Re: Adding Radegast

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Re: Adding Radegast

ironcross32 wrote:You can access some things, but it's very visual. Going into SL blind feels like you have more of a disability than in the real world. You need help to do so many things that you wouldn't in real life, or that you may require minimal assistance in real life.Picking out clothing is one. You have to buy clothing, but since Radegast is a text-only client for a 3D game, you cannot access certain aspects of the clothing, i.e. the HUD that so many of them have for various options. So you need to find clothing that doesn't have the HUD. Then you actually need help getting dressed because there is no way to organize clothing so that you know what each piece is.There are events held in Second Life. Everything from conferences to concerts, speaking engagements, what have you. All these things you will be able to go to, but you will need help from someone else to know where to be. Without that, you'll either be standing at a random place, or you'll try to find a chair in the list and sit down, only for someone to tell you that you've just sat down on someone else.My conclusion about it is that it's not a game or an audio game, and that we can't play it without a lot of sighted help. I totally understand that some people do view this as a much better alternative to life. For instance, without giving too much away, I've met people on there with very serious disabilities that severely limit their physical capabilities in the real world. But what they have is the ability to see, so when they go into SL, they can feel free as a bird in there. I'm not trying to take that away from anyone. But it's just that if you're blind, you won't get that experience. You'll feel more of a burden in there than you do in real life. You won't be able to do as much as you can in real life, and you won't have access to even a tenth of a percent of the things that SL has to offer. This is why I'm not recommending it for candidacy in the database.I have absolutely no problem getting dressed or knowing what clothing items are in my inventory. It takes practice to learn how to get dressed in SL. As for going places, I never recieve any help in that area either. Second Life is not something you just are going to be able to walk in to and instantly grasp. It takes time because it is a huge environment.There are clothing huds, but huds are accessible if their buttons are labeled. A lot of us don't use huds for our clothes just because we prefer it hat way. That is a personal preference.

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Re: Adding Radegast

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pitermach wrote:I personally have no experience with second life and I do not believe any of the other editors do either. From what I gathered about reading about Radagast and all the other aproaches people used to use before, getting into SL currently would require someone to not only sit down and get used to the controls but also meet up with another person to give them a tutorial, so if it were to get an entry I think someone very familiar with the service would need to write a description.And, like Ironcross said, for something to get a database entry, it needs to let a blind person access almost every aspect of the game or there at least being simple work arounds to any remaining barriers, so that a blind person could play it completely independently to completion, or in the case of multiplayer, being able to access every feature without being left out of anything major. From what I know, Second life is an extremely complex game, with tons of side activities you can do. Does radagast let you access any of that or are you just mainly limited to walking around and talking to people?Yes, you can access virtually whatever you like in world. The only thing we can not do right now is drive a vehicle. The only reason why we can't do that is because arrow buttons are not displaying. They are there; the screen readers just are not recognizing them. But the developer, Cinder Roxley, has a fix for that and an update is expected any day now with the fix in place.You don't have to have someone teach you how to use Radegast. There is a guide on the website you can use to learn on your own. We wrote it that way so that people could access SL on their own without any problems should they choose. But I personally recommend that you accept a little help just to get used to Second Life itself as it is so detailed.

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Re: Adding Radegast

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ironcross32 wrote:I am against this. While the client may be accessible, Second Life is far from it. This forum is about audio games, and while it is undoubtedly true that SL has an audio component, that does not complete the experience.Blind people are able to access a fraction of a fraction of a percent of all sims out there independently, so my position on this would be that it doesn't fulfill the accessibility criterion.It also doesn't fit the nature of a game, since it tries to be well, a second life. Given these two points, I think it's not advisable to add Radegast to the database.As osmeone who uses Second Life independently every day I totally disagree. What have you actually done in world? I fish all the time, create potions, have worked as a reporter, attend concerts, go to clubs, host events all over the grid, work with one of the major in world gaming companies. I say that to say I do whatever I want to in world. I am a fashionista with a huge collection of clothes and shoes, I am a fisher, a community leader. Most people don't even know I am blind unless I tell them. I rarely run in to problems in world and if I do I contact the sim owner and they are usually more than happy to make things more accessible.

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ashleygrobler04 wrote:i wanted to use this thing for a while, but i don't know how to get started...We are having a class tomrrow night at 6:00 PM PST. Register a Second Life account at:http://www.virtualability.organd get a copy of Radegast here:radegast.lifeThen log in and join us! I am blind and I love SL. Have been a happy resident for nine years.

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Adding Radegast

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I am not sure who I need to contact for this so I am putting it here. Radegast is an accessible Second Life client and I was wondering if it might be possible to get it added to the list of games?Here is the program: radegast.lifeThank you!

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Text-SL is No Longer Active

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Hi, Admin. I notice that you have text-sl listed on the site. This was an experiment and has not been around for quite some time.You can list Second Life and the link to Radegast, an accessible Second Life client, in its place if you wish.https://radegast.life/downloads/is the link to it.Hope this helps!

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