Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
Krishnendu-da, While I would defend that India does not generate fools and US does not generate only geniuses I must admit that quality of India's govt run run schools can never be compared with US govt schools. 90% of USA's school students graduate from govt/public schools and the percentage of selection into top colleges is same for private or public schools. The top govt school in US is about 10 miles from where I stay is http://www.tjhsst.edu/ which sent about 10 students to Harvard (admission as tough as in IITs in India) quite similar to the success of students of top US private school Phillips Academy Andover http://www.andover.edu/ Charter schools are run by private non profits but funded by govt -less well funded that govt schools. Charter schools are successful since many govt schools -esp in poorer areas like everywhere else are not as competitive and effecient as they could be given the funds. Umesh At 6:29 AM -0700 10/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, ** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and have time, you can search web to find more such kids from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education You SHOULD NOT since you have no clue of today's India nor are you willing to learn Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty good it is NOT so for other states. It is analogous to blaming me because you wasted your money on gambling (or whatever may be) while you too had every opportunity to utilize your money fruitfully. In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well as in India not all US public/govt schools are the same. The Indian govt school my father studied at ( www.rimc.org ) sent a graduate to Harvard College recently (2002 I think) - an incentive for me to try the same. Similarly Kendriya Vidyalayas in India are central govt run schools and have sent graduates to IITs and beyond. In US as well schools in rich suburbs get upto 6 times more per student funding ($25,000 per year) as compared to those in innercity/urban schools ($6,000 per year) - hence it depends upon which neighborhood you are in . http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/18/a_nobel_champion_enters_fray/ Here is a take by Nobel Laureate Mello now in MA (who studied in Fairfax High School near my place ) on why he wants to put his children in private schools unless the local school district fund the local schools better - he wants to put his own Nobel prize money into it if need be - those in poorer neighborhoods in US cannot expect the same funds from local residents (as must be known nearly all funding for US govt schools comes from property taxes of that city. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High Sc That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Try it now.___
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
While I would defend that India does not generate fools and US does not generate only geniuses *** How very thoughtful! Set up a target that is absurdly low or absurdly high and then bring it down and establish your astuteness in being able to see thru it! At 11:01 PM -0700 10/2/07, umesh sharma wrote: Krishnendu-da, While I would defend that India does not generate fools and US does not generate only geniuses I must admit that quality of India's govt run run schools can never be compared with US govt schools. 90% of USA's school students graduate from govt/public schools and the percentage of selection into top colleges is same for private or public schools. The top govt school in US is about 10 miles from where I stay is http://www.tjhsst.edu/ which sent about 10 students to Harvard (admission as tough as in IITs in India) quite similar to the success of students of top US private school Phillips Academy Andover http://www.andover.edu/ Charter schools are run by private non profits but funded by govt -less well funded that govt schools. Charter schools are successful since many govt schools -esp in poorer areas like everywhere else are not as competitive and effecient as they could be given the funds. Umesh At 6:29 AM -0700 10/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, ** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and have time, you can search web to find more such kids from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education You SHOULD NOT since you have no clue of today's India nor are you willing to learn Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty good it is NOT so for other states. It is analogous to blaming me because you wasted your money on gambling (or whatever may be) while you too had every opportunity to utilize your money fruitfully. In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. umesh sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well as in India not all US public/govt schools are the same. The Indian govt school my father studied at ( www.rimc.org ) sent a graduate to Harvard College recently (2002 I think) - an incentive for me to try the same. Similarly Kendriya Vidyalayas in India are central govt run schools and have sent graduates to IITs and beyond. In US as well schools in rich suburbs get upto 6 times more per student funding ($25,000 per year) as compared to those in innercity/urban schools ($6,000 per year) - hence it depends upon which neighborhood you are in . http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/18/a_nobel_champion_enters_fray/ Here is a take by Nobel Laureate Mello now in MA (who studied in Fairfax High School near my place ) on why he wants to put his children in private schools unless the local school district fund the local schools better - he wants to put his own Nobel prize money into it if need be - those in poorer neighborhoods in US cannot expect the same funds from local residents (as must be known nearly all funding for US govt schools comes from property taxes of that city. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High Sc That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/
[Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
And it will prove WHAT? That Indian students do get the nurturing to be creative, inventive and break new ground as can be proven by-? Definitely not ! Definitely not! My apologies. But, but was it you who started this game of examples ? And YET, the Central Govt. has its own system, because ---? It has implicit in the state schools' quality ? Because it merely provides it as an example of its benevolence, setting a higher standard? Ram-da has already explained the reason WHY KVs exist Would you care to explain WHY in state teachers selection we always hear of corruption/bribery while this does not happen when teachers of KV are selected (even though the same Natives get selected in either case) ? *** Why? Does the Center NOT trust the QUALITY of state run schools? And WHAT percentage of the total seats are open to the natives? 90%, 60%, 25%, 10%, 1%? Had there been one single standard curriculum accorss India, the need for KV would not have been there. However, SOME states are not willing to go for a standard curriculum. Now what do you suggest ... GOI should force them ? For example, in KV, they teach logic gates in Std 11 . Under State, there is no logic gates even in B Sc. One of our professor in Cotton commented that Diod and Triod valves which are taught in B Sc (Physics Major) are Obsolete and they have tried to change the syllabus but then .. you know what . KV adopts a more practical oriented approach with Projects and lab work. In State (Assam), lab does not start until after 10 and Projects are unheard of. And WHAT percentage of the total seats are open to the natives? 90%, 60%, 25%, 10%, 1%? C'da are you really willing to know India or just shout without knowing anything. Unlike Engineering Colleges or Medical Colleges KV DOES not discriminate based on ethnicity NOR does it ask for a PRC. In our time over 70% students (as well as teachers) were Natives (born in Assam). You can go and find out if things have changed. And FYI GOI has also come up with Navodaya Vidyalayas (one in each district) which follows the same curriculum like KV. ARE part of the same school districts -- not Federally funded and controlled schools for the scions of colonial rulers, with a few crumbs set aside for the natives. There is a difference. Oh well !! So your heartburn is just because GOI funds it. Or is it because of your half-baked knowledge that GOI funded schools set aside a few crumbs for natives ?? I would best describe this as a ghetto mentality -- unwilling to be informed about the place where you were born, got your education Yes there is a big discrepancy --- between poor districts and the rich ones. One of the most visible inequities of LOCAL CONTROL of American schooling. So you agree --- a Rich and a Poor will NOT have EQUAL education in US :-) If so WHY would I point to public schools as having been the single largest producers of great and creative minds in America ? Wouldn't one want to know that? Unless of course one is so disoriented by one's need to assert a point, reason be damned. Again you FAILED to say WHY you sent your Children to Private Schools. As to why you praised Public Schools --- you will take up ANY argument to get a saddist pleasure of beating India. *** How very generous! Just so we can see things in perspective, what was the fee for Central Employees? And pray WHO makes up the And what is the earnings of an Average American ... the public school here DOES NOT charge any fee. Damn if you do it , damn if you don't. Now that is an original and creative construct, nothing less than what could be expected from a Kendriya Vidyalay alumnus. Your style of hitting the person when you have no more arguments. This clearly reflects your mentality Do we have a clue to what we are quarreling about here? Reminds me of Aesop's fable --- American -- Indian Education system is damned --- No Creativity Indian -- But we do have ... see so many Indians shining in the world A-- Oh ... they are so just because they came out of India I-- But then they had over 16 years of education in India A -- So what ... see our example (shows one example) I -- Here is our example (shows seven examples) A -- Just 7 from a country of 1 billion ... what do you prove I - But you showed just 1 !! A -- Hey ... your guys are all from Private School (Note the shift in Argument -- Creativity to Public/Private) I -- No ... there are from Public School too A -- Why should there be a GOI funded public school (shift in argument -- who funds the school) I -- But then , these schools has more local students then students of other regions A --- Damn your arguments --- Indian Education System is bad, bad, bad just because I say so (even though I benefitted from it). RIP no more comments And YET, the Central Govt. has its own system, because ---? It has implicit in the state
[Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, ** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and have time, you can search web to find more such kids from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education You SHOULD NOT since you have no clue of today's India nor are you willing to learn Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty good it is NOT so for other states. It is analogous to blaming me because you wasted your money on gambling (or whatever may be) while you too had every opportunity to utilize your money fruitfully. In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. What is it about Central employees that deserve such special care, while the rest don't? Colonialism is what comes to mind. Another good example of your KNOWLEDGE of India. While KV gives priority to transferrable employees, it is open to others as well. My parents were NOT Central (or even State) Govt employee but I studied in KV anyway ... you always Know Better. BTW, many educationists want GOA to adopt KV education pattern but again GOI cannot force it. Where our children went to school is our business. It has nothing to do with why quality of PUBLIC EDUCATION, one of the highest priorities of any nation. Perfect. I have no issues if you pay tens of thousand dollars to send your child to Private School. But then Indian Education is OUR business ... NOT your. Let us assume they went to some highly exclusive private schools, because we could afford it. Should that mean that those who could not afford it did not deserve an equally high quality schooling? If you had EQUALLY HIGH QUALITY in Public school, you WOULD NOT have sent your kid to Private School. And since you sent your children to Private School it shows that you DO NOT TRUST on quality of Public Schools in US BTW, the fees in KV used to be Rs5 (waived for economically poorer section) when I was a student. If things have not changed it is still in same range. it still has produced some of the nation's most important and most creative personalities and contributed to its advancement. Shawnee Mission East High School is a good example. Similarly KV is a good example As you said earlier . you are quarreling for the sake of quarreling making yourself look bad Out of the seven kids, ONE, was from Kendriya Vidyalay, a public institution, but a highly PRIVILEGED one. While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education from the example of seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, one can reasonably conclude that the example of these kids cited are an extraordinary exception, not the norm by a long shot. Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? What is it about Central employees that deserve such special care, while the rest don't? Colonialism is what comes to mind. Where our children went to school is our business. It has nothing to do with why quality of PUBLIC EDUCATION, one of the highest priorities of any nation. Our circumstances dictated where we sent our kids to school. Let us assume they went to some highly exclusive private schools, because we could afford it. Should that mean that those who could not afford it did not deserve an equally high quality schooling? While it is a well-known fact that American public schooling leaves a lot to be desired, it still has produced some of the nation's most important and most creative personalities and contributed to its advancement. Shawnee Mission East High School is a good example. At 2:37 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: There goes your knowledge about India :) Kendriya Vidyalaya (first link) is a Central Govt School fully funded by GOI and spread accross all over India (including NE). And with some more research you will be able to find out other achivements of students of Kendriya Vidyalaya ... if you are really interested. BTW, did your children attend a public school or a private school ? If Private school, why? If not, the same question remains ... why do many Americans send their children to highly expensive Private School? That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School,
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). And it will prove WHAT? That Indian students do get the nurturing to be creative, inventive and break new ground as can be proven by-? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty goodit is NOT so for other states. And YET, the Central Govt. has its own system, because ---? It has implicit in the state schools' quality ? Because it merely provides it as an example of its benevolence, setting a higher standard? Or that it does not trust the state systems and therefore devised its own, funding it adequately and managing it with able people---for the benefit of ALL? Do we have a clue to what we are quarreling about here? In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. Yes there is a big discrepancy --- between poor districts and the rich ones. One of the most visible inequities of LOCAL CONTROL of American schooling. Charter schools were created to MITIGATE the effects of such inequities. And they ARE part of the same school districts -- not Federally funded and controlled schools for the scions of colonial rulers, with a few crumbs set aside for the natives. There is a difference. While KV gives priority to transferrable employees, *** Why? Does the Center NOT trust the QUALITY of state run schools? And WHAT percentage of the total seats are open to the natives? 90%, 60%, 25%, 10%, 1%? Perfect. I have no issues if you pay tens of thousand dollars to send your child to Private School. But then Indian Education is OUR business ... NOT your. Are these two issues COMPARABLE ? Would anyone with even a rudimentary ability to reason equate the two? If you had EQUALLY HIGH QUALITY in Public school, you WOULD NOT have sent your kid to Private School. And since you sent your children to Private School it shows that you DO NOT TRUST on quality of Public Schools in US That is a half-a**ed conclusion at best. But let us assume that that is what is ALL about, that there could not possibly be other factors, or reasons ( not everyone is endowed with ordinary amount of reasoning ability after all). If so WHY would I point to public schools as having been the single largest producers of great and creative minds in America ? Wouldn't one want to know that? Unless of course one is so disoriented by one's need to assert a point, reason be damned. BTW, the fees in KV used to be Rs5 (waived for economically poorer section) when I was a student. Ifthings have not changed it is still in same range. *** How very generous! Just so we can see things in perspective, what was the fee for Central Employees? And pray WHO makes up the DIFFERENCE between the fee generated and the expenses incurred. Pardon me for asking such a silly question though. In my ignorance I might be overlooking the fact of the staff not taking any salaries, providing public service out of their own good will, while the premises and the utilities are gifts of the gods. As you said earlier . you are quarreling for the sake of quarreling making yourself look bad Now that is an original and creative construct, nothing less than what could be expected from a Kendriya Vidyalay alumnus. At 6:29 AM -0700 10/2/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, ** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and have time, you can search web to find more such kids from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education You SHOULD NOT since you have no clue of today's India nor are you willing to learn Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty good it is NOT so for other states. It is analogous to blaming me because you wasted your money on gambling (or whatever may be) while you too had every opportunity to utilize your money fruitfully. In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. What is it about Central employees that deserve such special care, while the rest don't? Colonialism is what comes to
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
And YET, the Central Govt. has its own system, because ---? It has implicit in the state schools' quality ? Because it merely provides it as an example of its benevolence, setting a higher standard? Or that it does not trust the state systems and therefore devised its own, funding it adequately and managing it with able people---for the benefit of ALL? C'da, You are reading way too much into what the Central Govt.is doing or not doing. First, there are 3 lists (if I remember the Indian Constitutions). They are the Central List, the State List, and the Concurrent List. Education happens to be on all three lists. One of the main reasons the state list has education is for individual states to be able to develop their own standards, and also in development of their literature and culture. Would you want it otherwise? Education in the central list is for the over all maintenance of educational standards of all states. The University Grants Commission is one such org. It sets standards and helps state institutions with grants and recognition. Institutions under the Center like the Central Schools were set up so that children of Central employees and military personnel are able to continue with the same instruction when parents are frequently transferred. Obviously, funding streams for state and Central institutions are different. Some states are able to manage their institutions, while others like Assam, want an old and well-respected institution like Gauhati University be taken over by the Center. Now, why is that. The State is trying to get the Center to take care of the finances of GU, so the state financial responsibility can be shifted. Now, you would blame the damn Center either way. If they did not take over an institution like GU, you might say - 'look, the Center is trying to take over an age old Assam Institution, blah, blah.. If the Center did not, you would claim benevolence, setting higher standards etc,etc. Because it merely provides it as an example of its benevolence, setting a higher standard? This is preposterous, someone complaining because the Center is trying to set a higher standard? Would you like it to emulate lower ones? And then you would moan and groan about the low standards of Indian institutions, their products, and how incompetent Indian education system is. As far as standards are concerned, states have the full control of their own institutions and have the ability to set higher standards (or lower, base-line ones). Who is stopping them? The Center? Then you would have explain how on earth they do it? A similar kind of system also exists in this country, which you already know about. If you want to compare US system with that of India, then it must be approached with the amount of $$ spent here per school/per student vs in India and what outcomes have resulted. I don't have the data at the tip of my fingers, but I am confident, that the amount of $$ spent per student is far, far greater than in India, and the rates of return are nothing to write home about (talking about schools not universities). --Ram On 10/2/07, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ** You wanted examples which I have provided (SEVEN against ONE which you cited). If you are willing and from India BOTH from public and private institution (as cited by Umesh). And it will prove WHAT? That Indian students do get the nurturing to be creative, inventive and break new ground as can be proven by-? Education is a matter of STATE Govt. While the Govt funded institutes in some states are doing pretty goodit is NOT so for other states. And YET, the Central Govt. has its own system, because ---? It has implicit in the state schools' quality ? Because it merely provides it as an example of its benevolence, setting a higher standard? Or that it does not trust the state systems and therefore devised its own, funding it adequately and managing it with able people---for the benefit of ALL? Do we have a clue to what we are quarreling about here? In US NOT all public schools are equal ... as I understand, some school districts are considered superior to others. So let us know why SOME schools do better then other schools. And then there are Charter Schools which get more funds. Yes there is a big discrepancy --- between poor districts and the rich ones. One of the most visible inequities of LOCAL CONTROL of American schooling. Charter schools were created to MITIGATE the effects of such inequities. And they ARE part of the same school districts -- not Federally funded and controlled schools for the scions of colonial rulers, with a few crumbs set aside for the natives. There is a difference. While KV gives priority to transferrable employees, *** Why? Does the Center NOT trust the QUALITY of state run schools? And WHAT percentage of the total seats are open to the natives? 90%, 60%, 25%, 10%, 1%?
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That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
[Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
There goes your knowledge about India :) Kendriya Vidyalaya (first link) is a Central Govt School fully funded by GOI and spread accross all over India (including NE). And with some more research you will be able to find out other achivements of students of Kendriya Vidyalaya ... if you are really interested. BTW, did your children attend a public school or a private school ? If Private school, why? If not, the same question remains ... why do many Americans send their children to highly expensive Private School? That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
Out of the seven kids, ONE, was from Kendriya Vidyalay, a public institution, but a highly PRIVILEGED one. While I am unwilling to pass verdict on the condition of Indian education from the example of seven kids out of a country of a billion people, knowing what I do, one can reasonably conclude that the example of these kids cited are an extraordinary exception, not the norm by a long shot. Why is it that Kendriya Vidyalays get special funding , special teachers, while the rest of the country has to make do with what they have to? What is it about Central employees that deserve such special care, while the rest don't? Colonialism is what comes to mind. Where our children went to school is our business. It has nothing to do with why quality of PUBLIC EDUCATION, one of the highest priorities of any nation. Our circumstances dictated where we sent our kids to school. Let us assume they went to some highly exclusive private schools, because we could afford it. Should that mean that those who could not afford it did not deserve an equally high quality schooling? While it is a well-known fact that American public schooling leaves a lot to be desired, it still has produced some of the nation's most important and most creative personalities and contributed to its advancement. Shawnee Mission East High School is a good example. At 2:37 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: There goes your knowledge about India :) Kendriya Vidyalaya (first link) is a Central Govt School fully funded by GOI and spread accross all over India (including NE). And with some more research you will be able to find out other achivements of students of Kendriya Vidyalaya ... if you are really interested. BTW, did your children attend a public school or a private school ? If Private school, why? If not, the same question remains ... why do many Americans send their children to highly expensive Private School? That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
really reads like a tale from who's who. star named after her by MIT and research on cancer and genital herpes. Congratulations to Nandini and all who supported her endeavors. Regards. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instru See : http://www.posoowa.org/2007/09/30/great-success-agreat-success-awaitsnandini-sarma-of-kansas/ ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High School Instruction
Well as in India not all US public/govt schools are the same. The Indian govt school my father studied at ( www.rimc.org ) sent a graduate to Harvard College recently (2002 I think) - an incentive for me to try the same. Similarly Kendriya Vidyalayas in India are central govt run schools and have sent graduates to IITs and beyond. In US as well schools in rich suburbs get upto 6 times more per student funding as compared to those in innercity/urban schools - hence it depends upon which neighborhood you are in . http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/03/18/a_nobel_champion_enters_fray/ Here is a take by Nobel Laureate Mello now in MA (who studied in Fairfax High School near my place ) on why he wants to put his children in private schools unless the local school district fund the local schools better - he wants to put his own Nobel prize money into it if need be - those in poorer neighborhoods in US cannot expect the same funds from local residents (as must be known nearly all funding for US govt schools comes from property taxes of that city. Umesh Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re: [Assam] From Posoowa--Example of Creativity in High Sc That was nice to note. One significant difference: All of the students from India are from Private Schools. Nandinee is from a public high school ( not like Indian Public School, as in Doon School etc.), Shawnee Mission East High School, Kansas. At 1:43 PM -0700 10/1/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote: Congratulations Nandini C'da, you might be interested in these too http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/21/stories/2007052104521300.htm http://www.educationuk.org/clubukindia/1/news_india_youth.html Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org Umesh Sharma Washington D.C. 1-202-215-4328 [Cell] Ed.M. - International Education Policy Harvard Graduate School of Education, Harvard University, Class of 2005 http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info) http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info) www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used ) http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ - Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
