Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-25 Thread charlie leonard



"-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the liquor license being used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the license for Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the first thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for the kiddies. GO FIGURE!"
they also said, familys would be encourged during the day, but at night it would be a different situation (bars, clubs dont usally get as much attention as they do at night) there are no rides, and i dont think there will be? unless they change their minds about that. or if a developer comes along, who wants to. then i guess maybe they would allow it. 
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things 2

2005-08-25 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
...werent you
 the one who commented on the west ocean grove square? 
 that it was built too far back from the street,
 causing it to not match the surrounding downtown area?
  meaning, the rest of mainstreet.
...   they
 could have built kinglsy far away from the street, but
 they didnt.  which is good, beasue it will match the
 rest of cookman.

The design context of a Main street and that of the waterfront in 
Asbury Park are quite different. What's good for one may not be good 
for the other. The beauty, look and feel of the beachfront is 
directly related to the apprpriate use of open space.

Set backs from property lines, green buffer zones, view corridors, 
widths of streets and other built variables have a great effect on 
the value of the area. Building of every available square foot 
devalues the very design and beauty that gives our beachfront its 
character.

I don't understand what you're refering regarding the relation 
between Kingsley and Cookman. I was speaking about the new 
construction north of the BC Hotel.

Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-25 Thread bluebishop82
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Interesting that environmentalists (natural) are hailed as the good 
guys,...

Who says? ;-)




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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-25 Thread Sharon G. Boone


OH! So where did this liquor license materialize from, Uncle Phil? Word is HE owned ALL of the liquor licenses on the shore except, the Legions in Neptune, the VFW in Neptune, The Elks on Asbury Ave., etc., the non-profits and veterans organizations. Don't know if the VFW in Asbury has one or the Sons of Italy. Maybe they got the license from the Redwood, but I heard the Redwood is about to reopen. Oh, the Redwood was owned by Vance Funderberk, a Black man and he DID own his license, also. So, where did the Tiki Bar get the money, UEZ? Just kidding! Thanks! I think I like you!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"sandy\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:-CHisConventionHall.ThereferenceistotheliquorlicensebeingusedbyAsburyPartnersattheTikiBar.HowboutthelicenseforClubDeep?APPartnerssaidtheywantedafamilyBWandthefirstthingtheydidwasopentwoalcoholestablishments.Butnoridesforthekiddies.GOFIGURE!--InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"SharonG.Boone"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:I'mconfused.WhoisCHandwhereisthelicenseorthelocation?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"oakdorf\"wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"wrote:Oak:Actually,OceanCityhascondosontopofthierboardwalkpavillions.Iwishwehadthemhere.Theviews!Theratables!Year-roundactivityatthebeach!Youcan'tbeserious.Notneeded.Howaboutcleaninguptheentiretownbeforeembarkingonblockingtheocean.Whileyou'reatit,changethenameofoceanave-afterall,youwon'tbeabletoseeit.(theocean)how'daliquorlicenscthatneverexistedeverwindupatCHanyway,tomYahoo!GroupsLinksYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-25 Thread Sharon G. Boone


Sounds like they want a "Little Miami" here! All we need is the Art Deco look, but wait, we do! CH, is Art Deco but they tore everything else down except the Casino! Of course they want to retain the 70's flavor of the Stone Pony. Don't know why, because ALL kinds of entertainment has come to CH and the Paramount! THEY were the venues that MOST artists sought to get into, rather than the small, cramped, Pony. My opinion. Club Paradise is a good example of the Miami-fication of Asbury with its' lighting effects and it's disco-type/Latin? sound? Just guessing. Never been there. Heard they don't like straights there, but it's a bit over my head anyway. If I walked in, they'd say, "Where's Grandma going"? No, I hang with a laid-back crowd. The slow-jams and oldies group/jazz funkies! Oh well, different strokes!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--charlieleonard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
"-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the liquor license being used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the license for Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the first thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for the kiddies. GO FIGURE!"
they also said, familys would be encourged during the day, but at night it would be a different situation (bars, clubs dont usally get as much attention as they do at night) there are no rides, and i dont think there will be? unless they change their minds about that. or if a developer comes along, who wants to. then i guess maybe they would allow it. 


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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-25 Thread Skip Bernstein





Perhaps too much rock for your 
tastes; but you should try the WonderBar; especially Wednesdays with the Jazz 
Lobsters
http://www.wonderbarnj.com/Enter/Jazz_Lobsters.htm
Skip Bernstein[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://JerseyShoreRocks.com

- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Sharon G. 
  Boone 
  To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:34 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of 
  Things
  Sounds like they want a "Little Miami" here! All we need is the 
  Art Deco look, but wait, we do! CH, is Art Deco but they tore everything else 
  down except the Casino! Of course they want to retain the 70's flavor of the 
  Stone Pony. Don't know why, because ALL kinds of entertainment has come to CH 
  and the Paramount! THEY were the venues that MOST artists sought to get into, 
  rather than the small, cramped, Pony. My opinion. Club Paradise is a good 
  example of the Miami-fication of Asbury with its' lighting effects and it's 
  disco-type/Latin? sound? Just guessing. Never been there. Heard they don't 
  like straights there, but it's a bit over my head anyway. If I walked in, 
  they'd say, "Where's Grandma going"? No, I hang with a laid-back crowd. The 
  slow-jams and oldies group/jazz funkies! Oh well, different 
  strokes!SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--charlieleonard<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
  "-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the 
  liquor license being used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the 
  license for Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the 
  first thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for 
  the kiddies. GO FIGURE!"
  they also said, familys would be encourged during 
  the day, but at night it would be a different situation (bars, clubs dont 
  usally get as much attention as they do at night) there are no rides, 
  and i dont think there will be? unless they change their minds about 
  that. or if a developer comes along, who wants to. then i guess 
  maybe they would allow it. 
  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-24 Thread wernerapnj
Perhaps Tom is suffering from the too many margarites and too much 
sun syndrome I mentioned earlier. I'm certain that changing Ocean 
Avenue into DeSeno Way would suit him just fine.

I'm still waiting for some of that critical legal anaysis of issues 
previously raised.

Werner 

Do --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
  pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  
Year-
  round activity at the beach!
 
 
 You can't be serious.
 
 Not needed.
 
 How about cleaning up the entire town before embarking on blocking 
the 
 ocean. 
 
 While you're at it, change the name of ocean ave - after all, you 
 won't be able to see it. (the ocean)
 
 how'd a liquor licensc that never existed ever wind up at CH 
anyway, 
 tom





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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PS, You can't even get Asbury Partners to do what they are supposed, 
 I didn't expect them to water the green spaces during a heat wave 
 and near drought. ...

Dan, the issue is that the 'spaces' are not maintained at all, not that 
they are not watered. Watering dirt, gravel and concrete wouldn't do 
much for esthetics.

Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Go ahead and review my posts with everyone else.
...
 Some examples:
 
 OK to say:  I disagree with you.  You are wrong about that. Your 
 opinion is not supported by the facts, so you are wrong about that. 
 Here is why my conclusion is better than yours, etc.
 

Tom, WADR, this is exactly what you don't do. Is this wishful
thinking? More often than not you take others comments out of 
context, twist them around and feed them back with your own spin 
about what the meaning was.

You rarely if ever back up your opinions with hard data and then come 
back with 'it doesn't matter what I've studied, I'm just right' when 
challanged.

OH, Now I get it - Justified Right  :-)

Werner

PS - why not just get past Skip's style and address the issues he 
raises?





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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-24 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Dear everyone:  If you don't want people getting nasty in these 
 posts, then please let Skip know how you feel about his post below.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Those green spaces between the pavillions ought to have more
  pavillions built on them.
  
  You really don't like Asbury do you Tommy?  You don't like
  historic buildings, you don't like a view of the ocean and
  you don't like residents of the city getting fair compensation
  for the sale of their assets.  
  
  You are not merely a silly ass but a very strange bird.

ass - NOUN:  One deficient in judgment and good sense:

Just answer the issues. Do you like Asbury Park?, Why don't you like 
historic buildings?, Why don't you like views of the Ocean? and Why 
shouldn't the taxpayers be fairly treated?

Werner






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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-24 Thread bluebishop82
Sure Werner, I'll try to answer the questions one at a time:

Do you like Asbury Park?

An objective observer would have to say I do.  Take a look at the 
facts.  All my family history is here. I am a third generation 
AP'er. My paternal grandfather built the Son's of Italy on Asbury 
Avenue.  My maternal grandfather was a Deputy Chief of the Fire 
Department.  I went to the schools here, was married here, etc.  I 
still spend more time here than anywhere else. I collect the City's 
memorabilia.

I moved my office here and took a marked hit in profits (I knew that 
would happen) because many clients were initially afraid to come 
here, but I wanted to assist the Downtown. My business pays rent 
here and I create jobs here. 

I'm currently under contract to buy property here.

I was a founding member of the Merchants Guild, and have done all 
their legal work pro bono for 3 years now. I volunteer my time free 
to the UEZ board.  I volunteer my time free to the Parade Committee. 
I give money to every civic group that asks (believe me they ask 
constantly). I've supported our Police Department so much that the 
head of the Union for the State of New Jersey made me an honorary 
lifetime member of Asbury's local.

I give historical speeches with a slide show to civic groups about 
AP, and instead of taking a stipend (which they offer), I ask the 
group instead to meet me at my office on a Friday afternoon, so I 
can give them a free tour of the Downtown stores (I have to close my 
office to do that). 

I take the AP Press to task for being unfair to AP as often and as 
hard as I can. Try asking them to do a story about my free Downtown 
tours which is great for our stores.  They won't. They had no 
problem printing the story about my office being burglarized 
though.  See, it's only bad news about AP that's worth printing for 
them.  That's why I prefer the Coaster.

I vigorously defend this City against people who say such things as 
our residents can't make an intelligent, informed decision or that 
we are basically a racist community.

I would like to see the gentleman who originally asked me this 
question to list what he does for AP, other than complain about it.

The answer Werner is yes, I like, even love AP.

Let me note this:  Taking all of the above together gives me no more 
or less right to speak about AP or to be taken at my word on issues 
about AP.  I have no entitlement to be right (or wrong) on an issue 
based upon who I am, what I've done or what I've studied.  I'm 
either right or I'm wrong because I am correct or not about what I 
say, not because of who I am.

 Why don't you like historic buildings?

I do. I just don't see many here in AP.

 Why don't you like views of the Ocean?

I love views of the Ocean.  That's why I want to have one for 
myself, preferably a condo on top of a boardwalk pavilion.  What is 
that old saying?  A developer is someone who wants to build a house 
in the woods.  An environmentalist is someone who already owns a 
house in the woods.  Sorry if progress takes away some existing 
ocean views, but really Werner, if the guy who has a house just west 
of yours complained that your home destroys his Ocean view there on 
5th Avenue, I doubt you would tear your house down for him.  The 
gentleman who originally built your house didn't buy the argument 
either.  Now that you live there, I'll bet you are glad he didn't 
care about his westerly neighbors complaining about loosing their 
Ocean views.

Why shouldn't the taxpayers be fairly treated?

What post did I make saying otherwise?  I'm sure you don't read my 
column, but if you read my piece on the Kelo decision you certainly 
wouldn't be asking me this question!






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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-24 Thread Sharon G. Boone


I'm confused. Who is CH and where is the license or the location?SharonBoone[EMAIL PROTECTED]--\"oakdorf\"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:---InAsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,"bluebishop82"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Oak:Actually,OceanCityhascondosontopofthierboardwalkpavillions.Iwishwehadthemhere.Theviews!Theratables!Year-roundactivityatthebeach!Youcan'tbeserious.Notneeded.Howaboutcleaninguptheentiretownbeforeembarkingonblockingtheocean.Whileyou'reatit,changethenameofoceanave-afterall,youwon'tbeabletoseeit.(theocean)how'daliquorlicenscthatneverexistedeverwindupatCHanyway,tomYahoo!GroupsSponsor~--GetfastaccesstoyourfavoriteYahoo!Groups.MakeYahoo!yourhomepagehttp://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM~-Yahoo!GroupsLinks*Tovisityourgroupontheweb,goto:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/*Tounsubscribefromthisgroup,sendanemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]*YouruseofYahoo!Groupsissubjectto:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

  




  
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-24 Thread sandy
-CH is Convention Hall. The reference is to the liquor license being 
used by Asbury Partners at the Tiki Bar. How bout the license for 
Club Deep? AP Partners said they wanted a family BW and the first 
thing they did was open two alcohol establishments. But no rides for 
the kiddies. GO FIGURE!


-- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon G. Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 I'm confused. Who is CH and where is the license or the location?
 
 
 Sharon Boone
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -- \oakdorf\  wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82  
 wrote:
  Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
  pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  
Year-
  round activity at the beach!
 
 
 You can't be serious.
 
 Not needed.
 
 How about cleaning up the entire town before embarking on blocking 
the 
 ocean. 
 
 While you're at it, change the name of ocean ave - after all, you 
 won't be able to see it. (the ocean)
 
 how'd a liquor licensc that never existed ever wind up at CH 
anyway, 
 tom
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread bluebishop82
That's ought to have more pavillions built on them.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Those green spaces between the pavillions out to have more 
 pavillions built on them.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The green acres land between pavilions looks awful.not 
kept up
   this 
   year at all.we are slowly drifting backwards! THESE FAST 
TRACK 
   PROJECTS NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED...NOW! WE ARE DYING!
  
  Not only don't the Green Spaces between the pavilions look 
green, 
 the 
  pavilions look like crumbling kindergarten projects, the Casino 
is 
  imploding on itself and the Con. Hall is deteriorating.
  
  I think the folks that are raving about the 'new and improved' 
  beachfront have been in the sun too long; had too many 
margaritas at 
  the Tiki bar; or a combination of both.
  
  Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-23 Thread Skip Bernstein
Those green spaces between the pavillions ought to have more
pavillions built on them.

You really don't like Asbury do you Tommy?  You don't like historic
buildings, you don't like a view of the ocean and you don't like
residents of the city getting fair compensation for the sale of their
assets.  

You are not merely a silly ass but a very strange bird.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 That's ought to have more pavillions built on them.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Those green spaces between the pavillions out to have more 
  pavillions built on them.
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The green acres land between pavilions looks awful.not 
 kept up
this 
year at all.we are slowly drifting backwards! THESE FAST 
 TRACK 
PROJECTS NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED...NOW! WE ARE DYING!
   
   Not only don't the Green Spaces between the pavilions look 
 green, 
  the 
   pavilions look like crumbling kindergarten projects, the Casino 
 is 
   imploding on itself and the Con. Hall is deteriorating.
   
   I think the folks that are raving about the 'new and improved' 
   beachfront have been in the sun too long; had too many 
 margaritas at 
   the Tiki bar; or a combination of both.
   
   Werner




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread bluebishop82
Those green spaces between the pavillions out to have more 
pavillions built on them.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The green acres land between pavilions looks awful.not kept up
  this 
  year at all.we are slowly drifting backwards! THESE FAST TRACK 
  PROJECTS NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED...NOW! WE ARE DYING!
 
 Not only don't the Green Spaces between the pavilions look green, 
the 
 pavilions look like crumbling kindergarten projects, the Casino is 
 imploding on itself and the Con. Hall is deteriorating.
 
 I think the folks that are raving about the 'new and improved' 
 beachfront have been in the sun too long; had too many margaritas at 
 the Tiki bar; or a combination of both.
 
 Werner





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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-23 Thread bluebishop82
Dear everyone:  If you don't want people getting nasty in these 
posts, then please let Skip know how you feel about his post below.  
It isn't fair to ask me not to do it, but say nothing to Skip and 
let me take it on the chin like this when he does it.  Please let 
him know how you feel about such personal attacks so I don't have to 
get into it with him, and you won't have to have your board 
cluttered by it.

Thanks.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Those green spaces between the pavillions ought to have more
 pavillions built on them.
 
 You really don't like Asbury do you Tommy?  You don't like historic
 buildings, you don't like a view of the ocean and you don't like
 residents of the city getting fair compensation for the sale of 
their
 assets.  
 
 You are not merely a silly ass but a very strange bird.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  That's ought to have more pavillions built on them.
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Those green spaces between the pavillions out to have more 
   pavillions built on them.
   
   
   --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 The green acres land between pavilions looks awful.not 
  kept up
 this 
 year at all.we are slowly drifting backwards! THESE 
FAST 
  TRACK 
 PROJECTS NEED TO BE FAST TRACKED...NOW! WE ARE DYING!

Not only don't the Green Spaces between the pavilions look 
  green, 
   the 
pavilions look like crumbling kindergarten projects, the 
Casino 
  is 
imploding on itself and the Con. Hall is deteriorating.

I think the folks that are raving about the 'new and 
improved' 
beachfront have been in the sun too long; had too many 
  margaritas at 
the Tiki bar; or a combination of both.

Werner





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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Dear everyone:  If you don't want people getting nasty in these 
 posts, then please let Skip know how you feel about his post below.  


Now, now, girls. When I step in as the ref things are really bad. While 
unproductive, what is good for the goose should be good for the gander. 
It was only a day or two ago you told Skip to get a job and that 
Fishman fired him. It may have been in retalitation for something he 
said, but I am losing count. Let's all play nice now.






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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things -- a very strange bird

2005-08-23 Thread bluebishop82
I think traderdube got it right the other day.  Skip is always on the 
attack. Periodically I throw up a defense,(because I'm only human) but 
the score is hardly even.

Go ahead and review my posts with everyone else.  I follow one rule:  
I don't make a conclusion about the person. That's the secret to 
being polite on a board like this.

Some examples:

OK to say:  I disagree with you.  You are wrong about that. Your 
opinion is not supported by the facts, so you are wrong about that. 
Here is why my conclusion is better than yours, etc.

Not OK to say:  You are wrong because you don't know anything.  You 
are wrong because you are stupid.  You are wrong because you have not 
studied as much as me.  You don't care.  You are a racist. You're 
biased.  You're on the take. You you you you you.

It simply never moves a discussion forward to concentrate on the 
person.  Concentrate on the other person's analysis, conclusion, etc., 
that's fine.

Look at Skip's last post.  All I said was I would like to see 
buildings where the open space on the boardwalk is.  He never engaged 
the subject.  Just called me personally a bunch of bad things.

Surely you see the difference.





--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  Dear everyone:  If you don't want people getting nasty in these 
  posts, then please let Skip know how you feel about his post 
below.  
 
 
 Now, now, girls. When I step in as the ref things are really bad. 
While 
 unproductive, what is good for the goose should be good for the 
gander. 
 It was only a day or two ago you told Skip to get a job and that 
 Fishman fired him. It may have been in retalitation for something he 
 said, but I am losing count. Let's all play nice now.




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread oakdorf
more crap built? How about finishing what hey started. Sure, those 
little green patches should have something like a mini-golf, band shell 
or benches.

Tommy, why not just build condos there? 




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread bluebishop82
Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  Year-
round activity at the beach!


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 more crap built? How about finishing what hey started. Sure, those 
 little green patches should have something like a mini-golf, band 
shell 
 or benches.
 
 Tommy, why not just build condos there?




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
 pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  
Year-
 round activity at the beach!
 
Doesn't our plan call for 2-story pavillions with office or retail 
on top and slightly higher buildings on the west side of ocean ave? 
As Oak said, we can;t even get built was it supposed to get built 
let alone additional stuff. Screw it, why not be like Bradley, OG 
and others and have NO boardwalk buildings?

PS, You can't even get Asbury Partners to do what they are supposed, 
I didn't expect them to water the green spaces during a heat wave 
and near drought. In fact, the state of the lawns in AP during the 
recent near drought (without water restrictions) I think is telling. 
My property manager thinks I am nuts watering the lawn 
saying don't you know you can't grow grass in AP? I suspect with 
an inordinate amount of renters versus owners there is no initiative 
to water lawns.




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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
 pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  Year-
 round activity at the beach!


You can't be serious.

Not needed.

How about cleaning up the entire town before embarking on blocking the 
ocean. 

While you're at it, change the name of ocean ave - after all, you 
won't be able to see it. (the ocean)

how'd a liquor licensc that never existed ever wind up at CH anyway, 
tom





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[AsburyPark] Re: The Look of Things

2005-08-23 Thread jerseyjohn99
Wow! That was quick...

they went from building them last Wednesday to having them today!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/11282

Who's the developer down there?

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Oak:  Actually, Ocean City has condos on top of thier boardwalk 
 pavillions. I wish we had them here. The views! The ratables!  Year-
 round activity at the beach!
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  more crap built? How about finishing what hey started. Sure,
those 
  little green patches should have something like a mini-golf, band 
 shell 
  or benches.
  
  Tommy, why not just build condos there?





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