Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Sáb 22 Jan 2005 07:51, Dan escreveu: Hi all, There is someone on this list having latency issues with DIAX who can do this trace? I'm not able to dupplicate this behaviour here and as I'm behind a NAT I cannot use 2 DIAX phones connected to an external Asterisk server (or there is a workaround for this?). Hi Dan. I could help on it, but I'll be able to get this trace only on wednesday 26... Tks. -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Denis, - Original Message - From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Em Sáb 22 Jan 2005 07:51, Dan escreveu: Hi all, There is someone on this list having latency issues with DIAX who can do this trace? I'm not able to dupplicate this behaviour here and as I'm behind a NAT I cannot use 2 DIAX phones connected to an external Asterisk server (or there is a workaround for this?). I could help on it, but I'll be able to get this trace only on wednesday 26... I have send one trace of such a call to Steve to further debug iaxclient library. Thanks a lot, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi all, - Original Message - From: Steve Kann ..Quote What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. /Quote There is someone on this list having latency issues with DIAX who can do this trace? I'm not able to dupplicate this behaviour here and as I'm behind a NAT I cannot use 2 DIAX phones connected to an external Asterisk server (or there is a workaround for this?). Thank you, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 19:13, Steve Kann escreveu: I've already replied, asking for a trace.. If you get the trace, and send it, we can look at what is actually happening: Quote What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. /Quote Hi Steve. I will do it, but I cant today. How could you get some info with a call trace from ethereal!? You will have a lot of traffic between 4569 UDP(IAX2) from both sides, how could you have a diagnostic of the problem!? Thanks and best regards. -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Denis Galvo - iSolve wrote: Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 19:13, Steve Kann escreveu: I've already replied, asking for a trace.. If you get the trace, and send it, we can look at what is actually happening: Quote What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. /Quote Hi Steve. I will do it, but I cant today. How could you get some info with a call trace from ethereal!? You will have a lot of traffic between 4569 UDP(IAX2) from both sides, how could you have a diagnostic of the problem!? Because you can look at the individual packets, their timestamps, and their actual time of arrival -- ethereal parses IAX2 traffic. Thanks and best regards. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Dan, Steve, Michael, Bruno and others. I will try to describe my VoIP environment below: SERVER: - FC1 with Asterisk CVS-v1-0-11/04/04-23:47:17 - iax.conf [general] bindport = 4569 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0 delayreject=yes disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=alaw allow=gsm tos=lowdelay jitterbuffer=no dropcount=2 maxjitterbuffer=100 maxexccessbuffer=100 mailboxdetail=yes [1001] callerid=Ramal 1001 1001 context=from-internal host=dynamic mailbox=1001 notransfer=yes port=4569 secret= type=friend username=1001 [1002] callerid=Ramal 1002 1002 context=from-internal host=dynamic mailbox=1002 notransfer=yes port=4569 secret= type=friend username=1002 CLIENT 1001: - Windows XP - DIAX 0.9.9g - Firefly 1.9.6 Build 3944 - USB Phone NTP200E - Compatible with ATCOM USB Phone - AMD 1.8Ghz with 256Mb CLIENT 1002: - Windows XP - DIAX 0.9.9g - Firefly 1.9.6 Build 3944 - USB Phone NTP200E - Compatible with ATCOM USB Phone - AMD 1.66Ghz with 256Mb ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - All machines are in the same network(192.168.*.*) no firewall in the middle; - With Firefly I have a VERY GOOD conversation, without any delay; - With DIAX I have a one way delay of 10 sec. Only the person who recieve the call get the delay, the person who make the call listen without problems; - Firefly in one side and DIAX in the other side, same delay problem; - No problems with SIP; - No problems(delay) with Linux clients runnig IaxComm 0.99pre11; - Same problem with DIAX oldest DLL; - Ping from clients to server: 0% packet loss and 1ms; - No problems calling PSTN, Voicemail, etc, just between DIAX clients; If you need something else, let me know! Thanks for your help! Denis Galvão. Em Dom 16 Jan 2005 19:52, Steve Kann escreveu: On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Dan wrote: Hi Steve, - Original Message - From: Steve Kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. Dan et. al, I think this might be a problem with native transfers, and needing to reset the jitterbuffer history when this happens, or something like this.. -SteveK But I have tried and I do don't have this problem here... What can I do to make this happen here? I don't know... Maybe if we could get a packet trace of the situation that causes the problem? Maybe try notransfer or whatever the iax.conf parameter is, and see if that changes things. If it does, it points towards this being the problem. If the delay goes down after a couple of minutes after the transfer, this could be the problem. If it doesn't, there's something else really wrong.. (I'm assuming you're using the new JB code here..). Also, if you're using the new JB code, you should implement the stuff to get the network stats, so we can see if calculated jitter is substantially higher..) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Two more information: 1. I've played with all suported codecs, same problems for all of them. 2. After aprox. 1 minute of conversation the delay problem doesn't occur, or better, it is very less(some miliseconds) than the begining(10 seconds) of a call. Any ideas!? Denis. Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 11:51, Denis Galvão - iSolve escreveu: Hi Dan, Steve, Michael, Bruno and others. I will try to describe my VoIP environment below: SERVER: - FC1 with Asterisk CVS-v1-0-11/04/04-23:47:17 - iax.conf [general] bindport = 4569 bindaddr = 0.0.0.0 delayreject=yes disallow=all allow=ulaw allow=alaw allow=gsm tos=lowdelay jitterbuffer=no dropcount=2 maxjitterbuffer=100 maxexccessbuffer=100 mailboxdetail=yes [1001] callerid=Ramal 1001 1001 context=from-internal host=dynamic mailbox=1001 notransfer=yes port=4569 secret= type=friend username=1001 [1002] callerid=Ramal 1002 1002 context=from-internal host=dynamic mailbox=1002 notransfer=yes port=4569 secret= type=friend username=1002 CLIENT 1001: - Windows XP - DIAX 0.9.9g - Firefly 1.9.6 Build 3944 - USB Phone NTP200E - Compatible with ATCOM USB Phone - AMD 1.8Ghz with 256Mb CLIENT 1002: - Windows XP - DIAX 0.9.9g - Firefly 1.9.6 Build 3944 - USB Phone NTP200E - Compatible with ATCOM USB Phone - AMD 1.66Ghz with 256Mb ADDITIONAL INFORMATION - All machines are in the same network(192.168.*.*) no firewall in the middle; - With Firefly I have a VERY GOOD conversation, without any delay; - With DIAX I have a one way delay of 10 sec. Only the person who recieve the call get the delay, the person who make the call listen without problems; - Firefly in one side and DIAX in the other side, same delay problem; - No problems with SIP; - No problems(delay) with Linux clients runnig IaxComm 0.99pre11; - Same problem with DIAX oldest DLL; - Ping from clients to server: 0% packet loss and 1ms; - No problems calling PSTN, Voicemail, etc, just between DIAX clients; If you need something else, let me know! Thanks for your help! Denis Galvão. Em Dom 16 Jan 2005 19:52, Steve Kann escreveu: On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Dan wrote: Hi Steve, - Original Message - From: Steve Kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. Dan et. al, I think this might be a problem with native transfers, and needing to reset the jitterbuffer history when this happens, or something like this.. -SteveK But I have tried and I do don't have this problem here... What can I do to make this happen here? I don't know... Maybe if we could get a packet trace of the situation that causes the problem? Maybe try notransfer or whatever the iax.conf parameter is, and see if that changes things. If it does, it points towards this being the problem. If the delay goes down after a couple of minutes after the transfer, this could be the problem. If it doesn't, there's something else really wrong.. (I'm assuming you're using the new JB code here..). Also, if you're using the new JB code, you should implement the stuff to get the network stats, so we can see if calculated jitter is substantially higher..) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Denis, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... - Same problem with DIAX oldest DLL; It is not an old DLL, but the same DLL build with NEW JITERBUFFER 0 Please try an older version of DIAX, like 0.9.8c. You can still download it from: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax098c.zip or even older: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. If not, then it must be something in the new library and we will dig further. Thank you and best regards, Dan P.S. Pls tell me the version working without delay... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Denis Galvão - iSolve wrote: Two more information: 1. I've played with all suported codecs, same problems for all of them. 2. After aprox. 1 minute of conversation the delay problem doesn't occur, or better, it is very less(some miliseconds) than the begining(10 seconds) of a call. Any ideas!? Yes, it sounds like there's a discontinuity in the timestamps when you set up your call, but it seems Dan can't reproduce this. The fix is probably: a) The jitterbuffer needs to be reset after the transfer, or b) The timestamps sent need to be reset after the transfer. c) Some changes to the jitterbuffer to automatically reset when it sees this kind of discontinuity. (c can probably be combined with a and/or b). I forget if you tried setting notransfer=yes on asterisk to see what that does? What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. -SteveK ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 13:51, Steve Kann escreveu: Yes, it sounds like there's a discontinuity in the timestamps when you set up your call, but it seems Dan can't reproduce this. The fix is probably: a) The jitterbuffer needs to be reset after the transfer, or b) The timestamps sent need to be reset after the transfer. c) Some changes to the jitterbuffer to automatically reset when it sees this kind of discontinuity. (c can probably be combined with a and/or b). I forget if you tried setting notransfer=yes on asterisk to see what that does? Yes, Im using notransfer=yes, like my iax extension: [1001] callerid=Ramal 1001 1001 context=from-internal host=dynamic mailbox=1001 notransfer=yes port=4569 secret=1001 type=friend username=1001 What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. Ok, I will do it. Thanks Steve. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 13:43, Dan escreveu: Hi Denis, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... - Same problem with DIAX oldest DLL; It is not an old DLL, but the same DLL build with NEW JITERBUFFER 0 Please try an older version of DIAX, like 0.9.8c. You can still download it from: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax098c.zip or even older: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. If not, then it must be something in the new library and we will dig further. Thank you and best regards, Dan P.S. Pls tell me the version working without delay... Ok, Dan, I will try it out, and I'll inform you the results. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Dan. Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 13:43, Dan escreveu: Hi Denis, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... - Same problem with DIAX oldest DLL; It is not an old DLL, but the same DLL build with NEW JITERBUFFER 0 Please try an older version of DIAX, like 0.9.8c. You can still download it from: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax098c.zip or even older: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. If not, then it must be something in the new library and we will dig further. Thank you and best regards, Dan P.S. Pls tell me the version working without delay... ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? Can you check the older ones too? http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. Thank you and best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
I cant download from this location: Connection Refused wget http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip --16:02:08-- http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip = `diax095.zip' Resolving www.laser.com... 216.167.90.224 Connecting to www.laser.com[216.167.90.224]:80... failed: Conexão recusada. Denis. Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 15:59, Dan escreveu: Hi, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? Can you check the older ones too? http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. Thank you and best regards, Dan -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Exactly the same problem for all of them(097a, 096d and 095). The delay is getting down by the time of conversation. After aprox 1 minute, or even less, the delay is totaly off. Denis. Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 15:59, Dan escreveu: Hi, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? Can you check the older ones too? http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax097a.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax096d.zip http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/diax095.zip and see if the problem persist. Thank you and best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exactly the same problem for all of them(097a, 096d and 095). The delay is getting down by the time of conversation. After aprox 1 minute, or even less, the delay is totaly off. If they are other users following this thread, please send me your Asterisk version and if you have or not this problem when calling between 2 DIAX clients. Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Denis, Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? What's very strange is that I cannot reproduce this behaviour, trying with different PCs and different DIAX versions and settings. Which Asterisk version do you have installed? I have now and it works in any circumstances the following: CVS-D2004.09.20.21.00.00-11/11/04-16:24:55 It can be related to this? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 16:47, Dan escreveu: Hi Denis, Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? What's very strange is that I cannot reproduce this behaviour, trying with different PCs and different DIAX versions and settings. Which Asterisk version do you have installed? I have now and it works in any circumstances the following: CVS-D2004.09.20.21.00.00-11/11/04-16:24:55 It can be related to this? Thats the Asterisk version that I'm playing with: Asterisk CVS-v1-0-11/04/04-23:47:17 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux I dont know if it could be a problem... Anyone!? Someone that have the same version of mine could test it with two DIAX!? Tks. Denis ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Denis Galvo - iSolve wrote: Em Seg 17 Jan 2005 16:47, Dan escreveu: Hi Denis, Same problem with version 0.9.8c After one minute aprox, delay disappear. Any ideas!? What's very strange is that I cannot reproduce this behaviour, trying with different PCs and different DIAX versions and settings. Which Asterisk version do you have installed? I have now and it works in any circumstances the following: CVS-D2004.09.20.21.00.00-11/11/04-16:24:55 It can be related to this? Thats the Asterisk version that I'm playing with: Asterisk CVS-v1-0-11/04/04-23:47:17 built by [EMAIL PROTECTED] on a i686 running Linux I dont know if it could be a problem... Anyone!? I've already replied, asking for a trace.. If you get the trace, and send it, we can look at what is actually happening: Quote What would really help, though, is a packet trace of the call. The best way to get this is to use either ethereal or tcpdump. (there is an ethereal for windows). If you use ethereal for Windows, have it capture all udp, make the call, and have it stay up for about 30 seconds, and save the file. You can then send that file to me, and I'll be able to see what's going on a lot better than guessing here.. /Quote -SteveK ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. Dan et. al, I think this might be a problem with native transfers, and needing to reset the jitterbuffer history when this happens, or something like this.. -SteveK ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Steve, - Original Message - From: Steve Kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. Dan et. al, I think this might be a problem with native transfers, and needing to reset the jitterbuffer history when this happens, or something like this.. -SteveK But I have tried and I do don't have this problem here... What can I do to make this happen here? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Jan 16, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Dan wrote: Hi Steve, - Original Message - From: Steve Kann [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Jan 14, 2005, at 2:03 PM, Dan wrote: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. Dan et. al, I think this might be a problem with native transfers, and needing to reset the jitterbuffer history when this happens, or something like this.. -SteveK But I have tried and I do don't have this problem here... What can I do to make this happen here? I don't know... Maybe if we could get a packet trace of the situation that causes the problem? Maybe try notransfer or whatever the iax.conf parameter is, and see if that changes things. If it does, it points towards this being the problem. If the delay goes down after a couple of minutes after the transfer, this could be the problem. If it doesn't, there's something else really wrong.. (I'm assuming you're using the new JB code here..). Also, if you're using the new JB code, you should implement the stuff to get the network stats, so we can see if calculated jitter is substantially higher..) ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Sun, 2005-01-16 at 16:52 -0500, Steve Kann wrote: If the delay goes down after a couple of minutes after the transfer, this could be the problem. Just fyi, this is what I observed with those delays between iaxcomm and firefly, i.e. they occurred on a transfer attempt and normalized after some minutes of talking. Wouldn't be surprised if the transfer was the problem here, too. What I'm not sure about is, due to lack of thorough debugging, whether this is a * or iaxclient library issue ... Regards, Bruno. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 18:03, Bruno Hertz escreveu: On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:27 -0200, Denis Galvo - iSolve wrote: Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:11, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. With * in the middle or direct calls? I had problems with iaxcomm - * - firefly communication when * attempted a transfer. Huge latencies (10 sec or so). Might be a bug in the iaxclient library, just don't know. Asterisk in the middle. Try out Firefly - * - Firefly, for me it worked out. I really want to use DIAX, Im working to solve(detect the problem) this issue. Any help will be great. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Dan. I have the same delay problem with diax 0.9.9g. This problem just happen with DIAX softphone, with others(iaxcomm, firefly, etc.) doesn't occur. Im using an ATCOM compatible USB Phone. Is there anything that I can do to solve this issue!? Thanks in advance. Denis. Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 04:05, Dan escreveu: Hi all, DIAX 0.9.9g is available for download (including the updated help file and web page) from the following locations: http://www.laser.com/dante or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro What's new in 0.9.9g (from 0.9.9f): - during a call, accept DTMF tones as monitored events to trigger output commands - call timer on the phone display - Swedish language added - can run a command from the monitoring definition form, to test it - ENTER key validate all fields in the Registration form - you can select both preffered and accepted codecs - do not autoresize main form when receiving a call and monitoring activated - use /m switch to start DIAX minimized - saving only main form position, all others auto positioning relative to the main form solved bugs: - crash when trying to dial without registration server defined - Config Audio form positioning issue - not saving the main form when closing the app from the systray - X10 send error if CM11/12 interface has some commands in the receiver buffer - error if trying to delete for the second time the log file - unexpected crashes when registered with IAXTEL and/or other remote servers As usual, please send me your feedback. Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, - Original Message - From: Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same delay problem with diax 0.9.9g. This problem just happen with DIAX softphone, with others(iaxcomm, firefly, etc.) doesn't occur. Im using an ATCOM compatible USB Phone. Is there anything that I can do to solve this issue!? Have you trioed to play with the 'Latency' parameter in Audio Configuration form? Try between 40 and 200. IAXCOM I think use the default which is 200. Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi Denis, Doesn't have effect, the problem continue. The strange thing is that the delay is aprox 10-20 seconds!!! Too high!! Is there another thing to do!? I really want to use DIAX because it supprts my USB Phone and IAX protocol. I don't think your problem is DIAX related. Can you provide more info about your environment? In the Control Panel Sound Configuration have you selected MIC as only input for the used soundcard and wave out as the output? Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:18:36 +0200, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is there anything that I can do to solve this issue!? Have you trioed to play with the 'Latency' parameter in Audio Configuration form? Try between 40 and 200. IAXCOM I think use the default which is 200. The iaxclient default latency for windows was changed about two months ago to 40. There were a couple of reports of audio distortion, so it was kicked up to 67. I think you can get pretty agressive with this, just remember to check on the latency if you get distortion. Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 15:11, Michael Van Donselaar escreveu: The iaxclient default latency for windows was changed about two months ago to 40. There were a couple of reports of audio distortion, so it was kicked up to 67. I think you can get pretty agressive with this, just remember to check on the latency if you get distortion. I think the problem is not related to latency. I tried from 20 to 200 latency time, but the problem is the same: When: Jon - call - Fred Fred listen Jon without problems, but Jon listen Fred with 10 seconds of delay. When: Fred - call - Jon Jon listen Fred wihtout problems, but Fred listen Jon with 10 seconds of delay With Firefly Softphone(IAX2) I dont get this problem, everything works great. Thanks for any help. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:36:29 -0200, Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 15:11, Michael Van Donselaar escreveu: The iaxclient default latency for windows was changed about two months ago to 40. There were a couple of reports of audio distortion, so it was kicked up to 67. I think you can get pretty agressive with this, just remember to check on the latency if you get distortion. I think the problem is not related to latency. I tried from 20 to 200 latency time, but the problem is the same: Agreed. I was just pointing out for the archives that iaxComm has been using a lower latency as default for over a month (I followed Dan's lead on this). In your first message, you say that you're not having the problem with iaxComm. Which version of iaxComm? DIAX and iaxComm both use the iaxclient library, which has been in flux lately: lots of new features added. If your iaxComm is version 0.99pre4 or later, then I *think* it might be using a more bleeding-edge version of the iaxclient library. Some of the recent library work has been on the jitterbuffer code, which is much more likely to produce the kind of results you describe than portaudio latency tuning. When: Jon - call - Fred Fred listen Jon without problems, but Jon listen Fred with 10 seconds of delay. When: Fred - call - Jon Jon listen Fred wihtout problems, but Fred listen Jon with 10 seconds of delay With Firefly Softphone(IAX2) I dont get this problem, everything works great. Thanks for any help. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.11 - Release Date: 1/12/2005 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 15:11, Michael Van Donselaar escreveu: The iaxclient default latency for windows was changed about two months ago to 40. There were a couple of reports of audio distortion, so it was kicked up to 67. I think you can get pretty agressive with this, just remember to check on the latency if you get distortion. I think the problem is not related to latency. I tried from 20 to 200 latency time, but the problem is the same: When: Jon - call - Fred Fred listen Jon without problems, but Jon listen Fred with 10 seconds of delay. When: Fred - call - Jon Jon listen Fred wihtout problems, but Fred listen Jon with 10 seconds of delay With Firefly Softphone(IAX2) I dont get this problem, everything works great. Thanks for any help. I have modified the CallMe feature for DIAX to provide an Echo test. Just use it with 0.9.9g and see the result. To pass the explanation or to end the echo test just press '#'. You can still leave me a message after that. Thank you , Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, - Original Message - From: Michael Van Donselaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:36:29 -0200, Denis Galvão - iSolve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 15:11, Michael Van Donselaar escreveu: The iaxclient default latency for windows was changed about two months ago to 40. There were a couple of reports of audio distortion, so it was kicked up to 67. I think you can get pretty agressive with this, just remember to check on the latency if you get distortion. I think the problem is not related to latency. I tried from 20 to 200 latency time, but the problem is the same: Agreed. I was just pointing out for the archives that iaxComm has been using a lower latency as default for over a month (I followed Dan's lead on this). In your first message, you say that you're not having the problem with iaxComm. Which version of iaxComm? DIAX and iaxComm both use the iaxclient library, which has been in flux lately: lots of new features added. If your iaxComm is version 0.99pre4 or later, then I *think* it might be using a more bleeding-edge version of the iaxclient library. Some of the recent library work has been on the jitterbuffer code, which is much more likely to produce the kind of results you describe than portaudio latency tuning. DIAX 0.9.9g uses the latest available version of the iaxclient library. They are other peoples on this list encountering the same audio lag problem with DIAX 0.9.9g? Thanks and best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
DIAX and iaxComm both use the iaxclient library, which has been in flux lately: lots of new features added. If your iaxComm is version 0.99pre4 or later, then I *think* it might be using a more bleeding-edge version of the iaxclient library. Some of the recent library work has been on the jitterbuffer code, which is much more likely to produce the kind of results you describe than portaudio latency tuning. When: Jon - call - Fred Fred listen Jon without problems, but Jon listen Fred with 10 seconds of delay. When: Fred - call - Jon Jon listen Fred wihtout problems, but Fred listen Jon with 10 seconds of delay With Firefly Softphone(IAX2) I dont get this problem, everything works great. For the people with this problem, please try to use another version of the diax.dll which can be downloaded from: http://www.laser.com/dante/diax/wiax_jb_old.zip or http://www.geocities.com/tdanro/diax/wiax_jb_old.zip This use an older version of the jitter buffer. Please send me your feedback. Best regards, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:11, Dan escreveu: I have modified the CallMe feature for DIAX to provide an Echo test. Just use it with 0.9.9g and see the result. To pass the explanation or to end the echo test just press '#'. You can still leave me a message after that. I got the echo test. The result was fine, just a very SHORT delay, but nothing like my problem. I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Thanks for your help. Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
I have modified the CallMe feature for DIAX to provide an Echo test. Just use it with 0.9.9g and see the result. To pass the explanation or to end the echo test just press '#'. You can still leave me a message after that. I got the echo test. The result was fine, just a very SHORT delay, but nothing like my problem. I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? The phones are connected to the same PBX? The problem is the same independent of the codec used? BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. The phones are connected to the same PBX? Yes they are in the same Asterisk. The problem is the same independent of the codec used? Yes. I tried out all of the codecs available. Driving me nuts... Denis. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
Same problem with jitterbuffer=no I tried IaxComm, same problem of DIAX. This is related with iaxclient... Denis. Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 17:03, Dan escreveu: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
I tried IaxComm in two Linux boxes. Everything work fine, with USB Phones + IaxComm. So, the problem should be related to Windows OS!? Wich version of Windows are you using Dan!? Denis. Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 17:16, Denis Galvão - iSolve escreveu: Same problem with jitterbuffer=no I tried IaxComm, same problem of DIAX. This is related with iaxclient... Denis. Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 17:03, Dan escreveu: Hi, \ Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:43, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. Between 2 DIAX phone and the delay is in one direction only?? Yes. One direction only... Just who make the call get the delay. Then try jitterbuffer=no in iax.conf to see if it solves this issue. BR, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- D e n i s G a l v ã o iSolve - Solve Is Our Business Av. Candido de Abreu, 526 1206B CEP: 80530-000 - Curitiba - PR +55 41 252-2977 http://www.isolve.com.br ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] DIAX 0.9.9g more features and higher stability
On Fri, 2005-01-14 at 16:27 -0200, Denis Galvo - iSolve wrote: Em Sex 14 Jan 2005 16:11, Dan escreveu: I dont have problems when calling PSTN extensions, and calling VoceMail, EchoTest, etc. The problem is related with the conversation between two DIAX Softphones. With * in the middle or direct calls? I had problems with iaxcomm - * - firefly communication when * attempted a transfer. Huge latencies (10 sec or so). Might be a bug in the iaxclient library, just don't know. Regards, Bruno. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
