[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-12 Thread 2fine4u
I can only think of one statement, coming to mind; Hindsight is
20/20!  What else can I say?  Werner, you laid it out for them, but
did anyone listen?  No, but they FIND time, to hassle you and anyone
else, that they feel threatened by!  To the City:  We told you so!
We need REAL law and order and what do we get?  2 mounted police
parading around, like we're Mayberry, Broken lights, rubbish and
graffitti in the park!  No offense to the police, who probably mean
well.  We need a Little League field in working order.  What do we
get?  Major hassles and bills, from an uncaring law firm!  Where do we
find these people?   No offense to any Member of the Board, who also
need a permanent office, having had theirs taken, by emminent domain!  

So what do we, as ordinary citizens do?  Our Council has had bad
advice!  No offense to any member of the Council, for trying!  We live
in an era, where no one takes the blame, for their actions.  I've
decided, no one's to blame; let's just erase the board and begin over!
Okay, let the games and the flames, begin!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I forgot about this one, another 'keeper'..
 
 A Little Bit of Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1242
 
 Five years ago.
 
 Werner
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote:
 
  Great observation Oak, a read through the 'Archives' is eye opening.
  
  Here's a gem I found:
  
  Destruction of an american Icon
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1200 
  
  Sums up how we got to where we are today.
  
  Werner
 





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Six Years ago...
 
 Future of Asbury Park
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/347
 
 Future of Asbury Park
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/354




The beauty of the Internet and Tech,

Our late night thoughts are preserved forever and ever - and easily retrieved 
to be seen 
and heard again.

Someday, long after I'm gone, my daughter might be pulling up some old rant I 
had about 
Asbury.  See my dad said the samething 40 years ago and it still.

I hope not. I won't repeat what she said last night while I was reading her the 
story. 
it was something like you said THIS time it's...

What was nice in the old days lots of thoughts got put on paper, left in 
basement then 
washed away in a flood when stormy night.






 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The beauty of the Internet and Tech,
 
 Our late night thoughts are preserved forever and ever - and easily
retrieved to be seen 
 and heard again.
 
==

Great observation Oak, a read through the 'Archives' is eye opening.

Here's a gem I found:

Destruction of an american Icon
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1200 

Sums up how we got to where we are today.

Werner



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
I forgot about this one, another 'keeper'..

A Little Bit of Knowledge is a Dangerous Thing
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1242

Five years ago.

Werner

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great observation Oak, a read through the 'Archives' is eye opening.
 
 Here's a gem I found:
 
 Destruction of an american Icon
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/1200 
 
 Sums up how we got to where we are today.
 
 Werner





 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread wernerapnj
And 4 years ago...

What are the REAL Isues ?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/message/2784

Werner

PS: I'm posting these links so that I don't have to write everything
all over again... All the concepts still apply.




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread oakdorf
-maybe a new, developer with deeper pockets will step up.

The question then becomes, will the current plan/design for the ESP be kept?






 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread Allan Peterson
Who would step up to that plate?  Metro is trying to stay in business so there 
may not be a fire sale.  At least not right away.  Right now Partners needs to 
work closely with Madison M.



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-maybe a new, developer with deeper pockets will step up.

The question then becomes, will the current plan/design for the ESP be kept?





  

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[AsburyPark] Re: Time to Fix Some Mistakes

2007-12-11 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who would step up to that plate?  Metro is trying to stay in
business so there may not be a fire sale.  At least not right away. 
Right now Partners needs to work closely with Madison M.

Why? Partners has a choke hold on this city for another 25 years. They
only took on MM when the city got tough with the DRA. After a while,
Partners starting feeling its oats again with MM because the pressure
is off. There is no love loss between Partners and MM.

The only way Partners could possibly be kept in line is to continually
harass them with litigation.




 
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