[AsburyPark] Re: fighting a mission is a futile action

2006-07-11 Thread Sharon Boone
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it just me or did concerned heterosexual citizens voice 
concerns on this issue.  I do remember them being concerned that the 
Market Street Mission will not be performing background checks via 
Social Security Numbers as the County and the Salvation Army do.  
This would mean the felons and the Megan's Law sex offenders that 
they would turn away could stay at Asbury Ave  Memorial. 
 
 They would be released around 7 AM out onto the street where a 
children's school bus stop is, not to mention a clear walking path 
for teenagers heading north to the high school from AP's southside.
 
 While heterosexuals are not the only ones that have children in 
Asbury Park, the majority of children in the at-risk proposed area 
around the Mission seem to belong to heterosexual parents.   
 
 Please ask the families over here how they feel about the prospect 
of sex offenders and felons around the corner from where their 
children play due to Market Street's decision not to perform the 
most minimum efforts to ensure their children's safety and I am sure 
that you will here those deafening heterosexual voices against the 
mission.
 
 Respectfully,
 Tom

You assume, that that's what they are! Sex offenders and felons.  
Not just men who are down and out! Some have posted here, that we 
already have too many in this community.  Where, pray tell!  The 
night my husband suffered a heart attack, JSMC had several in their 
emergency room, due to the severe cold, 1/31/06.  If you had seen 
their condition, you'd rethink your statement.  In a country of 
plenty, the homeless have nowhere to go, kids go to sleep hungry, 
every night, while you sleep in your warm home, loft or condo, while 
kids on the west side sleep in roach and rat infested, slums, while 
the north east live in splendor!  All I can say is remember 
Katrina.  That's the face of America and its' racist policies.






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[AsburyPark] Re: fighting a mission is a futile action

2006-07-11 Thread Tom
Before I respond to your reply, I must first ask you, do you ever make
a posting or a reply without the word racist?  It seems that is your
response to those that oppose your views.  Please offer thoughtful
arguments in the place of politically charged words.

Now, to your comments about my posting:

The assumption is not that all homeless people are felons or sexual
offenders.  The assumption is that since the other shelters will not
allow homeless people have been convicted of felonies or sexual crimes
that some of the forty beds of the Market Street shelter will contain
felons and/or sex offenders since the Market Street Shelter does not
check criminal backgrounds of their clients.  Sharon, can you or any
one else guarantee that without the same background checks the County
and the Salvation Army use that this will not be the case?  If so,
please elaborate how to the group.

I deal with homeless people every day at my work.  I place them in
ambulances to get treatment for their health problems.  I help find
the people that hit them in the head with a bottle and steal the
little possessions they have because the bad guy thinks they will get
away with it.  I try get them emergency housing, even when they are
afraid of the very shelters that can help them due to the same
problems with theft in the very place they seek refuge.  Oh, by the
way, the homeless people I deal with are a mixture of White, Black,
and Hispanic.  

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Sharon Boone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tom Wolfe me@ wrote:
 
  Is it just me or did concerned heterosexual citizens voice 
 concerns on this issue.  I do remember them being concerned that the 
 Market Street Mission will not be performing background checks via 
 Social Security Numbers as the County and the Salvation Army do.  
 This would mean the felons and the Megan's Law sex offenders that 
 they would turn away could stay at Asbury Ave  Memorial. 
  
  They would be released around 7 AM out onto the street where a 
 children's school bus stop is, not to mention a clear walking path 
 for teenagers heading north to the high school from AP's southside.
  
  While heterosexuals are not the only ones that have children in 
 Asbury Park, the majority of children in the at-risk proposed area 
 around the Mission seem to belong to heterosexual parents.   
  
  Please ask the families over here how they feel about the prospect 
 of sex offenders and felons around the corner from where their 
 children play due to Market Street's decision not to perform the 
 most minimum efforts to ensure their children's safety and I am sure 
 that you will here those deafening heterosexual voices against the 
 mission.
  
  Respectfully,
  Tom
 
 You assume, that that's what they are! Sex offenders and felons.  
 Not just men who are down and out! Some have posted here, that we 
 already have too many in this community.  Where, pray tell!  The 
 night my husband suffered a heart attack, JSMC had several in their 
 emergency room, due to the severe cold, 1/31/06.  If you had seen 
 their condition, you'd rethink your statement.  In a country of 
 plenty, the homeless have nowhere to go, kids go to sleep hungry, 
 every night, while you sleep in your warm home, loft or condo, while 
 kids on the west side sleep in roach and rat infested, slums, while 
 the north east live in splendor!  All I can say is remember 
 Katrina.  That's the face of America and its' racist policies.







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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: fighting a mission is a futile action

2006-07-09 Thread traderdube
I did, and I totally oppose it and I hope that we can somehow stop it, 
for any and all reasons, but mainly, to keep AP from becoming more of a 
destination point than it already is.

wernerapnj wrote:

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 mailto:AsburyPark%40yahoogroups.com, traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Frank,
  With all the same due respect...if the Lighthouse Mission didn't
  discriminate against against gay men, would there still be a Stand Up
  For Asbury Park coalition fighting their move into Asbury?
  Thanks,
  Dennis

 I think you ment to write 'Market Street Mission'.

 Werner

  



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[AsburyPark] Re: fighting a mission is a futile action

2006-07-08 Thread Tom Wolfe
Is it just me or did concerned heterosexual citizens voice concerns on this 
issue.  I do remember them being concerned that the Market Street Mission will 
not be performing background checks via Social Security Numbers as the County 
and the Salvation Army do.  This would mean the felons and the Megan's Law sex 
offenders that they would turn away could stay at Asbury Ave  Memorial. 

They would be released around 7 AM out onto the street where a children's 
school bus stop is, not to mention a clear walking path for teenagers heading 
north to the high school from AP's southside.

While heterosexuals are not the only ones that have children in Asbury Park, 
the majority of children in the at-risk proposed area around the Mission seem 
to belong to heterosexual parents.   

Please ask the families over here how they feel about the prospect of sex 
offenders and felons around the corner from where their children play due to 
Market Street's decision not to perform the most minimum efforts to ensure 
their children's safety and I am sure that you will here those deafening 
heterosexual voices against the mission.

Respectfully,
Tom



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[AsburyPark] Re: fighting a mission is a futile action

2006-07-08 Thread wernerapnj
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 Frank,
 With all the same due respect...if the Lighthouse Mission didn't 
 discriminate against against gay men, would there still be a Stand Up 
 For Asbury Park coalition fighting their move into Asbury?
 Thanks,
 Dennis

I think you ment to write 'Market Street Mission'.

Werner






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