RE: [Asterisk-Users] The Smallest Asterisk Server Ever?

2004-02-10 Thread Matthew Hardeman
It's noteworthy that while Linux is GPL'ed, that doesn't mean that the
userspace applications that essentially make up the Snom phone and run
on top of the GPL'ed Linux kernel are.

Snom will gladly give you their customizations to the kernel, and a
build environment that will produce a firmware image that can be loaded
onto the Snom's...

They will not, however, unless policy has changed, give you the source
to the phone itself...  I tried.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 12:01, Chris Albertson wrote:
 I read a report of Asterisk running on a Microsoft X-Box.
 That's kind of a stunt as you could buy a decent PC for
 the price of a Linux-capable XBox.  Id's still like to
 see Asterisk run on very low-end hardware
 
 The Snom IP phone runs Linux inside?  I assume as Linux
 is GPL'd Snom will supply the source code?  It would be
 fun to install an Asterisk server in a phone.

Similarly, I know there was a stink about Linksys using linux inside a
router. I just picked up a USR 802.11g router that would be cool to get
a small VoIP only asterisk install on. It would make setting up those
802.11b phones nice and easy.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] consultative transfer cisco

2003-10-16 Thread Matthew Hardeman









Yes.
It works as it is supposed to.



Matt Hardeman

PaperSoft



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Subject: [Asterisk-Users]
consultative transfer cisco





Hello,











Is it possible to
makeconsultative transfer on Cisco 7940 and 7960 phones?











-- Bart










RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco CallManager Image for 7940/7960

2003-10-03 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Dustin,

It's quite a pain to get those without a CallManager...

However, there are some tools for extracting the compressed files from
an InstallShield image and I have successfully done so with those files
in particular and was able with some tweaking to get a phone back to
Skinny without having a CallManager.

Good luck.  If you need a pointer or two, drop me a line at
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Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft
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Does anyone have the .bin file(s) to convert a Cisco 7940/7960 back to
the CallManager image?
I want to start playing around with the chan_skinny addition, but it
seems the .exe's from cisco want to open a connection to a SQL server or
CallManager (which I don't have).


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] SIP security (was: New ATA clone out)

2003-09-29 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I've never attempted this in CIPE, though I have tested a SIP session
through IPSEC with no trouble.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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Is it not possible to bundle all of the TCP/UDP traffic in
a CIPE tunnel (or similar).

has anyone tried it? what were the results?

senad
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Nortel M Series phones support

2003-09-29 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Nope...

Nortel's M series is for the Meridian series PBXs/switches...  It's a
proprietary digital interface.

I doubt it will ever happen.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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I've searched the mailing list quite extensively, but didn't come up
with anything promising (some things wer helpful, though).  Does anyone
know if Nortel M Series (specifically the 2008, 2616, 7208, and 7310)
phones can be made to work with the TDM400P card or if they are ADSI
compatible at all?  I kind of doubt they will work if they are not
compatible, but I don't know what it would take to plug them directly
into a * box.

Thanks.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] CDR Web Search Frontend

2003-09-29 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I doubt if you'll be able to.  They made a strategic decision to GPL
rather than LGPL their client access libraries, as they wanted to up
their proprietary license revenue.  Essentially, they're trying to
enhance the benefits of paying for a commercial license fee, by making
it difficult to use MySQL in non-GPL products without said license.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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 Personally, I *love* MySQL, and I'm a bit surprised by their sudden
change
 from public domain (and maybe LGPL) to GPL for their client
libraries...

Who can we bug at mysql to see if we can get that changed?

bkw
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G729 experiences..

2003-09-26 Thread Matthew Hardeman
The last time I checked, the Snom 200's were so out-tasked by the G.729
implementation on them that their U.I. became non-responsive during the
call...  Serious performance issues there.  They may have come up with a
clever fix, but it's been a while since I've looked into it...  At the time,
what I saw was scary.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G729 experiences..


 Matthew Hardeman wrote:

 It's ok...  The voice sounds fine.  It's superior to most cell phone
 calls, anyway.
 
 I've used it with the Cisco 7960's without any trouble.
 
 You can use asterisk in any way that uses it in console mode.  Safe
 asterisk does so, so you can use it.  This may be otherwise fixed, but
 I'm not sure.  As safe asterisk works, I don't worry about it.
 
 Voicemail will use one license for each output stream it has to
 transcode.  Therefore, it is preferable if you are using G729 to only
 write out one format of voicemail recording.  I use WAV49, which is
 small like GSM, but easier to play on default windows installs with any
 kind of decent media player installed.  It *does* properly release the
 license when done.  (At least now, on my system, it does.)
 
 Matt Hardeman
 PaperSoft
 
 
 
 Has anyone used the Digim G.729 codec with SNOM 200 phones?

 I have heard people have had success with the Grandstream phones..

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G729 experiences..

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Hardeman
It's ok...  The voice sounds fine.  It's superior to most cell phone
calls, anyway.

I've used it with the Cisco 7960's without any trouble.

You can use asterisk in any way that uses it in console mode.  Safe
asterisk does so, so you can use it.  This may be otherwise fixed, but
I'm not sure.  As safe asterisk works, I don't worry about it.

Voicemail will use one license for each output stream it has to
transcode.  Therefore, it is preferable if you are using G729 to only
write out one format of voicemail recording.  I use WAV49, which is
small like GSM, but easier to play on default windows installs with any
kind of decent media player installed.  It *does* properly release the
license when done.  (At least now, on my system, it does.)

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft



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Hi,

I am still toying with the idea of going ahead with using the G.729..

Can those using it tell me about some of your experiences using G.729..
Things like and problems you had running it, the voice quality and
anything else you can think of...

I have read in the archives that asterisk has to be run with -c.. Is
this still the case? and if so does this mean that * can't be run using
the safe_asterisk script? or started remotely via an SSH session??

I have also read that the voicemailmain app uses up licences.. Does this
still happen and how many does it use??

Thanks..
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP Support for Symbian OS Devices

2003-09-25 Thread Matthew Hardeman



It can be done, with some limitations. I've 
tried a couple simple tests between a couple of Nokia 3650's...

It's noteworthy that the fastchat program for 
symbian phones has some voip capabilities... See www.fastchat.com for more info.

As far as trying to do a true, realtime 
bi-directional voip streaming from a symbian phone... Don't 
bother...

GPRS has exceptionally high round trip latency, 
averaging over 700ms generally and sometimes even more than one second. 
SSH is painful over GPRS, two-way voip would be unbearable.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:37 
  PM
  Subject: [Asterisk-Users] VoIP Support 
  for Symbian OS Devices
  
  
  Does anyone have any insignt on 
  this? Any client programs that could be 
used?


RE: [Asterisk-Users] Advantage of Cisco 7960 with 5.x firmware

2003-09-23 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I've found there are some bugs they don't list (bugs of great severity)
that are fixed in the latest release that can cause trouble in certain
environments.  The phone's handling of ICMP redirects in a multihomed
Ethernet environment (two separate, exclusive subnets running on a
single segment) is very flaky, and frequently will result in the phone
crashing and rebooting.  The latest release seems to mitigate this in
most instances, though I actually found the best solution (sadly) was to
prevent my gateway from sending ICMP redirects to the Cisco phones.

The 5.x+ stuff is annoying, due to the whole code-signing issue.  It's
kind of anti-open-architecture...  On the other hand, there aren't any
non-Cisco firmware builds for these phones floating around out there...
Would you even want one?  Cisco implemented the code signing enforcement
as a response to a security analysis of the phones that pointed to the
ability to make the phone run arbitrary code via TFTP being a security
risk.  That risk is no longer.  I have mixed feelings about it, but have
no regrets in having deployed the 5.x solutions in my business.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Advantage of Cisco 7960 with 5.x firmware

their really isn't much fixed between 4.4 and the 5.x stuff but at the
time thats all I had.  So I put that on the phone.  So far everything
works like a champ.  Not one problem.

4.4
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps2156/prod_release_note0
9186a008016096f.html#63943

Resolved Caveats.Release 5.0
No resolved caveats specific to Cisco IP Phone 7940/7960 Release 5.0
require documentation in these release notes.

Resolved Caveats.Release 5.1
All caveats listed in this section are resolved in Cisco IP Phone
7940/7960 Release 5.1. This section lists only severity 1 and 2 caveats
and select severity 3 caveats

CSCdz59328: SIPPhone: The UI responsiveness slow, fast fingers cause
digit
drop
CSCdz77783: SIPPhone: Clipping of voice in 7960 SIP phone
CSCea83100: SIP: Dialing # does not work correctly if dialplan is empty
CSCea85697: Phone may fail to reset when an Exception occurs
CSCea93250: SIPPhone: Dialing # does not always work if default rule
missing
CSCeb27906: SIPPhone: Null To-tag in REFER causes transfer fail (race
condition)
CSCeb29575: SIPPhone: NOTIFY Event header shortform is not supported
(o:)


Resolved Caveats.Release 5.2
All caveats listed in this section are resolved in Cisco IP Phone
7940/7960 Release 5.2. This section lists only severity 1 and 2 caveats
and select severity 3 caveats

CSCeb41335: DSP mismatch with upgrade failure
CSCeb44769: Phone removes dots in the IP address when sending ACK
CSCeb46028: 79x0 Memory leak issues related to DNS query failures
CSCeb75975: Phone crashes upon any menu exit


Resolved Caveats.Release 5.3
All caveats listed in this section are resolved in Cisco IP Phone
7940/7960 Release 5.3. This section lists only severity 1 and 2 caveats
and select severity 3 caveats

CSCeb85936: SIP phone doesnt use the medium level contact field

Hope that helps.

bkw

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Peter Pauly wrote:

 I'm currently running firmware version 3.2 on my
 Cisco 7960. I've seen on the list that several
 people are running the 5.x latest versions.

 I've avoided going to higher firmware versions
 because I'm worried about potential problems
 or issues with the encryption mechanism used
 in the later firmware versions. (Once you
 go to an encrypted firmware version, you can't
 go back, right?)

 For those of you who have gone to the newer
 firmware, what features or benefits have
 you seen by going with the newer firmware?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Source for 50-pin amphenol cables?

2003-09-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
GrayBar or any electrical supply that handles telephony has them.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 10:00 AM
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 On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 09:18, Peter Pauly wrote:
  I'm looking for a source for 50-pin amphenol
  cables, the ones used to connect Adtran's to 
  punch down blocks. Preferably, one that's 
  mail order and takes orders over the internet.
  Thanks. 
 
 You should be able to get it at any decent size contractor store. Also
 any company that does a lot of cable sales. 
 
 BTW, this is a good time to point out that Google has launched some very
 good services that let you do better searches when you want to purchase
 something rather than read about it. You should check out
 http://www.froogle.com/
 
 When I went to froogle, I search for 25 pair telephone. From there there
 was a advertiser that linked me to this URL.
 http://www.cablesamerica.com/product_list.asp?cat%5Fid=1305
 
 While I am reminding everyone why google rocks and you should look there
 often, You should also check out the http://catalogs.google.com
 They have several really interesting catalogs that you can search
 through. It has helped me find information on parts where those types of
 parts are not yet available via web pages.
 -- 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960 + SIP

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Hardeman
To clarify, you have to upgrade to 3.1 or 3.2 first, before attempting a
version four load.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] tftpboot]# cat OS79XX.TXT
P0S30100

Get this image as well.

Shaun Ewing wrote:

Hello all,

I know this isn't strictly Asterisk, but I'm sure that there are more
people
here using the Cisco 7960 w/ SIP, so I thought I'd post here.

I've just bought a Cisco 7960 phone to use with Asterisk. It came with
the
CallManager image on it.

I've got the 4.4 SIP images (P0S3-04-4-00).

If I put P0S3-04-4-00 in the OS79XX.TXT file, the phone downloads
this
fine (watching TFTP server debug).

It then proceeds to request P0S3-04-.bin. I don't know why. Naturally
this
file isn't found.

I tried renaming the file to P0S3-04-.bin. The phone then downloads
around
80% before aborting.

I hope somebody might be able to shed some light on the situation. Any
help
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Shaun

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G729

2003-09-12 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Yes!

The registration hardware locks to system parameters, and does some
software locking to certain inodes in your linux fs.

You must run registration on the production server.  Their license
scheme sucks!

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft




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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] G729

Hi,

I recently purchased some G729 licenses for asterisk.  I'm concerned
with the registration process.  My build tools are not physically
located on the same machine from which I build asterisk.  I build RPMs
on another machine and then install them on my production server.  Am I
going to cause myself trouble by runnning Registration on my non build
host?

Thanks
-z

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Another approach would be...

Just modify the mod_g729b.so such that the licensing constraints aren't
so problematic...

A little bird said it shouldn't be hard to do so...

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec

 Steve == Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Steve Kim C. Callis wrote:
  I was reading on www.vovida.org/applications/downloads/G729A/ (home
  of VOCAL) pages, and that there is a free license use for
  non-commercial for G.729A. Is that usable under Asterisk or strictly
  a Vovida offering?
 
 Steve This was a publicity stunt by VoiceAge, which Cisco/Vovida
 Steve seemed to get dragged into in their determination to see G.729
 Steve become more widely used. All that ever really happened was a
 Steve Windows binary was made available for very restricted use. 

This Windows binary is probably fairly easy to convert for someone with
sufficient skills. It's a simple library, COFF format. It's probably
sufficient to split it into .o files (using ar), then convert the .o
files (using objcopy --target=elf32-i386, objcopy from cygwin has both
elf32 and coff formats, so it's useful for that), and assemble the
resulting elf32 .a library (again, using ar). What remains to be taken
care of are mostly underscores in function/variable names.

Otherwise, this process should work and one should be able to create a
working Linux library (along with an asterisk codec).

Just remember that this is for non-commercial, personal usage only, as
the license clearly states. Also, one must not reverse-engineer the
code, which the license prohibits.

I was actually thinking about both buying a license for it and doing the
above, to avoid the licensing monstrosity present in the G.729A codec
resold by Digium. Then I gave it some thought and couldn't really find a
reason to do so much work on non-free code while there was speex almost
ready to be used.

I think it is rather sad (not to say ridiculous) for a company to guard
a piece of code this small with such monstrous licensing schemes.

 Steve The G.729 implementation Digium supplies for Linux in from the
 Steve same source. The licencing is so clunky I bet Mark is wishing he
 Steve had left it alone!

Couldn't agree more. The G.729 codec is so unDigium-like... don't buy
it is my recommendation.

--J.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I've never actually placed a call with the budgetone, but it just looks and
feels cheap.  The Snom is much nicer, and I tend to find that the Cisco
7960s/7940s are quite nice as well.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:12 PM
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 How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which one would you
 recommend for basic telephony?

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 I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was talking about new
 prices..

 Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you are really
lucky..
 :)

 Later..

  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
   The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY
expenisve..
  
   My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream
 Bugetone..
 
  Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  The Cisco's
  are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find a SNOM 200 on
  eBay, and retail seems to be $300.
 
  Steve
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
If I had to venture a guess, I would say that the protection scheme is in
place in the hopes that everyone will use their implementation rather than
reinvent the wheel.  If this is indeed the case, their protection scheme is
useful in helping to protect the patent license as well as their code.  So
far, it would seem, no one has bothered to reinvent the wheel, and as such
we're stuck using their implementation.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec


 Eric Wieling wrote:

 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 15:37, Mark Spencer wrote:
 
 
 Couldn't agree more. The G.729 codec is so unDigium-like... don't buy
 it is my recommendation.
 
 
 I don't think anybody buys G.729 just to have it.  They buy it because
 they *have* to have it.  And we sell it because they *have* to have it.
I
 think eventually we'll be able to come up with a better (but not, for
the
 near future, open) G.729 solution from us.
 
 
 
 What is the license for?  The actual binary module or for the patented
 codec?  If it's for the codec, then why can't you get a license from
 voiceage and then use your own code.  As you said it's available from
 the ITU.
 
 I have no idea why VoiceAge want to protect the code as they do. The
 code isn't interesting to licence. Its the pool of patents you really
 need to licence, and that is bundled with the VoiceAge codec. I don't
 know if they indemnify their licencees with regard to other patent
 holders crawling out of the woodwork with fresh claims on G.729, but
 they do include a licence for the known patents. Believe VoiceAge have
 some kind of exclusive pool licencing rights. I'm not clear how this
 works, though.

 The ITU G.729 code is pretty much useless for real world use. It is very
 slow. It gets the right answers, but not by efficient means. All the
 voice codec reference code I have seen is like this. The people who
 develop these things *have* to write an efficient version, as standards
 bodies demand to know the approximate MIPS a good implementation will
 require. The implementors do not release this version as the reference
 model. I've been through this from the codec developer's side. The
 reference model may be 10 or more times slower than a commercial grade
 implementation. I've no idea what the ratio might be for G.729.

 If someone produced a good open implementation of G.729, then it might
 be interesting to see how much the patents could be licenced for. The
 usual problem with these pooling things is they offer you two deals: One
 is US$many per port for one port up. The other is US$little per port for
 larger volumes, but you need to pay a one off fee of US$100,000 (or
 something on that scale) up front.

 Regards,
 Steve


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
 I completely see your point, and I agree with you that sales of the item
would be much higher if they didn't have their silly scheme.  However, it
seems to me that they intend to jealously defend and over-enforce...  Having
said that, one could surmise that they are simply control freaks hoping no
one will start selling a better implementation.

For that matter, is it possible that they've used their patent positions to
discourage others from trying to build another implementation?

One must wonder why someone hasn't written and started distributing one?

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec


 Hi Matthew,

 That argument doesn't seem to work. I don't hear many complaints here
 about the cost of the VoiceAge codec. It's the clunkiness of the
 protection scheme people don't like. It's only the protection scheme
 that seems to be making people want to dump the VoiceAge code.

 Remember how Microsoft got to be so big? Most successful packages, like
 123, had clunky copy protection that hurt the genuine customers far more
 than the pirates. Microsoft's applications business was getting nowhere
 at that time. Then Microsoft make a big announcement that they would not
 use such clunky protection schemes on Word or Excel, and their
 applications sales have never looked back.

 Inconveniencing the genuine customers is a proven loser. Perhaps the
 music industry will learn this soon.

 Regards,
 Steve


 Matthew Hardeman wrote:

 If I had to venture a guess, I would say that the protection scheme is in
 place in the hopes that everyone will use their implementation rather
than
 reinvent the wheel.  If this is indeed the case, their protection scheme
is
 useful in helping to protect the patent license as well as their code.
So
 far, it would seem, no one has bothered to reinvent the wheel, and as
such
 we're stuck using their implementation.
 
 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Are the VoiceAge people generally unpleasant to work with and geniunely
uncaring, or do they just fail to respond?

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Open G.729A codec


  I made a mistake of buying it so that I can have a low-bandwidth
  well-tested codec for use on an IAX2 link. Then I've caused Digium lots
  of unwanted trouble, because hair stood on the back of my neck after
  reading the licensing agreement and seeing the .so library. Let's hope
  it gets better in the future!

 Believe it or not, we worked hard to get that license agreement
 *improved*.  I wish they took our concerns (and those of our customers)
 more seriously.

 Mark

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] (no subject)

2003-08-06 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I've seen a number of anti-spam services that functioned on a community
basis (automatically) by accepting submissions from verifiably distinct
users and only blocking temporarily (for exponentially increasing time
intervals) based on an algorithm that factored in unique reports from
distinct users and the trust level of said user...

A concept like that would be fun to try, but I'm not sure anyone would
be willing to do it to their production systems.  :)

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] (no subject)

What if someone adds your number to that list ?
Someone would have to  moderate it.

regards
Martin

On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, McAughan, Matt wrote:

 Does anyone keep a known telemarketer caller id database? If not has
anyone
 proposed an Asterisk community project to share this information? Sort
of a
 nation wide blacklist so Asterisk'ers can cut down on the garbage
calls...



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk crashes when trying to load G.729 module.

2003-07-20 Thread Matthew Hardeman
This is generally indicates a problem with the licensing process (which
is severely flawed and full of bugs) on your server...  Did you make it
through the registration process OK?

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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Tinchev
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk crashes when trying to load G.729
module.

Before few days i bought few g.729 licenses.
When i try to load the codec, asterisk crahses.
I tried with and without oh323 module, same result:
--
Jul 20 07:06:49 WARNING[589851]: File codec_g729b.c, Line 413
(load_module): Unable to initialize va stuff: -1
--

Here the ldd result:
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ldd -v /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/codec_g729b.so
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40039000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

Version information:
/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/codec_g729b.so:
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1.3) = /lib/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.2) = /lib/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1) = /lib/libc.so.6
libc.so.6 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/libc.so.6
/lib/libc.so.6:
ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.1) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2
ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_2.0) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2
ld-linux.so.2 (GLIBC_PRIVATE) = /lib/ld-linux.so.2
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Again Asterisk and VMWare - it works now!

2003-07-19 Thread Matthew Hardeman
As I understand it, the playback applications need to have native access to
a piece of digium hardware to perform well...  Under the virtual machine,
that won't happen.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

- Original Message - 
From: David Boreham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Again Asterisk and VMWare - it works now!


  P.S. Please do not answer again that this setup cannot work. In this
 moment
  I cannot accept such an answer.

 Your e-mail made me chuckle. When I worked at Octel/Lucent
 in the mid-90's we were constantly sniped at for trying to make
 a voicemail system which ran on general purpose computers, operating
 systems, and message stores. It was hard work to get it to run
 smoothly back then even though we were the only application on the box.

 And today there's a guy who's trying to do the same thing
 in a VIRTUAL MACHINE !?!?!?

 sigh


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

2003-07-18 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I agree!

phpbb is great!

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jltaylor 
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IF there was a consideration for a change, I prefer:

phpbb

it's open source and easy to use.

www.phpbb.com

you can still get emails from the posts.

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Agh

I hate trying to sift through all these messages and keep track of the
various threads going on .

Who else on here prefers the newsgroup/threaded approach?  If you
haven't
already, check out news.gmane.org for mailing lists turned into
newsgroups
readable by news readers...


only problem being that this list requires list membership before
postingShrug


C  h  r  i  sE  a  r  l  e
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

2003-07-18 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Hey there!

Actually, yes, I do take 80 mg. Adderall XR daily, but I hardly think
that's relevant to this thread or for that matter this mailing list.

Windows on the desktop is *still* a reality...  There are some things I
just have to have it for...  As such, here at my desk at work, I have
this laptop running Windows...  Shame on me.  I do have quite a few
linux systems, though.

Like many others here, I understand the thread-view features of outlook
and other mail readers...  I consider them all a nasty kludge.

Fancy formatting and graphics are optional.  Phpbb is configurable at
the user level with a number of skins, including some very simple
nearly plain-text types that work quite well with text based web
browsers.

As for the bandwidth issue, servers migrating from a mailing list format
to a forum format generally experience reductions in used bandwidth as
not every user will constantly receive all messages.  Users visit the
site on a timeframe convenient to them, and read only the posts that
interest them, by thread.  As they are able to quickly reject or ignore
threads that are irrelevant to them, they spend their time and bandwidth
reading messages that matter to them.

I didn't mention earlier that most forum software these days has a
subscriber to forum feature that allows users to receive emails of the
messages from the forums automatically, if they prefer.

Frankly, I don't think any of the assertions in my prior email were
terribly absurd, but each is entitled to his own opinion.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven
Critchfield
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format

On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 12:11, Matthew Hardeman wrote:
 I feel your pain!
 
 I tend to prefer html based forums...  They keep threads well
organized,
 cause less overhead on the server, conserve bandwidth, etc...

I understand you are a crack addict by your use of Outlook, and your
opinion that fancy formating and graphics could be less bandwidth
intensive than plain text. The only way you use less bandwidth is if you
have fewer users reading. A mailing list broadcast the message to all
users, then you can read it over and over again without incurring more
transport bandwidth with the original server.  

 They also give visual priority to new threads and active threads...

What do you think bold on unread is? Get a threaded mail reader, and
enjoy.

 On the other hand, to deal with forums, you actually have to go check
 them...

Yep, reason not to use them on top of the above absurdities you try and
put forth.

 -Original Message-
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Earle
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 Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:02 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] OT: list format vs newsgroup format
 
 Agh
 
 I hate trying to sift through all these messages and keep track of the
 various threads going on .
 
 Who else on here prefers the newsgroup/threaded approach?  If you
 haven't
 already, check out news.gmane.org for mailing lists turned into
 newsgroups
 readable by news readers...
 
 
 only problem being that this list requires list membership before
 postingShrug
 
 
 C  h  r  i  sE  a  r  l  e
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960

2003-07-17 Thread Matthew Hardeman









Ive run into this before, and its
a pain to debug



Be sure that your eth0 interface (primary,
first interface) is set to your internal address space (of the same subnet that
you assign to the phone). You can add an
IP alias on eth0:1 if you need an external IP on that box as well, but you must
have them in that order: internal = eth0, externals, others eth0:1+



Try that



Matt

PaperSoft





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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:35
AM
To:
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco
7960





I bought a 7960 it was running
version 3.3 of the SIP software. It worked fine. Me being the idiot I am
upgraded to 5.1. Now it downloads the configs and then reboots. if I unplug the
ethernet it doesn't rebootor if I remove all the lines in the SIP config
it won't reboot. Since this is used cisco won't give me any support. For now I
am running the MGCP version but eh asterisk seems to have some issues with it.





 Thanks,





 Will










RE: [Asterisk-Users] Any dialing tricks...

2003-07-17 Thread Matthew Hardeman








Hey Kim!



I used to run that scam myself! You go! Back in the day, actually, I had our
legacy lucent merlin phone system wired up to a modem on a webserver which
could config it And with some voicemail tricks and the like, it was
possible for me to visit a little WAP site on my phone, and have it dial the
number and bridge the call to me



In asterisk it would be a lot more
graceful You could build a
little script to look for a two-way message from you and use the outbound call
spool to set up a call


Matt Hardeman

PaperSoft







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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:38 AM
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Any
dialing tricks...



Alright, I am basically cheap, and I
have a cellular plan which allows for free incoming calls (Nextel). I was
wondering if there was any way to do sort of a dialback trick in the
extensions.conf I call into the system from my cell phone (maybe via DISA), I dial
an internal extension, and dial a phone number Then * sends to my
cellphone the number dialed thus giving me a in call on the cell. Or maybe have
a call back with a DISA and then just dial my phone number I am trying to
reach



Just a thought!



Kim Callis








RE: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960

2003-07-17 Thread Matthew Hardeman









Heres a hint


Upgrade back to 5.1. It still has
bugs, but theyre no worse than 5.0



Put it in the same subnet as the asterisk
server, and make sure that the eth0 interface (the FIRST interface in the box)
is on that subnet. Generally, you
will want this to be your internal address space. 192.168.0.x If you asterisk server needs an external
IP on the same Ethernet, just do an alias as eth0:1 or something along those
lines. Make the primary hostname of
the server (as reflected by the hostname command) match up in /etc/hosts as the
internal IP address.



Asterisk apparently picks up the first IP
address on the system to use as its source IP address for all things SIP If you have a Cisco phone communicate
with Asterisk on another subnet known to the system (via an IP alias on the
same Ethernet card), Ive found that the Cisco 7960 will crash and burn. I suspect that if Asterisk were modified
to source the communications back over the interface it received them, the
crash would no longer happen.



Check your configuration files Ive
had these phones crash on me before if your networking isnt very
friendly to them, but never before just during the booting sequence Trust me; you can get this phone to work
Its just a matter of patience and experimenting, and lots of free time
wasted on Ethereal J



As an aside, Ive actually been
actively working with a Cisco developer (even today) to generate more debug
information for them on the network caused crash and reboot issue, and they
think theyve about got it licked I believe they will be sending me a
firmware image to test soon that will have at least that bug, and probably
more, fixed.



Matt Hardeman

PaperSoft



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To:
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users]
Cisco 7960





Cisco's website has some stuff on
there website which seems to indicate if the 7960 cannot contact the call
manager server it reboots. However to my knowledge this has never had call
manager software before and cisco doesn't mention this feature with
the SIP firmware. I downgraded to 5.0 unfortunately due to only being able to
run Secure images now thats as far back as I can go. Thanks again cisco for
this feature.











From what I can tell the phone never
talked to the Asterisk box. If I turn on SIP debugging I do not see any traffic
coming from the cisco box. Although I did have them on seperate subnets. Let me
try putting them on the same subnet and see if that helps.





 Thanks,





 Will







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From: Matthew Hardeman






To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:58 PM





Subject: RE:
[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960









Ive run into this
before, and its a pain to debug



Be sure that your eth0
interface (primary, first interface) is set to your internal address space (of
the same subnet that you assign to the phone). You can add an IP alias on eth0:1 if you
need an external IP on that box as well, but you must have them in that order:
internal = eth0, externals, others eth0:1+



Try that



Matt

PaperSoft





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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:35 AM
To:
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Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco
7960





I bought a 7960 it was running
version 3.3 of the SIP software. It worked fine. Me being the idiot I am
upgraded to 5.1. Now it downloads the configs and then reboots. if I unplug the
ethernet it doesn't rebootor if I remove all the lines in the SIP config
it won't reboot. Since this is used cisco won't give me any support. For now I
am running the MGCP version but eh asterisk seems to have some issues with it.





 Thanks,





 Will












RE: [Asterisk-Users] G729 quality

2003-07-15 Thread Matthew Hardeman
In my experience it depends on who or what you are speaking G729 to, but
yes, generally...

Matt Hardeman
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] EZ-Install

2003-07-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Maybe it's just me...

But I fail to see the reasoning behind branching to a whole new
distribution just to support an easy, out of the box Asterisk install.

Perhaps just the creation of an RPM package with a basic configuration
would be the ticket?

The one potential exception to this would be if you wrote a distribution
with advanced hardware detection and preconfiguration such that during
the install process, Digium hardware is detected and you can go ahead
and configure spans and channels, etc.  In that case, the distribution
might have some unique value.

Short of that, I cannot imagine a new distribution just to package
together a pre-configured Asterisk configuration.

Even if you wrote an installation process like that, couldn't it be just
as well implemented with a clever RPM-based installation and some nice
plain old userspace configuration tools?

Matt Hardeman
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Not CD based.
Just CD install.
When you reboot Linux with asterisk is installed.
You could add any other tools you think are necessary.
User then just does config.





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Date: 14 Jul 2003 10:18:24 -0500

On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 10:34, jltaylor wrote:
 Has anyone thought about an ISO file that could be used to make a CD
for a bootable install for a basic Linux/Asterisk system?
 
 Just re-boot and config.

Might be interesting to build based off of a knoppix cd, but then what
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[Asterisk-Users] Hardware Vendors

2003-07-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman








Hi All!



Can anyone direct me to any websites / manufacturers out
there who are making small, put-it-in-the-closet-and-forget-it type systems for
building routers, home gateway servers, that sort of thing?



My fantasy machine for this purpose would be along the lines
of a mini-itx system with external power supply, dual Ethernet interfaces on
board, and one PCI slot available. If it
had one real serial port on it, that would be great too. Am I dreaming, or does it exist for a
reasonable price? I would be willing to
go the 500 MHz  1 GHz range.
Something without a fan would be really nice. Im basically looking for a system that
someone out there is stamping out in quantities and isnt too outrageous
in price. Does it exist, and if so who
sells it?



It seems to me a system like the above described would be
perfect for building out a home gateway / home asterisk server



Matt Hardeman

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] G729 licensing

2003-07-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
Missing something?

No...

So far as I'm aware there is no freely available G729 codec available
that will run under Linux...  Kind of funny that there *is* one for
Windows, isn't it?

As an aside, though, what kind of equipment are you using, and what
circumstances are you communicating in?  ALAW  ULAW make great codecs
for use on a LAN.  :)

I've also had great luck using GSM with the Snom200 running the very
latest firmware.  (1.18s)  It's not yet posted on their website, but
they will give you a link to it should you write their support team...

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft


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Hi,

I'm looking for a good codec to use on a personal VoIP setup. It is
strictly for my personal use, I'll never resell it, make money or it, or
whatever.

It seems a free personal-use G729 codec is available as a WIN32
library. I find it puzzling that at the same time one has to pay license
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I was wondering -- am I missing something?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fwd:[Vocal] Question about Cisco IP hard phones

2003-07-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
chan_sccp would be nice :)

I've been playing around with the 7960's and have really enjoyed the 7960 as
a desktop phone.  It's physically well constructed, has a sturdy/heavy
handset (a good thing in my book), a very pleasant user interface...  And if
you're willing to make changes to your network setup to accomodate it's
presently finicky firmwarre, you'll be ok...

The firmware issue for the 7960 SIP is yet to be resolved, but hopefully
it'll come around...

I think the entire 79XX lines of phones by Cisco has lots of promise, but we
won't really see the others (than the 7960/7940) be much use in Asterisk
until there is native support in Asterisk for sccp...  I did hear a rumor
that someone was working on it...

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft
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From: John Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fwd:[Vocal] Question about Cisco IP hard phones


 Interesting notes on the 79xx series.

 The 7920 is the wireless phone; not mentioned here.

 For a more complete guide to Cisco's phones, see:


http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheets_list.html

 The 7902 is the very inexpensive Cisco phone, and it looks like it
 will be SCCP (Skinny) only.  Twiddling my thumbs here waiting for the
 chan_sccp to appear. ;-)

 JT

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: David Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Chok Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Org [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Vocal] Question about Cisco IP hard phones
 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 11:56:45 -0700
 
 Folks,
 
 For the time being, the low-end Cisco IP phones, 7902G and 7912G
 support SCCP only. The 7905G supports both H.323 and SCCP, but
 we are not prioritizing new development on the H.323 load. This load
 is a legacy from the 7905 phone that was released in 2003 and
 EOL'd last week.
 
 This autumn, we will release a SIP image for the 7905G and 7912G.
 There are no plans to release a SIP image for the 7902G.
 
 David
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] G729 licensing

2003-07-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I'm not familiar with the codec support in Gnomeeting, but have you tried a
codec like iLBC?  I had great success running ilbc over IAX2 between my home
and office.

Matt Hardeman
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[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960s

2003-07-11 Thread Matthew Hardeman



Cisco should really be ashamed of this 
product...

While it is physically well constructed, and has 
excellent sound quality along with a very pleasant user interface, the device 
has SERIOUS stability issues, unless you run your network with an iron 
fist...

Quite by accident, while configuring my Asterisk 
system to connect to a Cisco 7960 via SIP in a standard office PBX type 
arrangement, I discovered something interesting...

By screwing around with both the source IP address 
of a SIP message, along with certain IP addresses in the SIP message itself, 
it's quite easy to crash the Cisco.

In short, it would betrivial to DOS (by 
forcing continuous crashes and the subsequent reboots) any Cisco 7960 that you 
can route UDP packets to...

Matt HardemanPaperSoft




Re: [Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960s

2003-07-11 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I have an open ticket at cisco with status development review; workaround
provided.

I'm going to remind them of the potential security consequences later
today...

The tech I've been working with seems very competent, and I suspect this may
eventually get dealt with...

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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 Cisco and bugtraq need to know this!

 josh.

 On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 09:21, Matthew Hardeman wrote:
  Cisco should really be ashamed of this product...
 
  While it is physically well constructed, and has excellent sound
  quality along with a very pleasant user interface, the device has
  SERIOUS stability issues, unless you run your network with an iron
  fist...
 
  Quite by accident, while configuring my Asterisk system to connect to
  a Cisco 7960 via SIP in a standard office PBX type arrangement, I
  discovered something interesting...
 
  By screwing around with both the source IP address of a SIP message,
  along with certain IP addresses in the SIP message itself, it's quite
  easy to crash the Cisco.
 
  In short, it would be trivial to DOS (by forcing continuous crashes
  and the subsequent reboots) any Cisco 7960 that you can route UDP
  packets to...
 
  Matt Hardeman
  PaperSoft
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Weird experience with MOH

2003-07-11 Thread Matthew Hardeman
If you're on a RedHat system, mpg321 is installed by default, and is
symlinked to as mpg123...

So, it can easily look like you have mpg123, but you really have mpg321...

Sorry if you checked for that, and I've offended, but just thought I'd
offer.

Matt Hardeman
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 Hi

 I thought I share this one, just in case this is an indication of some
 bug ...

 When I was trying to use music on hold at first, I didn't bother to copy
 any music into /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 since there was a sample-
 hold.mp3 in there which played just fine in a standalone MP3 player.

 But after uncommenting one of the lines in musiconhold.conf and doing
 reload on the console, there was only silence when putting a caller on
 hold. Somebody told me I may have the wrong mp3 app (321 vs 123) while I
 was getting busy with something else and so I put this aside. Although I
 found that I did have mpg123 installed.

 Yesterday, I copied some music files into /var/lib/asterisk/mohmp3 in
 anticipation that I would get this to work eventually and to my
 surprise, putting a caller on hold now plays the music. I have no idea
 why it didn't work at first, but it would seem that for some unknown
 reason, Asterisk didn't like the sole sample-hold.mp3 file.

 rgds
 bk

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[Asterisk-Users] Cisco 7960 SIP Craziness...

2003-07-10 Thread Matthew Hardeman








Hi All!



First, let me introduce myself, as this is my first post to
the list (Ive been lurking for quite some time now).



My name is Matt Hardeman, and I work for a software
development firm in Birmingham, AL.



We are interested in the Asterisk PBX and its
various configurations first as an internal solution for our occasionally bizarre
telephony needs, and eventually are interested in potentially working with Asterisk
commercially and building services around it



Anyway, at this state in the game I am currently playing
with my Asterisk configuration with various SIP devices, trying to find the
ultimate desktop UI



Currently, Ive purchased a Cisco 7960 which
unfortunately comes pre-installed with a CallManager image.



No problem, or so I thought The reseller sent me the latest SIP
firmware



I have set up my TFTP server, and the phone talks to it,
downloads is OS79XX.TXT file, etc, etc.



When it goes to download the firmware image, it fails the
download, and keeps repeatedly trying.
This scenario is covered in the Cisco FAQ for converting a CallManager
7960 to SIP It essentially
is a bug in the firmware on the phone which requires upgrading to an
intermediary, older SIP firmware first. URL: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094584.shtml



I dont have this, and my reseller doesnt have
it handy either, though they promise to get it (some day?)



At any rate, Ive opened a Cisco tech support incident
with hopes that theyll be able to provide me the files quick and easy.



But, that failing, can anyone out there send me P0S30200.bin???



Thanks,



Matt Hardeman

PaperSoft