[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political Suicide for any of the town board members who fight this or hold it up from progressing by one day. When are elections again? My guess is that's why Partners/MM came out with the Press Release. They immediately win public (not all) support, Fishman in back row. They did alot with little. They buy cameras and system. Win for them. They support schools. They support downtown. Win. They finish Convention Hall - even the windows. They open the WB. Win, They pave Kingsley. They work on the bulkhead. They make those empty Kusner lots look decent this year. Win. They look at saving Charms building. Unite all marketing efforts. Win, West side briefly mentioned. They'll have to suport that as well. Like I said - one big walk from the BW and cross the tracks. When questioned,m Hugh said MM did not pay Partners any $. You an bet there is a payday. It will be a big one for both - and if all goes well, for ALL the residents. MM also mentions kiosks and more. City has to remember who owns the BW. There has to be a fair tradeoff and a valid plan. The payday might not be cash up - but a schedule for each phase of improvements. Pay if not delivered. The easiest way to create parking is to reopen the lot behind the Empress. In the prime, that lot was a cash cow. MM is going to win public support - something partners didn't understand. It's in the open now. Did they take the supposed backroom dealings to the public? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Measure twice, cut once as the carpenters like to say. \ My father-in-law does it even more when he did molding. his coping saw and patience were amazing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
I hope you aren't asking the Council to act impetuously. We've seen grand plans before. I go back to Dan Sciannemeo's first post about this as to making sure the plan is backed by money and deadlines. Measure twice, cut once as the carpenters like to say. So long as those two issues are in order (along with the strongest default provision known to lawyers), after that you get the hell out of AP/MM's way and let it roll. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political Suicide for any of the town board members who fight this or hold it up from progressing by one day. When are elections again? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
I am not a lawyer so i don't know all the legal particulars But they just raised 480 million 9 months ago They also put up their own timelines. These guys are not cupcakes, look at their other projects and look at the size of the organization I do agree that everything needs to be done properly and legally. However, lets not do this approval on municipal time but lets do it on private enterprise time. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you aren't asking the Council to act impetuously. We've seen grand plans before. I go back to Dan Sciannemeo's first post about this as to making sure the plan is backed by money and deadlines. Measure twice, cut once as the carpenters like to say. So long as those two issues are in order (along with the strongest default provision known to lawyers), after that you get the hell out of AP/MM's way and let it roll. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Political Suicide for any of the town board members who fight this or hold it up from progressing by one day. When are elections again? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
I agree and I'm on AP/MM's side. However last time all I asked for at the start was M.D. Sass Group of Companies on the Redevelopers Agreement, and I didn't get it. This time all I ask for is: 1. Proof of financing 2. Deadlines 3. A serious default clause It will take one day of negotiation to get those things. Then I say get the hell out of their way. Disband the TRC and all pretty committee aspects of the Planning Board. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I hope you aren't asking the Council to act impetuously. We've seen grand plans before. You always make good points - but this time, you have seen action. like it or not, control of the boardwalk and land is control of one group with a big investment. Granted until last year all we saw were coors light banners. But I think we got rid of that mentality. The downtown has come along way. The west side has to see some action. Can MM spur action in the rest of town - assist in schools and in safety. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you aren't asking the Council to act impetuously. We've seen grand plans before. You always make good points - but this time, you have seen action. like it or not, control of the boardwalk and land is control of one group with a big investment. Granted until last year all we saw were coors light banners. But I think we got rid of that mentality. The downtown has come along way. The west side has to see some action. Can MM spur action in the rest of town - assist in schools and in safety. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Political Suicide
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Political Suicide for any of the town board members who fight this or hold it up from progressing by one day. When are elections again? Why would anyone hold it up? Why was this press release/conference issued? Was the city notified/invited? If all of the promises are delivered - great. Do they have strings attached? Much goes on that many do not know. Don't be so quick to blame the city for not being there or quick to assume that it will stand in the way of those promises. Stalking horses. Strawmen. Maybe the above is what MM will want you to believe. There are no guarantees. There are no guarantees. There are no guarantees. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
