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Hello C: All I wanted was to know from who else? *** Before you bank on what you perceive as your check-mate move, you, or anyone who is halfway sincere or informed , ought to examine where and how those voices could be aired. Tell me, C, if you wrote a letter to any newspaper in Assam , making a set of intellectual arguments (not a call for armed rebellion now--that would be a different issue) about why independence is essential for Assam to carve out its place in the community of nations, WHO would publish it? Or can you or anybody else, get the air time to express those views to the general public? Or for that matter, if you write a book and try to publish it, if anyone will? And if you had one printed, clandestinely, if anyone will sell it on the streets or book-stores of Guahati or anywhere else in Assam? *** I hope you know the answer. And in that context, can you or Ram or anybody else explain to us, if such refusal would be because none in Assam would want hear or read of it because of their devotion to Indian dependence and NOT out of a fear of retribution of the Indian state? *** So, the whole assertion that there is NO reasoned voice about an aspiration for independence is a myth, concocted by those who want NO change to the status-quo, which has served their lots well. It merely underscores the point, that a section of the populace has done very well--thanks to Indian government's policy of looting the people of the region and then redistributing portions of it to enrich a few. And why would that segment of the beneficiaries of this reverse Robinhood-ism of Indian governance, faithfully implemented by its local stooges, want the golden goose killed? *** When you or Ram and others declare that they and their kin do not want independence, what they really mean is that they do not want to upset the status quo from which they befitted. That they do not want changes to the system that has kept the people of Assam from seeking their place in the sun. Oh they go froth in the mouth complaining about it, and their hearts bleed about how vast segments of the people are left behind, except that they cannot or would not want any change to what has brought them where they are. *** I have heard all the protestations about how they all want change and reforms. They want corruption ended. They want better management of the state's resources. They want justice for all. They also have seen, for decades on end, how the Indian state and its proxies in the State Houses or the institutions of state are stuck in the mud,totally unable to demonstrate even a rudimentary amount of change, of reforms, of progress. Only problem here is thay are unable to reconcile the dichotomy. They are clueless. *** I hope you are not that clueless Chitta. If you or others can demonstrate that YES , reforms are possible, change is possible, able management of the state's resources for the benefit of all its people -- not just its privileged -- is possible, that Assam's ethnic, cultural, language and historical identity would not be obliterated under the prevailing Indian rule, you might be able to persuade me, and others like me, that perhaps Assam could do without independence. *** Now it is YOUR turn, and Ram's turn to put your money where your mouths are and show us! Mind you mere assertions are not good enough. Asking rhetorical questions about how Gujarat or Karnataka are doing better would be meaningless. You will have to show where and how change is taking place that Assam can bank on. Shall we? 1) 95% of people in the recent poll rejected ULFA rejected Swadhin Asom concept *** If this is the kind of thing you believe in, you must also believe in the tooth fairy. I am sure you present this not as a serious argument, but running short on facts throwing in whatever is available. Not b very thoughtful. Does not do anything to your credibility. Actually it damages it. 2) 30,000 people in Guwahati swayed to Bhupen Hazarika's We are not sessionist or something like that song at the National Games opening ceremony yesterday. *** I'll be danged! That does prove it all then Huh? Sorry C, I tried to control my acerbic side, but this is too much :-). m-da At 7:54 PM -0800 2/9/07, chittaranjan pathak wrote: Mahanta da Thanks-Tangentialy you answered my ACE question. But I stand vindicated because you were not able to point me towards any place , community, district, region in particular from where you hear the muffled cry for independence. Instead you pointed towards ULFA-is that a revealation to us? All I wanted was to know from who else? I never for once judged whether this wish, call, desire for freedom is just or unjust. All I wanted to know from you was whether in 2007 you believe majority still wants independence. I know you realise that most do not-all have become infidels with their minds fogged by pan-Indianess-except ULFA. But still there is a
Re: [Assam] Answers for Chitta-II
of the all-India political parties, even the regional political formations like the Asom Gana Parishad (AGP) or the AGP (P) are against the idea of a sovereign Asom. The AGP reiterated its stand against secessionism at its general body meeting in Guwahati on January 20, 2007. The partys well-known stand is that it wants a federal restructure of the Indian Union with maximum powers to the State. The All Assam Students Union (AASU), which has a strong command over the Asomiya opinion, has publicly stated its stance against a sovereign Asom. An angered ULFA has recently branded the AASU leadership as agents of the Indian State. AASU, on the other hand, criticises the Bangladesh-sheltered ULFA leadership for its silence over the influx of Bangla nationals in Asom. Another influential organisation, the Asam Jatiyatabadi Yuba-Chatra Parishad (AJYCP) also advocates more powers to the State, not sovereignty. The Asam Sahitya Sabha, which has been playing a pivotal role in shaping Asomiya national consciousness since its birth in the 19th century, is also against an Asom outside India. Sabha president Kanaksen Deka asserted at a Press meet in Guwahati on January 19, 2007 that Asom was, is and will remain an inseparable part of India. Except for a few die-hard pro-ULFA organisasions, no other mass organisation, student or youth organisation, trade union, peasant organisation or any other organisation worth the name has supported the sovereignty demand. Then who wants a separate sovereign existence outside India? It is only ULFA who does. It has every right to nurse a sovereign dream. Maybe, in its view, only a sovereign existence can ensure happiness and prosperity for the people of Asom. That is why it has jumped into a struggle for independence. But what is the nature of this struggle? Has it formed any mass organisation to go to the people to favourably influence their opinion and win their support? No, it hasnt. Theres no alternative to mass organisations to win mass support and persuade the people to join the fight for freedom. It uses bullets and bombs even to turn mass support in its favour. And this is exactly why it is terrorist. It uses terrorist methods to impose its will on the people. The call for boycott of National Games was one such instance. Lesser the public support, more are its terrorist activities. Some milestones of its freedom struggle are the mass grave at Lakhipathar, massacre of children at Dhemaji and killings of Hindi speaking labourers. It feels no qualms before planting bombs in public places. Then, what has happened to its war of independence? Mass support is a must for such a war. The State is not scared of guns not backed by mass support. Even these guns, it uses more often than not, against the unarmed civilians and not against the armed forces. Needless to say, there will be no freedom without mass support, no freedom can be achieved by avoiding war with the Army and killing the unarmed innocents. So, no astrology is required to safely predict that there is no future at all to ULFAs sovereignty demand. (Assam Tribune Editorial) - Original Message From: Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chittaranjan pathak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: assam@assamnet.org Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 1:55:36 AM Subject: Re: [Assam] Answers for Chitta-II Hello C: All I wanted was to know from who else? *** Before you bank on what you perceive as your check-mate move, you, or anyone who is halfway sincere or informed , ought to examine where and how those voices could be aired. Tell me, C, if you wrote a letter to any newspaper in Assam , making a set of intellectual arguments (not a call for armed rebellion now--that would be a different issue) about why independence is essential for Assam to carve out its place in the community of nations, WHO would publish it? Or can you or anybody else, get the air time to express those views to the general public? Or for that matter, if you write a book and try to publish it, if anyone will? And if you had one printed, clandestinely, if anyone will sell it on the streets or book-stores of Guahati or anywhere else in Assam? *** I hope you know the answer. And in that context, can you or Ram or anybody else explain to us, if such refusal would be because none in Assam would want hear or read of it because of their devotion to Indian dependence and NOT out of a fear of retribution of the Indian state? *** So, the whole assertion that there is NO reasoned voice about an aspiration for independence is a myth, concocted by those who want NO change to the status-quo, which has served their lots well. It merely underscores the point, that a section of the populace has done very well--thanks to Indian government's policy of looting the people of the region and then redistributing portions of it to enrich a few. And why would that segment of the beneficiaries of this reverse Robinhood-ism
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C'da Chitta, This is getting more interesting by the second. But I will let Chitta fend for himself (and has ably done so this far). Just wanted to touch on a small part, and then I will butt out. So why don't YOU raise your voice to put an end to that debate, by calling for a free and fair referendum after a period of unfettered and informed public debate and discussion? With the highly revered Election Commission with its stellar record at hand to guarantee the fairness of an outcome, what seems to be the problem :-)? Calls for a referundum are a common ploy by insurgents and those who think they are fighting for some noble cause. What they really want to do is to put the onus on the country. Its like saying - 'prove that I'am wrong'. Such a ref. would be great for insurgents - it shows that at last someone is paying attention to them, and also if such a thing is ever held, all they have to do is brandish their weapons, kill some who dare to stand up, and the rest of the people will fall in line and vote for the cause (or so they hope). The last thing anyone will see is a 'free fair' ref. You see it in Kashmir, and you see it in Assam. Now, why should a country try to prove anything to a group of insurgents, who possess only stolen money and guns (but no principles). And further, why should the country want to do that when (a) its against its constitution to give independence to some portion just because a group of wannabes want it ((b) No govt. in the state or Center has the right to give in to such a ref. as Assam is NOT their's to give away to insurgents. All Assamese want is that the Govt. fulfill its obligations to the state (which it hasn't done effectively for the past so many years). And this does not tantamount to seeking independence. (c) And lastly, and more importantly, most people in the state want to remain a part of India. --Ram On 2/9/07, Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi C: I changed the subject right back. The Minority Assamese smacks of a persecution complex based on ethnic,linguistic or cultural identity. For people like you or I, world-citizens, that would be a rather unbecoming complaint. We ought to pursue more relevant and concrete issues. No I don't think 'Answers for Chitta ' is at all personal. We have had many such discourses in assamnet in the past. But if it still bothers you, you are welcome to change it to something different. But let us not get into such things as Assamese ethnic persecution complex. We, the caste- Assamese, have little room to complain about that, if you know what I mean. Allow me to clarify a few of your misconceptions, before we get back to your questions. And I will continue to resort to cutting and pasting the questions to post my response, so that the reader, if there is any, can follow the context; in spite of your fears about it appearing too argumentative. I have no problems with that, if YOU don't. Bottom line is Mahanta da just because of I am based in Perth or you know my family or my immediate background , *** I don't know anything about you or yours. I don't need to. And I never would have asked the question, had you NOT prefaced your questions with: But not all of them-not the ones I know of.* As far as my relatives,* *friends, parents,brothers, numerous cousins spread all* *over Assam are concerned (and if you consider them my own* *people),freedom from India is not much of an issue for them.* I don't take issue with your bringing your kin into the equation. They are the people we know and understand most. However, when you or I extend the lessons learnt from that to apply all over Assam, or to the vast majority of Assam as you do, then we must examine the validity of the premise. Whether what you and your kin represent is the NORM for the rest of Assam? Do you still see my inquiry therefore an illogical or irrelevant one, designed to obfuscate as you insinuate? Now, should you not feel trapped by this request, you can do it , without divulging specific personal details, like: Grandparents from Lower Assam, rural, subsistence farmers with adequate arable land ( or landless sharecroppers, or scions of Zamindars, or school teacher in British Assam -- so on and so forth) Father, one of six siblings, local high school topper, MSc GU, IAS. Mother, daughter of High Ct clerk. Or Father BSc, Xorobhwg College, Local High School teacher, mother daughter of local Mahajan. Grew up in thatched hut, but now have poka-ghor, owns a motor scooter. So on and so forth. I worked hard, studies at distant High School with a Christian Saint's name, three stars at HS, IIT-Mumbai in Comp. Science, now at Perth. Three Siblings--a doctor, a college teacher and a businessman. Twenty two cousins ( by last count), spanning from aspiring IAS to AEC Engineer to
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Ram: You must not have thought about it, but do you not see the arrogance embedded in arguing on the one hand that ULFA does not represent Assamese people's aspirations, while refusing to take the only possible step to verify if it holds any water, citing the kind of alibis you do? Could ULFA exist for all these years if they did not have the active support of the people? Can they call for an Upper Assam 'bondho' and there would be nobody on the streets? I was at Dibrugarh on this past Jan. 26 . The place was dead. Everything was closed. Yours is a highly uninformed argument at best Ram. c-da At 10:05 AM -0600 2/9/07, Ram Sarangapani wrote: C'da Chitta, This is getting more interesting by the second. But I will let Chitta fend for himself (and has ably done so this far). Just wanted to touch on a small part, and then I will butt out. So why don't YOU raise your voice to put an end to that debate, by calling for a free and fair referendum after a period of unfettered and informed public debate and discussion? With the highly revered Election Commission with its stellar record at hand to guarantee the fairness of an outcome, what seems to be the problem :-)? Calls for a referundum are a common ploy by insurgents and those who think they are fighting for some noble cause. What they really want to do is to put the onus on the country. Its like saying - 'prove that I'am wrong'. Such a ref. would be great for insurgents - it shows that at last someone is paying attention to them, and also if such a thing is ever held, all they have to do is brandish their weapons, kill some who dare to stand up, and the rest of the people will fall in line and vote for the cause (or so they hope). The last thing anyone will see is a 'free fair' ref. You see it in Kashmir, and you see it in Assam. Now, why should a country try to prove anything to a group of insurgents, who possess only stolen money and guns (but no principles). And further, why should the country want to do that when (a) its against its constitution to give independence to some portion just because a group of wannabes want it ((b) No govt. in the state or Center has the right to give in to such a ref. as Assam is NOT their's to give away to insurgents. All Assamese want is that the Govt. fulfill its obligations to the state (which it hasn't done effectively for the past so many years). And this does not tantamount to seeking independence. (c) And lastly, and more importantly, most people in the state want to remain a part of India. --Ram On 2/9/07, Chan Mahanta mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi C: I changed the subject right back. The Minority Assamese smacks of a persecution complex based on ethnic,linguistic or cultural identity. For people like you or I, world-citizens, that would be a rather unbecoming complaint. We ought to pursue more relevant and concrete issues. No I don't think 'Answers for Chitta ' is at all personal. We have had many such discourses in assamnet in the past. But if it still bothers you, you are welcome to change it to something different. But let us not get into such things as Assamese ethnic persecution complex. We, the caste- Assamese, have little room to complain about that, if you know what I mean. Allow me to clarify a few of your misconceptions, before we get back to your questions. And I will continue to resort to cutting and pasting the questions to post my response, so that the reader, if there is any, can follow the context; in spite of your fears about it appearing too argumentative. I have no problems with that, if YOU don't. Bottom line is Mahanta da just because of I am based in Perth or you know my family or my immediate background , *** I don't know anything about you or yours. I don't need to. And I never would have asked the question, had you NOT prefaced your questions with: But not all of them-not the ones I know of. As far as my relatives, friends, parents,brothers, numerous cousins spread all over Assam are concerned (and if you consider them my own people),freedom from India is not much of an issue for them. I don't take issue with your bringing your kin into the equation. They are the people we know and understand most. However, when you or I extend the lessons learnt from that to apply all over Assam, or to the vast majority of Assam as you do, then we must examine the validity of the premise. Whether what you and your kin represent is the NORM for the rest of Assam? Do you still see my inquiry therefore an illogical or irrelevant one, designed to obfuscate as you insinuate? Now, should you not feel trapped by this request, you can do it , without divulging specific personal details, like: Grandparents from Lower Assam, rural, subsistence farmers with adequate arable land ( or
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Mahanta da Thanks-Tangentialy you answered my ACE question. But I stand vindicated because you were not able to point me towards any place , community, district, region in particular from where you hear the muffled cry for independence. Instead you pointed towards ULFA-is that a revealation to us? All I wanted was to know from who else? I never for once judged whether this wish, call, desire for freedom is just or unjust. All I wanted to know from you was whether in 2007 you believe majority still wants independence. I know you realise that most do not-all have become infidels with their minds fogged by pan-Indianess-except ULFA. But still there is a wish/dormant belief in you that a referendum in Assam will prove all of us wrong. By bringing this referendum talk, Mahanta da -here you are cornering yourself even more. Tell me Mahanta da, whether following are any tell tell signs of an Yes to independence in Assam? 1) 95% of people in the recent poll rejected ULFA rejected Swadhin Asom concept 2) 30,000 people in Guwahati swayed to Bhupen Hazarika's We are not sessionist or something like that song at the National Games opening ceremony yesterday. Tell me Mahanta da-they are not people of Assam. Even if there was a semblance of conviction about our wish for independence-10%, 5% or 1% of people could have walked out. These were the same people who boycotted the 83 election and turnout was 10% and there was not any gun trotting AASU guys on street. But passion was there-because the majority felt the cause to be just. You know Mahanta da-I can really go on-do you want me to? What do you have to say on this? *** So let me take a stab at your re-phrased ACE question, even though to address it in isolation, without attempting to understand what 'independence' means is at best a silly endeavor. But I know why it bothers you to delve into the issues associated with 'independence'. It will merely help perpetuate the conflict that besets Assam. The choice is yours. You can run from the issues all you want, but you cannot hide. So I hope you as a well wisher of Assam, who has seen better, would want to apply the lessons learnt, to contribute towards betterment of Assam's lot instead of helping perpetuate what is killing it. NOT AT ALL Mahanta da-I was trying to know apart from ULFA who all were there to throw some light on this issue associated with independence. I will have my field day with the questions I have. Wish I could get reply from those in ssamnet and beyond. Cause otherwise you will have bear the mantle-which I know you would. Regards Chitta Ram da It is not me and Mahanta da. Me and many others like would know what this is all about? How come we are so ignorant about the ground realities in Assam? And if we are convinced that there is some voice/desire for freedom from a significant portion of people. What plan the believers have with them to go further on. Because freedom is not the end, it is the beginning. Discussing those would be even more interesting. But we will get to the end of it-some day Regards Chittaranjan --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'da Chitta, This is getting more interesting by the second. But I will let Chitta fend for himself (and has ably done so this far). Just wanted to touch on a small part, and then I will butt out. So why don't YOU raise your voice to put an end to that debate, by calling for a free and fair referendum after a period of unfettered and informed public debate and discussion? With the highly revered Election Commission with its stellar record at hand to guarantee the fairness of an outcome, what seems to be the problem :-)? Calls for a referundum are a common ploy by insurgents and those who think they are fighting for some noble cause. What they really want to do is to put the onus on the country. Its like saying - 'prove that I'am wrong'. Such a ref. would be great for insurgents - it shows that at last someone is paying attention to them, and also if such a thing is ever held, all they have to do is brandish their weapons, kill some who dare to stand up, and the rest of the people will fall in line and vote for the cause (or so they hope). The last thing anyone will see is a 'free fair' ref. You see it in Kashmir, and you see it in Assam. Now, why should a country try to prove anything to a group of insurgents, who possess only stolen money and guns (but no principles). And further, why should the country want to do that when (a) its against its constitution to give independence to some portion just because a group of wannabes want it ((b) No govt. in the state or Center has the right to give in to such a ref. as Assam is NOT their's to give away to insurgents. All Assamese want is that the Govt. fulfill its obligations to the state (which it hasn't done effectively for the past so many years). And this does not tantamount to seeking independence. (c) And lastly, and
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Dear Chitta, How come we are so ignorant about the ground realities in Assam? And if we are convinced that there is some voice/desire for freedom from a significant portion of people. What plan the believers have with them to go further on. This is an appropriate question and has been asked numerous times in this net. However, we have never did get any straight answers. No, I don't believe there are concrete plans (at least long term). Most of whats happening seem to be knee-jerk reactions. Of course, we all know that there is a genuine voice (and desire) in Assam for independence, and there are are true revolutionaries. Today, I am not sure if they even exist. As for ground realities, one doesn't have to travel far from Guwahati to see the abject poverty and lack of development. I don't think we are ignorant of these realities. However, as these happen in such frequencies and is so commonplace, its a crying shame that we have just become so darn immune. --Ram da On 2/9/07, chittaranjan pathak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mahanta da Thanks-Tangentialy you answered my ACE question. But I stand vindicated because you were not able to point me towards any place , community, district, region in particular from where you hear the muffled cry for independence. Instead you pointed towards ULFA-is that a revealation to us? All I wanted was to know from who else? I never for once judged whether this wish, call, desire for freedom is just or unjust. All I wanted to know from you was whether in 2007 you believe majority still wants independence. I know you realise that most do not-all have become infidels with their minds fogged by pan-Indianess-except ULFA. But still there is a wish/dormant belief in you that a referendum in Assam will prove all of us wrong. By bringing this referendum talk, Mahanta da -here you are cornering yourself even more. Tell me Mahanta da, whether following are any tell tell signs of an Yes to independence in Assam? 1) 95% of people in the recent poll rejected ULFA rejected Swadhin Asom concept 2) 30,000 people in Guwahati swayed to Bhupen Hazarika's We are not sessionist or something like that song at the National Games opening ceremony yesterday. Tell me Mahanta da-they are not people of Assam. Even if there was a semblance of conviction about our wish for independence-10%, 5% or 1% of people could have walked out. These were the same people who boycotted the 83 election and turnout was 10% and there was not any gun trotting AASU guys on street. But passion was there-because the majority felt the cause to be just. You know Mahanta da-I can really go on-do you want me to? What do you have to say on this? *** So let me take a stab at your re-phrased ACE question, even though to address it in isolation, without attempting to understand what 'independence' means is at best a silly endeavor. But I know why it bothers you to delve into the issues associated with 'independence'. It will merely help perpetuate the conflict that besets Assam. The choice is yours. You can run from the issues all you want, but you cannot hide. So I hope you as a well wisher of Assam, who has seen better, would want to apply the lessons learnt, to contribute towards betterment of Assam's lot instead of helping perpetuate what is killing it. NOT AT ALL Mahanta da-I was trying to know apart from ULFA who all were there to throw some light on this issue associated with independence. I will have my field day with the questions I have. Wish I could get reply from those in ssamnet and beyond. Cause otherwise you will have bear the mantle-which I know you would. Regards Chitta Ram da It is not me and Mahanta da. Me and many others like would know what this is all about? How come we are so ignorant about the ground realities in Assam? And if we are convinced that there is some voice/desire for freedom from a significant portion of people. What plan the believers have with them to go further on. Because freedom is not the end, it is the beginning. Discussing those would be even more interesting. But we will get to the end of it-some day Regards Chittaranjan --- Ram Sarangapani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: C'da Chitta, This is getting more interesting by the second. But I will let Chitta fend for himself (and has ably done so this far). Just wanted to touch on a small part, and then I will butt out. So why don't YOU raise your voice to put an end to that debate, by calling for a free and fair referendum after a period of unfettered and informed public debate and discussion? With the highly revered Election Commission with its stellar record at hand to guarantee the fairness of an outcome, what seems to be the problem :-)? Calls for a referundum are a common ploy by insurgents and those who think they are fighting for some noble cause. What they really want to do is to put the onus on the country. Its like saying - 'prove that I'am wrong'. Such a ref. would be great for insurgents -
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Priyankoo-da,Thank you so much for your analytical remarks. The answers are mostly as I had expected from an intelligent and educated young man - excpt for baffling ones about :* Do you think men should not teach in school?ans: YesWould you like to teach in a school -using your skills in linguistics?ans: No-- Could you please elaborate. Though, I would agree that : 1. There are atleast two sides to every argument . 2. One man's meat is another man's poison.Thanks Regards.UmeshPriyankoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did Jaymala sin?ans: NoShould women be allowed in Sabrimala?ans:YesDo you think men should not teach in school?ans: YesWould you like to teach in a school -using your skills in linguistics?ans: NoDo you think UPE is an important goal?ans: YesAs you insist Umesh!!-Priyankoo4118 TurlingtonUniversity of FloridaGainesville, FlUSAwww.geocities.com/priyankoos___assam mailing listassam@assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.orgUmesh Sharma5121 Lackawanna STCollege Park, MD 20740 1-202-215-4328 [Cell Phone]Ed.M. - International Education PolicyHarvard Graduate School of Education,Harvard University,Class of 2005weblog: http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/ Now you can scan emails quickly with a reading pane. Get the new Yahoo! Mail.___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
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oops I thought it is Do you think men should teach in school? Ans: Yes The answer for Do you think men should not teach in school?is NO Thank you so much for your analytical remarks. == You're most welcome!! The answers are mostly as I had expected from an intelligent and educated young man == Thanks!! Priyankoo - Priyankoo 4118 Turlington University of Florida Gainesville, Fl USA www.geocities.com/priyankoos ___ assam mailing list assam@assamnet.org http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
