Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Tim Panton


On 18 Apr 2006, at 09:27, Dave Cotton wrote:


On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:13 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:

Any thoughts as to why only 1 of my boxes has this problem?


Is it really a problem?


 I'm on a
2.6 kernel so any more ideas?


Can someone answer what was the original purpose of the
"export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1" in the asterisk script?


We have it set on Fedora Core 1 systems (and equivalent vintage RHEL)
because RedHat backported the 2.6 kernel threads to their 2.4
kernel, and loads of things broke (oracle 9i, java 1.3 etc) so
we had LD_ASSUME_KERNEL 2.4.1 set to force the old
(i.e. normal for a 2.4 kernel) behavior.

If you are running asterisk on a stable 2.6 kernel you
shouldn't set it.

By the way, the

cat /proc/*asterisk proc number*/environ | strings | grep  
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL


only works if you are root, or whoever asterisk is running as. It  
gives an empty result if

it has not got permission to read.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Lee Archer
All I can figure is that something I haven't yet figured is causing
these processes to be created, and after a while there is so many that
outgoing calls over zap can't be made.  It only applies to 1 system out
of 7, running Suse 10 and a 2.6 kernel.

Lee 

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On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:33 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:
> Yes it is a problem cos after a while of just leaving it the system is

> unable to make calls out via the PSTN, which is why I have spent time 
> with the telco, more like wasted time, and played with zaptel's 
> make options.  After trying a few things I came to the temporary 
> conclusion that it was the zaptel watchdog trying and failing to 
> restart a hung channel.  I recompiled zaptel without the watchdog and 
> a few days later it did the same so I'm back to sq 1.

Ok, I'll ask it another way.

Is it _the_ problem because I've an uptime of 209 days on a system with
no problems and multiple asterisk processes.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread stevanus




I've tried cat /proc/*asterisk proc number*/environ | strings | grep
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL and it returns nothing..:(

And just for confirmation : I had the same problem as Lee had (unable
to make calls out) :(

Regards,

Stevanus

Lee Archer wrote:

  Yes it is a problem cos after a while of just leaving it the system is
unable to make calls out via the PSTN, which is why I have spent time
with the telco, more like wasted time, and played with zaptel's make
options.  After trying a few things I came to the temporary conclusion
that it was the zaptel watchdog trying and failing to restart a hung
channel.  I recompiled zaptel without the watchdog and a few days later
it did the same so I'm back to sq 1.

Regards

Lee

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:13 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:
  
  
Any thoughts as to why only 1 of my boxes has this problem?

  
  
Is it really a problem?

  
  
 I'm on a
2.6 kernel so any more ideas?

  
  
Can someone answer what was the original purpose of the "export
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1" in the asterisk script?

Perhaps Gregory Boehnlein, the author, will be able to tell us.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Cotton
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:33 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:
> Yes it is a problem cos after a while of just leaving it the system is
> unable to make calls out via the PSTN, which is why I have spent time
> with the telco, more like wasted time, and played with zaptel's make
> options.  After trying a few things I came to the temporary conclusion
> that it was the zaptel watchdog trying and failing to restart a hung
> channel.  I recompiled zaptel without the watchdog and a few days later
> it did the same so I'm back to sq 1.

Ok, I'll ask it another way.

Is it _the_ problem because I've an uptime of 209 days on a system with
no problems and multiple asterisk processes.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Lee Archer
Yes it is a problem cos after a while of just leaving it the system is
unable to make calls out via the PSTN, which is why I have spent time
with the telco, more like wasted time, and played with zaptel's make
options.  After trying a few things I came to the temporary conclusion
that it was the zaptel watchdog trying and failing to restart a hung
channel.  I recompiled zaptel without the watchdog and a few days later
it did the same so I'm back to sq 1.

Regards

Lee

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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:13 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:
> Any thoughts as to why only 1 of my boxes has this problem?

Is it really a problem?

>  I'm on a
> 2.6 kernel so any more ideas?

Can someone answer what was the original purpose of the "export
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1" in the asterisk script?

Perhaps Gregory Boehnlein, the author, will be able to tell us.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Cotton
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 09:13 +0100, Lee Archer wrote:
> Any thoughts as to why only 1 of my boxes has this problem?

Is it really a problem?

>  I'm on a
> 2.6 kernel so any more ideas?

Can someone answer what was the original purpose of the
"export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1" in the asterisk script?

Perhaps Gregory Boehnlein, the author, will be able to tell us.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Lee Archer
Any thoughts as to why only 1 of my boxes has this problem?  I'm on a
2.6 kernel so any more ideas?

Regards

Lee

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On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 08:29 +0100, Tim Panton wrote:
> 
> I'd guess you have a startup script for asterisk that is setting the 
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL environment variable.
> 
> To check, find the 'main' asterisk process id (almost always the 
> lowest numbered asterisk process) then look (as root) in the /proc 
> entry, eg:
> 
> cat /proc/13098/environ | strings | grep LD_ASSUME_KERNEL

Now we're getting somewhere.

In some old contribs/init.d  asterisk scripts there is the following:-

# Leave this set unless you know what you are doing.
#export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1

While others have nothing or this

# Uncomment this ONLY if you know what you are doing.
# export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Dave Cotton
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 08:29 +0100, Tim Panton wrote:
> 
> I'd guess you have a startup script for asterisk that is setting the
> LD_ASSUME_KERNEL environment variable.
> 
> To check, find the 'main' asterisk process id (almost always the  
> lowest numbered asterisk process)
> then look (as root) in the /proc entry, eg:
> 
> cat /proc/13098/environ | strings | grep LD_ASSUME_KERNEL

Now we're getting somewhere.

In some old contribs/init.d  asterisk scripts there is the following:-

# Leave this set unless you know what you are doing.
#export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1

While others have nothing or this

# Uncomment this ONLY if you know what you are doing.
# export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-18 Thread Tim Panton


On 18 Apr 2006, at 03:20, stevanus wrote:


Hmm...my output for getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION is NPTL 2.3.4..
I don't know what it's mean anyway :P

And for Lee, I'm configuring my asterisk through amp (now freepbx),  
but I do some custom configuration manually too ;)


I guess Paul is right, I suspect there are bugs in asterisk that  
haven't been solved like "avoiding deadlock on iax" problem which I  
had mentioned before..


Unfortunately, I don't know how to recreate the problem so all I  
can do if the problem is happened just do some killall - 9  
asterisk :(...


Regads,

Stevanus


I'd guess you have a startup script for asterisk that is setting the
LD_ASSUME_KERNEL environment variable.

To check, find the 'main' asterisk process id (almost always the  
lowest numbered asterisk process)

then look (as root) in the /proc entry, eg:

cat /proc/13098/environ | strings | grep LD_ASSUME_KERNEL


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread stevanus




Hmm...my output for getconf GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION is NPTL 2.3.4..
I don't know what it's mean anyway :P

And for Lee, I'm configuring my asterisk through amp (now freepbx), but
I do some custom configuration manually too ;)

I guess Paul is right, I suspect there are bugs in asterisk that
haven't been solved like "avoiding deadlock on iax" problem which I had
mentioned before..

Unfortunately, I don't know how to recreate the problem so all I can do
if the problem is happened just do some killall - 9 asterisk :(...

Regads,

Stevanus

Moises Silva wrote:

  Thanks for clarifying that Paul. my output for getconf is:

linuxthreads-0.10

so i guess is "normal" to have several threads shown by "ps axu" right?



On 4/17/06, Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
  
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 19:12 +0200, Paul Hewlett wrote:



This is incorrect. Asterisk is a multithreaded system but how the threads
are handled by the OS  depends on the version of threads that is being used.
   For Linuxthreads (kernel 2.4), one would see a separate entry for each
thread when executing 'ps aux'. For NPTL (linux 2.6) one does not see each
thread as a separate entry. So the OP must tell us which kernel version he is
using. Alternatively type

 getconf  GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION

as root. For NPTL u should get something like

 NPTL 2.3.5

or suchlike.

If you are using NPTL and there is more than one entry for asterisk, then
asterisk has spawned an extra process for some reason. If extra processes
keep appearing then I would say that he has a bug or error somewhere and
asterisk is  respawning that separate process.

  

Are you sure?

root  2532  0.0  0.2   2532   620 ?S17:22
0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk
root  2539  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2542  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2544  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2545  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2546  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2547  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2548  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2549  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2550  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2551  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2552  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2553  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2554  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2555  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2556  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2557  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2558  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2559  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2560  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2561  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2562  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2563  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2564  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:01
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2565  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2566  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2567  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c

With NPTL 2.3.6

If that is the case * is totally hosed, no?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread Moises Silva
Thanks for clarifying that Paul. my output for getconf is:

linuxthreads-0.10

so i guess is "normal" to have several threads shown by "ps axu" right?



On 4/17/06, Dave Cotton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 19:12 +0200, Paul Hewlett wrote:
>
> >   This is incorrect. Asterisk is a multithreaded system but how the threads
> > are handled by the OS  depends on the version of threads that is being used.
> >For Linuxthreads (kernel 2.4), one would see a separate entry for each
> > thread when executing 'ps aux'. For NPTL (linux 2.6) one does not see each
> > thread as a separate entry. So the OP must tell us which kernel version he 
> > is
> > using. Alternatively type
> >
> >  getconf  GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
> >
> > as root. For NPTL u should get something like
> >
> >  NPTL 2.3.5
> >
> > or suchlike.
> >
> > If you are using NPTL and there is more than one entry for asterisk, then
> > asterisk has spawned an extra process for some reason. If extra processes
> > keep appearing then I would say that he has a bug or error somewhere and
> > asterisk is  respawning that separate process.
> >
>
> Are you sure?
>
> root  2532  0.0  0.2   2532   620 ?S17:22
> 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk
> root  2539  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2542  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2544  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2545  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2546  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2547  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2548  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2549  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2550  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2551  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2552  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2553  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2554  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2555  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2556  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2557  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2558  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2559  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2560  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2561  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2562  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2563  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2564  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:01
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2565  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2566  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
> root  2567  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
> asterisk -n -vvvg -c
>
> With NPTL 2.3.6
>
> If that is the case * is totally hosed, no?
>
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread Dave Cotton
On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 19:12 +0200, Paul Hewlett wrote:

>   This is incorrect. Asterisk is a multithreaded system but how the threads 
> are handled by the OS  depends on the version of threads that is being used.
>For Linuxthreads (kernel 2.4), one would see a separate entry for each 
> thread when executing 'ps aux'. For NPTL (linux 2.6) one does not see each 
> thread as a separate entry. So the OP must tell us which kernel version he is 
> using. Alternatively type
> 
>  getconf  GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION
> 
> as root. For NPTL u should get something like
> 
>  NPTL 2.3.5
> 
> or suchlike.
> 
> If you are using NPTL and there is more than one entry for asterisk, then 
> asterisk has spawned an extra process for some reason. If extra processes 
> keep appearing then I would say that he has a bug or error somewhere and 
> asterisk is  respawning that separate process.
> 

Are you sure?

root  2532  0.0  0.2   2532   620 ?S17:22
0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/safe_asterisk
root  2539  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2542  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2544  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2545  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2546  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2547  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2548  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2549  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2550  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2551  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2552  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2553  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2554  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2555  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2556  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2557  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2558  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2559  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2560  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2561  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2562  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2563  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2564  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:01
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2565  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2566  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c
root  2567  0.0  2.8  17716  7316 ?S17:22   0:00
asterisk -n -vvvg -c

With NPTL 2.3.6

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread Paul Hewlett
On Monday 17 April 2006 16:03, Moises Silva wrote:
> Asterisk is a multithreaded system. I have not in mind how many
> threads open and where. But ie, if you have enabled pbx_spool.so to
> generate calls from files, that module launch its own thread to
> monitor the calls directory, MOH launch other thread, every channel
> has its own thread, the CLI has its own thread, to listen for calls in
> SIP, IAX, you need specific threads etc, etc, i would say what you see
> is normal.
>
> Regards

  This is incorrect. Asterisk is a multithreaded system but how the threads 
are handled by the OS  depends on the version of threads that is being used.
   For Linuxthreads (kernel 2.4), one would see a separate entry for each 
thread when executing 'ps aux'. For NPTL (linux 2.6) one does not see each 
thread as a separate entry. So the OP must tell us which kernel version he is 
using. Alternatively type

 getconf  GNU_LIBPTHREAD_VERSION

as root. For NPTL u should get something like

 NPTL 2.3.5

or suchlike.

If you are using NPTL and there is more than one entry for asterisk, then 
asterisk has spawned an extra process for some reason. If extra processes 
keep appearing then I would say that he has a bug or error somewhere and 
asterisk is  respawning that separate process.

Paul Hewlett

>
> On 4/17/06, Lee Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had this and no one could really answer it.  I only get it 1 of my
> > systems.  I've tried a few things, from removing zaptel watchdog - since
> > I contacted the telco and they said I had a hung channel, to rebuilding
> > * with different options.  Are you configuring * manually or using a
> > GUI?
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stevanus
> > Sent: 17 April 2006 10:10
> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why does my asterisk keep forking instances at random times everyday?
> >
> > When I do ps aux, I got this:
> >
> > asterisk 13068  2.2  5.1 25924 12276 ?   Sl   06:00  13:18 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk 23558  0.0  5.1 26040 12248 ?   S09:57   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk 29832  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S11:48   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk 31872  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S12:32   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk  2520  0.0  5.1 25928 12228 ?   S13:21   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk  4638  0.0  5.1 25924 12232 ?   S13:50   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk  5126  0.0  5.1 25932 12240 ?   S13:57   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> > asterisk  6487  0.0  5.1 26016 12336 ?   S14:23   0:00 asterisk
> > -vvvg -c
> >
> > Is this normal?
> > Does anyone experience this?
> >
> > Thanks..
> >
> > Regards,
> >
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread Moises Silva
Asterisk is a multithreaded system. I have not in mind how many
threads open and where. But ie, if you have enabled pbx_spool.so to
generate calls from files, that module launch its own thread to
monitor the calls directory, MOH launch other thread, every channel
has its own thread, the CLI has its own thread, to listen for calls in
SIP, IAX, you need specific threads etc, etc, i would say what you see
is normal.

Regards

On 4/17/06, Lee Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had this and no one could really answer it.  I only get it 1 of my
> systems.  I've tried a few things, from removing zaptel watchdog - since
> I contacted the telco and they said I had a hung channel, to rebuilding
> * with different options.  Are you configuring * manually or using a
> GUI?
>
> Lee
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of stevanus
> Sent: 17 April 2006 10:10
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?
>
> Hi,
>
> Why does my asterisk keep forking instances at random times everyday?
>
> When I do ps aux, I got this:
>
> asterisk 13068  2.2  5.1 25924 12276 ?   Sl   06:00  13:18 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk 23558  0.0  5.1 26040 12248 ?   S09:57   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk 29832  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S11:48   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk 31872  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S12:32   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk  2520  0.0  5.1 25928 12228 ?   S13:21   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk  4638  0.0  5.1 25924 12232 ?   S13:50   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk  5126  0.0  5.1 25932 12240 ?   S13:57   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
> asterisk  6487  0.0  5.1 26016 12336 ?   S14:23   0:00 asterisk
> -vvvg -c
>
> Is this normal?
> Does anyone experience this?
>
> Thanks..
>
> Regards,
>
> Stevanus
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

2006-04-17 Thread Lee Archer
I had this and no one could really answer it.  I only get it 1 of my
systems.  I've tried a few things, from removing zaptel watchdog - since
I contacted the telco and they said I had a hung channel, to rebuilding
* with different options.  Are you configuring * manually or using a
GUI?

Lee

-Original Message-
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Sent: 17 April 2006 10:10
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] multiple asterisk process ?

Hi,

Why does my asterisk keep forking instances at random times everyday?

When I do ps aux, I got this:

asterisk 13068  2.2  5.1 25924 12276 ?   Sl   06:00  13:18 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk 23558  0.0  5.1 26040 12248 ?   S09:57   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk 29832  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S11:48   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk 31872  0.0  5.1 25924 12208 ?   S12:32   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk  2520  0.0  5.1 25928 12228 ?   S13:21   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk  4638  0.0  5.1 25924 12232 ?   S13:50   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk  5126  0.0  5.1 25932 12240 ?   S13:57   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c
asterisk  6487  0.0  5.1 26016 12336 ?   S14:23   0:00 asterisk 
-vvvg -c

Is this normal?
Does anyone experience this?

Thanks..

Regards,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-24 Thread Brancaleoni Matteo

Hi
Il giorno mer, 24-11-2004 alle 19:48 +0100, Ming-Wei Shih ha scritto:
> Hong Kim wrote:
> 
> >I'm running * on Redhat9 with E100P and ISDN PRI.
> >When I executed asterisk, I could see about 25
> >asterisk processes.
> >Did someone experienced this?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Hong

> I only see one :)
> 
> $ ps -ef |grep asterisk
> root 12536 1  0 Nov22 ?00:00:00 /opt/asterisk/sbin/asterisk
> xming 7486  7481  0 19:44 pts/000:00:00 grep asterisk
> $
> 
> let me guess, you are using 2.4.x kernel? In 2.4 kernel, all threads are
> listed ad processes

not only kernel, but depends also on "ps" version.
On rh9 I see only 1 proc, of FC1 (also kern 2.4, but newer "ps")
I see all the threads.

Matteo.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-24 Thread Ming-Wei Shih
Hong Kim wrote:
I'm running * on Redhat9 with E100P and ISDN PRI.
When I executed asterisk, I could see about 25
asterisk processes.
Did someone experienced this?
Regards,
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I only see one :)
$ ps -ef |grep asterisk
root 12536 1  0 Nov22 ?00:00:00 /opt/asterisk/sbin/asterisk
xming 7486  7481  0 19:44 pts/000:00:00 grep asterisk
$
let me guess, you are using 2.4.x kernel? In 2.4 kernel, all threads are
listed ad processes
Ming-Wei

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-20 Thread Soren Rathje
David Boyd wrote:

[snip]

>
> Greg, you need chill; take a deep breath; now say to yourself, let it
> g!!
>

Does "hypertensio arteriale" and "myocardial infarction" ring a bell..?

> Critch, has the right to respond, anyway he desires.  People need to
> be responsible for themselves and their actions, and in particular
> they need to defend themselves if they feel attacked or insulted.
>
> I have not seen a response from the individual who posted the original
> question (Hong) reply at all to the thread; if he isn't concerned then
> why are you?
>

He probably resigned from the maillinglist screaming...

> Why do you think the list as a whole reflects something about you,
> only your posts say anything about you.
>
> I don't wonder at all about Linux catching on, it is, one informed
> user at a time!
>

Can we conclude that the following chinese proverb still is valid ??

"He who asks may be a fool for five minutes.  But he who does not ask
remains a fool forever."

On the other hand... This may be more appropriate...

"Accept that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue."
Scott Adams.

:-)

/Soren

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-20 Thread Chris A. Icide
On 10:42 AM 11/20/2004, Jose Hernandez wrote:
>
>>Did you bother using google?
>
>I searched google but could not find an answer. Any other suggestions?
>
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-April/043852.html
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-20 Thread David Boyd
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 01:32, Gregory Junker wrote:
> > Add to it, my message wasn't a flame but rather a terse comment. Your
> 
> Never said it was a flame. I said it was in a tone virutally guaranteed 
> to make the guy consider you and everyone on the list to be a conceited 
> jackass.
> 
> The difference in your perception of your replies (the one I snipped 
> included) and the way you actually come off in public, is the problem. 
> You think you are being terse. You actually thought your post directed 
> the guy to the "answer repository". He probably did end up going to 
> Google, but I'll bet he loses interest in Asterisk before long. I guess 
> your work is done here then, right? If they guy isn't an expert, he has 
> no hope of learning, huh?
> 
> And they wonder why Linux doesn't catch on...
> 
> 
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Greg, you need chill; take a deep breath; now say to yourself, let it
g!! 

Critch, has the right to respond, anyway he desires.  People need to be
responsible for themselves and their actions, and in particular they
need to defend themselves if they feel attacked or insulted. 

I have not seen a response from the individual who posted the original
question (Hong) reply at all to the thread; if he isn't concerned then
why are you?

Why do you think the list as a whole reflects something about you, only
your posts say anything about you.

I don't wonder at all about Linux catching on, it is, one informed user
at a time!

Dave


P.s.  Sorry for bottom posting in my reply;)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Junker
Add to it, my message wasn't a flame but rather a terse comment. Your
Never said it was a flame. I said it was in a tone virutally guaranteed 
to make the guy consider you and everyone on the list to be a conceited 
jackass.

The difference in your perception of your replies (the one I snipped 
included) and the way you actually come off in public, is the problem. 
You think you are being terse. You actually thought your post directed 
the guy to the "answer repository". He probably did end up going to 
Google, but I'll bet he loses interest in Asterisk before long. I guess 
your work is done here then, right? If they guy isn't an expert, he has 
no hope of learning, huh?

And they wonder why Linux doesn't catch on...
Greg
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 01:02 -0500, Gregory Junker wrote:
> This was addressed in a different thread, as I recall, regarding 
> "newbie" posters, and it was decided, as far as I could tell, that no 
> benefit would be had of such a thing. The feeling was that newbies 
> should benefit from veteran experience too.

Must have been covered in a thread I didn't see worthy of me looking
into. Probably had something in the subject line that was totally
unrelated to the subject discussed or was part of the whining annoyance
that was the top-posting thread that I ignored most of. 

As many of us do actually skip a fair number of the messages that do
make it out, I guess it might have been decided by such a small
percentage of people as to be meaningless. Add to it that no one that
probably decided had any authority to enforce it on anyone. 

Add to it, my message wasn't a flame but rather a terse comment. Your
complaint about me being terse has caused you to look like an ass. The
veterans of this group have put our effort into getting the questions
answered. They are in the archive. Most of the veterans are programmers,
and the lot of a programmer is to make a computer do the work instead of
a person. So when we say use google, we are routing the user to the
already in place answer repository.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Junker
oh hell I give up, this is the third time that THunderbird would have 
sent my mail on its own, what am I on a timer?

At any rate, the point is that I'll bet that even you, Steve, didn't 
fall out of the crib knowing everything there is to know, and that at 
some point, you even asked questions of someone who felt the same way 
you do (at least at times)but the difference was, he either answered 
your questions to your satisfaction, or politely directed you to where 
the answer could be found? I'll bet you didn't get many responses along 
the lines of "Jesus dude, don't you have a clue? What are you, a damn 
moron? Why are you bothering me with this sh*t? Go find out for 
yourself!!!" And if you did, I'll bet you didn't ask him again.

Problem is, when you respond like that, it reflects, unfortunately, 
poorly on the whole list body politic. And since I am not as world-weary 
as you are, I simply ask that if you cannot be polite, then don't reply 
to newb questions. It's really that simple.

Greg
Gregory Junker wrote:
This was addressed in a different thread, as I recall, regarding 
"newbie" posters, and it was decided, as far as I could tell, that no 
benefit would be had of such a thing. The feeling was that newbies 
should benefit from veteran experience too.

Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 00:42 -0500, Gregory Junker wrote:
And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people 
in public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no 
matter how many times the question has been asked.

And what benefit is it to the list for someone who isn't going to be
bothered to spend 2 minutes on a path of self enlightenment? 2 minutes
might even be more than necessary for one who has spent any time on that
path.
The level of sophistication needed for running a asterisk box needs
someone who at least exhibits more than a second grade education. What
grade did your school actually quit spoon feeding you every fact and
start asking you to use the tools in front of you to answer questions? 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Junker
This was addressed in a different thread, as I recall, regarding 
"newbie" posters, and it was decided, as far as I could tell, that no 
benefit would be had of such a thing. The feeling was that newbies 
should benefit from veteran experience too.

Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 00:42 -0500, Gregory Junker wrote:
And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people in 
public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no matter 
how many times the question has been asked.

And what benefit is it to the list for someone who isn't going to be
bothered to spend 2 minutes on a path of self enlightenment? 2 minutes
might even be more than necessary for one who has spent any time on that
path.
The level of sophistication needed for running a asterisk box needs
someone who at least exhibits more than a second grade education. What
grade did your school actually quit spoon feeding you every fact and
start asking you to use the tools in front of you to answer questions? 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Junker
I *do* do the same for his posts. Every hundredth one or so, I feel it 
necessary to let the poor guy or gal who was unlucky enough to ask a 
simple question that "Critch" felt the need to answer, that we all were 
not like that. As a result, that person might even ask another question 
someday.

Instead of being an ass about it, Steve could just as easily said:
"You can find the information you seek on Google.". It's only a few more 
words, and far more cordial.

Greg
Matt Riddell wrote:
Gregory Junker wrote:
And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people 
in public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no 
matter how many times the question has been asked.

Maybe you could do the same for his posts.
8000 messages for first post (poster should have checked google - BTW 
its ok)

8000 messages for post telling him to search google
8000 messages for post telling Steven to ignore the mail
8000 messages for this post I am currently sending.
1. The first message shouldn't have been sent. (If everybody had ignored 
him he would have ended up at google anyway)

2. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th messages shouldn't have been sent (an extra 
24,000 mails sent out) - and yes I know the 4th is my mail.

3. Maybe a new rule :-)  Don't flame, but if someone does, don't respond 
to it.  It will go away if you ignore it.

Oh yeah, and sorry for polluting the net with this post...hopefully 
it'll be the last on the subject.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Sat, 2004-11-20 at 00:42 -0500, Gregory Junker wrote:
> And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
> 
> Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people in 
> public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no matter 
> how many times the question has been asked.

And what benefit is it to the list for someone who isn't going to be
bothered to spend 2 minutes on a path of self enlightenment? 2 minutes
might even be more than necessary for one who has spent any time on that
path.

The level of sophistication needed for running a asterisk box needs
someone who at least exhibits more than a second grade education. What
grade did your school actually quit spoon feeding you every fact and
start asking you to use the tools in front of you to answer questions? 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Matt Riddell
Gregory Junker wrote:
And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people in 
public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no matter 
how many times the question has been asked.
Maybe you could do the same for his posts.
8000 messages for first post (poster should have checked google - BTW 
its ok)

8000 messages for post telling him to search google
8000 messages for post telling Steven to ignore the mail
8000 messages for this post I am currently sending.
1. The first message shouldn't have been sent. (If everybody had ignored 
him he would have ended up at google anyway)

2. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th messages shouldn't have been sent (an extra 
24,000 mails sent out) - and yes I know the 4th is my mail.

3. Maybe a new rule :-)  Don't flame, but if someone does, don't respond 
to it.  It will go away if you ignore it.

Oh yeah, and sorry for polluting the net with this post...hopefully 
it'll be the last on the subject.

--
Cheers,
Matt Riddell
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Gregory Junker
And Steve provides yet another cordial, extremely helpful reply.
Really, friend, does it do *that* much for your ego to step on people in 
public? If you can't be friendly, just ignore the damn email, no matter 
how many times the question has been asked.

Greg
Steven Critchfield wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 21:08 -0800, Hong Kim wrote:
I'm running * on Redhat9 with E100P and ISDN PRI.
When I executed asterisk, I could see about 25
asterisk processes.
Did someone experienced this?

Did you bother using google?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Multiple asterisk process

2004-11-19 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 21:08 -0800, Hong Kim wrote:
> I'm running * on Redhat9 with E100P and ISDN PRI.
> When I executed asterisk, I could see about 25
> asterisk processes.
> Did someone experienced this?

Did you bother using google?
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