[Asterisk-Users] Outbound IAX calls stop ringing remote phone, yet can still pick up

2004-10-29 Thread Stephen David
Greetings,

I've recently encountered some strange behavior placing outbound calls using IAX via a 
VOIP provider.  Intermittently, calls placed will ring the called phone a couple 
times, then the ringing stops.  However, even after a few seconds of silence i can 
pick up the phone and the call is connected.  

I've tried this with two different VOIP providers (voicepulse and nufone), and have 
experienced the behavior on both.

Any ideas?  I would've thought that the voip provider would be responsible for 
generating the ring tones, but i'm not sure.

Regards,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: Outbound IAX calls stop ringing remote phone, yet can still pick up

2004-10-29 Thread Stephen David
 Greetings,

 I've recently encountered some strange behavior placing outbound calls
 using IAX via a VOIP provider.  Intermittently, calls placed will ring
 the called phone a couple times, then the ringing stops.  However,
 even after a few seconds of silence i can pick up the phone and the
 call is connected.

 I've tried this with two different VOIP providers (voicepulse and
 nufone), and have experienced the behavior on both.

 Any ideas?  I would've thought that the voip provider would be
 responsible for generating the ring tones, but i'm not sure.

 Regards,
 Steve
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 That will, of course HIDE any BUSY or telco messages.  And the caller
 will never know of they dialed an invalid number or of the number they
 dialed is busy.  Do you think he REALLY wants that?

 Steve Totaro wrote:
I don't know, but sweeping the problem under the rug with r is not a 
solution except as a last resort.  Regardless of if he ends up using r 
or not he needs to know what other problems r will cause.

What we really need is a console output of a call that happens with 
(hopefully with a note where the ringback actually stops).


Thanks, both.  However, i was talking about the ringing for the 'CALLED' party, no the 
'CALLING' party.  I don't care about the ringing for the calling party because its an 
oubound dialing app using .CALL files.  The ringing (periodically) stops after 2 rings 
or so -- but the CALLEE can still pick up the line and connect the call.

also, killing the call progress information for the call is no an option -- i need to 
know if the lines was busy / no answer.  (don't worry, NOT a telemarketing app!)

can you think of any reason why the CALLEE's line would stop ringing after 2 rings 
(sporadically), while the line is still active?
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: call progress - what are the sticking points?

2004-10-28 Thread Stephen David
i don't have a specific bug in mind, i was just wondering WHY call progress doesn't 
work so well -- in particular, on analog lines.  ie. is it a hardware or software 
problem (or both).  with more info, i'd like to help to work out the kinks, for myself 
and everyone.  :)  


I have the same problem.
callprogress is very experimental and buggy now.
and i've lost the .call files feature of asterisk.
what do you think about submitting a bug on bugs.digium.com?
  

not sure what you mean by 'lost the .call files feature', but if you have a specific 
bug to post, i think it would be great if you posted it.

  regards,
  shabanip

   Hello,
  
   I've been experimenting with the call progress analysis features of *,
   with mixed success on Zap as well as IAX channels.  I've read all the
   posts about it, including (but not limited to)
   http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+auto-dial+out and the pages it
   references.
  
   My question is, what's the current state -- is there any work in progress
   right now to improve the reliability of * call progress detection?  last I
   saw it was still listed as 'experimental'.
  
   What are the problems that are preventing a more robust implementation
   of call progress detection?   Would this work better with different
   hardware (ie. I've had success in the past using Dialogic telephony
   boards)?  Or is this primarily a software issue with *?
  
   Thanks much!
   Regards,
   Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] call progress - what are the sticking points?

2004-10-27 Thread Stephen David
Hello,

I've been experimenting with the call progress analysis features of *, with mixed 
success on Zap as well as IAX channels.  I've read all the posts about it, including 
(but not limited to) http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+auto-dial+out and the 
pages it references.

My question is, what's the current state -- is there any work in progress right now to 
improve the reliability of * call progress detection?  last I saw it was still listed 
as 'experimental'.

What are the problems that are preventing a more robust implementation of call 
progress detection?   Would this work better with different hardware (ie. I've had 
success in the past using Dialogic telephony boards)?  Or is this primarily a software 
issue with *?

Thanks much!
Regards,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] Re: pound key tone generated after call answered?

2004-07-27 Thread Stephen David
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 Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 22:15:32 -0400
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 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] pound key tone generated after call answered?
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 Hello,
 
 I've been working on an * dialer application, whereby a requirement is that if no 
 one answers the call, a message must be left on voicemail.  I've been using the 
 record(tmp.gsm) function with silence detection enabled to wait for the greeting to 
 finish before speaking.
 
 However, on voicemail systems where you can interrupt the greeting with a pound (#) 
 key to access your voicemail (ie. verizon wireless), the call placed by asterisk 
 appears to be immediately generating a tone (upon answer) that the voicemail system 
 is interpreting as a pound key (#).  I know this because if i listen to tmp.gsm, i 
 hear the tail end of please enter your password, then press pound., and NOT 
 hello, this is steve, please leave message as i expected.
 
Just in case anyone stumbles upon this in the future, i figured it out.  The problem 
is not that a # key tone was getting generated on answer, the problem was that i was 
setting the CallerID to the same value that I was dialing.  Apparently it is a feature 
of certain voicemail systems that it detects this and automatically goes to voicemail. 
  that's why if you dial yourself from your cellphone you get voicemail instead of 
your greeting.

 also of note is that this only happens when dialing using IAX2 with a call 
 termination provider, and not with ZAP and a POTS line.   also note that i've tried 
 two different IAX2 providers with the same resuls.  (using zap and pots lines is not 
 preferrable in this case)
 
 one more note is that i've disabled the 'beep' before the recording starts 
 (commented out lines in app_record.c and re-built code), just in case that was 
 causing it -- no change in behavior, though. 
 
 any thoughts on what could be causing this, or how to further troubleshoot?
 
 Regards,
 Steve
 
whew...

Regards,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] pound key tone generated after call answered?

2004-07-25 Thread Stephen David
Hello,

I've been working on an * dialer application, whereby a requirement is that if no one 
answers the call, a message must be left on voicemail.  I've been using the 
record(tmp.gsm) function with silence detection enabled to wait for the greeting to 
finish before speaking.

However, on voicemail systems where you can interrupt the greeting with a pound (#) 
key to access your voicemail (ie. verizon wireless), the call placed by asterisk 
appears to be immediately generating a tone (upon answer) that the voicemail system is 
interpreting as a pound key (#).  I know this because if i listen to tmp.gsm, i hear 
the tail end of please enter your password, then press pound., and NOT hello, this 
is steve, please leave message as i expected.

also of note is that this only happens when dialing using IAX2 with a call termination 
provider, and not with ZAP and a POTS line.   also note that i've tried two different 
IAX2 providers with the same resuls.  (using zap and pots lines is not preferrable in 
this case)

one more note is that i've disabled the 'beep' before the recording starts (commented 
out lines in app_record.c and re-built code), just in case that was causing it -- no 
change in behavior, though. 

any thoughts on what could be causing this, or how to further troubleshoot?

Regards,
Steve
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[Asterisk-Users] call progress detection

2004-07-18 Thread Stephen David
Hello,

I haven't seen any recent posts on call progress detection, so here's a question:

How would one accomplish an automated outbound dialing application using *, whereby a 
requirement is to wait for the greeting to complete (live person, answering machine, 
voicemail) before delivering the message?  For example, playing a 'reminder' message 
to a list of recipients.  I know its possible using telephony boards (ie. 
Dialogic/Intel), but don't know about *.

I have experimented with callprogress=yes in zapata.conf, but not sure if that was 
intended to cover what i describe above. 

Regards,
Steve
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