[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing to pay for stuff they want? If millions of people truly wish to drive their automobiles on highways, rather than use bicycles, buses, cabs and trains, why in the world would we have to subsidize roads? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for you Gary about what you wrote below (I've often wondered this same thing about PBS Channel 13). If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing to pay for stuff they want? No government has to subsidize Great Adventure. Isn't the fact that theater and art districts are in need of government funding proof that people really don't care enough about them to pay for them, and therefore proof that they are not the best tourist draws? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further more what does the City need with two buildings. Operating theatres is not a good idea for Municipal Governments. Almost every theatre company in New Jersey operates at a loss. All of them are subsidized as much as 50% of their annual budgets. Do the tax payers of the City of Long Branch need this additional tax burden? I think not! Gee, I wonder what the NYC economy would be like without the theatre district bringing thousands of people to the restaurants, hotels and stores all year long? Theatre is subsidized because it¹s an investment in the area. Without ³burdens² like this, towns die. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
On 10/3/05 4:02 PM, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing to pay for stuff they want? If millions of people truly wish to drive their automobiles on highways, rather than use bicycles, buses, cabs and trains, why in the world would we have to subsidize roads? Or why do we subsidize the airline industry? Why do we offer grants and assistance to business owners? If their idea is so great, why do they need money? In the end, societies are recognized and remembered for their art... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
Roads are government owned, Skip. That isn't a private subsidy. If millions of people truly wish to drive their automobiles on highways, rather than use bicycles, buses, cabs and trains, why in the world would we have to subsidize roads? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for you Gary about what you wrote below (I've often wondered this same thing about PBS Channel 13). If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing to pay for stuff they want? No government has to subsidize Great Adventure. Isn't the fact that theater and art districts are in need of government funding proof that people really don't care enough about them to pay for them, and therefore proof that they are not the best tourist draws? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further more what does the City need with two buildings. Operating theatres is not a good idea for Municipal Governments. Almost every theatre company in New Jersey operates at a loss. All of them are subsidized as much as 50% of their annual budgets. Do the tax payers of the City of Long Branch need this additional tax burden? I think not! Gee, I wonder what the NYC economy would be like without the theatre district bringing thousands of people to the restaurants, hotels and stores all year long? Theatre is subsidized because it¹s an investment in the area. Without ³burdens² like this, towns die. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
Or why do we subsidize the airline industry? Because they don't have a big enough commercial draw to sustain themselves. Why do we offer grants and assistance to business owners? Usually to start them up, not to sustain them. If it is to sustain them, then it is because they aren't a big enough commercial draw. Now, how about those theaters and art districts? Are the susbsidies necessary because they aren't a big enough commercial draw? If their idea is so great, why do they need money? In the end, societies are recognized and remembered for their art... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
On 10/3/05 4:49 PM, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or why do we subsidize the airline industry? Because they don't have a big enough commercial draw to sustain themselves. I don't understand. Why is that okay? People do not HAVE to fly. By subsidizing the industry and rescuing them time and time from bankruptcy courts, aren't we basically saying that we NEED to fly? When there are obviously alternative methods of transportation. Do conservatives complain about this? Just wondering, I really don't know whether they do or not; however, it would seem to be a perfect case of wasteful spending. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
At 8:49 PM + 10/3/05, bluebishop82 wrote: Or why do we subsidize the airline industry? Because they don't have a big enough commercial draw to sustain themselves. Are you suggesting that we should halt the subsidy of the airlines? (it's a question, not an assertion.) What about AmTrak? (Again, a question, not an assertion.) ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
Roads are government owned, Skip. That isn't a private subsidy. Roads, fuel and automobile manufacturers are subsidized initially to develop that industry, today habitually because the risk of not doing so is the loss of too many votes for either of the oligopolist parties to risk. The same mindset exists for any industry able to lobby either party with the message to lose us is to risk the safety or wellbeing of the nation; since politicians are jacks-of-all-trades and masters of none, and know that to curry favor with the powerful is to provide for their autumn years, the game plays on. American commerce is riddled with subsidy, privilege and special interest, and the bigger you are the more certain this is. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Roads are government owned, Skip. That isn't a private subsidy. If millions of people truly wish to drive their automobiles on highways, rather than use bicycles, buses, cabs and trains, why in the world would we have to subsidize roads? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for you Gary about what you wrote below (I've often wondered this same thing about PBS Channel 13). If thousands of people truly wish to flock to theater districts, why in the world would we have to subsidize them? Aren't people willing to pay for stuff they want? No government has to subsidize Great Adventure. Isn't the fact that theater and art districts are in need of government funding proof that people really don't care enough about them to pay for them, and therefore proof that they are not the best tourist draws? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Further more what does the City need with two buildings. Operating theatres is not a good idea for Municipal Governments. Almost every theatre company in New Jersey operates at a loss. All of them are subsidized as much as 50% of their annual budgets. Do the tax payers of the City of Long Branch need this additional tax burden? I think not! Gee, I wonder what the NYC economy would be like without the theatre district bringing thousands of people to the restaurants, hotels and stores all year long? Theatre is subsidized because it¹s an investment in the area. Without ³burdens² like this, towns die. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
Cetainly is a concept that is on the table for me. Of course the airling subsidy might be the payoff for such extreme regulation. Perhaps the way to end the subsidy is to de-regulate and let business handle their business, which also means my tax money gets to stay in my pocket. By all means yes - let's look at ending these subsidies. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 8:49 PM + 10/3/05, bluebishop82 wrote: Or why do we subsidize the airline industry? Because they don't have a big enough commercial draw to sustain themselves. Are you suggesting that we should halt the subsidy of the airlines? (it's a question, not an assertion.) What about AmTrak? (Again, a question, not an assertion.) ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Please... give me a break -- give us all a break
Southwest Airlines, JetBlue, AirTran others have developed a pretty profitable business model without using the government subsidies/government regulation. I don't have an opinion on Amtrak, as the only people I know who use it on a regular basis are politicians lobbyists. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Joe D'Andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that we should halt the subsidy of the airlines? (it's a question, not an assertion.) What about AmTrak? (Again, a question, not an assertion.) ~joe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
