[Assam] Football -culture of power; moral police
http://www.thezonelive.com/zone/public/6/schoolHome.asp check the handbook to see that even in the US there are dress codes --not just in Indian Univs (some of them) (page 16) as many on AssamNet regret all the time about Moral Police in Univ admin. Even in Vancouver, Canada where I was till exactly one year ago Sep 30, 2006 for my visa- there was a dress code (I think) despite the www.ubc.ca being right above the biggest nudist beach (clothing optional) in the world. UBC is ranked higher than IITs. Today saw the the first football match (US style) of my life in the field of Fairfax High School. Many of my students study there as did an ex-roommate (he studied there for 3 months, before that he was at Winston Churchill High in Potomac,Maryland statte 20 miles away and the previous three months of 11 grade at a Chennai high school in India. No wonder he dropped out of college. http://www.fcps.edu/FairfaxHS/ Today I found that despite a dismal performance on home turf ( 0 - 35 on last count - I left 8 minutes earlier) the school has a Nobel Laureate as an alum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_C._Mello That made it a unique school. The football game was very slickly organized complete with those seeking elections in senate etc distributing leaflets and even mini footballs for free. The school band and cheerleading are nationally ranked - as per some drunk grownups who chose to sit behind me and spoke in a common DC accent who made it more interesting by constantly deriding the school football team and praising the rival team. I dared not clap for the winning rivals -of Centerville High-since noone else was. The digital scoreboard seemed better than India's top stadium one's and the astro turf was great giving the field a stylish look. I saw a couple of my students in the band and one in the audience. They have 8-9 such football games per year - which rival the annual functions in Indian schools - butthis is only for football - they perhaps have simliar ones for other sports - baskeball court seemed superb (indoors). No wonder they have to be on their toes to keep up in studies. In summers band practice is 5 hours all weekdays etc. If nothing else sports is a great place for bonding. All my great friends are those who studied and also played on school fields. My Harvard sponsor's younger brother was my running partner (8 miles daily on the road in army cantt near my house -we kept it up for atleast a month). My Harvard sponsor still runs two marathons a year atleast at Los Angeles. You gain superb confidence even if you lose the game/competition. The bookworms lose out in the end??? Umesh Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 26, Issue 58
With due respects to all, it is extremely ironic and slightly funny that we are debating on the usage of English language in India and using English as the medium for it. I have no clue where this 1.5 % of population in India speak English came from but what I can tell you definitely is that studies conducted by the British Council and various Management surveys in India are of the firm view that India would be having the highest English speaking population in the world by 2010. And as Manojda pointed out, it is going to be the universal language in the Global Village called Planet Earth. China and Russia have started looking at English in their primary schools. The harsh reality in India now is that to become a salesman in a decent shop or to work even in a parlour in any metro you need to know English. The rest of the qualifications.well they dont even look at them while hiring. The Outsourced business which is pumping dollars into the Indian economy is the best examplethe housekeeping staff in many of these places know English,and yes you have our own Assamese guys and girls there too. The greatness about Indian culture is that it can absorb anything that comes whether it is language, culture, people, Indianise them and at the same time ensure that the culture remains intact. Hey I used the word Indianise, is it there in the English language...probably no not at this moment of time, but its just a matter of time before we see it in the Oxford dictionary. arindam garg --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send assam mailing list submissions to assam@assamnet.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of assam digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy (Manoj Das) 2. Re: Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy (Ram Sarangapani) 3. Re: Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy (Manoj Das) From: Manoj Das [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:04:17 +0530 Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Ramda Rajenda et al.. Why we have taken to learning English language in India, apart from the reasons mentionedl: 1. this is the best river to gain entry into the ocean of knowledge ; 2. if at all we have to learn a language of others; get the best in world; which is not pure bred like the French; As for me I learned the first A B C Ds in class IV in high school. The teachers were awfully unequipped. There was a rumour in Class -VI that we will have the option to completely avoid English, 99% of the students were very very happy. When I took admission in PU(Science) at Cotton College, again I had the option to take either Assamese or English medium. Our teacher KD Krori sir told us: Those who want to become Doctors, Engineers, Scientists should opt for English, it will be easier later. And I don't regret now. i am learning the language daily. It's neither local, nor foreign, it's the WORLD LANGUAGE, and we cannot wish away that. Two banes are going to be boons for India 1. The English language 2. The population. regards to all -manoj On 9/29/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ram: If you insist to know my views: English is a foreign language in India because: 1) It is not rooted in India. 2) There is nothing Indian about it except the fact the middle class Indians use it to overcome the difficulty of their too many languages. 3) It was never a language in India during the last 5000 years of India's history except during the British colonial rule. 4) We even cannot say that we have been using this language for 100 years even by the middle class. 5) It can be compared only to Persian language which was also at one time imposed as a court language in India during the Moghol rules and which is dead in India now. 6) Even today, even after 100 years, it is spoken in India by only 1.5% of Indians (quoted from email net - less than 1.5% of the population actually have proficiency in it-KC.) 7) Nobody in India, even the majority of middle class Indians like you, would consider English as an Indian language. and many more. Indians always need something 'foreign' to rule themselves: the Aryans, the Rajputs, the Afghans, the Moghuls, the British, and now the English language. BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. Thanks Barua - Original
[Assam] Patricia Mukhim to be Guest of the Mont h
---BeginMessage--- Attention the members and well wishers of Guwahati Press Club. Dear friends, Here is a small news item for your information and use. Regards Nava Thaukira, Secretary, GPC. *Padmashri Patricia Mukhim to be 'Guest of the Month' * * * *GUWAHATI:* Padmashri Patricia Mukhim will attend the Guest of the Month programme of Guwahati Press Club on September 30 at 2 pm. The interested member-journalists are requested to attend the programme to interact with the social activist-cum-columnist. *Profile of Patricia:* A well-known name in Meghalaya, she is a writer of repute. She has an advantage of being a teacher and a journalist. She is deeply involved in the social uplift activities of the Meghalaya people. At the age of 42, she was conferred with Chameli Devi Jain Award given to an outstanding women mediaperson in 1995 by the media foundation, New Delhi. She was also conferred the most prestigious honour Padmashri by the President of India in 2000. Her experiences in conflict management, consumer rights, issues of corruption, gender sensitization and focus on rural poverty is well recognized. Currently, she is serving as Director of Indigenous Women's Resource Centre, Shillong. She is a social science researcher, particularly of the Khasi matrilineal society and its transition over the years. She campaigned actively and relentlessly for ending militancy in the region, apart from working in the drug addiction problem amongst the youth of Meghalaya. She talks with authority on diverse topics such as work culture, women in development, youth as agents of change etc. in various media like TV and Radio. She has attended many international conferences in countries like Japan, Thailand, Hawaii, Switzerland, Palestine, Israel, North and South Korea, UK, and the African countries. ---End Message--- ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans. That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic. Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times articles from yesterday (Sept. 28th) and also about Mulayam Singh Yadav and his comments. Anyway --- I have totally lost interest in the topic by now. Thanks --Ram On 9/28/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com wrote: Ram: If you insist to know my views: English is a foreign language in India because: 1) It is not rooted in India. 2) There is nothing Indian about it except the fact the middle class Indians use it to overcome the difficulty of their too many languages. 3) It was never a language in India during the last 5000 years of India's history except during the British colonial rule. 4) We even cannot say that we have been using this language for 100 years even by the middle class. 5) It can be compared only to Persian language which was also at one time imposed as a court language in India during the Moghol rules and which is dead in India now. 6) Even today, even after 100 years, it is spoken in India by only 1.5% of Indians (quoted from email net - less than 1.5% of the population actually have proficiency in it-KC.) 7) Nobody in India, even the majority of middle class Indians like you, would consider English as an Indian language. and many more. Indians always need something 'foreign' to rule themselves: the Aryans, the Rajputs, the Afghans, the Moghuls, the British, and now the English language. BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy We can start with a definition of the word 'foreign' looking at a dictionary Why look into a dictionary? I think most of us know what foreign and what native means? The dictionary is not going to tell me anything different. and see if we can call 'English' a foreign language or a native language. You were the one who claimed it is a foreign language. So, before we put this into a plebicite of sorts, I wanted to know why you call it foreign. I said it is not a foreign language in India, and I gave netters a few reasons. There are many more. I hope you will provide us some reasons why you claim it is foreign. Once you are able to do that, we can go from there.:) --Ram On 9/28/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com wrote: We can start with a definition of the word 'foreign' looking at a dictionary and see if we can call 'English' a foreign language or a native language. Next we can take the opinions of the general Indian public in India whether general Indians think English language is foreign or not.. Those will be my two starting points. What do you say? Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Barua, I will let Alpana put forth her own defenses :), and just to make it clear this is not a husband-wife tag team ::) Ram's weak defense as English not being a foregn language also falls pathetically into the same catagory. Why do you think my defense is weak and can you cite a few reasons why English is foreign, and we will go from there. --Ram On 9/28/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com wrote: A/ What you are trying to say is this: Although what you are saying seems to be true, but I am not going to acknowledge it as truth, because if I remember you said somthing in the past in some other
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
America was founded by the Europeans. When they came they brought not only the European languages but also the European religions and cultures. Thus Christianity as well as Englsih and all other European languages are brought from Europe which make the big Western culture now. Red Indian culture has been wiped out for all practical purposes. Thus it is irrelevant to say that English language and Christianity are foreign to America. Because these were there from day one of American modern history. In America it is the mother tongue of the huge majority population. It is true that in America both Christianity as well as the English language had undergone much change. It is often said that America and England are two countries separated by one language. In case of India, it is a different ball game. The English people did not establish the Indian culture. A foreign language, English, was given to the Indians only about a hundred years ago. No Indians had any roots in English language. The British left but the Indians stuck to their language and many other English items (like Cricket, Democracy, our dress, educational institutions, civic laws etc). It is true that we are trying our best to Indianise the language so much so that it is often called Hindlish and not English. Even now there is a strong section of Indians who are opposed to Hindlish. (as well as the others). Even now English is considered a foreign language by a strong section of the Indian population. I would say in another hundred years probably Hindlish will penetrate more to the Indian culture. But I donot think it will ever go the Indian lower class; it will remain a middle class language of communication. It is probably now 20/30% Indians who speak Hindlish. May be in another hundred years, it will be 30/40% may be. But it will never be the mother tongue of any sizable section of Indians. The very fact that you, Ram and others feel offended when I point out, like a sizable section of Indians, that English is a foreign language goes to prove how much we Indians depend on Hindlish, how we Indians love Hindlish. Probably Ram and you are right. Probably, we can say of Hindlish, like the game of Cricket, is an Indian item. But we should be ready to admit that these are imported items given to us by the British. We should feel bad about it. In fact one great quality of us the Indians, unlike the Chinese, is the quality to absorb foreign things like sponge absorbs water. In the ancient times also, we absorbed many foreign elements, like idol worship, astrology etc. Rajen Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans. That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic. Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times articles from yesterday (Sept. 28th) and also about Mulayam Singh Yadav and his comments. Anyway --- I have totally lost interest in the topic by now. Thanks --Ram On 9/28/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com wrote: Ram: If you insist to know my views: English is a foreign language in India because: 1) It is not rooted in India. 2) There is nothing Indian about it except the fact the middle class Indians use it to overcome the difficulty of their too many languages. 3) It was never a language in India during the last 5000 years of India's history except during the British colonial rule. 4) We even cannot say that we have been using this language for 100 years even by the middle class. 5) It can be compared only to Persian language which was also at one time imposed as a court language in India during the Moghol rules and which is dead in India now. 6) Even today, even after 100 years, it is spoken in India by only 1.5% of Indians (quoted from email net - less than 1.5% of the population actually have proficiency in it-KC.) 7) Nobody in India, even the majority of middle class Indians like you, would consider English as an Indian language. and many
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
Bengali is probably the only other Indian language which has Global recognition ... I would say, sure; Bengali language has global recognition by the Bengalis. Did you know that in many parts of Bangaldesh, Bhutan and Burma, people speak Assamese? Thus Assamese also has global recognition by the Assamese. That however does not make any change of the status. Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy There have been enough flamewars in this forum over language so I would not jump into it . However, you might find it interesting to know that apart from Hindi and Urdu, Bengali is probably the only other Indian language which has Global recognition not because of India but because it is the national language of Bangladesh. In fact I found quite a few Bengali books and movies in Boston Public Library ! I think instead of Hindi, Govertnment of india better to declare Bengali as official language of India. Infact, if GOI able to declare it as global langauge it is even better. What do you think Mr. Sandip dutta! SANDIP DUTTA pseude at yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I think because language is involved, people get more touchy. But you can look at it in another way. In private sector companies, many a times mgmt brings in standards or practices that have to be adopted whether a section of people like it or not. Eg. GE insists that all its employees have to be Six-Sigma quality certified. Many dont understand what it is and others dont appreciate the relevance of it to their work. But GE nevertheless insists and enforces it. So forcing down something may not always be a problem but could be an oppurtunity as well. It depends how one looks at it. Also I am not speaking for the entire community, but you will have to appreciate that the younger generation is far more open to Hindi than the earlier one. Rgds, Sandip - Original Message From: muktikam phukan muktikamp at yahoo.co.in To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam at assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:32:35 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Dear Sri Dutta Because I m in a Govt PSU, I seen the forcible push to make Hindi Our Language. Thats why I said, don't speak for the whole assamese community. U'll be in a minority. Regards Muktikam SANDIP DUTTA pseude at yahoo.com wrote: Dear Mr. Phukan, If the deputy director of a Govt owned PSU does not recognize Hindi as the national language inspite of its official status, then its pointless to continue debating further. Best wishes. Rgds, Sandip - Original Message From: muktikam phukan muktikamp at yahoo.co.in To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam at assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Dear Sri Dutta I am with a PSU. But here ends the debate. Because u recognise Hindi as a National language and I don't. For me its just another Modern Indian Language spoken predominantly in North India. Regards Muktikam Phukan Deputy Director (NR) Petroleum Conservation Research Association Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066 Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385,Res: +91 120 2452892,Mob: +91 9818598565 email: phukanm at pcra.org , muktikamp at yahoo.co.in SANDIP DUTTA pseude at yahoo.com wrote: Because its the national language. When you say Hindi Fortnight, I assume you are in a Government Job ? Rgds, SD - Original Message From: muktikam phukan muktikamp at yahoo.co.in To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam at assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:41:27 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Dear Sri Dutta Learning new languages is definitely good. No question about that. But why specifically HINDI ? I don't see any reason behind that. Regards Muktikam SANDIP DUTTA pseude at yahoo.com wrote: I am not supposed to equate - but why? And Assam and Hindi heartland are different culturally and linguistically - is that an excuse for not picking up a new language? Rgds, Sandip - Original Message From: muktikam phukan muktikamp at yahoo.co.in To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam at assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:49:17 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Yes Mr Dutta. I'd rather do business in English all the time than using Hindi in Office. Only in times like Hindi Fortnight do I use Hindi. I am not ashamed of admitting it. And pl don't equate with things back home as regards 'Hindi'.
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
We should feel bad about it. Correction: We should NOT feel bad about it. The Chinese donot feel bad when they say that Buddhism is a foreign religion imported to China from India. So the Japanese. Barua - Original Message - From: barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy America was founded by the Europeans. When they came they brought not only the European languages but also the European religions and cultures. Thus Christianity as well as Englsih and all other European languages are brought from Europe which make the big Western culture now. Red Indian culture has been wiped out for all practical purposes. Thus it is irrelevant to say that English language and Christianity are foreign to America. Because these were there from day one of American modern history. In America it is the mother tongue of the huge majority population. It is true that in America both Christianity as well as the English language had undergone much change. It is often said that America and England are two countries separated by one language. In case of India, it is a different ball game. The English people did not establish the Indian culture. A foreign language, English, was given to the Indians only about a hundred years ago. No Indians had any roots in English language. The British left but the Indians stuck to their language and many other English items (like Cricket, Democracy, our dress, educational institutions, civic laws etc). It is true that we are trying our best to Indianise the language so much so that it is often called Hindlish and not English. Even now there is a strong section of Indians who are opposed to Hindlish. (as well as the others). Even now English is considered a foreign language by a strong section of the Indian population. I would say in another hundred years probably Hindlish will penetrate more to the Indian culture. But I donot think it will ever go the Indian lower class; it will remain a middle class language of communication. It is probably now 20/30% Indians who speak Hindlish. May be in another hundred years, it will be 30/40% may be. But it will never be the mother tongue of any sizable section of Indians. The very fact that you, Ram and others feel offended when I point out, like a sizable section of Indians, that English is a foreign language goes to prove how much we Indians depend on Hindlish, how we Indians love Hindlish. Probably Ram and you are right. Probably, we can say of Hindlish, like the game of Cricket, is an Indian item. But we should be ready to admit that these are imported items given to us by the British. We should feel bad about it. In fact one great quality of us the Indians, unlike the Chinese, is the quality to absorb foreign things like sponge absorbs water. In the ancient times also, we absorbed many foreign elements, like idol worship, astrology etc. Rajen Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans. That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic. Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times articles from yesterday (Sept. 28th) and also about Mulayam Singh Yadav and his comments. Anyway --- I have totally lost interest in the topic by now. Thanks --Ram On 9/28/07, Rajen Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com wrote: Ram: If you insist to know my views: English is a foreign language in India because: 1) It is not rooted in India. 2) There is nothing Indian about it except the fact the middle class Indians use it to overcome the difficulty of their too many languages. 3) It was never a language in India during the last 5000 years of India's history except during the British colonial rule. 4) We even cannot say that we have been using
[Assam] Musical Instruments
Hi All: Could anyone tell me the way to find out what type of musical instruments are used in the Indian movie songs? Is there such a site or a book that lists the instruments used in the musicals, including the classical numbers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. - A. Sarangapani Spring, Texas. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmkt=en-us___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Musical Instruments
Dear Alpana, In my internet site www.indiawijzer.nl http://www.indiawijzer.nl/ I have a section on: Indian music and dance. -- If click this link it would lead you to the index Indian classical music, dance and musical instruments. -- This link will lead you to the webpage's on Indian Classical Music Instruments, Unfortunately the text is in Dutch as the information of this section is meant for the Dutch school children. But you will get the images and the name of the instrument. Moreover at the start you will get a link to the site of Chandrakant and at end you will get a link to Tarang. These sites are in English. Greetings, Wahid da _ Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Alpana B. Sarangapani Verzonden: zaterdag 29 september 2007 21:50 Aan: assam@assamnet.org Onderwerp: [Assam] Musical Instruments Hi All: Could anyone tell me the way to find out what type of musical instruments are used in the Indian movie songs? Is there such a site or a book that lists the instruments used in the musicals, including the classical numbers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. - A. Sarangapani Spring, Texas. In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass - Lakshmana _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspx mkt=en-us ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Yoga heals ??? Harvard, Duke, , Columbia , Boston U - Oprah
http://www.oprah.com/health/omag/health_omag_200710_yoga_101.jhtml Depression Low brain levels of the neurotransmitter GABA are often found in people with depression; SSRIs, electroconvulsive therapy, and now yoga, it seems, can boost GABA. Preliminary research out of the Boston University School of Medicine and Harvard's McLean Hospital found that healthy subjects who practiced yoga for one hour had a 27 percent increase in levels of GABA compared with a control group that simply sat and read for an hour. This supports a growing body of research that's proving yoga can significantly improve mood and reduce the symptoms of depression and anxiety. Heart Disease Several trials have found that yoga can lower blood pressure, cholesterol, and resting heart rates, and help slow the progression of atherosclerosisall risk factors for heart disease, says Erin Olivo, PhD, director of Columbia University's Integrative Medicine Program. While almost any exercise is good for the heart, experts speculate yoga's meditative component may give it an extra boost by helping to stabilize the endothelium, the lining of the blood vessels that, when irritated, contributes to cardiovascular disease. Since the lining is reactive to stress, and meditation can lower stress hormones, yoga may be causing a cascade of events that could reduce your risk of a heart attack or stroke. Breast Cancer Research is becoming clear on this: Women who do yoga during and after treatment experience less physical discomfort and stress. Earlier this year Duke University scientists reported results of a pilot study in which women with metastatic breast cancer attended eight weekly yoga sessions. The doctors found that the women had much less pain and felt more energetic and relaxed. Menopause A preliminary study at the University of California, San Francisco, found that menopausal women who took two months of a weekly restorative yoga class, which uses props to support the postures, reported a 30 percent decrease in hot flashes. A four-month study at the University of Illinois found that many women who took a 90-minute Iyengar class twice a week boosted both their energy and mood; plus they reported less physical and sexual discomfort, and reduced stress and anxiety. Chronic Back Pain When doctors at the HMO Group Health Cooperative in Seattle pitted 12 weekly sessions of yoga against therapeutic exercises and a handbook on self-care, they discovered the yoga group not only showed greater improvement but experienced benefits lasting 14 weeks longer. A note of caution: While many poses are helpful, seated postures or extreme movement in one direction can make back pain worse, says Gary Kraftsow, author of Yoga for Wellness, who designed the program for the study. Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Musical Instruments
Hello! You can check out this site: www.binaswar.com It's an instrument manufacturer's website, but the instruments are pictured according to family (strings, wind instruments, etc.) and there are audio samples so you can look at the picture and hear the sound of the instrument at the same time! Good luck! Rehanna From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Assam] Musical Instruments Hi All: Could anyone tell me the way to find out what type of musical instruments are used in the Indian movie songs? Is there such a site or a book that lists the instruments used in the musicals, including the classical numbers? Any help would be greatly appreciated. - A. Sarangapani Spring, Texas. “In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass” - Lakshmana Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Indian Political Boundary
In a federalistic system, the state decides how it wants to run its business -- right? In a few years states like Texas, Florida and Arizona will see Hispanic population as the majority, with Spanish used as the other language for running official business definitely, and may be other businesses too if they turn out to be import/export only. If the majority in a state decides to use Spanish for its business, won't the citizens of that state need Spanish to get ahead? In India, Hindi is spoken by more and more Indians. When I lived in India it was rare to find a person in the South speaking Hindi. When I interact with Indians working with us on global projects, I find even Indians from the South speak fluent Hindi. Where they learnt I don't know and I don't know if they were forced to learn. Dilip Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is slowly changing and clash of linguistic groups is bound to happen. *** Does that mean that unless an American learns Spanish, she might not be able to get ahead when that time arrives? *** And to extend the logic, will one have to learn Hindi to get ahead in India pretty soon, unless it is already so? At 12:39 PM -0700 9/28/07, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote: If you leave out the Hispanics, you can say it is one language in USA. As we all know, USA will have to face the issue of two rival languages very soon. Also USA does not have an official language. The reign of English as the language is due to the fact that all immigrants had to learn the language to get ahead. It is slowly changing and clash of linguistic groups is bound to happen. Dilip barua25 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is all one mother tongue, one language here. Not like India as a whole administered by a foreign language: English. Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty To: Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 9:12 AM Subject: [Assam] Indian Political Boundary Rajen-da First India was never such a big united country as it is now. Applying this logic, even US should be termed as a country that was never expected to ever be a country. Apart from European colonization the wars, grabbing of land from Native Americans and Speniards continued till late 19th century (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA#Native_Americans_and_European_settlers). Same goes true for Canada (even may be Australia). First India was never such a big united country as it is now. Even during the British Raj, there were many many independepdent states ruled by Maharajas, where prsent India is. Second, the South was never under any Indian kings except to some extent under the Moghols. * The map I see in wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurya_dynasty) shows that almost entire south barring present TN and Kerala was under Mauryas. Coming to point of Assam, Kamrup historically had a very close tie with rest of India ... reference Mahabharat. Culturally too, think about Krishna -- Kalika Purana mentions that the last of the Naraka-bhauma rulers, Narak, was slained by Krishna. As for never being ruled by any Indian King, the argument is same as I mentioned for US or Canada or many other countries. The Indian situation is same. It is one country because of one foreign language: English. Thus the historians have a point. Today, take away the English language fron India, the Indian democracy will collapese overnight. * This is a very new argument ... never heard this argument earlier! How many people in villages of India do you think can speak English ... I am not talking about proficient but at least Pigin English? A guess will be less then half of Indian Population speaks English. People adapt languages because of convenience. Imagine, had you been a villager of Assam, would you care to learn English? Or say if you spend most of your life in Delhi or UP, can you avoid learnig Hindi even though you might be a Hindi hater? The issue under discussion is : India is the country that was never expected to ever be a country. The above point which some historians are trying to make is this. First India was never such a big united country as it is now. Even during the British Raj, there were many many independepdent states ruled by Maharajas, where prsent India is. Second, the South was never under any Indian kings except to some extent under the Moghols. Then the Marathas were also out. Old Kamrup, that is present Assam and NE were never under any Indian kings, nor under Ashok, nor under the Guptas, nor under the Moghols. This came under India only under the British. Today India is one country not because of any unity but because of its diversity which cannot be defined under any political science. Imagnice Europe under one country because of one foreign language (say) Hindi. Can one imagine? The Indian situation is same. It is one country because of one foreign language: English. Thus the
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. *** It would be absurd only to those who are unable to deal with reality. Had it not been for the British colonial enterprise, there would NOT be any India. And Indians today would not be able to communicate with each other without English, and thus pretend it is a nation. India is united Heh-heh At 6:30 PM -0700 9/29/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Rajenda, What you mean is had Indians been anihilated by British then English could have been considered as a Native Language for India ! I have no qualms if you consider English as a foreign/Indian language whatsover but to say that just because of English is an absurd logic. As far as absorption goes, in current world it is a universal phenomenon ... even Chinese are now learning English bigtime. America was founded by the Europeans. When they came they brought not only the European languages but also the European religions and cultures. Thus Christianity as well as Englsih and all other European languages are brought from Europe which make the big Western culture now. Red Indian culture has been wiped out for all practical purposes. Thus it is irrelevant to say that English language and Christianity are foreign to America. Because these were there from day one of American modern history. In America it is the mother tongue of the huge majority population. It is true that in America both Christianity as well as the English language had undergone much change. It is often said that America and England are two countries separated by one language. In case of India, it is a different ball game. The English people did not establish the Indian culture. A foreign language, English, was given to the Indians only about a hundred years ago. No Indians had any roots in English language. The British left but the Indians stuck to their language and many other English items (like Cricket, Democracy, our dress, educational institutions, civic laws etc). It is true that we are trying our best to Indianise the language so much so that it is often called Hindlish and not English. Even now there is a strong section of Indians who are opposed to Hindlish. (as well as the others). Even now English is considered a foreign language by a strong section of the Indian population. I would say in another hundred years probably Hindlish will penetrate more to the Indian culture. But I donot think it will ever go the Indian lower class; it will remain a middle class language of communication. It is probably now 20/30% Indians who speak Hindlish. May be in another hundred years, it will be 30/40% may be. But it will never be the mother tongue of any sizable section of Indians. The very fact that you, Ram and others feel offended when I point out, like a sizable section of Indians, that English is a foreign language goes to prove how much we Indians depend on Hindlish, how we Indians love Hindlish. Probably Ram and you are right. Probably, we can say of Hindlish, like the game of Cricket, is an Indian item. But we should be ready to admit that these are imported items given to us by the British. We should feel bad about it. In fact one great quality of us the Indians, unlike the Chinese, is the quality to absorb foreign things like sponge absorbs water. In the ancient times also, we absorbed many foreign elements, like idol worship, astrology etc. Rajen Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans. That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic. Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times articles from yesterday (Sept. 28th) and also about Mulayam Singh Yadav and his comments. Anyway --- I have totally lost interest in the topic by now. Thanks --Ram On
[Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
May be I am wrong. My knowledge is based on news reports and interactions with Chinese Co-workers here in US Please check http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20216718/site/newsweek/ It says In China alone, some 175 million people are now studying English in the formal education system. And an estimated 2 billion people will be studying it by 2010, according to a British Council report last year. . reported by Western Press NOT Indian Press ! even Chinese are now learning English bigtime. Not My Physical Experience at Beijing,Shanghai,Hangzhou and the Yangtze Delta's booming Industrial Centres-- in last 2 years. You do NOT need English(or smatterings by rickshaw wallahs) for Progress! Mother-tongue is OK. You do need EFFECTIVE leadership.India lacks/lacked THAT. Bengal Democracy-this link-is not sure about Bangla/Hindi/English except that they want all the best from all fronts. Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=summer+activities+for+kidscs=bz ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi-Bengal democracy
I would say, sure; Bengali language has global recognition by the Bengalis. Did you know that in many parts of Bangaldesh, Bhutan and Burma, people speak Assamese? Thus Assamese also has global recognition by the Assamese. You missed the point. Bengali has global recognition NOT by Bengalis but by other countries . Nothing special but just because it happens to be National language of a Country. If tomorrow Assam get that illusive Sovereignty, Assamese will also be added to that list you probably just got one more reason to ask for Sovereign Assam :) As I mentioned, the Boston Public Library (maintained by Americans NOT Bengalis) include quite a few Bengali books along with Hindi, Urdu (courtesy Pakistan) and Tamil (courtesy Sri Lanka). BTW, It is something new for me that in parts of Bangladesh, Bhutan and Burma people speak Assamese. Interesting info. Can you share some more details on this please? Bengali is probably the only other Indian language which has Global recognition ... I would say, sure; Bengali language has global recognition by the Bengalis. Did you know that in many parts of Bangaldesh, Bhutan and Burma, people speak Assamese? Thus Assamese also has global recognition by the Assamese. That however does not make any change of the status. Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy There have been enough flamewars in this forum over language so I would not jump into it . However, you might find it interesting to know that apart from Hindi and Urdu, Bengali is probably the only other Indian language which has Global recognition not because of India but because it is the national language of Bangladesh. In fact I found quite a few Bengali books and movies in Boston Public Library ! I think instead of Hindi, Govertnment of india better to declare Bengali as official language of India. Infact, if GOI able to declare it as global langauge it is even better. What do you think Mr. Sandip dutta! Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
even Chinese are now learning English bigtime. Not My Physical Experience at Beijing,Shanghai,Hangzhou and the Yangtze Delta's booming Industrial Centres-- in last 2 years. You do NOT need English(or smatterings by rickshaw wallahs) for Progress! Mother-tongue is OK. You do need EFFECTIVE leadership.India lacks/lacked THAT. Bengal Democracy-this link-is not sure about Bangla/Hindi/English except that they want all the best from all fronts. mm Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:30:11 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, What you mean is had Indians been anihilated by British then English could have been considered as a Native Language for India ! I have no qualms if you consider English as a foreign/Indian language whatsover but to say that India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. As far as absorption goes, in current world it is a universal phenomenon ... even Chinese are now learning English bigtime.America was founded by the Europeans. When they came they brought not only the European languages but also the European religions and cultures. Thus Christianity as well as Englsih and all other European languages are brought from Europe which make the big Western culture now. Red Indian culture has been wiped out for all practical purposes. Thus it is irrelevant to say that English language and Christianity are foreign to America. Because these were there from day one of American modern history. In America it is the mother tongue of the huge majority population. It is true that in America both Christianity as well as the English language had undergone much change. It is often said that America and England are two countries separated by one language.In case of India, it is a different ball game. The English people did not establish the Indian culture. A foreign language, English, was given to the Indians only about a hundred years ago. No Indians had any roots in English language. The British left but the Indians stuck to their language and many other English items (like Cricket, Democracy, our dress, educational institutions, civic laws etc). It is true that we are trying our best to Indianise the language so much so that it is often called Hindlish and not English. Even now there is a strong section of Indians who are opposed to Hindlish. (as well as the others). Even now English is considered a foreign language by a strong section of the Indian population. I would say in another hundred years probably Hindlish will penetrate more to the Indian culture. But I donot think it will ever go the Indian lower class; it will remain a middle class language of communication. It is probably now 20/30% Indians who speak Hindlish. May be in another hundred years, it will be 30/40% may be. But it will never be the mother tongue of any sizable section of Indians.The very fact that you, Ram and others feel offended when I point out, like a sizable section of Indians, that English is a foreign language goes to prove how much we Indians depend on Hindlish, how we Indians love Hindlish. Probably Ram and you are right. Probably, we can say of Hindlish, like the game of Cricket, is an Indian item. But we should be ready to admit that these are imported items given to us by the British. We should feel bad about it.In fact one great quality of us the Indians, unlike the Chinese, is the quality to absorb foreign things like sponge absorbs water. In the ancient times also, we absorbed many foreign elements, like idol worship, astrology etc. Rajen Barua- Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans.That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic.Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue.It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times articles from yesterday (Sept.
[Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
Had it not been for the British colonial enterprise, there would NOT be any India. * Replace the word India with America or Canada or Australia and see how true it is !!! BTW, had there not been numerous aggresions (by Mughal, Brits etc) India would probably have been in a much larger country India is united Heh-heh Except for a couple of hundred terrorists and one or two NRAs, others agree ... India is United .. as I asked you earlier ... show me 10 prominent Assamese who are willing to separate from India... unfortunately you could not :( India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. *** It would be absurd only to those who are unable to deal with reality. Had it not been for the British colonial enterprise, there would NOT be any India. And Indians today would not be able to communicate with each other without English, and thus pretend it is a nation. India is united Heh-heh Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
What you mean is had Indians been anihilated by British then English could have been considered as a Native Language for India ! Don't try to twist meaning for nothing. It does not work that way. The British necver came to India to settle down like Europeans went to America to settle. They came to India to trade. to say that India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. Sorry I can't help it. That is the fact, India is a country united by the British with the English language. Rajenda - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 8:30 PM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, What you mean is had Indians been anihilated by British then English could have been considered as a Native Language for India ! I have no qualms if you consider English as a foreign/Indian language whatsover but to say that India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. As far as absorption goes, in current world it is a universal phenomenon ... even Chinese are now learning English bigtime. America was founded by the Europeans. When they came they brought not only the European languages but also the European religions and cultures. Thus Christianity as well as Englsih and all other European languages are brought from Europe which make the big Western culture now. Red Indian culture has been wiped out for all practical purposes. Thus it is irrelevant to say that English language and Christianity are foreign to America. Because these were there from day one of American modern history. In America it is the mother tongue of the huge majority population. It is true that in America both Christianity as well as the English language had undergone much change. It is often said that America and England are two countries separated by one language. In case of India, it is a different ball game. The English people did not establish the Indian culture. A foreign language, English, was given to the Indians only about a hundred years ago. No Indians had any roots in English language. The British left but the Indians stuck to their language and many other English items (like Cricket, Democracy, our dress, educational institutions, civic laws etc). It is true that we are trying our best to Indianise the language so much so that it is often called Hindlish and not English. Even now there is a strong section of Indians who are opposed to Hindlish. (as well as the others). Even now English is considered a foreign language by a strong section of the Indian population. I would say in another hundred years probably Hindlish will penetrate more to the Indian culture. But I donot think it will ever go the Indian lower class; it will remain a middle class language of communication. It is probably now 20/30% Indians who speak Hindlish. May be in another hundred years, it will be 30/40% may be. But it will never be the mother tongue of any sizable section of Indians. The very fact that you, Ram and others feel offended when I point out, like a sizable section of Indians, that English is a foreign language goes to prove how much we Indians depend on Hindlish, how we Indians love Hindlish. Probably Ram and you are right. Probably, we can say of Hindlish, like the game of Cricket, is an Indian item. But we should be ready to admit that these are imported items given to us by the British. We should feel bad about it. In fact one great quality of us the Indians, unlike the Chinese, is the quality to absorb foreign things like sponge absorbs water. In the ancient times also, we absorbed many foreign elements, like idol worship, astrology etc. Rajen Barua - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Rajenda, going by your logic, English is a foreign language in US too which was brought in by Europeans. That unlike India Native languages have been killed in US is a different topic. Opinions are never debatable! Facts are. Thanks Barua - Original Message - From: Ram Sarangapani To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy BTW I am not looking for an response on this from you. I think this is a waste of time even to debate on this issue. It truely is a colossal waste. Just to let you know, I didn't say what I said just because I felt like it, there were very valid reasons, and your foreign comment only triggered it. and nothing more. This is a hot topic in India today. If you are interested, you might want to look into the New York Times
Re: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy
BTW, had there not been numerous aggresions (by Mughal, Brits etc) India would probably have been in a much larger country The pre British aggresions took place only in the North West India , in Punjab upto Delhi. What prevented the rest of India to stand on its own? I can't understand why Indians always blame its own downfall on foreign aggtressions in the north. Why the Indian could not fight back? And the British never actually attacked India. The British were just happened to be there when India was falling apart-at least that is one way of looking at things. Read history. You must find your own answer what happened in Indian history. Rajenda - Original Message - From: Krishnendu Chakraborty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [Assam] Book review : India After Gandhi- Bengal democracy Had it not been for the British colonial enterprise, there would NOT be any India. * Replace the word India with America or Canada or Australia and see how true it is !!! BTW, had there not been numerous aggresions (by Mughal, Brits etc) India would probably have been in a much larger country India is united Heh-heh Except for a couple of hundred terrorists and one or two NRAs, others agree ... India is United .. as I asked you earlier ... show me 10 prominent Assamese who are willing to separate from India... unfortunately you could not :( India is united just because of English is an absurd logic. *** It would be absurd only to those who are unable to deal with reality. Had it not been for the British colonial enterprise, there would NOT be any India. And Indians today would not be able to communicate with each other without English, and thus pretend it is a nation. India is united Heh-heh Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
