Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Bamboo via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hi everybody:There is a skill called potion lore that allows you to see what your results and the chances of producing said results are. As you level mage more, there are also skills like reagent lore and brew focus that allow a player to fine tune their brewing capabilities further.Coldfire is a damage spell, as well as a source for a spellcomp, but is basically used exclusively as a spellcomp generator at mid to high levels. Even if you wear a full set of necro cast level, a coldfire will do almost no damage.In terms of the level changes, Dentin has been geographically cleaning the newbie islands to ensure that areas that have exits into new areas are similar in level so newbies don't wander into an area and suddenly die in a single hit. There is a large amount of releveling in areas to make the newbie experience much more fluid and seemless without any sudden level gaps.There are a couple harder mobs in most areas that may either be fame mobs or
  necessary to kill for deeds. These mobs may be more difficult, but shouldn't destroy you if you are within the recommended levels. Keep in mind that most casters should be wearing a decent amount of cast level when they are trying to generate a ton of damage quickly, and that warriors and thieves need hitroll, damroll, and a good weapon to achieve this. Having defensive spells in place, most importantly sanctuary, will also make a world of a difference. Watching the mob will also let you know what kinds of damage the mob is using to hurt you, and you can reduce damage done to your hp significantly by wearing the proper saves, also known as resistances, to counter it. If you are still having trouble, there's no shame in asking for help and just bum rushing the mob with a group to take it down, haha.Finally, the game is very friendly to class reorganization, and with a chunk of experience you can reorder your classes without too much of a problem. The game is really 
 forgiving so that characters don't feel like they need to restart, as repair is in many cases a cheaper and less taxing process. Restarts are available though, in case someone does want to completely reset themselves.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Ooopse, getting to this one a bit late due to a cold, but to answer your question Kenzon, yes. I started out with thief as my third class and necro as fourth, but then decided I liked necro more than thief. Once however I leveled necro passed thief, the classes xp requirements swiched over and I was needing more xp for the thief  levels than the necro ones. it does take being  rather patient, sinse obviously you need to leave one class for a few levels and level another up, but it's certainly doable.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hello there Dentin and everyone,Yes, it seems as though having necro as my third class would help with exp and such, given the description all of you gave me. Now for the suggestions of mine for alter aeon:Instead of "The detect invisibility wares off" when detect invis, well, wares off, perhaps you would like to change it to "You can no longer detect invisible creatures" or something along those lines. Also I think brew potion should have an analyze function as well, since you don't even know whether the spellcomps you have can brew anything or not. I keep messing up brew potion because of that and it seems some spellcomps like horns and feathers from animals are harder to find in lower levels, imo. Brew tincture is pretty easy as far as when I tried, and brew salve should be too, since you can analyze it, I think. Now to my question: if you want to change the classes of your character, for example, changing necro to the third class from the f
 orth, once you succeed in doing it, will the exp to level necro in the above example decrease? Well since necro is the third class, and leveling the third class should be easier than leveling your forth, so I'd ask.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Loxias via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Coldfire is a damage spell, but you can also cast it on yourself to create a small ball of it which can be used in a brew.EDIT: Whoops, looks like I got beaten to the punch. Guess that's what happens when you forget about an open thread window for half an hour and don't refresh it when you come back to it. 

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Loxias via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Coldfire is a damage spell, but you can also cast it on yourself to create a small ball of it which can be used in a brew.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Dark, try cold fiering yourself and see what it does.  :d

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hmmm, I thought cold fire was basically just another damage spell? then again I've had to annoyingly learn it for the planer quest, so we'll see. I do largely use necro for utility spells though I like having fun with making undead and various minians can be helpful at absorbing a hit or two, I also use harvest teath and bloodsac a lot.i actually wish Cleric had some sort of crafting type activities like brewing potions, making staffs and runes or the Necro's undead creation sinse i tend to enjoy those sorts of things. Maybe the cleric could have the ability to forge holy armor and weapons by carrying out prayers to their god after battle or spending time shriving or consecrating food and drink so that it gave some sort of bennifit. Or maybe you could actually sacrifice things by slaying them with your holy weapon or spirit hammer to gain bennifits from your God. How about adding some relic items to the game which clerics could spot and collect in a re
 liquary, which would give some sort of bennifit from their god when full.In general, it'd be nice if clerics had a bit more by way of religious observances which could pay off, though i realize looking at druid abilities this was part of the idea behind those, still I'd enjoy something else to play with while exploring, especially when having to revisit areas.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mata via Audiogames-reflector


  


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looks like I came here too late, so please accept my apologise with that post above.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : mata via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I get the feeling you would do this in all places. I remember playing RTR with someone  called "dentin the fucker" or something like that, and I'm quite sure it's you. That player blamed Dentin a lot, like dentin the spammer, I hate dentin, dentin is an idiot and so on. I see the reason why dentin silence you at this point, man. You spam a lot on Alter, even if you say you won't. Don't ya think I ever come across darren on Alter? I don't wanna say this, but I've seen many posts of yours on here, in almost every new topic about Alter that you think dentin will reply. What if Dentin gets annoyed  by that? I think it might be the main reason he keep your mouth shut in the game. Sorry if I say something wrong, and sorry if this offends someone around here

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I was thinking of Sh'kar the Evil Biomancer.Last time  attempted it it was listed atlevel 23.I was level 24 and I still got used as a floor mop.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-05 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dentin via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I've found that necro as a third class can be helpful, but you can't use it for raw minion firepower.  Getting the necro helper skills and spells seems to be the way to go - harvest teeth, skeletal spider for extra damage and to have some weak minion fodder, coldfire for brewable spell components, blood sacrifice for extra mana and exp.  At higher levels, soulsteal, demon familiar, corpsecutter, soulforge.  While individually these aren't that powerful, they can really help fill out other class skills - brewing for example can make use of soulstones, coldfire balls, and things harvested from corpsecutter.This is pretty much normal for any third and lower class - you're going to use it for utility and to fill in gaps, not as your primary source of firepower.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Well, in that case I guess I'll go by mcnd for now, to feel how having necro as my third class works and how well it does. Once it is done, I'll decide whether to change into mncd or not. Thanks.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlexN94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I don't find necromancer to be that hard to be honest It might depend on the class combo you choose though.I like having warrior as my second class, mainly because of the quite nice amount of hp you'll get from leveling that class. On Shryth I'm going with NWTCMD with 1118 HP, 487 mana and 485 move. My levels are 36 necromancer, 31 warrior and 26 thief. The rest probably aren't important... In case you should want to know you can just look up my character on the website or finger me in the game.It takes a while before you can learn sanc with that combo though, but I like it.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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For me cleric is all about outlasting your opponent while using curses to stop them. I generally therefore go for the red demon to get better hp regen and mana, and tend to use my minians as disposable hitters who distract the enemy while I wind up strong warrior attacks or curses, I am looking forward to learning skeletal mage. Generally I don't tend to plan stuff out so much as look at each new spell or skill and say "does that look useful" before sinking practices into it. For example I have no group cast or group tank skills for cleric or warrior sinse I don't do grouping, and I also haven't bothered with corpsecutter sinse my mage level is too low to need spell comps.With  thief I concentrate on things like dodge that make me harder to hit, but don't bother with any of the shadows or sneaking (sinse I'm mostly wielding a blunt weapon either). As I said it probably isn't the most optimal setup but it lets me hav
 e fun wandering around, exploring and fighting.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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@Kenzon Yeoh,These are all areas you might get better results from as a necro set as your primary with mage or clerik as your second, depending on which way you really want to roll.  One of the most underestimated minions the necromancer has at his disposal is the demon familiar.  if you choose clerik as your second, the energetic green demon is a good familiar which will keep your mana and movement rregenerating at a healthy pace.  Add necrocast into the equation and you can go on for quite some time.  With mage as your secondary, this is not as much of a requirement, since mages generally obtain more mana than cleriks, so you can actually keep yourself regenned quite nicely on your mana alone, thus you would do what I do, which is summon the ebony scale demon for more hitpoints and health regen overall, along with the occasional refresh if you need it.spellcomp gathering is yet another necro specialty; we take them from corpses on a regular basis.
   Sometimes we just do it for the sake of gaining experience, knowing that we can likely sell them if we need to or turn them into something else should we desire it.I know, this seems like I'm completely advocating for the necro class and think all the others are way below me... Not true.  I admire the mages from time to time; they can sell tensors all day long and make tons of gold doing it, along with potion brewing and their ability to summon nother players and powerful elementals.  The thievs are as close to assassin as anyone could ever want to be; the backstab skil has got to be one of the nastiest attacks out there, considering it's a low level skill.  Cleriks by themselves are useless to me.  Beyond giving one good experience with their turn undead skill and providing useful protection with various spells from certain troubles I can't quite get into them.  Druids are even worse, since unless you can get a group of them toge
 ther you'll spend too much mana trying to do something you're more than likely not going to accomplish because you've spent too much mana trying to accomplish it.  Warriers may be the strongest on a physical level but I can't quite wrap my head around their various abilities right now.People say the necro class is the easiest to play because it relieves the character from the responsibility of fighting too often.  Primarily that statement is true; for roughly 26 or so levels you might be able to get away with that as a strategy.  There is, however a greater set of matters a necro has to consider.  If you ever decide to group, what spells and or skills should you learn to better assist your friends, and how many practices should you spend on them?  is my tank going to fail me in this area?  What should my constitution be given that I am physically weak?  How many practices can I sacrifice this time around to raise it? 
  Can I get away without using this particular spell or skill for the most part?  Bloodmist or rotting sphere?  Where can I find metal with good saves or other such necessities for other tanks such as mummies?  Where do I store my soulstones?  is there such a thing as too many?  How often should I soulforge?  Oh yes, be very careful with that one.  I spent an hour soulforging and the mud thwacked me as a bot because of it, assuming I was abusing the spell and whatnot, which is a shame because I would never even think of such a thing.and then there's equipment.  Unlike mages which can switch out of their equipment when necessary to regen mana or hitpoints or what have you, necros must find equipment with both necrocast and regen already in place.  Failing to do so will result in your minions not being as powerful or fluctuating in hitpoints as you switch from one set to another, which is notacceptable when you're trying to r
 un xp, given that the idea is to kill as much as fast as possible while remaining moderately safe in doing it.  By the time you're level 30, you'd better have a full set and be well on your way to finding some extra stuff with saves and res as well, because some of the mobs you'll face from that point on are just plain merciless.  by that time you must also have spells you can use to assist your undead crew immensely because of said mercilessness.For those reasons I must disagree on necros being an easy class to play.  It's a powerful class; yes, but it comes at the price of your time and patience and knowing that there are tons of setups you can use to better deal with various situations.  Where one group of players might quickly adapt to any one area they choose to go to and use skills and spells to deal with the threats in that area, solo necros must carefully consider their tank, possible demons, supply of soulstones, supply of harve
 sted teeth, mana, hitpoints, minion health, the ability of the mob to dish out damage on a more balanced plane rather than staying focused on the tank, creatin

Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I'm afraid as I remember I polished off the giants at level 17, though had to run away and redo my sanctuary a couple of times, and sinse that was a fair while ago it is entirely possible the giants got tweaked up sinse I last went through that area. I can't help on combos sinse I haven't experimented, much, but one thing I will say is an advantage to a higher warrior level is a good amount of hp and movement, which is a great way to out last your opponent while your curses/minians do them in, indeed as I remember I disposed of the giants by using weaken on them, while having sanctuary on myself and a hard hitting weapon.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I'm afraid as I remember I polished off the giants at level 17, though had to run away and redo my sanctuary a couple of times, and sinse that was a fair while ago it is entirely possible the giants got tweaked up sinse I last went through that area.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well I myself had potion and tincture brewing, and venomstop. Although I can't seem to be able to find spellcomps for brewing potions... Tinctures? Well, easy. Just gather herbs, analyze until i find a recipe of venomstop, and brew it. Can anyone help with finding spellcomps for brewing potions? And probably answer my question/give responses to my question in post 50, please? Thanks a lot.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I have noticed that the recommended levels for areas and quests have changed slightly, for example the swamp Nocturnus mentioned used to be level 21, but now is listed as 24 with the quest listed as 25 which seems about right. If the areas involve large numbers of enemies who attack en mass then I'll usually wait a level or so although I've not had to do this recently. This is one advantage of having cleric as a primary class, sinse my protection spells are usually up to the quest level not to mention my holy weapon, and undead simply go pop in my presence. The only major rebalancing I had to do was instead of going for total armour set, go for stuff that increased hit and damage and stats, and rely on spells for protection, but that works fairly well sinse I much prefer playing combat on the fly to sitting and having to minimax equipment and my necro minians can still provide handy punching bags for protection, plus of course i have a good amount of hp.The only disadvantage to the setup I've got is that poison/potion brewing always looked like a rather fun activity in and of itself, yet with theif and mage as my fourth and fifth classes I'll not really get chance to try these for quite some time.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Well as  for the quests thing, I agree. I tried to complete the release the golden goose quest at Kordan at around level 20, and almost get myself killed when I confront the giant on the bean stawk, even though the quest says that it is about level 18 or so. Also, on one almost impossible situation, I'm pretty hurt in a matter of seconds in the Orc Village just because I accidentally stumbled across an Orc warrior in my level range!Also, regarding classes, I'm a mage cleric druid necro, although I think I'll change the classes a bit (if it's even possible) to something like mage necro cleric druid or mage cleric necro druid. Any suggestions? I really like the necro minions, but I also like healing spells and carving things like spellstaffs and what not. That's why I can't decide. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-04 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Well as  for the quests thing, I agree. I tried to complete the release the golden goose quest at Kordan at around level 20, and almost get myself killed when I confront the giant on the bean stawk, even though the quest says that it is about level 18 or so. Also, on one almost impossible situation, I'm pretty hurt in a matter of seconds in the Orc Village just because I accidentally stumbled across an Orc warrior in my level range!Also, regarding classes, I'm a mage cleric necro druid, although I think I'll change the classes a bit (if it's even possible) to something like mage necro cleric druid or mage cleric necro druid. Any suggestions? I really like the necro minions, but I also like healing spells and carving things like spellstaffs and what not. That's why I can't decide. Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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@BryanP,I'm still not exactly sure what quest you're referring to, though a few come to mind where monsters might be a bit on the dangerous side for that particular level.  There once was a time when the lich priest in the unholy temple seemed like a dangerous adversary to me, and then I tried it with a practically complete necro set and it died, as much as an undead thing can die, at any rate.  Those crazies in the tower east of the nurgling, nergling?  I don't remember the correct spelling, oh well, that swamp, marsh land thingy with the rather disgusting critters; the tower east of that area has set of mobs that can do a fair amount of damage to anything that isn't properly armored, which is why I'll always take a construct in there with saves galore, armor, and sanc to tank for me.  The tro village can be slightly difficult but I've gone through it solo too many times to count.  If you can think of the area, I'l
 l probably think of a way around it with my character.  No, I'm not bragging... I'm just as capable of dying as the next guy, and the one after that.  if you look a bit further back in the topics you'll read of some of my immense failures and how I simply laugh them off, but I still believe the keys are flexibility and balance.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I was thinking a spposedly level 23 quest where the main mob can easily mop the floor with you even when you're at or even above level 23.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

To be honest I've not really thought that deeply into things. I've gone clerric warrior necro, and just use what abilities come in useful in that combination. I suppose if I was planning a little more carefully I might have done things differently but I've sunk too much time (and indeed a few donations), into my character to want to restructure now, usually I just get tough enough to solo areas as needed. this might run into trouble later,  but then again I'm hoping that by the time I get to the main land there will be enough fun places for me to want to explore that advancing won't seem so grindy and I can handle the bits I want. Indeed one thing I rather like about the game is levelling up and deciding what among the new sspells and abilities looks useful.heck, I already go back to Kordon and redo areas with quests when new ones come out just for the experience. I enjoyed the recent addition of the beach with the ogre settlements and cem
 etory, though i wish I could find which quest directs you to that area sinse I did come upon a couple of things like a great black fungus I couldn't do anything about and I'm guessing some npc has information but I don't want to go hunting through all the towns on Kordon to find it.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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To be honest I've not really thought that deeply into things. I've gone clerric warrior necro, and just use what abilities come in useful in that combination. I suppose if I was planning a little more carefully I might have done things differently but I've sunk too much time (and indeed a few donations), into my character to want to restructure now, usually I just get tough enough to solo areas as needed. this might run into trouble later,  but then again I'm hoping that by the time I get to the main land there will be enough fun places for me to want to explore that advancing won't seem so grindy and I can handle the bits I want. heck, I already go back to Kordon and redo areas with quests when new ones come out just for the experience. I enjoyed the recent addition of the beach with the ogre settlements and cemetory, though i wish I could find which quest directs you to that area sinse I did come upon a couple of things like a great black fung
 us I couldn't do anything about and I'm guessing some npc has information but I don't want to go hunting through all the towns on Kordon to find it.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Regarding grouping in quests, I haven't done anything above level 32, so I'll just have to take your word on it that quests above that level are certainly hard things to do as a solo character.I think the real issue for solo players or people who wish to solo more often than not is finding the balance that best fits their needs.  For me, it's necromancer as a primary, mage as a second.  Displacement comes earlier than if I were clerik, and if I throw in clerik as a third I end up with armor fairly quickly anyway, so my AC is quite high without having to resort to bone armor and bone shields, which of course, leaves those areas for necrocast level equipment with fair amounts of mana regen.  Add my army of sketal fighters and mages and my woads or metal constructs depending on the area I'm in and I'm just about set for any confrontation, at least within the ranges I've specified above.  A good friend of mine prefers mage as a p
 rimary though, clerik as second and warrier as third, or something of that nature.  His strategies do not make any sense to me, but neither does he, so I guess that's fair.  IN any case, I can't argue with him since I've seen him get fairly far in a short amount of time.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I'm like you. I tend to prefer single-player, but some of those quests are so hard you almost have to group.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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@Bryan, please see my previous moderation message regarding Rory, namely that I think we are at the point when all has been said that can be said on that topic and too many people repeating the same advice and admonishments over and again is not going to help. Regarding Alter, I tend to do the same, go on, play a bit, do some exploring of new areas and quests then leave for a while, though really I should make some concerted effort sinse judging by the area lists there are lots of places to go on the mainland as well as those areas of Arcase I'm still trying to buff up enough to get into. As I've said before I do wish Alter had some sort of random wilderness like MAteriamagica has and hunting system just so that once you'd been through an area and got all (or more or less all), the exploration points and done any quests there was still something a bit more purposive to do and something a little fresh to get xp rather than wandering about pounding heads
  repeatedly. Actually I've noticed lots of recent areas don't hav exploration points which is a bit disappointing sinse I do enjoy earning those (another reason why some random wilderness might be nice). Some random generation quests might be good too, sinse I always find even if I'm entering an area I've already been to if I'm wandering around looking or that one orc shaman or black mos or whatever, pounding my way through whatever I have to get through on route the fact that I have some sort of purpose beyond just monster mincing means I can maintain more interest in wandering a previously explored area. As to channels,I tend to chat when I'm resting and waiting for my mana to regen and have them off otherwise, sinse generally as someone who is not exactly in it for the interactions with other players, I tend to just think of chatting the way i would think of posting on a game forum about a single player game. It's nice to gi
 ve people the time of day and say hello, or give or ask for help on any issue,but not essential to my enjoyment of the game, indeed this is possibly why i haven't noticed much by way of bad behaviour sinse I've not ben on the alteraeon chat for long periods.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-03 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector


  


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You might feel you've learned, but the really important question is whether Dentin does. As for me I haven't been on Alter for a while simply because I get bored with it and frustrated with level grinding. But even when I play I turn off most channels anyway simply because I find all the chatter distracting whether it's insulting or not.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Just one more thing: Dentin, i fell i have improved, since you were off for like 2 weeks. I didn't try to post to channels, accept when i logged on to see if i was unsilenced, but after a while i gave up. So, all im going to say is, i feel i have learned, and from this i have learned more then just playing the game.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SLJ via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Rory: I'll give you a bit of advice, which you need to remember, if you ever wanna improve yourself in the future:When you're spamming on a public channel because you are angry, your messages are going out to 50 other players or more. Think about how many people who are getting your messages, just because you are angry at only one person. Things like this will piss people off for sure. So, never, do that again in the future. If you wanna improve yourself. If you don't understand the issue on doing that, then you'll never learn how to improve yourself.The funny thing is that you haven't spammed here on the audiogames forum. Why? Because you know that you'll be at moderated status if you do so. So, think about what you're doing, take our advice or you'll get into more trouble than you'll ever imagine. People have already sta
 rted to dislike you, so if you wanna change that, then please, take the friendly peoples advice. and, if there is something we are saying that you don't understand, then please, let us know!

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Moderation! I think all has  been said that can be said on the issue of Rory's behaviour on Alter at this point. Ultimately, as Dentin said, he'll unsilence Rory when he can monitor Rory's behaviour, and what Rory does at that point is up to him. Chewing over past disagreements such as the one with Lokar probably isn't helpful, likewise I think he has had all the good advice he is going to get at this stage and further repetition is in danger of setting the band wagon rolling.So, while I am not closing this topic, and while any other discussion of Alteraeon (such as Jayde's regarding quests is still very welcome, failing any new developments I strongly suggest we let the Rory situation drop and resolve itself one way or the other.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-09-01 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Moderation! I think all has  been said that can be said on the issue of Rory's behaviour on Alter at this point. Ultimately, as Dentin said, he'll unsilence Rory when he can monitor Rory's behaviour, and what Rory does at that point is up to him. Chewing over past disagreements such as the one with Lokar probably isn't helpful, likewise I think he has had all the good advice he is going to get at this stage and further repetition is in danger of setting the band wagon rolling.So, while I am not closing this topic, and while any other discussion of Alteraeon (such as Jayde's regarding quests, failing any new developments I strongly suggest we let the Rory situation drop and resolve itself one way or the other.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SLJ via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Rory: I'll give you a bit of advice, which you need to remember, if you ever wanna improve yourself in the future:When you're spamming on a public channel because you are angry, your messages are going out to 50 other layers or more. Think about how many people who are getting your messages, just because you are angry at only one person. Things like this will piss people off for sure. So, never, do that again in the future. If you wanna improve yourself. If you don't understand the issue on doing that, then you'll never learn how to improve yourself.The funny thing is that you haven't spammed here on the audiogames forum. Why? Because you know that you'll be at moderated status if you do so. So, think about what you're doing, take our advice or you'll get into more trouble than you'll ever imagine. People have already star
 ted to dislike you, so if you wanna change that, then please, take the friendly peoples advice. and, if there is something we are saying that you don't understand, then please, let us know!

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Changing the belt's level is a fair enough fix if you didn't want people instantly grabbing it, although info passed pretty easily on AA so you didn't exactly have to be seriously in the know to figure it out. I suppose many players are 22 anyway by the time they hit that swamp, so I can understand that. And like I said, I'm not trying to dig up old bones, I'm only illustrating that this was the only remotely iffy thing I ever saw on AA, and it's nowhere near the sort of thing I'd attack or leave a MUD for. It ruffles feathers, but if you can't stand to have your feathers ruffled a little, then you shouldn't give people a chance to do it.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dentin via Audiogames-reflector


  


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For the record, Rory is a persistent and notorious spammer, and all of his characters are on permanent automatic silence until such time as his behaviour improves.  I grant him probationary temporary unsilence from time to time when I am at the terminal and can monitor him.  As I have been on vacation for the past week and a half, that has not recently been possible.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dentin via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Jayde, there have been a number of reworks to the Archais quest lines since our discussion on the invis Trow quest belt.  I do not know if it is available earlier now or not.  It is currently level 22, the same level as the Trow area.As I recall, it was lower level in the past, and my previous reasoning was that we shouldn't just 'unlock' it so that advanced players who are in-the-know can get it early and get a significant advantage over new players who don't know any better.  I still think that's good reasoning, and that the issue has probably been addressed since our discussion by making it higher level.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


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As an addendum to my last post, I remember now why I took issue with the quest thing.The trow quest gives you a belt that grants you invis when you wear it. Most players don't have invis at that point, and most of the swamp north of Gad's at the time couldn't detect invis, and most of it is aggro to non-invis players. I believe the reason given for the change at the time was because players were dying trying to do the money-sack and trow quests fresh on Archais because it made them wander and they'd ignore the level warnings, get lost, wander into Blackhollow or something, get murdered by pixies and then start spewing rage. I felt, and still feel, that letting players do that money-sack and trow quest early should be permissible, as it makes other quests (and levelling in general on Archais) considerably less risky. Anyway, for all I know this has been changed, and it's not like I'm still angry about it. I'm just giving istory on why I got 
 annoyed. And like I said in my first post, from yesterday, the worst I can say about a situation like this is that I'm not sure the right thing was done or the right logic was used to justify the decision. Perfectly well and good.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


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It was a thing regarding quests and when they should or shouldn't be available...I think this was the money-sack quest, which is easy even around level 18 or 19 when you show up on Archais for the first time. Unless it was reversed, I believe there was a change that made it so you had to do all the Seaside stuff (and I do mean all of it) before you could do the money-sack or trow stuff...and I thought that was kind of odd.Anyway, a difference of opinion is well and good. Data doesn't lie, in itself, but it can miss the point. That's as far as I'll go on it.Lokar, you coming here and defending yourself didn't really help your case any. As soon as you said "Yeah I goaded him ssoetimes", you lost all credibility and high ground. If you goaded him, then you're also in the wrong. You're nowhere near as bad, perhaps, but you're feeding the problem, and if (as I suspect) you are not the only one to have done this, then it can
  safely be said that while Rori's actions still belong to Rori, and his responsibility is still unquestionable, some of the other players he's been involved with have potentially aggravated the situation. In a broader scope, that's why there's assault and then aggravated assault, or that's why there's second-degree murder.I'm not for an instant blaming you or anyone for what Rori is doing. What he's doing is his own fault. But for heaven's sake don't make it worse and then try and act protective or self-righteous. The instant you muddy your own hands, you take yourself off the high ground you purport to inhabit.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-31 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : morpheus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

To RoryI have told you many times that if someone makes you angry then its time to take a break.Stand up from the pc, walk away, get a drink, eat a cookie, read a book, take a walk, do some sit-ups. Whatever it takes to work off that anger and then return with a clean head.Spamming, cursing people out and saying things like I want to kill all sighted people is not cool, it don’t make you look like the big guy on the block, its not going to make you any friends, in fact at the very least it will just make people want to put you on ignore.You have to admit Rory, that Lokar may goad you at times, but he has also been really good to you and has tried to help you better yourself and to be more respectful. Just as Dentin, myself and others are trying to do as well.To Jayde Alter Aeon has changed a lot as far as the whole I been here ten years and your just a newbie. In fact many with that attitude have been shown the door by Dentin. We try to listen to both sides and then handle it the best we can.As far as collecting data I have a feeling jade you’re talking of Dentin and he does collect all kinds of stats and listens to players. He then looks through it all, filters out the stuff that is not important and makes a decision. Sometimes this leads to a change and sometimes he doesn’t feel its best for the game. Changes in Alter happen all the time, some great, some not so great. Dentin does what he feels is best for the game and the players, but  he is not perfect by any means, but if he makes a change that don’t work, he will admit to that and  most times will change it back.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Lokar via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hey folks,                 I just wanted to come by and set the record straight a little here. I won't deny goading Rory here on multiple occasions, but that was AFTER he had started his intentional spamming of many different channels, including our newbie channel.  His spamming has included very crude and unwanted sexual comments towards some of the female gamers on our mud and blanket hate statements against sighted people.  His language is almost always foul in places where it is unacceptable (our public channels- gossip, shout, newbie and chat to name a few) and in general is pretty unacceptable behavior.  It's probably true that I don't have to goad him, but given that I pretty much literally only pick on him once he has already started spamming or making inappropriate sexual comments towards people it’s pretty hard to accept the idea that the reason for his many silences and many bans rests solely on my shoulders.  If Rory were to behave in an acceptable way he wouldn't run in to the problems that he has on this mud (and though hearsay what I've heard he has run in to on other muds as well). So whether my own behavior is appropriate or not, it most certainly is not the cause of his trouble. Rory, I highly suggest you modify your behavior instead of trying to place the blame on others, you won’t get very far trying to displace blame and will only find yourself banned and in trouble from more games if it continues.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hi Rory.Well if players are bothering you like kenzon said there are other things you can do besides saying fuck you or your a bitch over and over again. You have probably noticed this by now but your hurting yourself more than your hurting the players who are bothering you. I imagine if there as bad as you say they probably got a good laugh when you were silenced and banned. If they are really bothering you and won't stop definitly report it to the moderators.If dentin is out of town I'm sure he wouldn't want to be working on alteraeon until he get's back.Remember that game developers have lives outside of there games. I wouldn't send him another mail if I were you I would just wait a few mor days and see if your silence has been lifted. And telling him fuck you is definitly not a good idea. The worst thing he could do is bann you but let me give you a little example. Let's say you are apart of the wheel of time universe. If you have read
  the books you will know what I'm talking about. The main bad guy in the wheel of time is the dark one. So let's say you two are together.Rory: Fuck You, dark one.!Dark one: Silence foool before I turn you into a trolok and feed you to the gholam!All I'm trying to say is that saying fuck you to dentin is like telling an all-powerful being fuck you you will be punished in some way. Good luck with alteraeon in the future.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

If players are doing things to get you upset, that sucks. If you respond in kind, you're just as guilty as they are, and unlike some of them, you're known as nothing -but a bother. Some of them are long-time players, and while that doesn't overtly make a difference, sometimes stuff like that sneaks into how a person is viewed. If I showed up on AA tomorrow, played for four hours and started making suggestions, and if a long-time player disagreed with me, the populace at large might give the long-timer more credit by default, and never mind that the "newbie" I represent has been playing the game off and on for four years or more.Point is, it happens to the best of us. If players are harassing you, then honestly ignore them and/or report them, and let the moderators do their job.The very worst thing I've ever seen the AA staff do is along the lines of what I alluded to earlier. Sometimes they hhve equated player tenure to increased credibil
 ity, and with one in particular (for whom I refuse to name names) I had the very distinct impression that they believe themselves right because tthy're staff. A sort of "I did this, and no matter what you say about it, my ability to do it is self-justifying. I have data tables that prove I'm right, so although it will appear as an inconvenience it's actually going to do the mud at large some good".That's not moderation, that's iffy judgment, at the absolute worst and a strongly differing opinion handled in a weird way at best. You're going to have stuff like that no matter where you go, so I'm not complaining about it.Point is, I've been around and I've never seen someone stomped on just for the sake of it. Other MUDs, but not AA.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Kenzon Yeoh via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hello,That's one of the reason you're silenced. How can you say someone is a b even if they disturb you? You could just report it to the admins insteadd of spamming them with tells and stuff and/or getting into fights with them. Were I in your condition, i would ignore the player (I would first use the notell feature, then if he keeps disturbing me I'll use the ignore command and if he still doesn't stop, I would report it to the admins and stuff). Yes, I know you would like to improve, but saying that over and over is probably not the way to do it.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hi. I really, really want to improve, but one of the things stopping me is the fact that there is a player lokar, who says rude things to me, so i swear at him and we get into big fights. He's not the only one, there's also unholey. He's kind of a dick too. That's making me get silenced and all because i get really, really angry, and either spam them with tells or say your a bitch or stuff like that to them over public channels after they have done something to me.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hi. I really, really want to improve, but one of the things stopping me is the fact that there is a player lokar, who says rude things to me, so i swear at him and we get into big fights. He's not the only one, there's also unholey. He's kind of a dick too.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : morpheus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I am not sure if silence has an autotimer, but Dentin will be back in time to remove it.Moderating is a thankless and very hard job to do sometimes. People sometimes call me a channel Nazi or the like, but with many if you give them an inch they take a mile. So it’s best to address it the same for all. I have had to warn friends and even ban some, but the rules are what they are and not meant for just certain people.I have visited the forums before, but never registered or responded, but with Dentin away and seeing Victorious’s post and before too many jumped the gun I felt I needed to inform you of Rory’s past actions and lend some support to Vic’s post.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Noted, Nocturnus. I hate spammers with a passion, which could have had affected my post. I just hope that he learns his lesson from being silenced.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I'm with Dark on his call on post 7.  You said absolutely nothing that stated with definitive proof that Rory was in fact a prolific spammer; to be honest, I'm pretty sure that unless one of the admins from AA had come on I doubt there would have been anything you could have said that would have done so.  His moderation call was not meant as an attack on you personally; our duty is to defend anyone and everyone from what seems like unfair judgement until we can collect all of the facts on a situation.  I myself would have probably called it had Dark not beaten me to the punchline.One of the things people need to understand about moderation calls is that on here, at least, we do our absolute best to make sure they're not based on our personal feelings or beliefs; we try to be as neutral and unbiased as we can at all times, sometimes contacting each other to discuss the situation further and sort of give each other a heads up on how we went about 
 making such a decision and to make sure we're not stepping on someone's toes unnecessarily.  Indeed depending on the individual we moderate, sometimes the situation can get hairy outside of the forum and carry into personal life, even if we don't talk about it.As an example rather than a complaint, an AA player took it upon himself to take a stab at me any time he knew I was around because I was forced to act diligently on the forum awhile back.  Rather than opting to contact the staff for what might have been harassment, I chose to act on the side of mercy and suck it up, dealing with the negativity as best I could, replying calmly and with as much understanding as I could, while simultaneously carrying the pain of knowing that my action was seen as a malicious one by that particular person and that there was deep dislike there.  That is why sometimes I laugh at the people who claim they want to be moderators on this forum; they don't know w
 hat kind of price tag it actually carries and the responsibilities that must be undertaken, even if you don't feel like it.  While I can't speak for everyone else on the panel, as it were, I get absolutely no enjoyment or thrill from probably upsetting someone else by closeing down a topic they are passionate about or possibly having to suspend and maybe even ban someone for something they said, and my belief is that something like that shouldn't be enjoyed either, since at that point you may start acting tyrannical and removing people on your own personal whims and wishes.  This is something else I have not seen the Alter Aeon staff do or heard even so much as a rumor about, which is yet another thing that makes them a good admin crew, as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-30 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

@Rory, Victorious is right, it is entirely possible the silence timer is automatic, plus to be honest ten days really isn't that bad, (I have been known to bann people for a month or more). I'd suggest as I said above just sucking it in and coping and resolving to be better in the future. @Victorious, had  Morphius made his post about the situation I wouldn't have made the moderation message, sinse I was not aware  that Rory had been guilty of spamming and your use of the term was descriptive as opposed to insulting, however you can see why I did pull up the comment.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


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I believe Dentin's out of town, which is why he might not respond to you immediately. I'm fairly sure that silencing will have automatic timers, so as soon as the timer is up, you are no longer silenced without Dentin's manual intervention.@Dark: I'm not sure how I managed to miss your moderation message on post 7, but I only saw it when someone pointed it out to me. I think that the phrase 'proliphic spammer' in this case is a fair and objective assessment.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I believe Dentin's out of town, which is why he might not respond to you immediately. I'm fairly sure that silencing will have automatic timers, so as soon as the timer is up, you are no longer silenced without Dentin's manual intervention.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Hi. Dentin said i wouldn't be unsilenced for like 10 days, a week ago. I don't know why he hasn't been on alter, but im going to remind him just in case. Just once, though. I don't want him to tell me to stop spamming for the 10th time.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well I have encountered people who do similar and as I said I have confidence in the moderation of Alteraeon.  Hopefully this discussion will have given Rory something to think about in the future  either on Alter or other games.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


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The administration of the game is for the most part pretty fair. I've got to agree with Morpheus here, having witness his spamming.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : morpheus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

To dark Thanks for the welcome.Rory has been warned many times, temp banned many times, silenced for about ten minutes or longer, is perm banned from several channels with multis, has been frozen anywhere from a few days to a couple of weeks, has been sitebanned for the same amounts. He has not only had a second chance, but probably fifty others.And like Dark pointed out harassing Dentin and posting like this probably isn’t going to get it removed anytime soon.To belgarath:I am not sure what happen with you, but we give plenty of chances and in fact probably too many chances to most.The rules are posted in the disclaimer for each channel and they are there to make the game play enjoyable for all. Most don’t want to hear several people argueing, flamewars, people spamming a channel over and over, doing things that make readers do funky or talk funky, cursing like a truck driver with terets or the like. If you don’t like a channels rules then (unlike with many games from what I hear) you have the option on Alter Aeon to create your own channel and to make your own rules.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : AlexN94 via Audiogames-reflector


  


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Shryth here, in case anyone should be interested... I will agree with Nocturnus and dark here. The moderators on AA handle it pretty well.There's something called common sense that people seem to use too seldom... I don't get how someone can find it funny to spam three or four different channels for 10 minutes... The silencing is deserved I'd say. Begging for a second, third, fourhh or whatever chance seems pointless to me.I don't know if you've learned anything from it or not, but had I been you I would just have accepted it and waited to see. I don't know if you're only silenced for a while or if it's just until Dentin decides that you're ready to return, but regardless of which of them it is... You might as well just get used to it, it's probably going to be like this for some time.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well, the alteraeon has good moderated. You did wrong by yourself, and don't complain to them. admin got to do their job if you against the rules of the game.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well, the alteraeon has good moderated. You did wrong by yourself, and don't complain to them. admin got to do their work if you did something wrong with the game rules.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I'm Thelok on Alter. I was on a couple of weeks ago and don't know when I'll be back, but I do stick my  noggin round the door occasionally to do some exploring. @rory,  certainly when I hand out suspentions to people on the forum, I carefully considder the amount of time a person is suspended. If someone has done  something that I judge to require a week's suspention, they get a week, if two months, they get two months.  Think of it like a jail sentence, you do the crime,   you do the time. On the rare occasions (probably less than seven times), I've had to suspend or even out right ban someone for their offensive behaviour, they always have had at least two warnings previously, usually more. I don't know what the Alter mods policy on silencing is, but I imagine they follow a similar line, thus your probably better simply sucking  it in and making a resolution  not to do it again, rat
 her than pestering people for it to be lifted (that sort of thing might even have the opposite effect to what you want). After all if a punishment is needed it needs to be a little punishing and something you will remember in the future. Plus of course, if you have been causing trouble for other players, you'd likely be better off waiting until they have forgotten the incident anyway.I would personally suggest that if they gave a date for you to be  unsilenced, you wait until then, if not you wait a week or so then ask.@Belgarath,  i have to agree with nocturnus here. I've been a forum administrator and moderator myself for a good few  and personally I've always admired the way Alteraeon is run and moderated. Of course, Alteraeon is not an rp intensive mud the way Avalon sounds to be, so the moderation might well be a different affare, not being an  fan of rp   in online games I'm not sure.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I'm Thelok on Alter. I was on a couple of weeks ago and don't know when I'll be back, but I do stick my  noggin round the door occasionally to do some exploring. @rory,  certainly when I hand out suspentions to people on the forum, I carefully considder the amount of time a person is suspended. If someone has done  something that I judge to require a week's suspention, they get a week, if two months, they get two months.  Think of it like a jail sentence, you do the crime,   the time. On the rare occasions (probably less than five times), I've had to suspend or even out right ban someone for their offensive behaviour, they always have had at least two warnings previously, usually more. I don't know what the Alter mods policy on silencing is, but I imagine they follow a similar line, thus your probably better simply sucking  it in and making a resolution  not to do it again, rather than
  pestering people for it to be lifted (that sort of thing might even have the opposite effect to what you want), after all if a punishment is needed it needs to be a little punishing and something you will remember in the future.@Belgarath,  i have to agree with nocturnus here. I've been a forum administrator and moderator myself for a good few  and personally I've always admired the way Alteraeon is run and moderated. Of course, Alteraeon is not an rp intensive mud the way Avalon sounds to be, so the moderation might well be a different affare, not being an  fan of rp   in online games I'm not sure.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I'm Thelok on Alter. I was on a couple of weeks ago and don't know when I'll be back, but I do stick my  noggin round the door occasionally to do some exploring. @Belgarath,  i have to agree with nocturnus here. I've been a forum administrator and moderator myself for a good few  and personally I've always admired the way Alteraeon is run and moderated. Of course, Alteraeon is not an rp intensive mud the way Avalon sounds to be, so the moderation might well be a different affare, not being an  fan of rp   in online games I'm not sure.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-29 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

@Rory,I am Nocturnus, though admittedly it's been almost half a year since I've signed in.  Truth be told, it may be time to step away from audiogames, audio production and sound design owing to circumstances I have no control over.  I won't say much more about it now, but the decision I feel I must make soon is weighing on me very heavily.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Belgarath via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Feel free to come join me in the MUD I play (avalon-rpg.com). I've played Alter Aeon. Good game but the admins are a bit unprofessional imo.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hi. I sent dentin a mudmail, but he was not on so i will say it here. By the way this was like 2 days ago. I feel i have learned from being silenced this whole time, i feel ready to be unsilenced.Dark, that was convincing. Nockternise, what's your name on alter. Mine's Rorster

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : scotf2012 via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Rory, probably the best thing to do is to really, truly think what you say before you say it.  As has been stated, telling the creator of a game "fuck you" is a pretty terrible idea and won't win you any friends at all.  Spamming, i.e sending the same thing, or similar variations multiple times, is also a terrible idea.  You were silenced for a reason, so if I were you, I would learn from this experience.  There are only a certain number of "second chances" that one can have, after all, and from what I've read here, you're in very hot water indeed.  So, Rory, learn from this, and really try to change.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I think they're pretending; deep down inside, they're all a bunch of vilains out to conquer the world.  :dHonestly, Dentin and his crew are probably some of the most lenient people it is possible to have as admins for a game.  if you took a listen to the auction block any time within the last year and heard some of the stuff that is broadcast over the tchannel and how casually the admins react on occasions when they could just as easily stamp their feet on the offending parties and ban the whole lot of them, you'd know exactly what I mean.  I'm sure it probably happens on other channels as well, but the auction block is the one that quickly comes to mind for me personally because it's the one channel they don't like being spammed at all, given that many items of great importance can appear on their at random times for other players to purchase.  They put up with a lot over there; I admire them for it and regret never having s
 aid it before now.  I know I haven't been playing as of late, but you guys still rock.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I think they're pretending; deep down inside, they're all a bunch of vilains out to conquer the world.  :dHonestly, Dentin and his crew are probably some of the most lenient people it is possible to have as admins for a game.  if you took a listen to the auction block any time within the last year and heard some of the stuff that is broadcast over tha tchannel and how casually the admins react on occasions when they could ust as easily stamp their feet on the offending parties and ban the whole lot of them, you'd know exactly what I mean.  I'm sure it probably happens on other channels as well, but the auction block is the one that quickly comes to mind for me personally because it's the one channel they don't like being spammed at all, given that many items of great importance can appear on their at random times for other players to purchase.  They put up with a lot over there; I admire them for it and regret never having sa
 id it before now.  I know I haven't been playing as of late, but you guys still rock.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well Rory, this probably explains why you keep getting  silenced.Judging by the  example you make here, it's your random and  mildly offensive comments that likely got you into trouble. Think of it this way, would you walk into a  cafe/classroom/social event and say "fuck you" to someone? or accuse someone of sucking? Remember, there are real people at the end of those computer connections with real lives just like you who probably don't take it kindly. Also, remember that when you are writing textpeople do not get any of your tone of voice or context. So for example, when I was at my last tabletop game, one of my friends rolled her attack against the enemy and I stated "ah you make  a fail!"The fact that I was grinning and said it in a joking tone made what  could've been a  nasty remark not to be so. I would never however say something like that online sinse it would not be clear just from 
 my writing  whether I meant this to be joking or not.  Also, to be brutally honest, saying "Fuck you" to the man who made the game is not likely to win you friends and influence people! As a general rule, if you wouldn't say  it off! the internet to some person you don't know in a polite social situation, then don't say it on  the internet either. Even in terms of  competition, there is a big difference between winning a friendly game against someone and  saying "Ah I gotcha!" and saying "You lose, you pathetic loser!"Again, if you wouldn't say it  to someone you don't know in some polite setting off line, don't say it online.Hopefully this    gives you an idea on behaviour. I will say I've found Dentin, Morphius, Shadowfax and the other Alteraeon moderators to be  a highly  reasonable and understanding bunch, hence why I su
 ggest you reconsider how you treat  others.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Well Rory, this probably explains why you keep getting  silenced.Judging by the  example you make here, it's your random and  mildly offensive comments that likely got you into trouble. Think of it this way, would you walk into a  cafe/classroom/social event and say "fuck you" to someone? or accuse someone of sucking? Remember, there are real people at the end of those computer connections with real lives just like you who probably don't take it kindly. Also, remember that when you are writing textpeople do not get any of your tone of voice or context. So for example, when I was at my last tabletop game, one of my friends rolled her attack against the enemy and I stated "ah you make  a fail!"The fact that I was grinning and said it in a joking tone made what  could've been a  nasty remark not to be so. I would never however say something like that online sinse it would not be clear just from 
 my writing  whether I meant this to be joking or not.  Also, to be brutally honest, saying "Fuck you" to the man who made the game is not likely to win you friends and influence people! As a general rule, if you wouldn't say  it off! the internet to some person you don't know in a polite social situation, then don't say it on  the internet either. Hopefully this    gives you an idea on behaviour. I will say I've found Dentin, Morphius, Shadowfax and the other Alteraeon moderators to be  a highly  reasonable and understanding bunch, hence why I suggest you reconsider how you treat people.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hi. I am sorry you feel this way morpheus, but i have tried many times to be better, and sometimes i only spam when im talking, when i say things like this. I thought spamming was like this. Rorster gossips, i will not pk you. Rorster gossips, you suck. Rorster gossips, fuck you dentin. That, is what i think of spamming. I spam like that and say that is what i think of spamming when i am showing another player what i think spamming is, and i don't mean to spam. But sometimes dentin takes it seriously, and silences me. Also i was unsilenced, but dentin told me he was going to bed so he silenced me again. Its like he doesn't trust me. I try to be better, and i will continue to try. But no one will accept that.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Hi Morphius and welcome to the forum. Thank you for the  explanation, as I said I  am aware how well moderated Alteraeon is. Hopefuly rory  will bare this in mind in the future.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : morpheus via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

First off let me say a “silence” only prevents a player from using tells, yelling or any public channels.This player is a known spammer and has been warned hundreds of times for excessive cursing at people, in recalls and over public channels, flaming and just spamming both private and public channels. They have been temp banned from channels, silenced for short periods, longer periods, banned from channels, frozen and even sitebanned. Yet, even after all this they insist in harassing, spamming and cursing over channels or at players in tells.It is a game, but when that persons idea of fun is to harass, spam, curse out or just generally be a jerk to others, in turn ruining the fun of others then we need to do things like this.Like I said this player has caused a lot of grief for others, normally ends up silenced or worse, when its lifted, they are good for a few days and then go right  back to their old ways.I suggest you accept your punishment, give it a week and rethink your goals on the game. Do you really like being silenced? Banned? Ignored by more than half the game? I highly doubt it and maybe it is time to really make an effort to be more respectful to others.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Moderation! @Victorious, whatever Rory may or may not have done in the past, please be a little more considderate when throwing around terms like "A prolific spammer" That is   boardering rather closely on personal insult. While, as I said I think it is possible Rory might have done something against the Alteraeon rules, there are better ways  of explaining such without accusing someone of being "a spammer" which in netiquette terms  can be pretty insulting. Please try to make your points  in a slightly less inflamitory way in the future.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Victorious via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I'm pretty sure that this is a proliphic spammer. If you did something that caused you to be silenced for more than several minutes, you probably deserved it. There is also anti-spam code that detects spammers creating multiple new chars to work around channel bans which can also automatically silence you I think.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Dark via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

If by "silencing" you mean not being able to use chat etc, I suspect that it wasn't  dentin, but one of the moderators of the alteraeon Chat channels, and probably there was a reason behind  sinse Alteraeon  tends to be very well moderated. did you get any warnings of things you were doing before you were silenced  Rory?  While it is conceivable that the moderators of the Alteraeon Chat made a mistake,  I suspect you were doing something wrong or against the rules, and  it is quite possible that the very reason you haven't had the  silence removed  is because you don't understand  why it was there in the first place, and pestering Dentin with mudmails or topics on this forum probably won't help you with that.

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SLJ via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

I forgot to ask: Is it only Denton who can do anything about it, or what about the other admins?

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-28 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

Maybe you've did something wrong in the game?

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Re: Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SLJ via Audiogames-reflector


  


Re: Alter aeon complaint

What does it mean to be silenced? And do you have any ideas on why you have be silenced? Not being able to say something in a game shouldn't be activated for no reason, so you must have done something to make this happen. But, is it only the say command which has been deactivated?

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Alter aeon complaint

2014-08-27 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Rory via Audiogames-reflector


  


Alter aeon complaint

Hi dentin, and all who read this. Dentin, i have sent you mudmails, because i don't know when you will come on alter aeon. I hope you check this more offen, because im posting it here now. Can you unsilence me? I don't know why you are keeping me like this, and i don't know when your gonna unsilence me, or if you even are. But i ask that as soon as you log on, you do so. Your afk, so i guess your logged on already. But you know what i mean. So yeah, can you unsilence me? Thanks.

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