[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
Wow...good find. It pretty much says everything that needs to be said. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this on the web regarding what some perceived to be a negative story about AP in the NYT. Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:05 PM RuthAnn, et al: I have read the article in question online, and found it to be balanced, factual and accurate in it's reporting. While I do not agree with everything that is stated in the article, I can certainly empathize with the fears and frustrations of those that were quoted in the article. I share some of those frustrations, and know that many others in town who did not have the opportunity to express themselves in print do as well. I support Asbury Park and am proud to live here and serve on the city UEZ Board, but I cannot look at life in Asbury through rose- colored glasses. We DO have an enormous crime and drug problem, that the city cannot seem to get the upper hand on. We DO have an enormous and apparant split between the haves and the have not's. We DO have, once again, what seem to be a lot of promises regarding redevelopment but nothing tangible that the average citizen can see, or touch, or proudly point out to their friends and take heart in. We have promised timetables for redevelopment that are not being adhered to; and in fact are being stretched to the point of ridiculousness. All of these points were very fairly presented in the NY Times article. Granted, some of the people interviewed for the article are the usual naysayers that we all must deal with in today's Asbury, and I understand fully that there are many behind-the-scenes technicalities that must first be addressed, but for just a moment, consider how all of this must appear to Mr. and Mrs. Joe Resident, who have no access to the negotiations going on and may still have a bad taste left in their mouths from previous efforts and promises gone bad. A point to consider: if the average resident or visitor could see progress being made, could see something, ANYTHING, happeningpeople would not have to wonder aloud about our city's future in the New York Times. Al Giobbie Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow...good find. It pretty much says everything that needs to be said. And that was 3 years ago! I am focusing on the issue if his impatience with the redevelopment. I wonder how he feels now. I think I'll have his email printed in next week's coaster and TCN. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
you'd think 79% of that was written yesterday. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you'd think 79% of that was written yesterday. Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must have bought those rose-colored glasses in the ensuing years. What a hypocrite! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
x-tad-bigger Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger have bought those rose-colored glasses in the ensuing years. What a /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger hypocrite!/x-tad-bigger The sad thing is that many of the town officials as well as people in the town (including on this board) think it's better for the town for nobody on the outside world to know about the crime. It's almost like they spend more time concealing the statistics than tackling the problems. It's kind of like the war in Iraq. Almost everyone agrees that it's going wrong but if you honestly try to talk about it and propose changes they call you unpatriotic and against the troops. In Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you discuss crime because they think you're against the cops. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
It's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them in action quite a few times, and they're professional, courteous and easy to talk to. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable. The balls on this guy. I wrote him myself. I may be crude and rude but I'm never afraid to put my face against my words. Al must have bought those rose-colored glasses in the ensuing years. What a hypocrite! The sad thing is that many of the town officials as well as people in the town (including on this board) think it's better for the town for nobody on the outside world to know about the crime. It's almost like they spend more time concealing the statistics than tackling the problems. It's kind of like the war in Iraq. Almost everyone agrees that it's going wrong but if you honestly try to talk about it and propose changes they call you unpatriotic and against the troops. In Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you discuss crime because they think you're against the cops. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you discuss crime because they think you're against the cops. I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops are doing a great job, but WE need to do more. It's like not admitting you have cancer and blaming the doctor when he tells you. That's a real good strategy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw lightgrw@ wrote: 3000 more arrest this over last year they are fighting crime but violent crimes are hard to predict. In Asbury Park, they try to bury you if you discuss crime because they think you're against the cops. I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops are doing a great job, but WE need to do more. It's like not admitting you have cancer and blaming the doctor when he tells you. That's a real good strategy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Hinge wrote: x-tad-biggerIt's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger in action quite a few times, and they're professional, courteous and/x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger easy to talk to. /x-tad-bigger I agree. They helped me out one time when my car broke down in town and they're still one of the few beach towns that haven't harassed me for no apparent reason. Most of the local areas try so hard to get ticket money during the summer it isn't even funny. However, there is a difference between criticizing the police and talking about the crime problem and that's where I think people are wrong to ignore the situation. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com
[AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
i think that Asbury could use a good 'ole publicity campaign to show some of the good things that are happening here...such as the police force, and the growth of Cookman. Sucks that we live in a world so full of negativity. Seems like the media only thinks we want to hear about that bad shit that happens in our world. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 3, 2006, at 3:59 PM, Hinge wrote: It's also sad that our excellent police force doesn't get the recognition they deserve. I think they do a great job. I've seen them in action quite a few times, and they're professional, courteous and easy to talk to. I agree. They helped me out one time when my car broke down in town and they're still one of the few beach towns that haven't harassed me for no apparent reason. Most of the local areas try so hard to get ticket money during the summer it isn't even funny. However, there is a difference between criticizing the police and talking about the crime problem and that's where I think people are wrong to ignore the situation. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
x-tad-bigger I think it's more that you might bring bad press to the city. The cops /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger are doing a great job, but WE need to do more. It's like not admitting /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger you have cancer and blaming the doctor when he tells you. That's a real /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger good strategy./x-tad-bigger I understand that having something like summits to talk about and deal with the crime situation would be bad press but it would also show the world that you're trying to change things. There's good and bad in this situation. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: I Guess Al Giobbie (APUEZ) DIdn't Always Hide His Head in the Sand
On Nov 3, 2006, at 4:26 PM, Fred wrote: x-tad-bigger 3000 more arrest this over last year they are fighting crime but /x-tad-bigger x-tad-bigger violent crimes are hard to predict. /x-tad-bigger See you just proved my point. I was not criticizing the police nor did I say they weren't doing their job. There are some problems that need to be discussed BECAUSE they are so big. Yet you just pointed out that they were doing their job and insinuated I suggested they weren't. That's the problem. You can talk about the problem without saying its the fault of the police but people just don't listen to what you're saying when you try. Upstage Magazine - New Jersey's Premier Arts Entertainment Magazine PO Box 140, Spring Lake, NJ 07762(732) 280-3305 http://www.UpstageMagazine.com
