[AsburyPark] Re: What about WIFI on our boardwalk and beach?
I tried to get traction with this idea twice before. Once about one and a half years ago throgh the UEZ coordinator. My idea then was to coordinate with the Board of Education, the UEZ, the Chamber of Commerce, and Asbury Partners to fund a WiFI for the City as a whole. One, it would give school kids a free link to the outside world, and two, it would have provided a great publicity link to both the downtown and the boardwalk areas. Nothing was done. Lastly, I talked to Gary Motolla about one year ago about this idea, and he did not show any interest indicating problems with the technology. Bob --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cwpvt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we are just talking about maybe two blocks wide, by the length of the boardwalk (or maybe just from the Casion to CH), would Comcast, Cablevision or Verizon do this for the publicity, let them put up some signs saying Free WiFi Provided by They could also do a better job of maintaining it, since the city can't keep it's website or webcam going. Now, does anyone know someone at any of those companies? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Jack you are correct - this would be a good draw. I wouldn't mind surfing the net while getting a tan. We go to the beach for sometimes 12 hours straight. I get bored of swimming and would certainly go to the net if I could. I didn't understand the comment about money. The whole idea of a WiFi hotspot is that its free. It never makes money. It's a cheap loss leader to bring people in. It's a good idea, Jack. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Esperanza
allow me to share with you my recommendation at a recent Council Meeting. Background - Everything done so far is the foundation for a very large highrise - foundations, design, etc. The lower levels that are just appearing are designed to be parking levels. Make a deal with Metro, or whoever steps into their shoes, to complete the parking levels for use and allow them to retain the residential right for the future. We are considering that. Be patient. Dan: Are you saying that there is a plan to consider completing the parking garage for use as a public commercial parking facility, while possibly selling the air rights for residential development in the future. What happens to the parking requirements if 224 units are built on top? Where will those 448 spaces be located? Will the commercial spaces be reverted to the residential development or will 448 additional residential spaces be placed on higher levels with the height of the building being raised while still keeping the public commercial spaces? Bob Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Marketing ??
We voted on her contract but didn't vote on her proposals attached to the contract about the 110th anniversary, Bruno said Wednesday. The questions are: What did the council vote on? Was the vote based on a presentation or did they read the contract? If a presentation, who made the presentation? Was the percentage of collected monies included in the presentation or the contract? If not, how is it legal for that percenrage to be collected? What else was in the proposals that weren't included in thge vote? Is there not other managers or professionals who should have reviewed this contract? CFO? City Manager? Attorneys? before it got to the Council? Bob Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Money to Aid Crime Fight in Asbury Park, Long Branch, and Neptune
$1M to fight crime in 2 counties Wednesday, September 12, 2007 BY WILLIAM KLEINKNECHT Star-Ledger Staff The Justice Department has awarded $1 million in grants to local law enforcement agencies in Essex and Monmouth counties to combat violent crime. The grants, which were announced yesterday by U.S. Sens. Frank Lautenberg and Robert Menendez, are aimed at helping police in 10 towns in Essex and three in Monmouth purchase equipment and beef up street patrols. New Jersey's finest will have the funds they need to acquire new protective gear, update communications systems and increase community police patrols, Lautenberg said in a statement. These resources will help law enforcement remove drugs from our streets and make high-crime areas safer. The grants are earmarked under the Edward Byrne Memorial State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance Grant Program, designed to help reduce the incidence of violent crime. It is named after a New York City police officer executed by a Queens drug dealer in 1988. Among the uses of the grant money will be computers for police in Newark and East Orange, in-car and on-motorcycle video systems for Bloomfield, a new prisoner-transport vehicle in Irvington, increased youth gang investigations in Maplewood and stepped-up foot patrols in Maplewood, Orange and South Orange. In addition, West Orange will buy a new evidence storage locker system, Essex County will improve its records management system, and Asbury Park, Long Branch and Neptune will pool funds to buy radios and other communications equipment. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
I think that this is a great idea and would be a great thing for the City. I went to see Tom Gilmore, UEZ, over two years ago regarding this issue as I suggested that the UEZ get Asbury Partners, the Chamber of Commerce/Merchants Guild, and the Board of Education together to champion, fund, get grants, and support this idea for a number of reasons. It would be a selling point for the waterfront area; it would be a selling point for the merchants, and it would afford the City school students the opportunity to get on the net without paying a monthly fee. I don't believe it went anywhere at that time. I would be interested in supporting the initiation of this concept again as I believe that the above reasons are still valid. Bob --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, John McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ocean City is a town that prides itself on tradition and old- fashioned charm. But that doesn't mean it can't keep up with the latest technology. The city is taking a lead among shore resorts, planning to have a Wi-Fi network up and running by January. That means the entire town would be a hot spot. Computer and cell phone users would have access to the Internet from anywhere. That puts the resort in the company of major cities like Seattle and Philadelphia, where Internet access is one more draw for potential residents and visitors. http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/opinion/editorials/story/7493520p- 7389240c.html Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Wi-Fi
This WiFi should not require a credit card. It should be FREE for all within the City limits. This will make it unique and be a service for the community. All the previously referenced participants: merchants; Asbury Partners/Madison Marquette - Madison_Asbury Retail LLC, UEZ, and the Board of Education should pay for the complete operation of the WiFi. Bob Asbury Park has been a Hot Spot for several years. I installed the WiFi system while working for Joe D'Andrea at West21. You can log in with a credit card virtually anywhere in proxility to the Downtown or BCH. Let me know how it works (or doesn't) as I'm still associated with the company that owns the network. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Market ?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, i dont know if my term farmers market is the correct one. i just know i overheard the MM speaking talking about a produce marker, and cheese market. lets call it a market. Maybe it will be designed to be similar to the Quincy Market located in Boston. Background: Its mainly food-stalls, fast-food, and regular restaurants. It is a popular and busy lunchtime spot for downtown workers. In the center, surrounding the dome, is a two-story seating area. Street vending space is available against the outside walls of the building, especially on the south side, under a glass enclosure. Most stalls in this space sell trinkets, gifts, and other curiosities. A few restaurants also occupy fully enclosed spaces at the ends of this enclosure. More conventional retail space is provided on the second floor and in the basement level. The Comedy Connection, one of Boston's two largest comedy clubs, currently occupies one of the second-floor spaces, and bars and restaurants occupy space on the basement levels. Flanking the main building in the marketplace are two equally long buildings (North Market and South Market) that expand the market space for more restaurants, specialty shops, and office spaces. Two further concave market buildings enclose a circular plaza at the market's west end. The open spaces at both the east and west ends of the marketplace are a common venue for various street performers, as well as street vendors. Most daytime visits to Quincy Market will encounter a large circular crowd of people standing around a juggler or other unique act Bob Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Contractor's Withholding Tax
I received this message below from a concerned member of a home owners group. What do you think about being required to be a state collections agent for withholding tax of contractors and subcontractors who work on your peoperty?? It is important that you send an email to Governor Corzine asking him to veto S-648 (Sweeney). Legislation (S-648) waiting for Governor Corzine's signature makes property owners liable for withholding tax for all contractors and subcontractors on a construction project, even where there is no privity between the owner and the subcontractor, or even any knowledge that a subcontractor is working on the construction project. To send your email, add your signature to the model letter on the BLSJ Legislative Alert page: http://capwiz.com/blsj/issues/alert/? alertid=8938816type=SWshow_alert=1 A copy of the pending legislation and additional information is available on NJBA.org. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] SUNDAY STAR_LEDGER
The developer who built it helps to blow it up Hardly a masterpiece, unfinished Asbury Park oceanfront complex is imploded at the hands of its creator Sunday, April 30, 2006 BY MARYANN SPOTO Star-Ledger Staff What Henry Vaccaro built, in the end he destroyed. The unfinished building long reviled as a gargantuan monument to Asbury Park's failed attempt at redevelopment went down in a heap early yesterday, and at the demolition controls was the man who helped construct it 20 years ago. On his feet again after declaring bankruptcy more than a decade ago, Vaccaro, now owns the demolition company that has been slowly pulling the structure apart. He let his grandson push the button to start the detonation at 7:01 a.m. There was a little apprehension (yesterday) morning to press the button, Vaccaro said after the implosion. Because it's a lot of memories. I was a partner with Carabetta when we built it. Joseph Carabetta was a Connecticut developer with whom Vaccaro partnered in the 1980s to try to transform Asbury Park's dilapidated oceanfront into a residential resort. But when banks holding Carabetta's funding failed and he lost his financing, the project came to a screeching halt. Vaccaro started the C-8 Building, which was supposed to be a 16-story oceanfront condominium complex, in 1986, but three years later it stopped at only a shell of 12 floors and has stood neglected, looming over the Monmouth County oceanfront, ever since. Vaccaro said he wished the C-8 Building, named for its location on redevelopment plans, could have been salvaged. He said he tried twice to bring in new investors but couldn't get the deals to work. When that site, along with dozens of other properties, was released from the bankruptcy case in 2001, a new master developer bought the rights and sold it to a new developer. I hoped it didn't have to come down, but since it did, I'm glad I was the one bringing it down, he said. Vaccaro, who still has his office in Asbury Park, has the demolition contract. Two years ago, he chopped off part of the building that jutted 60 feet into Ocean Avenue, and three months ago he removed the adjacent skeleton of a parking deck. Yesterday, he finished the job by contracting the implosion work to Controlled Demolition Inc., the same Baltimore firm that took down the bombed-out Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City and the Traymore Hotel in Atlantic City. Vaccaro had the honors of pushing the button, which he turned over to his 13-year-old grandson, Alex Bahary. He told me, 'I know you built it. I didn't like the building, (so) I'm blowing it up,' Vaccaro said outside the demolition site yesterday. Metro Homes Inc. of Hoboken, which plans to put a 224-unit luxury condominium complex on the site, paid about $200,000 for the implosion, Dean Geibel, Metro's managing partner, said. At 7 a.m., the designated detonation time, things started rolling. In a separate building off-site, Vaccaro and demolition crews waited for the all-clear call, the cue for detonating 80 pounds of plastic explosives placed along the building's steel columns earlier in the week. On the balcony of the Paramount Theatre two blocks north of the demolition site, Councilman John Loffredo, long a proponent of razing the building, waited for his cue. After the countdown chanted by the crowd with him, he pushed down on a ceremonial plunger. Back at the building with the demolition crews, Vaccaro let his grandson push the button that actually activated the charges on the explosives. People in the room with Vaccaro noticed tears in his eyes as the building crumbled in a cloud of brown dust. By 7:01 a.m., nine successive blasts sounded, and then after a brief pause, another nine more powerful explosions erupted. The building's west side caved first, dragging down the east side. It was over in 14 seconds. The crowd, estimated at 2,000, burst into cheers and whistles. When dust cleared, some shouted, It's still standing, because two sections of the 12-story building were still some four stories high, but crews were expected to take down what remained. Oh my God. It was very emotional for me -- the ultimate of what we've worked for, Loffredo said It's a wonderful thing. It signals so much for us. A lot of people when we first got into office said this wouldn't happen. Of the old buildings, like Palace Amusements, that have been razed in recent years to make way for luxury condominiums and townhouses, none had been more universally ushered out of existence than the massive structure between Third and Fourth avenues. No one will miss it, said Eileen Chapman, a city resident who said she has grown to resent the impression it creates. People would come in and see that building and think nothing changed. Now we have an opportunity to present Asbury Park as forward moving. People chose their own way to bid farewell. Some
[AsburyPark] Re: Hands Off My Home!
Recived the following article regarding eminent domain. Punish Souter for Property Theft Decision -- Click Below to help see that Justice Is Served on Property Rights: http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7771381type=CU ALERT: Are you as OUTRAGED as I am about the Supreme Court's recent decision, allowing city governments to take land from one private owner and give it to another? In Kelo vs. City of New London, five Justices (led by David Souter) ruled that eminent domain allows any local government to TAKE anyone's private property if the government will generate greater tax revenue -- or any other economic benefits -- when the land is developed by the new owner. If you AREN'T outraged, then you're not paying attention! These black-robed dictators have now virtually destroyed individual property rights in the United States. Ignoring the U.S. Constitution AGAIN, the Supreme Court ruled 5-4 that local governments have the right to seize private property to make way for private commercial development such as shopping malls. You read that right. It doesn't matter if your family has lived in your home since you were 11 years old -- if the local government decides that they could make more tax dollars by putting in a mall, too bad for you and your family. Even Justice Sandra Day O'Connor said in her dissent to the ruling, Nothing is to prevent the State from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping mall, or any farm with a factory. But, the Supreme Court has spoken, so that's the end of it, right? Nothing can be done to expose this ruling for the TRAVESTY it really is, right? WRONG. As a matter of fact, there IS something that can be done -- we can take this ruling to its logical conclusion, and show Justice Souter and his ilk who are sitting there in their ivory towers, far removed from us common folk, just what their legal theories are doing to US. So, in keeping with what has now been deemed constitutional, a private developer has contacted the local government in Supreme Court Justice David Souter's hometown in New Hampshire, asking that the property of the judge be seized to make room for a new hotel, to be named The Lost Liberty Hotel. According to WorldNetDaily.com, Logan Darrow Clements faxed a request to the town of Weare, N.H., seeking to start the application process to build a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road, the present location of Souter's home. Wrote Clements: Although this property is owned by an individual, David H. Souter, a recent Supreme Court decision, Kelo v. City of New London, clears the way for this land to be taken by the government of Weare through eminent domain and given to my LLC for the purposes of building a hotel. The justification for such an eminent domain action is that our hotel will better serve the public interest as it will bring in economic development and higher tax revenue to Weare. Ah, poetic justice is served. And YOU can help serve it to Justice Souter. TAKE ACTION: This is not a prank. The town of Weare has five people on the Board of Selectmen. If three of them vote to use the power of eminent domain to take this land from Mr. Souter, Mr. Clements can begin his hotel development -- and we can begin the process of *reversing* this travesty of justice. He already plans to raise investment capital from wealthy pro-liberty investors and draw up architectural plans. These plans would then be used to raise additional capital for the project. FINALLY, these tyrants in black can face the music and actually EXPERIENCE what they're putting the rest of us through! Click below now to send a message to all five members of the town of Weare's Board of Selectmen at once, asking them to see that Justice Is Served by implementing Souter's decision and putting a hotel on HIS property: http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=7771381type=CU NOTE: Yes, like Clements, we're aware of the apparent conflict of someone who is strongly opposed to the Kelo decision using it to purposely oust an American from his property. I realize there is a contradiction, but we're only going to use it against people who advocated the Kelo decision, Clements told WorldNet Daily. Therefore, it's a case of retaliation, not initiation. Be sure to send this Alert to EVERYONE you know who wants to help see that Justice Is Served in this outrageous decision to destroy private property rights! Thank you! Sincerely, William Greene, President RightMarch.com The work of RightMarch.com is funded entirely by voluntary contributions. Help us spread the word with a donation today! https://secure.responseenterprises.com/rightmarch/?a=7 Put a Write-to-Congress web sticker on YOUR website: http://capwiz.com/sicminc/dbq/stickers/?command=fedstickers Put an Action Alerts web
[AsburyPark] Re: Sunday bike race
Considering the last minute charge (three days before the event), I think the turn out was good. Would it have been better as originally planned at the Convention Hall area - No! This event got off to a bad start with a last minute location change, but it was still great. Parking downtown is always going to be a problem in Asbury until the City and the City Manager finalizes the parking garage with Stackman, whenever that will be. Events like this should be held regularly to draw people to the City. With the shops open, more can see what Asbury has to offer. Considering Joe's comments: For your information Events that are not retail oriented have no place in the retail corridor of the city and Perhaps your non-retail event being held in the retail corridor, on what would otherwise be a busy shopping day, will be the exception., I take except to both comments. Hopefully these are only your opinions and they are not the opinions of the many who attended and of those who could see a future with this event. A number of merchants indicated that they would support this race being held AGAIN in the downtown area, but not on Sunday morning. Even the race coordinators and participants enjoyed the race event, and the location per their comments. Perhaps, it could be on Saturday morning in conjunction with the support of the Merchants Guild, the Chamber, and hopefully the City. This race should continue downtown and the merchants and supports should grow the event with advertising and coordination. Thanks to the organizers and let's do it again. Bob --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:34 PM -0700 6/17/05, Kerri Martin wrote: Hi Joe- the start/finish will be on Cookman and Emory. Basically, the road closures are going to be Cookman and Spring Wood Drive between Bond and Grand. I'm not sure who exactly at City Hall suggested the move to Cookman Ave after it was decided that the roads near Convention Hall were unsuitable. But I will be sure to include your name on the long list of people who would like to thank him/her for bringing such a great community event to the town of Asbury Park. Looking forward to seeing hundreds of people out on the streets of AP Sunday morning supporting the businesses(that morning or in the future) and taking part in the rejuvenation of AP. Kerri... I posed a question not an indictment. There was no need for your snarky I'll be sure to add you to the list... comment. I'm assuming you mean Lake Avenue when you say Spring Wood Drive. For your information Events that are not retail oriented have no place in the retail corridor of the city. In the past when events that are not retail oriented are held in the retail corridor, they do nothing to help the retail businesses that are severely affected by the street closures. Particularly when events such as the one you are organizing virtually close down the entire downtown. Even when retailers plan an event that closes down streets, they understand that you can only close down a block or two of a single street. (i.e. Taste of Asbury, Guinness Oyster Fest, etc) Never has there been an event downtown that I can remember that simultaneously closes down entire lengths of three or four major downtown streets. Perhaps your non-retail event being held in the retail corridor, on what would otherwise be a busy shopping day, will be the exception. Good luck. Since you are cutting off all Cookman Avenue parking as well as the Municipal and on-street parking on Lake Avenue, has your event arranged for any special parking places for the hundreds of people you are expecting? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A quick defense of Jerry
Where an individual votes is and should not be the issue. Everyone connected to the City (renters, property owners, people who work here) can and should contribute without the issue of voter registration. Although there are many that are registered who don't participate, either in voting, or in being an active participant in the political process, there are many that add positively to the political process and the decisions made within the City. For those we are thankful for we need more participation. It may be that some commentators do not agree with Gerry or his friends, but that could be said about all of us. AND that my friends is the problem with Asbury Park. If you are active and/or if you have comments or you respond to an issue, and others don't like your opinion, then they automatically make a Personal Attack upon you the person on some basis, not your comments, or the validity of your comments. I agree with Jim Keady and Dan. All comments are welcomed and we hope that all participation would make a better City. We have enough issues and problems within the boundaries of this City to fuel many collective improvements. Let's stop the Personal Attacks and start working as a team or a number of teams to make a better environment for all. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My name is Dan Sciannameo. This is not my forum and I don't post here as if I thought it were. Unlike you, I do not tell people what to post or if they should be posting unless registered to vote in AP. All you did was point out a detail? What detail? That Gerry may not be registered to vote in AP? So what? What does that have to do with anything? You implied that his postings were meaningless unless he registered here. Perhaps, if he is not registered here he has 1 of those 1001 reasons you speak of. Why do you find my remark ironic? You brought up the issue of people on forums and in letters to the editor making allegations about city actions. Questioning is something that does not appear to be tolerated well here by city officials. That is a first hand impression of my own. Yes, words are easier than actions. I have taken action and am planning even more. I have already donated many professional hours already to the issue of the Triangle to the city, hours that I could have billed to clients for $450/hour. Read your original post again. Yes, you have the right to say what you want here, but that doesn't make what you say right. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Nameless: Everyone has a right to speak up - and if you knew me, you'd know I'm the biggest advocate of people being able to speak up and speak loud. No one put me in charge, as you said. No more than anyone put Jerry in charge. Or you. Is this not an open forum? Or is it your forum? I, as Jerry is doing, am just stating my opinion - why does it bother you so? I don't have any kind of a select view on who can speak out - all I'm asking for is, ironically, what it seems everyone else is asking for: Honesty in Asbury Park for a change. From everyone. I LOVE political motivation - again, if you knew me, you'd know that to be resoundingly true. And although I am not running for City Council, I have a full right to expect that anyone else who is going to take a public forum in this town be As someone who did have a dual residence, I COMPLETELY understand the complex and often times difficult situation that presents. And there are a myriad of reasons why one would not register to vote in AP. A thousand and one. Each valid. Each personal. In closing, I find one of your comments to me highly ironic - Why are many people in power in this city so afraid of a light being shined on the details? If there is nothing to hide there should be no worry. All I did was point out a detail. If there is nothing to hide, why the fuss? Words are easy. Action is harder. Dane Hall Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/