows! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: any work on the 72 hours?
nada. I spoke to a guy today who was going to stop by city hall and see if he could find anything out. If I hear anything I will let you know. Is anyone aware of whether or not the city has a list of all of the 70 or so people under contract and their contact information? John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if any word has come from Metro. _ ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wastewater Treatment Plant
To Werner and group, What kind of impact does this plant have on the North Beach condo's? Do you believe the odor issue will ever be fully resolved? What is your overall opinion of North Beach and Paramount? John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: Back to AP, and I'm not trying to cry over spilled milk. I'm genuinely curious. Werner - Do you any input about have that crappy sewer building got approval? When? By whom? and is rook right about the potential for flipping. == Asbury Park's system is one of the earliest in America, very high technology for the time. The entire system is based upon gravity flow, water runs downhill to the lowest point. Since the Ocean presented a large 'waste basket' all pipes converged at Ocean and 8th Avenue for discharge into the sea. Subsequently, a treatment/filtering plant was built at that site (between Ocean Ave and the Boardwalk) to provide cleaner output. When that plant was deemed obsolete the City was faced with difficult choices. The existing Plant site was too small to accommodate modern standards, yet that is the place where all the wastewater ends up (remember gravity) Options included building Pumping Station and new pipe to redirect the flow west to the site of the current 7-11 on Main St. From there it could be pumped to Ocean Twp's Treatment Plant to the North. No thank you said Ocean Twp. With Redevelopment in the works it was decided to take all of 8th Ave between Kingsley and Ocean for a new plant site. It cost nothing since it was a public road. Also Ocean Ave was being closed entirely in the new redevelopment plan which added a few more feet to the site. A new ultra-modern plant was built with capacity to accommodate anticipated development. It is primarily underground and uses active digestion to clean the wastewater. A surface plant of that capacity would take several acres of land. As to the part of the building in the former Ocean Ave (a loading dock and sludge pit), yes it could have been relocated, however all the space around the Plant has since been designated for development making the issue moot. Note also that the building was designed to support parking on the roof. Work is currently underway to enhance odor control. Werner City Historian in Exile Porch Baumgartner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Time to rewrite the lyrics to...
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] jrcote: release me and let me go... Song by many... release my money, mr metro, and let me go nicely done! nothing from metro yet.hopefully this will not drag out too long for the sake of the people who believed in AP and Metro enough to put deposits down on the Esperanza or the citizens of AP who have to live with the eyesore of an inactive contruction site. This is a huge turn of events for the AP waterfront and I feel the final outcome is going to be highly dependent on how the banking, retail, and housing markets rebound..everyone seems to be sitting back and waiting. As they saytiming is everything, very bad timing for Metro. If this project is not a viable one for Metro, how could it be for others? I guess if it is forclosed on a new developer could come in and try to steal the property from the bank for pennies on the dollar? You would think whoever is financing Metro is going to take a major hit? Once the project is foreclosed on, if that is its fate, the new developer is most likely going to have a difficult time getting the same 70 contracts signed.70 out of 224 at this stage of contruction and in this market would seem to be a reasonable number. On a cost per square foot basis they were also getting a pretty high number, especially the units with an ocean view. I am personally still committed to the area and the main draw for me has been what has been done away from the waterfront with the arrival of entrepreneurs who have opened unique shops and great restaurants, as well as the people that have come in to the community and have bought or rented homes and have restored them to their original beauty. What is scary for me is if the economic slow down will create a siutation where things could actually move backwards in AP.this is one hesitation. As Dan S has pointed out, AP partners also plays a big role in the viability of the redevelopment and unfortunalty with them still in the picture this also makes me nervous. I wish they would just sell out at a reasonable profit and move on! We should start wearing t-shirts saying Stop being Pigs Partners or something like that. Them actually trying to be pigs is actually working against them as it is inhibiting the growth and activity in the area. What a shame. John Release Me Hey please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore To waste our lives would be a shame (my money...) And release me and let me love again (love = buy) Oh I have found a new love dear And I will always want her near Her lips are warm while yours are cold (north beach) And release me my darling let me go (my money, dean) Please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again Hey please release me And for I don't love you anymore To live, excuse me, would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So release me and let me love again Let me go, let me go (return my money, my money, my money..) Way to much time in pennsylvania... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Time to rewrite the lyrics to...
one other point to add which Werner often points out...the redevelopment plan needs to be redone and more balanced..it seems that the 3,000 condos was not realistic and is also not the best utilization of the available space. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], oakdorf oakdorf@ jrcote: release me and let me go... Song by many... release my money, mr metro, and let me go nicely done! nothing from metro yet.hopefully this will not drag out too long for the sake of the people who believed in AP and Metro enough to put deposits down on the Esperanza or the citizens of AP who have to live with the eyesore of an inactive contruction site. This is a huge turn of events for the AP waterfront and I feel the final outcome is going to be highly dependent on how the banking, retail, and housing markets rebound..everyone seems to be sitting back and waiting. As they saytiming is everything, very bad timing for Metro. If this project is not a viable one for Metro, how could it be for others? I guess if it is forclosed on a new developer could come in and try to steal the property from the bank for pennies on the dollar? You would think whoever is financing Metro is going to take a major hit? Once the project is foreclosed on, if that is its fate, the new developer is most likely going to have a difficult time getting the same 70 contracts signed.70 out of 224 at this stage of contruction and in this market would seem to be a reasonable number. On a cost per square foot basis they were also getting a pretty high number, especially the units with an ocean view. I am personally still committed to the area and the main draw for me has been what has been done away from the waterfront with the arrival of entrepreneurs who have opened unique shops and great restaurants, as well as the people that have come in to the community and have bought or rented homes and have restored them to their original beauty. What is scary for me is if the economic slow down will create a siutation where things could actually move backwards in AP.this is one hesitation. As Dan S has pointed out, AP partners also plays a big role in the viability of the redevelopment and unfortunalty with them still in the picture this also makes me nervous. I wish they would just sell out at a reasonable profit and move on! We should start wearing t-shirts saying Stop being Pigs Partners or something like that. Them actually trying to be pigs is actually working against them as it is inhibiting the growth and activity in the area. What a shame. John Release Me Hey please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore To waste our lives would be a shame (my money...) And release me and let me love again (love = buy) Oh I have found a new love dear And I will always want her near Her lips are warm while yours are cold (north beach) And release me my darling let me go (my money, dean) Please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again Hey please release me And for I don't love you anymore To live, excuse me, would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So release me and let me love again Let me go, let me go (return my money, my money, my money..) Way to much time in pennsylvania... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Time to rewrite the lyrics to...
Tommy, That is very interesting. My attorney made one of the conditions of the contract that I would not have the deposit money go into a bond, but rather stay in an attorney escrow account. He recommended we stay away from the bond because he had a client who was involved in a failed precontruction deal and his client had his money in bond..it was very difficult to get the deposit money back. Good work in getting your client out. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John, I had a client with a contract on an Esperanza unit. About 2 months ago I took her out of the contract and got her $65,000.00 deposit back. The reason I counseled her to get out of the contract was that Metro could not show me a deposit bond protecting the deposits. They tried to convince me they had one. They kept sending me a sample, and I kept telling them I wanted proof that one was purchased. They gave me several excuses, but no bond, so I took my client out and got her money back. Just curious: Did you or your attorney ever get a copy of a bond? Thanks- Tommy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri john@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@, oakdorf oakdorf@ jrcote: release me and let me go... Song by many... release my money, mr metro, and let me go nicely done! nothing from metro yet.hopefully this will not drag out too long for the sake of the people who believed in AP and Metro enough to put deposits down on the Esperanza or the citizens of AP who have to live with the eyesore of an inactive contruction site. This is a huge turn of events for the AP waterfront and I feel the final outcome is going to be highly dependent on how the banking, retail, and housing markets rebound..everyone seems to be sitting back and waiting. As they saytiming is everything, very bad timing for Metro. If this project is not a viable one for Metro, how could it be for others? I guess if it is forclosed on a new developer could come in and try to steal the property from the bank for pennies on the dollar? You would think whoever is financing Metro is going to take a major hit? Once the project is foreclosed on, if that is its fate, the new developer is most likely going to have a difficult time getting the same 70 contracts signed.70 out of 224 at this stage of contruction and in this market would seem to be a reasonable number. On a cost per square foot basis they were also getting a pretty high number, especially the units with an ocean view. I am personally still committed to the area and the main draw for me has been what has been done away from the waterfront with the arrival of entrepreneurs who have opened unique shops and great restaurants, as well as the people that have come in to the community and have bought or rented homes and have restored them to their original beauty. What is scary for me is if the economic slow down will create a siutation where things could actually move backwards in AP.this is one hesitation. As Dan S has pointed out, AP partners also plays a big role in the viability of the redevelopment and unfortunalty with them still in the picture this also makes me nervous. I wish they would just sell out at a reasonable profit and move on! We should start wearing t-shirts saying Stop being Pigs Partners or something like that. Them actually trying to be pigs is actually working against them as it is inhibiting the growth and activity in the area. What a shame. John Release Me Hey please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore To waste our lives would be a shame (my money...) And release me and let me love again (love = buy) Oh I have found a new love dear And I will always want her near Her lips are warm while yours are cold (north beach) And release me my darling let me go (my money, dean) Please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So please release me, let me go And for I don't love you anymore And to live our lives would be a shame And so release me and let me love again Hey please release me And for I don't love you anymore To live, excuse me, would be a shame And so release me and let me love again So release me and let me love again Let me go, let me go (return my money, my money, my money..) Way to much time in pennsylvania... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group
[AsburyPark] Re: Time to rewrite the lyrics to...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what it would cost to place billboards next to their other properties warning prospective owners they could lost their deposits and leaving them up until Metro does something about this situation? That would certainly be a bit more incentive to act... No doubt it would! You would have to think that people may be hesitant already.word travels fast and this was a very high profile project. I believe his other bigger projects such as Gull's Cove is near completion with a very high percentage soldnot sure about Trump building in JC or Metro Stop in Hoboken. If he does the right thing that may help salvage his reputation. I lived in Hoboken for 7 years from 92 - 99 and Metro put up the best quality construction in town. Dean not notifying his clients under contract of the work stoppage didn't sit well with me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AP is a City - lots of brillant people, well off, invesrots, hucksters and bucksters, artists, risk takers, gamblers and ordinary people. All drawn to AP for one reason or another. This is what is appealing to me about AP.I look forward to seeing you, Dan, Mario and others around next summer. John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was gabrielle, the poor little rich girl faux hipster failed artist who would rather have shit on the bw. The rest of us welcome as many millioniares as we can get here. You belong here because you want to be here. We'll have drinks this summer. thanks for clearing this up.first round is on me! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: one more lastly: Fluff - Reality
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's continue bashing until John gets back his $$$ (if he wants): I am not exactly sure how to replyI find quite a bit of this funny, especially the name contest, on the other hand I feel very shaken and also saddened by the situation. Of course I would like my money back, but I would like even more to have this project seen to completion.seems like a long shotyou never know It was also upsetting to see the generalizations that I read this morning on a post about the people that would be attraced to this building. I really consider myself a very down to earth and caring person, to be stereotyped as someone that could give a shit about a community because of that fact that I can afford a luxury condo is disturbing. Buying a lifestyleyes I am not afraid to admitt that I would like a pool and a game room to entertain my friends as well as be steps away from a beautiful beachhopefully with no human shit left on it. I would like to do my tequilla shot either pool side or at the beach bar...that is a lifestyle I find very appealing. I am also being realistic, if this does't come through we are in a buyers market for at least the next 6 months so I can look for something elsehopefully with my deposit returned and in my pocket! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quotationspages.com has a great collection, including: I read the quotes I posted in a book called the 4 hour work week by timothy ferriss, the book is loaded with great quotes.I highly reccomend it. I have not cut my work week to 4 hours yet, but it has given me some ideas on how I can decrease my work time which I have already implemented. John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Esperanza / AP front page of today's Star Ledger
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[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
If anyone is interested, I can show you completed units in Diamond Beach in Long branch. 34 of 96 sold. From $400,000 to $2m. Gym, Pool, all high end built by a real buildler and built real nice. Being sold at a discount Oak Depending on how this turns out I may ask you to show me stuff in AP. As much as like the idea of locking my door and not worrying about anything with a condo, I feel I would be bored in Long Branch.almost like living at Boardwalk Disney. I am not fond of either of the 2 other condo projects in AP either.although I may be willing to look at North Beach. Maybe a house in AP or if some loft type space becomes available on Cookman or in that area? I have to wait for the dust to clear and regroup! I am still in shock and also very dissapointed, my family and I were really looking forward to moving into the Esperanza this summer.I am not looking forward to breaking the news to my 6 year old! I would also like to thank those on the board who have reached out to me and those I have reached out tothanks for being so helpful and supportive over the past 6 months. What a Fuc**ng roller coaster ride!! John ps: I have to say that my experiece with Linda in the Esperanza sales office was very positive. She mentioned to me that she was under contract for a 1 bedroom or studio herself. If anyone knows how to reach her please e-mail me offline. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -but it's buyer beware - for $5.00 or $50m. If anyone is interested, I can show you completed units in Diamond Beach in Long branch. 34 of 96 sold. From $400,000 to $2m. Gym, Pool, all high end built by a real buildler and built real nice. Being sold at a discount Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
We sent out a letter today to themwaiting for their reply. I obviously did not like that comment either! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- I was also curious how protected you are in your contract? I guess what pissed me off was the we'll see what happens to those with monies in escrow. They better have the chutzpah to offer it all back if you want instead of making you sweat. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
ps...I was in Wegman's today and was curious who packs Wegman's Brand tomato sauce? We pack their pasta sauce as well as their salsa. We also pack their jammin' and basting oil.soon we will be packing their cooking wine, Holland House is coming off the shelf in favor of a higher quality wegman's brand product. By the way, I liked your suggestion of Dan for mayortoo bad he didn't bite! John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM is the most important part of this
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If any you have never failed, you haven't experienced anything. Failuer is the best experience, especially in business. It makes you stop and listen to someone other then yourself. I read two interesting quotes the other day which relate to your comments: an expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field - Niels Bohr, Danish physicist and Nobel Prize Winner The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool - Richard Feyman Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Haulin Oats
I was at the show as well, it was great especially the second half. Mike Walker from MM told me that Shiver is doing more business the last several weeks than the stone pony is.they are doing a great job of drawing people to the area. I wonder if Mike is aware of some of the discussions on the board such as Dan's ice skating rink idea? I think he would be the guy to speak to regarding any possible suggestions or ideas. My wife and I stayed at the berkley and it was jammed.they had two big groups in thereone was a youth group in which had 95 rooms booked with 4 kids per room and very little adult supervision! Luckily we were on a quite floor away from the chaos. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were lucky to have seats in the orchestra pitt. It was terrific! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Haulin Oats
it was very nice, they have created a funky and bold boutique hotel feel through out the lobby.this theme is carried out through the hotel. The beds are comfortable...a little on the firm side...everything in the rooms in brand new from the carpeting, wall paper, bathroom fixtures, furniture, flat screen TV's etc. Last time the Berkely subject came up on the board I know there were many that felt the look of the inside was not appropriate for the Berkely. The service was friendly and profesional however you can see that they are still working out some bugsan example is that the machine that programs the keys was down and we had to be let into our room by one of the employees, when we checked out the issue had been resolved. The hotel is still missing an operater for the bar and restaurantI am not sure they have a liquor license? It is well worth the $125.00 room charge they are charging this time of yearonce it gets better established I am sure they will be able to comand a much higher room rates as there are so few hotel options in the area. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How was the Berkely? Have they done a nice job? I haven't been inside or stayed there. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri john@ wrote: I was at the show as well, it was great especially the second half. Mike Walker from MM told me that Shiver is doing more business the last several weeks than the stone pony is.they are doing a great job of drawing people to the area. I wonder if Mike is aware of some of the discussions on the board such as Dan's ice skating rink idea? I think he would be the guy to speak to regarding any possible suggestions or ideas. My wife and I stayed at the berkley and it was jammed.they had two big groups in thereone was a youth group in which had 95 rooms booked with 4 kids per room and very little adult supervision! Luckily we were on a quite floor away from the chaos. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, theshortsalepro njdave@ wrote: We were lucky to have seats in the orchestra pitt. It was terrific! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Haulin Oats
Scope costs and sponsors. Of course I'd talk to mm but I don't think you would need them Keep us posted Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re:Donation Address Correction
If anyone wants to oraganize a spaghetti / pasta dinner fund raiser I can donate the pasta sauce Francesco Rinaldi is our brand and we do donate quite a bit of sauce for fund raisers. Probably will not generate 22K but could help. Most of the money raised at these dinners is from auctions / 50/50 raffle, etc. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise denisemchd@ wrote: Correct address for pop warner donations P.O. Box 462 Neptune, NJ 07753 Dep Mayor Bruno informed me that checks can be made out to Asbury Park Pop Warner c/o Leesha Floyd 1 Municipal Plaza Asbury Park NJ 07712 I am told that they need $22,000 to fund the entire trip. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: E Street's Van Zandt has Drawn Up a High School Music Curriculum
house of blues would mean live nation in town..that would be HUGE! In July 2006 Live Nation announced it has entered into a definitive merger agreement to acquire HOB Entertainment, Inc., the operator of the House of Blues chain of music halls and restaurants. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_Channel_Entertainment --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: something along the lines of a House of Blues. You must have ESP. I hear rumors Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Russian Baths or something like at Condo Gyms?
everything sounds good except for the branch beatingsouch! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My husband and I were talking about the Russian Baths on 10th st in NYC and wondered if the gyms at the Esperanza or some other condo would have anything comparable. The Russian Baths have a dry sauna, wet sauna, cold pool, wet steam room (which sometimes uses eucalyptus and mint oils, sun deck, juice and soup concession, massage cabinets where they beat you with branches, product concession for masks, oils, sea salts, etc. and men's and women's locker room and showers. They have co-ed night, men only nights, women only nights, etc. I don't suppose there are any plans for anything like? After a couple of margaritas we decided it was a million dollar idea. Between the Russian community, the straight community and the Gay and Lesbian community you'd have a substantial client base. We would need a lot of investors. Hey, can we put it on Main St where the BBQ is? I'd rather smell eucalyptus. Ha ha Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: What $2.5M buys
cut and paste link below into your browser. Billionaire Tom Golisano built this 18,000 plus square foot house in a Rochester, NY suburb for his daughter and she never moved in. I have heard they have 5 plus million into it. I think they will have to settle for around.. 2.5 million http://homesteadnet.com/advancedsearchresults.asp? mycheck=truearea=VICTORminyearbuilt=0maxyearbuilt=2007excludeEmptyY earBuilt=showNewBuildsOnly=ptype=RESpg=2sortby=3numofresults=5min price=100maxprice=5000position=1mode=vie= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Golisano http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Golisano John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...in Ocean Grove... http://tinyurl.com/2wqn9t Compare that to an Esperanza penthouse. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
luckily for you a brought back a few jars. Let me know your address and I can UPS you a few jars or if you are around town we can meet up later, I will be done with my meeting around 4 PM. E-mail me offline if you would like. Dannie Wegman himself is very excited about this projecthe presented us with an innovation award for developing this product, only the third time they have given out this award in their history! John ra ra cheerleader --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri john@ wrote: Great posts the last 2 days! Not sure if I like the planters as I have not seen them. I will be in AP tommorrow for a meeting and will take a look. I am up in Rochester with the Wegman's guys.we just starting packing a new organic strawberry and raspberry jam for them under the wegman (Jammin) label...65% fruit and significantly less calories of the typical jams in the market loaded with sugar / corn syrup, extenders, etc. === Mm Raspberry ??? Put me down for some !!! Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Jam
Sharon, the fund raiser comment triggered the Newman connection. we have plenty of capacity in out plant to accommodate additional Jam productionthe trick is getting it to market. there are a few ways we get product to market 1)you can develop a brand and go directly to retailers and pay slotting feesvery expensive. 2)private label: you can pack for supermarkets with their store brand, for instance packing a Kirkland Signature item for Costco or packing Jammin for Wegman's. 3)contract packing: you can contract pack for other brands such as a Classico, Tostidos, Barilla, Newman's Own, etc. The most difficult way to go to market is by developing a brand as it very costly and there is a risk factor if the brand does not succeed. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My kitchen is available! A great fund raiser and awareness builder! Quick, before Asbury Partners get wind of it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 11/8/2007 10:58:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dfsavgny@ writes: John, An idea - develop Asbury Park Jam The product line could be endless. Here's the hook - organic and made, not manufactured, by a diverse workforce using a low- carbon footprint Rainbow label of course. Greetings from Asbury Park Salt Water Taffy Jam Too long for a label? grin ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
John, An idea - develop Asbury Park Jam The product line could be endless. Here's the hook - organic and made, not manufactured, by a diverse workforce using a low-carbon footprint Rainbow label of course. Dan, I like it...you can play on the word Jam also and tie it into the AP music heritige. Maybe there is a way we could get Bruce involved and the profits could be donated to local charities? We pack Newman's Own Salsa and Pasta Sauce and 100% of the profits go to charity. Very interesting John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
thanks werner...it was nice to meet you today. hope you are enjoying the jam. if not I know you will be bruttaly honest and tell me it sucks! I stopped by Wegman's on route 35 on my way home and they have Jammin in stockdon't buy to much, the organic berries are in tight supply. John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John C. LiDestri john@ wrote: luckily for you a brought back a few jars. Let me know your address and I can UPS you a few jars or if you are around town we can meet up later, I will be done with my meeting around 4 PM. E-mail me offline if you would like. Dannie Wegman himself is very excited about this projecthe presented us with an innovation award for developing this product, only the third time they have given out this award in their history! John ra ra cheerleader = = Thanks I look forward to being a taste tester. All the best luck with this ! You're a good sport. ;-) Werner City Historian in Exile Porch Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Jam
Mario, Are you suggesting a Jam with salt water taffy in it? Just about anything is possible from a manufacturing standpoint... John --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/8/2007 10:58:03 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, An idea - develop Asbury Park Jam The product line could be endless. Here's the hook - organic and made, not manufactured, by a diverse workforce using a low-carbon footprint Rainbow label of course. Greetings from Asbury Park Salt Water Taffy Jam Too long for a label? grin ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
Great posts the last 2 days! Not sure if I like the planters as I have not seen them. I will be in AP tommorrow for a meeting and will take a look. I am up in Rochester with the Wegman's guys.we just starting packing a new organic strawberry and raspberry jam for them under the wegman (Jammin) label...65% fruit and significantly less calories of the typical jams in the market loaded with sugar / corn syrup, extenders, etc. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Typical uninformed, Ra-Ra cheerleader attitude. Details are the difference between a great job and just 'doing something'. Werner Werner! How are you accusing this person of being a cheerleader?? They said MM has the money to make things look nice, and that they are doing it. They like the planters, thats a crime??? It's not their fault you don't. Nothing i've read has anything to do with the attitude your trying to spin on this. Anything is better then nothing No one is claiming that from what i've read so far.. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Retire Rich: Why the Fed's rate cut should scare you
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[AsburyPark] Breeder's Cup Extravaganza
Did anyone attend this event at Convention Hall? Was it a good event? Well attended? I think the developers where hoping some big money was coming in and would buy stuff! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
