Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I agree Tommy. I think this is clearly a victory for those who wish to see more tourism/entertainment in the plan. It's kind of funny seeing the same people who boasted about the success of their residential plan ideas now boasting about the success of the tourism angle... I think the hotel could be a much better success than people are thinking. There are VERY FEW hotels along the shore of Monmouth County these days. The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has plenty of cars there. Let's say the new hotel advertises on a similar national/regional level - that would bring people back to Asbury and back into looking at hotel prices in the area which could lead to more visitors at the other hotels as well. If marketed correctly, people that were planning on coming to a town like Belmar (maybe for the Seafood Festival) might stay in Asbury rather than a hotel in Wall. Hotels are needed to make the tourism idea work and the existence of a new hotel would also force the idea of entertainment into play. On Jun 13, 2007, at 6:53 PM, justifiedright wrote: I'm with you, Chuck. The division here was always between the people that like the current residential plan and the people that wanted a mixed use with more tourism/entertainment thrown in. This latest development is a turn toward the tourism side. I expected this news to be heralded here as a victory for the tourism/entertainment folks.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
OceanPlace also does tons of those home shows and business conferences to get people year round. I agree that the Berkeley will most likely start advertising on a good scale, but so far the two hotels seem to rely on the word of mouth more than anything. The Berkeley seems to do well with weddings and stuff. I can't see why a new hotel wouldn't be a success. People seem to forget all of the uses that a hotel has and the advantages of a hotel by the beach are enormous. Imagine: 1) weddings 2) business conferences 3) beach and summer travelers 4) event goers spending the night for concerts 5) the simple addition of being the newest hotel (and most likely the most state-of-the-art, clean, nice features, etc.) There's more than enough reasons for it to be a success imo. On Jun 15, 2007, at 12:55 PM, oakdorf wrote: The only hotel that I've seen advertise on a decent level is the Ocean Place in Long Branch and that always has plenty of cars there. Ocean Place is booked from June 15 to labor day. They cater to their clients from NY/Brooklyn.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
In a message dated 6/13/2007 2:56:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ON the Carosouel the BEST PR they could ever do would be to put the horses back in the Casino. Ties for 5 Stars! (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database?query=mariosubmit=Searchmethod=reportRowstbl=3) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
Why are you fixated on that? I was the one that said MM wanted it reopened. That's what I was told, if it's changed or misinformation than so be it. Fixated on it? Hmm, all right. Whatever information you were told, you were heart set on it being true. - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
Charlie you are not considering the Big Picture. For a Hotel to function there must attractions that would require overnight stays. The current plan is a RESIDENTIAL USE based plan not a destination tourism plan. It would not be prudent to construct a Hotel with no market for its use. We already have 2 hotels that are underutilized. (BCH and Empress) Werner That's true. However, the new BCH owners must have some high hopes in mind. Why else would they buy a hotel in such an area, if there were no need for it? I don't think they'd be willing to put all that money into it if the end result were not in their favor. I think the Empress is pretty busy on weekends thru-out the summer, due to people coming in to attend club Paradise. The plan is residential mostly, but we do have the entertainment zone. More retail stores then anything, but theres got to be something else there that would attrack people? Why else would they want put a hotel into the plan in the first place? Sometimes they may not be the brightest on obvious issues, but they do know some things? What happened to the whole visitors coming to the city for a weekend to shop, eat, walk the beautiful boardwalk? These were all ideas that were posted a few months ago, reasons why people would want to come stay in the city. Did the people that said these ideas change their minds? Or did they forget what they had said? A nice get away place for a weekend. Also, this may be far fetched, but arn't hotels places for people to stay? How do the hotels on highway 35 stay open? Just becasue a hotel is on the shore in AP, doesn't mean the people staying have to stay within the square mile of AP!! A hotel on the Jersey Shore is a good thing, there are lots of places and beaches in the surrounding area also. It would be good to have them say, I'm staying at in AP Makes AP more visiable on the map again. Also, since they'd be staying right on the beach in AP, i'm sure theyd venture outside and see what's out there. - Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
the horses back in the casino is also the CHEAPEST PR one could ask for. From other posts, you know i'd like seeing the carousel back in the building. It would be good marketing, but what is it marketing? I don't think thats the image they want to attrack to that buildnig, or area at all! Food courts and markets dont mix with the types of things associated with carousels - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
In a message dated 6/13/2007 6:38:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do the hotels on highway 35 stay open? Just becasue a hotel is on the shore in AP, doesn't mean the people staying have to stay within the square mile of AP!! Good point. I'm assuming those hotels exist because there's a market for a lot of men and women here on business. But those boxes have a sterile look and feel. No vibes, no views. Get them here to rooms with a view, some salt air, and a world of possibilities within blocks. grin ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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In a message dated 6/13/2007 6:42:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It would be good marketing, but what is it marketing? Whatever it is it's what draws crowds year after year to Ocean Township's Italian Festival, even though they have the same ol' corny stuff year after year. People don't seem to tire of it. (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database?query=mariosubmit=Searchmethod=reportRowstbl=3) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
Right, thats along the lines of what i was saying. Hotels in general stay in business becasue people go places and sometimes need places to stay. Wouldnt you rather have them staying in AP then on highway 35? Although, i guess a hotel on 35 would most likely run cheaper then one on the beach in AP. Or anywhere for that matter. But the point i was trying to make was clear i think. Years and years ago, when Ap and Ocean grove were more similar, do you think anyone ever stayed in an hotel in Ap, then walked over to Ocean grove? Historic Ocean grove, right next to AP. I'm sure people would stay in hotels in AP if they were visiting OG. OG fills up fast in the summer. Hotels attrack people to the area. That's a very good thing. Even when you stay a motel or hotel, you dirve around seeing what there is to do around you, or whats near by. Gee, if your hotel is right in the middle of Ap, then you may have found something! Perhaps next time, you'd come back, but for the purpose of being in the cool beach town you've discovered. How do the hotels on highway 35 stay open? Just becasue a hotel is on the shore in AP, doesn't mean the people staying have to stay within the square mile of AP!! Good point. I'm assuming those hotels exist because there's a market for a lot of men and women here on business. But those boxes have a sterile look and feel. No vibes, no views. Get them here to rooms with a view, some salt air, and a world of possibilities within blocks. grin - Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
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Whatever it is it's what draws crowds year after year to Ocean Township's Italian Festival, even though they have the same ol' corny stuff year after year. People don't seem to tire of it That's true. But you don't see people looking for a hotel in Ocean to be there for the fair do you? haha. People from the surrounding areas come to Ocean for the fair. They know its there, so if they want to, they go. AP has a beach and a big boardwalk. A boardwalk that will hopefully have cool things on it in the future. That's enough of a reason alone to go! Look at somewhere like Point pleasent, what's there? If you take away the boardwalk, rides, stores and food... whats left? There is a dowtown area, but it's not much. The boardwalk and it's attractions along are enough to bring in a lot of people! Anything you add to that is bonous. Ap has the Convention hall, Casino, and Paramount. Were already ahead! Just make sure the boardwalk and what's on it is good, and people will migrate all over. - Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I'm agreeing with you. Point is that a carousel would be very appropriate again. IMO Casino location's better than between pavilions. Could be integrated with the proposed market. Just glad there seems to be excitement and energy again. In a message dated 6/13/2007 9:27:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whatever it is it's what draws crowds year after year to Ocean Township's Italian Festival, even though they have the same ol' corny stuff year after year. People don't seem to tire of it That's true. But you don't see people looking for a hotel in Ocean to be there for the fair do you? haha. People from the surrounding areas come to Ocean for the fair. They know its there, so if they want to, they go. AP has a beach and a big boardwalk. A boardwalk that will hopefully have cool things on it in the future. That's enough of a reason alone to go! Look at somewhere like Point pleasent, what's there? If you take away the boardwalk, rides, stores and food... whats left? There is a dowtown area, but it's not much. The boardwalk and it's attractions along are enough to bring in a lot of people! Anything you add to that is bonous. Ap has the Convention hall, Casino, and Paramount. Were already ahead! Just make sure the boardwalk and what's on it is good, and people will migrate all over. Mario Sunset Avenue _Click here: AsburyParkGLH : Records_ (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyParkGLH/database?query=mariosubmit=Searchmethod=reportRowstbl=3) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Madison Marquette Answers to Your Questions
I'm agreeing with you. Point is that a carousel would be very appropriate again. IMO Casino location's better than between pavilions. Could be integrated with the proposed market. Just glad there seems to be excitement and energy again. I know what you're saying. The carousel should go inside the building it has alwasy been in. People WANT to see it there. It would create much needed hype for the entire project i think. But, if we can't get it back in there... then i guess we can't. I just hope the market doesn't spread into that area too. i'd rather see a bar in there, with stairs going upstairs somehow, to the posiable music venue upstairs in the Casino? Who knows! I get mixed feelings when i hear a posiable farris wheel or caarousel being placed in some of the grassy areas between the pavillions. It doesn't sound real to me. But, we will see what happens - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
