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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must concede Daniel, you seem to know a good deal on many subjects, > and express ideas very well. Very impressive fellow. You know what they say, "jack of all trades, master of none." Or as my wife and daughters concede, a vast repository of useless information. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I must concede Daniel, you seem to know a good deal on many subjects, and express ideas very well. Very impressive fellow. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan, > > > > Thank you for the excellent response. > > You are quite welcome. It was quite a turning point in my life to > recognize how insiduous anti-judaism is in Christianity (you have to > read Constantine's Sword by an ex-priest no less). It ALMOST made me > lose my faith. However, putting it into context, I have remained a > practicing Catholic, although because of many things, including being > in real estate, I consider myself an honorary Jew (no offense > intended). In fact, I suspect that I come from a long line of schmatta > salesmen (no kidding) and that my surname is a derivative of the > Italian word for the yellow star that Jews had to wear in Europe in the > 15th-16th centuries. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > Thank you for the excellent response. You are quite welcome. It was quite a turning point in my life to recognize how insiduous anti-judaism is in Christianity (you have to read Constantine's Sword by an ex-priest no less). It ALMOST made me lose my faith. However, putting it into context, I have remained a practicing Catholic, although because of many things, including being in real estate, I consider myself an honorary Jew (no offense intended). In fact, I suspect that I come from a long line of schmatta salesmen (no kidding) and that my surname is a derivative of the Italian word for the yellow star that Jews had to wear in Europe in the 15th-16th centuries. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Before Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was decapitated by his Muslim abductors who videotaped the atrocity, he was compelled to say with his last breath, "My mother is a Jew. My father is a Jew. I am a Jew." Every Jew should embrace his or her identity with pride and vote their conscience. I remain a Democrat, but have supported candidates from other parties when my conscience so dictated. So let me now proclaim, "My mother of revered memory was a Jew. My father of revered memory was a Jew. I am a Jew." In this case, proper use. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I see. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Heshy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's quite simple, really. "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is an adjective. > When "Jew" is used as an adjective, it is derogatory, e.g. Jew > couple, Jew nose, Jew businesses, etc. > > ~Heshy > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > > question and I'm trying to learn. > > > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of > me "He > > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > > not really one. > > > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert > Klein > > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of > the "Jewish" > > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > > Jewish is not? > > > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I > worship > > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
It's quite simple, really. "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is an adjective. When "Jew" is used as an adjective, it is derogatory, e.g. Jew couple, Jew nose, Jew businesses, etc. ~Heshy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > question and I'm trying to learn. > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > not really one. > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert Klein > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of the "Jewish" > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > Jewish is not? > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Dan, Thank you for the excellent response. I think we had this discussion a while back. Heshy I think covered it as well. I do get annoyed to some extent when "jew" is used versus "jewish"- and I'm not religious. I could here my grandmother saying the word "Gentile". To me, it meant non-jew. (I can say that.) Good job, Dan. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > not really one. Technically it is not. However, the word Jew, used by a gentile has more often than not been used in a derogatory (cheap jew, dirty jew, etc.). Certainly it is quite alright to say someone is a Jew when describing their religion, but my experience is that it has been used (for two millenia) by goyum in a negative way. I always had a reluctance to use the word Jew (to a Jew) till about 18 years ago when an older friend of mine (who is a Jew) said that it was okay to say Jew when not meant derogatory. But where do you draw the line? Do you know how inbred anti-Judaism (the vestibule of anti-semitism) is in Gentiles? It is so ingrained that most of us don't realize it. Pick up and read a copy of James Carroll's Constantine's Sword. Its an eye opener. So, it is quite different to ask someone are you a Jew earnestly and another thing to write "Jew Couple" to identify them on their check. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Certainly wasn't my intention to offend, JJ. Questions aren't always hidden arguments; sometimes it is someone seeking to be taught something, so they can better understand the world in the future. Some might say that communication that leads to a better underdstanding of each other will bring us closer together (crazy, huh! Let's just stay polite and at a distance instead). I guess the waitress never gets to learn why she was wrong. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "jerseyjohn99" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good question, and I'll try to give my interpretation. > > When discussing religion, I'm Catholic and my wife & kids are > Jewish. (darn, I gave away the answer to the psychic waitresses). I > consider religious beliefs an adjective, not a noun. So I don't > consider myself A Catholic. (heck...neither do most Catholics). > > I'd probably be offended if someone referred to my kids as "Jews", > but honestly religion rarely comes up in polite conversation. > > Next time I'm with my in-laws & want to bring up a sore subject that > will offend all involved, I'll keep this one in mind. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > > question and I'm trying to learn. > > > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of > me "He > > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating > I'm > > not really one. > > > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert > Klein > > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of > the "Jewish" > > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > > Jewish is not? > > > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I > worship > > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The > > Jews > > > > have > > > > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i > > > would > > > > not > > > > > be offended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > > > > - > > -- > > > -- > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > > > > Shore > > > > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which > > listed > > > > their > > > > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple. "The Restuarnt let this bad habit > > > > > > habit happen of letting wait write what they what on checks instead > > > > > > of table number which would Some much Easier.I was Wrong they > > > > > > should be sued know they fired the girl what about the bartenders > > > > > > that wrote slurs.This goes to show you I was right about what goes > > > > > > on behind those doors in that kitchen area you would really be > > > > > > surprise.Ther alot more people eating out today buying prepared > > > > > > food they there was 10 -20 years ago.Both parents working to pay > > > > > > the bills.The restaurant should be sued.It was in the Asbury Park > > > > > > Press today they let wait staff write what they what on checks. Waitress should sue the Restaurant improper training.Alot owners just wha tmake that $ the easiest way they can. James Grabe __ Working in Food service 20 plus years I don't see what the Restaurant owners did wrong here the girl wrote the words on the the check.I am sure they had a training session when she started & that was included that is something she did on her own.You be surprise what goes on behind those doors in kitchens where you eat I walk out of many turn several restaurants & supermarkets in to the B.O.H. & Had Congressman Holt bring a letter I wrote suggesting to make Chefs,Managers more resoniable & pay fines to the local B.O.H to the 107th Food Debate in Congress.I work in places to where they: > > (1) they smoke a cigartte while preparing your salad. > > (2) Prepared the food on a monday put in the walk-in ref.hold until say wed. > or thur.& put that date on it when it goes out in display case. > > (3) I even had a place that kept the rost. chicken hot overnight so it could > come off the bone easier the next day to make chix salad there suppose to be > using chix. breast. > > (4) dishwashers cutting chix breast at the endof where the dishes come out. > > (5) illeginal alliens working there sending 90 per-ent of the money back to > the country they come from.Not paying any taxes. > (6) non washing of hands after smoking & handling of money money is the > dirtyest thing that come into a food service business alot of differant hands > touch it. > They can sue her but not the restaurant.In my eyes.Know some of these things > I mention can get a person sick.And can be bad for your health you should be > able to sue for that.If done on a daily basis they the owner,managers,chefs > would have to know.I had a Food Serice Sergeant in Cooking School in the Army > tell use in 1980 10 to 20 years from know there will be new diseases out some > from food because of 2 reasons Lazy & uneducated people in Food Service was > in write ? Maybe there just looking for money. > James Grabe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Good question, and I'll try to give my interpretation. When discussing religion, I'm Catholic and my wife & kids are Jewish. (darn, I gave away the answer to the psychic waitresses). I consider religious beliefs an adjective, not a noun. So I don't consider myself A Catholic. (heck...neither do most Catholics). I'd probably be offended if someone referred to my kids as "Jews", but honestly religion rarely comes up in polite conversation. Next time I'm with my in-laws & want to bring up a sore subject that will offend all involved, I'll keep this one in mind. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > question and I'm trying to learn. > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > not really one. > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert Klein > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of the "Jewish" > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > Jewish is not? > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Skip just forget it. I should have know you weren't mature enough to handle a subject like this. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one > finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or > should I say Jewish guy?)." > > First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with > The Fishman. > > I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate insult with the > word Jew; no such niceties like go round up a few hundred thousand > persons of the Jewish faith. > > Maybe you can answer this one; how can born-again Christians accuse > Jews of killing Christ when he and all Christians were Jews for 300 > years after his death. > > > " why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one > finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or > should I say Jewish guy?)." > > First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with > The Fishman. > > I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate insult with the > word Jew; no such niceties like go round up a few hundred thousand > persons of the Jewish faith. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > > question and I'm trying to learn. > > > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He > > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > > not really one. > > > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert Klein > > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of the "Jewish" > > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > > Jewish is not? > > > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship > > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
" why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?)." First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with The Fishman. I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate insult with the word Jew; no such niceties like go round up a few hundred thousand persons of the Jewish faith. Maybe you can answer this one; how can born-again Christians accuse Jews of killing Christ when he and all Christians were Jews for 300 years after his death. " why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?)." First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with The Fishman. I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate insult with the word Jew; no such niceties like go round up a few hundred thousand persons of the Jewish faith. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious > question and I'm trying to learn. > > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He > is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm > not really one. > > I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert Klein > or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of the "Jewish" > word because he was proud to be called Jew. > > Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but > Jewish is not? > > I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship > a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious question and I'm trying to learn. Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a Catholic" I'd be OK with that because I am. If someone said of me "He is Catholic-ish" I might be insulted, like they are insinuating I'm not really one. I once heard someone on TV talk about this. It was either Robert Klein or Ed Koch. They wanted to start a movement to get rid of the "Jewish" word because he was proud to be called Jew. Any thoughts to educate me on why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The > Jews > > > have > > > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i > > would > > > not > > > > be offended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > > > - > -- > > -- > > > > > > > --- > > > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > > > Shore > > > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which > listed > > > their > > > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > > __ > > > > > Working in Food service 20 plus years I don't see what the Restaurant > > > > > owners did wrong here the girl wrote the words on the the check.I am > > > > > sure they had a training session when she started & that was included > > > > > that is something she did on her own.You be surprise what goes on > > > > > behind those doors in kitchens where you eat I walk out of many turn > > > > > several restaurants & supermarkets in to the B.O.H. & Had > > > > > Congressman Holt bring a letter I wrote suggesting to make > > > > > Chefs,Managers more resoniable & pay fines to the local B.O.H to the > > > > > 107th Food Debate in Congress.I work in places towhere they: (1) they smoke a cigartte while preparing your salad. (2) Prepared the food on a monday put in the walk-in ref.hold until say wed. or thur.& put that date on it when it goes out in display case. (3) I even had a place that kept the rost. chicken hot overnight so it could come off the bone easier the next day to make chix salad there suppose to be using chix. breast. (4) dishwashers cutting chix breast at the endof where the dishes come out. (5) illeginal alliens working there sending 90 per-ent of the money back to the country they come from.Not paying any taxes. (6) non washing of hands after smoking & handling of money money is the dirtyest thing that come into a food service business alot of differant hands touch it. They can sue her but not the restaurant.In my eyes.Know some of these things I mention can get a person sick.And can be bad for your health you should be able to sue for that.If done on a daily basis they the owner,managers,chefs would have to know.I had a Food Serice Sergeant in Cooking School in the Army tell use in 1980 10 to 20 years from know there will be new diseases out some from food because of 2 reasons Lazy & uneducated people in Food Service was in write ? Maybe there just looking for money. James Grabe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
I did not go back of course but many of my friends are attorneys and situations like that are clearly defamation of character- I'm just not the lawsuit type but I heard from a friend who works outs at the JCC in Deal knows this couple and they are going after them full force, it's ashame they couldnt even have a nice evening out , maybe servers should go to etiquette classes. especially in that place In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On what grounds are they going to sue? > After the bartender wrote slut(or whatever) on your bill you go back > to the place?? Why don't you sue? Or don't you have grounds to sue? > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in > > childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and > > immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a > > certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like > slut > > and dirty) go figure, on one of the reciepts I even tipped this > > server $5.00 on a $9.00 bill, > > Do to the fact that they barely had their liquor licensed renewed > > and already have pending lawsuits they should learn to behave > > appropriatly. Clearly I feel this couple should sue the pants off > of > > the bar and Karina, it is ashame they had there night ruined and > > there dignity and pride bruised, I hope they get TONS!!! > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The > Jews > > > have > > > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i > > would > > > not > > > > be offended. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > > > - > -- > > -- > > > > > > > --- > > > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > > > Shore > > > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which > listed > > > their > > > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > > > > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress > > at > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
Where is this restaurant full of psychics? I want to see if they can guess my family's religion & ethnic origins. Yeah, and there's NO racism in Monmouth County...okay! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not > be offended. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > - > --- > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey Shore > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed their > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress at the > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
On what grounds are they going to sue? After the bartender wrote slut(or whatever) on your bill you go back to the place?? Why don't you sue? Or don't you have grounds to sue? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in > childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and > immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a > certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like slut > and dirty) go figure, on one of the reciepts I even tipped this > server $5.00 on a $9.00 bill, > Do to the fact that they barely had their liquor licensed renewed > and already have pending lawsuits they should learn to behave > appropriatly. Clearly I feel this couple should sue the pants off of > the bar and Karina, it is ashame they had there night ruined and > there dignity and pride bruised, I hope they get TONS!!! > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews > > have > > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i > would > > not > > > be offended. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > > - -- > -- > > > > > --- > > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > > Shore > > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed > > their > > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress > at > > the > > > > > > > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like slut and dirty) go figure, on one of the reciepts I even tipped this server $5.00 on a $9.00 bill, Do to the fact that they barely had their liquor licensed renewed and already have pending lawsuits they should learn to behave appropriatly. Clearly I feel this couple should sue the pants off of the bar and Karina, it is ashame they had there night ruined and there dignity and pride bruised, I hope they get TONS!!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting Sandy. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews > have > > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would > not > > be offended. > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > > --- -- > > > --- > > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey > Shore > > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed > their > > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress at > the > > > > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
Interesting Sandy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not > be offended. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > By LEELA de KRETSER > > - > --- > > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey Shore > > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed their > > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress at the > > > > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not be offended. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By LEELA de KRETSER > - --- > /August 17, 2005/ -- Two diners on a date at a fancy Jersey Shore > restaurant were furious when they saw the check which listed their > table as that of the "Jew Couple." > > Brooklynite Elliot Stein says he was shocked that a waitress at the > Parkhill's Waterfront Grill in Allenhurst printed the slur... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: from todays NY Post
It gets even better, "We are a family restaurant, and we welcome everybody," she said, adding that the words "Jew Couple" were never intended to be derogatory. "We use it as a form of identity," she said. She would not elaborate on what the restaurant does when there is more than one couple assumed to be Jewish at the restaurant. I guess my check would say, short, bald italian guy. I always meant to go in there to eat. This time I am wearing a yarmulke and "payess." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
