Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
Say if one comes from Jamaica? Are they still African American? - Original Message From: Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 12:30:46 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday For what it's worth, it's not blacks it's African Americans. And it's not Mexicans it's hispanic. Many of the hispanic people in our country come from other places other then Mexico. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I'm not concerned that there is no opportunity for them in Mexico. I'm concerned about perserving opportunity for poor Blacks in America. Give me a break! Whatever problems/obstacles there are for poor blacks (God bless you kind Bawana) has nothing to do with illegal immigration. I have not seen any Mexicans putting them out of work. There is plenty of blame to go around for the failures of our inner cities; to all sides. It has nothing to do with illegal immigration. That's a lame excuse. Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
Maureen. Re: The point here is that the police are finally arresting and publishing the names of johns. This is the best tactic they could take. Every guy who thought about coming to Asbury Park to score with a prostitute is going to think twice about it. You dry up the business and the supply goes elsewhere to seek their market. It worked! 18 in one afternoon - probably the tip of the iceberg! The above is one point I don't remember anyone disagreeing with. Did I miss it? Nice work Mark Kinmon and Chris Van Buren! Ditto! (But I'm not a Ditto Head! )
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
On Jun 17, 2007, at 10:58 PM, justifiedright wrote: The answer was assimilation. I don't recall them demanding any street signs, applicaitions or 411 calls in yiddish. Once again, I'll stand beside Tommy on an issue most people probably wouldn't believe a liberal would stand beside a conservative. I look at it this way. We have had waves of immigration from Germans, from Italians, from Chinese and other nationalities. The difference is that the current wave is simply not assimilating in any way of the previous waves. And for good reason. As Tommy points out, it's easy to have 1 or 2 million Germans or Italians learn the language but when you have 10-20 million of a different language come over at the same time there is less reason to assimilate - especially when we run ads in print and tv in Spanish and allow businesses like bodegas to be completely in Spanish. This is far different from having a Chinatown that's a block long. Belmar, just ten years ago, didn't have a single bodega. We now have 3 within a 5 block area. I have nothing against that (and personally love Spanish food); however, I do think America would be better off having an official language as I do see many problems for the country in the next 5-10 years and I don't see the assimilation or desire to be part of the melting pot that previous immigration waves showed. This immigration wave is very different. If you don't believe that, please show me a part of America where my German ancestors still speak solely German. I doubt there is such a place.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: 18 Johns arrested in AP yesterday
In a message dated 6/15/2007 11:24:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No one is suggesting that people be encouraged to enter the country illegally. However, this country, including its government, citizens and business leaders, have to stop being two-faced on the immigration issue. Businesses are encouraged and permitted to attract illegal immigrants. While there are laws the penalize companies for employing illegals, they are simply a slap on the wrist. If you really want to stop it, then throw the employer in jail instead of fining him. The father of one of my daughters students just got deported for being undocumented. That is the correct term, not illegal. So now the mother is stuck here with her many children, all of whom were born in this country, without support. BTW, the husband has never been in trouble with the law and works. A century and more ago, American businesses advertised for workers in Europe. That is how many of us came to be. America has an historic love affair with cheap labor. I am not condoning the johns' actions, although I certainly can sympathize with some of their likely plights of being in a strange country all alone without a mate after working who knows how many hours all to send some money home. Prostitution is a problem here in AP for other reasons. The insanity of making it illegal. Will we never learn? Ah! The beauty and courage of thoughtful comments on complex issues. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
