Bavisoft games.
2016-05-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : lori21 via Audiogames-reflector
Bavisoft games. Hi guys, I'm trying to locate the audio reviews of Chillingham and Grisley Gultch by Bavisoft. The links on the audiogames.net site are broken obviously because Bavisoft have sesed to exist, but I'd still like to hear those audio reviews if possible. I was wondering if anyone has them if they could perhaps dropbox them here? I just wanted to hear them for old time's sake. Many thanks from Lori. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262356#p262356 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Here you go. http://d297kd6ledjoa.cloudfront.net/bav … nloads.tar URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262365#p262365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Here you go. http://d297kd6ledjoa.cloudfront.net/bav … nloads.tar By the way, I almost forgot to include the link when I first posted this! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262365#p262365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Hi.[[wow]] I can't believe somebody still has these. Thanks for posting them. I never actually heard them but I did play the games. Believe it or not I still have the original bavisoft cds that I got as a gift years ago. I'm not sure they still work but I keep them just for fun. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262416#p262416 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. @Guitarman, these games from bavisoft still works great, even in windows 10 though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262458#p262458 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. I have links to both Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham if anybody wants them for memory's sake. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262500#p262500 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-05-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. I have links to both Grizzly Gulch and Chillingham if anybody wants them for memory's sake. Note that these are links passed around, and I am not hosting these. Chillingham: http://kbis.me/files/Chillingham.isoGrizzly Gulch: http://kbis.me/files/Grizzly%20Gulch.rar URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262500#p262500 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Hi.Could somebody upload the audio reviews to public dropbox to make it easier for me to download? Also could you put them up as a regular zip file or two separate audio files? I don't want the games at the moment just the reviews.Thank you. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262691#p262691 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-02
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Here you go. https://www.dropbox.com/s/tmitn3benqsn5 … s.zip?dl=1 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262708#p262708 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Who did this audio reviews? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262771#p262771 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Ishan Dhami via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Hi to all grizli gulch did not work in my computer well to lori there is a review made by PG13of chilling ham. about grizzly gulch a review made by your enemy o rather damn youlanda's enemy walter made an excellent review. How can I forget him or his dedication to audiogames.net or blindaccess Sorry thanks whatever you like Ishan. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262784#p262784 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : BryanP via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Brian Hartgen and Kelly Sapergia also reviewed Grizzly and Kelly did a review of Chillingham. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262830#p262830 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-03
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. And it looks like the files from the old site are still archived on the wayback machine, oddly enough. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262851#p262851 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. ah, I only heard from Kelly Sapergia one, but not from brian Hartgen, though. Does he play through the whole game, or just some parts? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=262971#p262971 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. I think he played only some parts of it. Of course, you wouldn't want to spoil the entire game, now, would you? After all, this was featured on the Bavisoft website, and they wouldn't want to spoil the entire thing for everyone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263006#p263006 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. aha. it's featured on bavisoft. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263055#p263055 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : harrylst via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. I have a question for the person that said bavisoft games work on win 10.Is there something special I have to do to get them to work? The intro sequences play fine, but when it's about to say which player are you it glitches out. I think I may need to install something special to make them work. I use win 10 64bit. thanks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263223#p263223 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Guitarman via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Hi Mohamed.Sorry I haven't been on the forum in a while but I've been meaning to thank you for the recordings. I really appreciate it, it maoes me remember playing these old bavisoft games. Thanks again! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263289#p263289 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-06
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. @Guitarman You're welcome man. @harrylst I have noticed in both Bavisoft games that they will crash if any sort of system application is running. The iso and rar files I linked should work on Windows 10, but be sure you *don't* have the task manager running, or they will crash. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263314#p263314 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Hmmm, that's interesting. I personally haven't encountered that error on Windows 10. Then again, I tend to only have Task manager open when I really need it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263449#p263449 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Very strange, since on my machine, it's extremely consistent, task manager=GG crash. I'm honestly surprised they run today, because Grizzly Gulch was designed to run under windows 95/98/2000. Actually NT was mentioned, so that might be why it works. That's one thing Microsoft seems to do well on, ensuring backwards compatibility with older software. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263519#p263519 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : harrylst via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. hey does someone have the gg patch by any chance? My gunfight scenes are slow (somehow my crash fixed itself) and I remember that was for dell machines and that's what I have. thanks! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263532#p263532 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : harrylst via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. OK.Here we go.I was able to find the patch, by using the wayback machine:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/323 … hV1_21.zipThing is, it needs the game installer to have run in order to use the setup file, and I can't find a way around that. So I went through my old cds, and made this.https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/323 … _GULCH.isoThis was made right off an officially released discs. It's amazing I still have this, but I searched on the off chance that I did. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263577#p263577 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Mohamed the weirdo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. @harrylst I believe your fight scenes issue could be resolved by a small cheat in the game itself. Go into the town, and press f11 and f12 to decrease and increase the fighting speed. Maximum you can go is 12, though for later scenes I'd recommend about 4 or 5. Oh, and f10 resets it to 0, and I'm not sure what f9 does. Personally, I feel this actually should have been documented, because it's not really a cheat, but more of a way to make the game more difficult. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263639#p263639 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games.
2016-06-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Bavisoft games. Lol. thanks for the original ISO file. I love this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263699#p263699 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
[Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
future of Bavisoft games Hello. Looking at posts from a few months ago, I saw that bavisoft had ben shut down. Are their games now abandonware?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146419#p146419 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games It's been down for a while.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=168849#p168849 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games For what my opinion is worth I think people should let the Bavisoft topic drop as well. They haven't been active for years, have not actively been active on this or any other forum, and their site is dead. People might as well just consider them gone, ancient history, and move on. No use beating the same old dead horse over and over again wanting to know if they will come back.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=168867#p168867 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games hi.bavisoft is absolutli dead.I was checked their website and it is down.I know that bavisoft wasnt active since six or more years, because I was tried to contact with autor but no response from him.I am thinking that bavisofts topic should be closed because I dont believe that bavisoft will back.I am still thinking what was happened with owner of this company, when and why he was abandoned this company and how long people where tried to buy their games.I think that this topic should be closed.Also I think, that their games should be uploaded in one place and created in the audiogames database, because alot of people can not buy this games anymore.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=168840#p168840 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games So, how about putting their games as abandon ware?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=168881#p168881 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games They don't exist anymore, but they haven't released the games to the public as far as I know.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146447#p146447 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games not sherURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146452#p146452 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Bavisoft have, for all intents and purposesdisappeared. Recently thanks to some actions taken by one of the members here, the site had ben removed by the host as you could still place orders, but all emails bounced and most people didn't get what they paid for.As far as sharing, the games haven't been declared as Abandonware, but Dark decided that you can in fact post links to them. He also modified the database entries to tell people that you shouldn't place order for now. As a result, several people have mirrored both Grizzly Gulch and Chilling ham, but I don't remember any link addresses. I'm sure you can find them if you look though.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146476#p146476 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Well, the problem is because Bavisoft haven't released them as abandonware it is still technically illegal to copy, share, and redistribute those games. Now, as Bavisoft no longer seems to be monitoring this forum etc my guess is if someone did decide to share and pass the games around Bavisoft wouldn't do anything about it. They have effectively abandoned them as much through their silence as anything else.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146486#p146486 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Not only that but before when someone suggested that the games be shared and made abandonware Bavisoft's only response was a simple please do not do this. My guess is even if they did decide to try a comeback with a new title someday (Chillingham 2 anyone?) they would fail miserably simply because they've lost the community's respect and trust in the last eight years since Chillingham was released.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146491#p146491 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Actually Bryan, that "please don't distribute our games" was now four years ago, and we've not heard a peep from them sinse. While I don't generally go in for redistributing material just because people want to, Bavisoft is something of a special case due to the games high rate of unavailability, or even compatibility with modern operating systems. If they ever did reappear, I'd be willing to give them a chance, but it seems we're more likely to see a living Tyranosaurus rex than Chillingham 2.Frankly I don't really see much point in discussing bavisoft anymore. If people want to distribute the games, fair enough until bavisoft says otherwise, accept they don't. after all, other companies are very much doing better work in the same line, especially for the iphone, look at the recent signus audio drama or inquisitor (both of which i do need to play).URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146494#p146494 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Not only that but I hear we're due for a new chapter to the Inquisitor before long.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146523#p146523 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games My reason for asking this is because my cd for Grizzly Gulch was lost or stolen. I really enjoyed playing it, so if someone could give me a link to get it, I would greatly apreciate it. Thank you, Brett WilhelmURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146536#p146536 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games http://harrison.istan.com/bavisoftI host them.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146546#p146546 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Well, who knows what happened to the devs of bavisoft.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146578#p146578 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Nobody really knows what happened to them, but I assume the manager of the team has lost the interest of the project, and slowly lost the contact to all the people who were involved as well. the strange thing is that nobody seems to know some of those people, wich I find pretty strange. I mean, why should they be interested in making games for blind if they don't know any blind people? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146581#p146581 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Nobody knows LOL. But it's precisely because of their total lack of communication over the last eight years, aside of course fromt he occasional and half-hearted please do not do this here on the forum when someone suggests that the games ought to be made abandonware and shared if they can't be obtained legally, that nobody takes them seriously anymore.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146590#p146590 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games Although it is "technically" against the law, we do it because we feel that we are not in much danger of getting caught. Bavisoft has been dead for 8 years, have made no word about their games, and so we can assume they are dead. (Although I did spend a month in Marburg and I made a comment like this about something else, and was repremanded so I think restrictions are a lot tighter over there) But that's beside the point, the point is that basically we 99.% chance won't be caught and new gamers can still enjoy the games this way.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146615#p146615 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: [Audiogames-reflector] future of Bavisoft games
Re: future of Bavisoft games They're some kind of ghosts. Nobody knows anything of them, we only know the name Jeff Gibbens in general but there's no way to contact them anymore, they just don't react, why ever they do that. After reading some recent posts of bavisoft, I don't think it's the spam filter which blocks everything. Also, don't giving out the stuff which has been officially ordered is called deceiving and is against the law.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146612#p146612 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games On the other hand, Bavisoft did react when posting in a thred in the beginning of 2013 or at the end of 2012, we couldn't read the posts anymore, cuz the thred has been deleted. Of course it's definitely against the law and the chance of getting caught seems to be very low, but in my opinion, I wouldn't distribute them.I'm wondering if grizzly gulch or chillingham are lying around on EBay or Amazon??Let's have a look... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146693#p146693 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games On the other hand, Bavisoft did react when posting in a thred in the beginning of 2013 or at the end of 2012, we couldn't read the posts anymore, cuz the thred has been deleted. Of course it's definitely against the law and the chance of getting caught seems to be very low, but in my opinion, I wouldn't distribute them.I'm wondering if grizzly gulch or chillingham are lying around on EBay or Amazon??Let's have a look... Edit:Nope, definitely not! No matched results for bavisoft, chillingham or grizzly gulch in the games area, only post cards or decoration stuff which have the word grizzly or something like chillingham in it.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146693#p146693 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games It's clear that laws need to change so that, in case a copyright holder clearly can no longer benefit (obsolete hardware or software platforms, EG) the right to copy ceases to remain exclusive. Sadly, the copyright maximalists will most probably fight to ensure that it doesn't happen.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146797#p146797 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I really respect what bavisoft did for the audio games comunity when there games came out. I don't respect the fact that they abandonded ship, and we lost contact with them. I think something like Chillingham 2 would have been pretty cool, but i guess we will never know. Grizly Gulch was the first audio game i ever played so, i still am fond of both games.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146851#p146851 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Bavisoft have, for all intents and purposesdisappeared. Recently thanks to some actions taken by one of the members here, the site had ben removed by the host as you could still place orders, but all emails bounced and most people didn't get what they paid for.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146856#p146856 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Paddy bavisoft posting in end of 2012? not last I heard, the last I've heard from them was in august of 2009, (I believe there's still a topic in the ag news room about it). I agree with sebby and arq that the law is likely against this, but frankly copywrite law isn't a moral law in most cases, indeed it's usually used within our society to provide money for the fat cat distributor and publishers, rather than anything to do with protecting ideas. The "no cracks or sharing commercial games" rule on this board has nothing to do with law, and everything to do with basic ethics and a desire to support our developers. On that basis, well Bavisoft are hardly around to support anymore, furthermore, unlike say dan zingaro, they haven't shown any decency towards their previous customers what with all the missed orders etc. I have personally spent not a little time and effort verrifying this fact, including E-mailing on several o ccasions, placing warnings on the website topics, and even tracking down their phone number in new york and attempting to ring them! all of these turned up a blank (the phone number gave no answer).Of course, if bavisoft turned up tomorrow and started selling updated versions of their games, well I'd be the first o to support them, and would ask Harielst and anyone else to take links like the above down, but the longer time passes, the less likely that seems. Myself, I just recommend people download the games and give them a try, then, move on to other stuff, after all it looks like interactive audio adventure dramas are going to be a thing on the Iphone.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146888#p146888 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yup. The Inquisitor for one thing.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146894#p146894 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yep, I really need to try the game, (and not just because it needs a db entry). There is also one in the new releases room that has been announced too.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146908#p146908 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I tried it out on my IPhone 3gs and was disappointed, because some time later, the game suddenly shut down. I need to try this out on my IPhone 4s by a chance.Chillingham or Grizzly Gulch on the IPHone, this would be great! You only need left/right gestures, as well as up/down and of course a help gesture, maybe a two-fingers tap would do it.Maybe they would have done that, if devices like IPhones became available or effordable. They did a real great job with both games, especially because games in 2000 were mostly dos or text based games I think. I don't want to tell anything wrong, but we haven't got much audiogames in 2000 which have been that amazingly made.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146951#p146951 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games If they couldn't be bothered to do propper updates or stop their cd ordering, I doubt they'd considder rewriting and porting the games to Ios devices :d. regarding games, well I'm not sure since I wasn't playing audio games in 2000, but when i tried them in 2006, I was far more interested in chillingham than gg, and only bought gg because it happened to come in the same pack. I really enjoyed chillingham for the whacky acting and puzzles, well at least until I finished the thing on the same evening I bought it, and found the ending was completely, utterly and absolutely unresolved! you found out dam all about what was happening in Chillingham, and barely even saw your friend. not to mention the game involved far too much trecking back and forth getting those blasted bugs! These days my opinion of chillingham and gg is about the same, mostly good voice acting, but just not enough content either in terms of actual story or in terms of gameplay, heck, my first run through gg I never even lost a fight until the rattle snakes.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146956#p146956 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games hiwhen needed i also can host the bavisoft games. but what i read from harrilst isn't that needed due to his hostingbut i am quite interested in the inquisitor. i asume that you all can't give much info about the game in this topic. but when this si the case i'll start a new topic. as far as it is allowed in this tread i'd be happy to hear about it.greetz mikeURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146961#p146961 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games hiwhen needed i also can host the bavisoft games. but what i read from harrilst isn't that needed due to his hostingbut i am quite interested in the inquisitor. i'll look up the tread in the new releases room.greetz mikeURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=146961#p146961 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Hi. Chilingham and grizzly gulch were the first audio games I ever played. I remember playing chillingham for a while and I was real disappointed when I beat it.If bavisoft never releases anything again I wish they would release the storyline for chillingham 2. I really enjoyed grizzly gulch even though it was a little to easy. One thing I really liked was playing cards. At the time grizzly gulch taut me how to play black jack and poker.Well they were awesome games at the time. It's really to bad that bavisoft has been abandoned.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147034#p147034 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Well my first ever audiogame in 2005 was "Der Tag wird zur Nacht".I heard of Bavisoft in 2007, but since I was in the 4th grade and I could only play games like "time adventures" cuz I could understand everything. When I listened to the bank and salon preview, I thought it's just a game where you move through the town and do things like going into the salon and fighting bank robbers. But in 2009 I would have everything to get these games! @BavisoftYou did a great job with both of your games, and I really like them. I just played GG yesterday and will start playing chillingham today. But the end is really disapointing. It's gonna be continued, that's what was been anounced, but we're all waiting for ages now! What have yo u done in the last 8 years, after you released the patch for GG?In fact, where was the patch actually located, when it was been released? It wasn't on the CD, I just heard of it and got it from a friend of mine.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147081#p147081 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Hmmm, paddy, I think addressing enquiries to bavisoft is rather spitting into the wind . Regarding the patch, it used to be on the bavisoft site in their faq section, hence why someone else has to pass it around if bavisoft have gone. As I said while I enjoyed the games, I do find them a little disappointing, and rather think bavisoft could've done a little more in terms of storyline and puzzles, heck, it took me longer to complete terraformers than chillingham! and at least there the ending made sense and you felt as if you'd got a reasonable conclusion.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147084#p147084 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games These days I play for the cute atmospheres, but there Grizzly Gulch is somewhat better.I've always wondered: what happens if you complete the very last scene in Grizzly Gulch (those damned annoying rattlesnakes) but then fail to catch the card dealer? Does anybody know?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147086#p147086 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I did try that once for kicks, and because I wanted to hear his taunts. unfortunately you go right back to the martial's office and have to go and get murderin sam again, rattlers and all. I'm not sure myself, Gg's lack of actual plot was sort of annoying, I also would have liked a bit more by way of environments in the game. Grizly had the environments, a lot more acting and some of the puzzles were interesting, (the witches made me laugh when they attacked), but it has far less replay value than grizly, since at least with grizly you can bang the speed up and play as an arcade action game, also the inconclusive plot and taling off in the middle with all that insect gathering was irritating.Had bavisoft continued it's likely chillingham 2 would've combined the best of both, but sadly not.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147088#p147088< /a> ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yeah. Perhaps the town isn't a very ideal place, or perhaps Bavisoft just did weird things with their loops, which was particularly noticeable in Chillingham. I take your point about the variation in Chillingham, but there was definitely something very cosy and cool about the saloon in GG, I think. Perhaps that's what it comes down to. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147089#p147089 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I did try that once for kicks, and because I wanted to hear his taunts. unfortunately you go right back to the martial's office and have to go and get murderin sam again, rattlers and all. I'm not sure myself, Gg's lack of actual plot was sort of annoying, I also would have liked a bit more by way of environments in the game. Chillingham had the environments, a lot more acting and some of the puzzles were interesting, (the witches made me laugh when they attacked), but it has far less replay value than grizly, since at least with grizly you can bang the speed up and play as an arcade action game, also the inconclusive plot and taling off in the middle with all that insect gathering was irritating.Had bavisoft continued it's likely chillingham 2 would've combined the best of both, but sadly not.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147088#p14 7088 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yep I noticed the looping issue, but at the same time I liked the idea that there were swamps, forests as well as buildings like the church, library etc, it gave a little more in way of diversity than just a saloon and some gun fightts interspursed with some rather synthy music for atmosphere. The saloon was done well though, and I like the diversity of games, though interestingly enough this is one thing which perhaps is replicated in the silver dollar game by draconis, which obviously has the saloon with some bar mini games, but not the rest of it.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147098#p147098 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yes, absolutely. Silver Dollar was also very cosy. Perhaps we should have an audiogame dedicated to risk game simulations. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147101#p147101 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Yeah, GG's getting boring after playing it for the third time in a week. I only play it a few times in a year, but not more than once in a month.In my opinion, Chillingham is indeed better than grizzly, but both games are different. In GG you just need to fight robbers, thieves and raddlers. In Chillingham you have a background storyline which you are playing.But as i'm not familiar with "The wizard of oz", I for example didn't know that water baloons thing, but I would have tried it anyway if I haven't listened to the review of Kelly Sapergia. There are indeed some spoilers in the game, but the TDLGames-Review doesn't exist anymore, as far as I know.It took more than a week till I finally finished the game, and I found a walkthrough but I only read the walkthrough after I gave the potion to old Bill. And when I needed more help, I read the next line of the walkthrough. However, I found some puzzles really, really difficul t if you're not familiar with some English words or even if you don't know a special book like "wizard of oz". URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147103#p147103 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I asked for these games for my birthday several years ago and received them from my mom, but my computer couldn't play all the sounds for some reason. I don't think it had enough memory or something like that. But the parts of the games that I was able to play were not bad. It's a shame that nobody has heard from the Bavisoft folks in quite some time. Wondering where they're hiding out? Somebody actually did reviews of these games on "Main Menu," I think it was Kelly Sapergia and he did an awesome job. I'll have to try the link here when I get the new laptop.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147485#p147485 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I asked for these games for my birthday several years ago and received them from my mom, but my computer couldn't play all the sounds for some reason. I don't think it had enough memory or something like that. But the parts of the games that I was able to play were not bad. It's a shame that nobody has heard from the Bavisoft folks in quite some time. Wonder where they're hiding out? I'll have to try the link here when I get the new laptop.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147485#p147485 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games They've probably fallen off the face of the earth LOL.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147520#p147520 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games @jjgeek, did you try the patch for grizly gulch? I noticed myself that without the patch, the game hung up on gunfights and became unplayable.@Pavy, yep, not getting puzzles due to english makes sense, and I admit the water baloons thing is a little obscure if you don't know the wizard of oz, though in fairness to bavisoft I will sayeven in England the original wizard of oz is sort of as much known as hansel and grettle, cindarella or most any fairy tale, indeed since it gets included in compilations of kids fairy tales (admittedly usually in a very abridged form), it's likely even more well known than something like peter pan or pinokio, since even children who don't read will have likely seen a tv adaptation of it at some point. Then again since I heard kelly sepergia's review first I'm likely not really in a position to say (I listened to the review before I decided to buy the game). The only puzzle I got really stuck on in chillingham was how to repare the church organ, since I assumed you had to use the lose key on it some how, though I do wonder if I hadn't heard Kelly's review whether I would've known to keep checking the random books in the library multiple times for an item. You also seem to have played gg much more than me. I believe even thought I've owned it now for nearly 7 years, I have played through it only about five or six times at most, and chillingham I know I've played only four.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147577#p147577 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I didn't get the balloon weapons puzzle, but then I always was a bit uncultured. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147598#p147598 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games While I was slightly disapointed with their games and how they lack replay value after playing them so many times, I would have liked to see chillingham 2. The ending was interesting, and i would have liked to have known what had happend. But it's very unlikely that we'llhhear anything from bavisoft again.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147907#p147907 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Interesting. Well, not sure if it was because I am well read or not, but the water balloons was pretty obvious to me. Of course, I've seen and read the Wizard of Oz and to me making a water balloon to take out the witches made perfect sense right off.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147915#p147915 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games One thing I didn't like about Chillingham, aside from the cliffhanger ending with no sequel anywhere in sight, was the silly and stupid Simon game you have to play with the hermit's allergic reactions.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147920#p147920 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Well, anyway, it's all over now. The end of an era. Bavisoft is dead.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=147952#p147952 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I actually liked the hermit's game. It was that damn bug catching sequence I hated.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148080#p148080 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I agree with Bryan. The hermit's game was a little silly, but the hole game was a little silly really, having to scare the lady off playing an organ with a frog? not exactly a true horror game in the way that descent into madness was.I also agree with Bryan about the bugs, that really felt tacked on just because they ran out of ideas of how to get those two items, and I really didn't appreciate the ending, indeed even at the time I remember being quite disappointed when I got to the manner and just opened the gate for the game to finish so abruptly, at least some explanation would've been nice rather than a vague ihint about a lord chillingham. I suppose it wouldn't have mattered if there had ever been a chillingham 2, and having a haunted house as the setting would've been a logical progression, but as it is the hole thing feels a little flat.It does make me wonder though how long it'll be before before som eone tries a full horror themed adventure game perhaps for the iphone, something like the alone in the dark series, that would be pretty awsome.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148108#p148108 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Bavisoft seemed to delight in exercising memory, especially towards the end of the game with the forest scene. That, together with stamina, seemed to be the challenge of the thing, to simply keep one's stuff in order.This was a shame, because my short-term memory is utter crap. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148144#p148144 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I'm wondering if it might be possible for us to collaborate and write a chillingham2 story, that could be made into a game with BGT or something similar. Something community driven. This would definitely I think give some closure to bavisoft.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148146#p148146 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Maybe, but as far as I am concerned it would be better to develop something completely new with its own back story, etc than to come out with Chillingham 2, and basically complete what I always thought of as a mediocre game at best. Chillingham was so-so, but really I didn't think much of it.Like many on here I didn't like the bug catching part at all. I found it a bit boring, and I about gave upon the game then and there. I would have had I known the game had such a stupid ending and left me hanging wondering what happened next. So I don't think it is worth anyone's time or energy continuing that game beyond its uneventful conclusion.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148170#p148170 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games We ought to do a game like the old Maniac Mansion series. Those were some highly amusing, albeit sadly inaccessible, titles from Lucas Arts. It had some RPG elements, namely controlling a small party of characters, combined with point and click adventure elements like what Chillingham used.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148201#p148201 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I don't know about the maniac mantion games bryan, though they sound interesting and I do know lucas arts were famous for writing their point and click adventures. IN terms of horror, I was always impressed by the broken sword games which I played through with a friend of mine on the playstation, sort of horror with demons, monsters and nasty cults meets an indiana jones style plot about lost tombs, ancient aztec articfacts etc. The game's setting was nice too since you start out with an explosion in paris, then followed the trail of clues to different locations around the world such as turkey, south america and ireland.Regarding a chillingham 2 as a community project, I agree with Tom. while a second game from bavisoft would've been nice, it wasn't such! a burning question that I think there really needs to be one, indeed I'd rather see a propper horror game with actual horrible deaths etc, not a comedy afair like chillingham, and I� 39;m fairly sure we will on the iphone at some point in the near future. @Sebby I agree on memory being the main challenge in chillingham rather than the actual logic to complete puzzles, but this for me was why the game was too easy. I've never really found simon style games that difficult.Of course, this is a personal thing, but really it would've been better had the game tested a number of the players' abilities, such as logical thinking, puzzle solving skills, code breaking etc as many of the graphical adventures do. Take for instance the insult sword fight in secret of monkey island.You need to defeat several pirates and then the sword master at sword fighting, which is done by choosing the correct responses to their insults. With the pirates, this is to an extent a matter of trial and error, although many of the insults are quite logical, for instance When a pirate says "soon my handkerchief will mop up your blood" the response is "so you got that job as janneter after all" when however you fight the sword master, her insults are subtly different meaning you need to think more carefully about the responses. For example she says: "My name is feared in every dirty corner of this island" With the same response "so you got that job as janeter after all" Yes, this is all possible with trial and error or simple learning, however it's much better if you can think logically about what response sutes what insult and therefore is a rather fun and challenging puzzle, and yes, to anyone who has played kingdom of loathing, the insult contest there is a direct homage to this part of Monkey island, and even has some of the same insults.This is what I mean by good puzzles, puzzles that are interesting to figure out and require logic and good analytic skills, that aren't based just upon a crazy system of verb guessing l ike if games, or a simple hear it and remember like chillingham, and which actually give you some entertainment too. Btw, how does inquisitor shape up on these lines? I'd be very interested to know as I am quite tempted to buy the game.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148226#p148226 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I'll say The Inquicitor have some good and really interesting puzzles. I remember a few of them as pretty strange, but not stupid and annoying. there are some extra secrets as well which I haven't managed to find yet. accept for finding the secrets, The inquisitor doesn't have any replay value at all. the same will happen, and there are no random things at all. I'll still say the game is very much worth the money, sinse it's a nice story to play through.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148237#p148237 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Don't forget that this is only the first chapter.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148265#p148265 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games Question: Does someone have the 3 reviews (Kellie's review of GG and chillingham, plus bryan's review of GG)? I would like to have them for old times sake. I just got a windows XP machine (long story) so I want to install the games and see if they would run on this XP. I hope and pray that they will.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148322#p148322 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games OK, since it wasn't too late and I agree these would be fun for the collection, I reinstated my access to Bavisoft and grabbed all the stuff in the Downloads section. Here it is, in a 78MB tar archive.Enjoy.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148419#p148419 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games How is it that you have access to bavisoft? I thought you got it taken down but you weren't on the team.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148470#p148470 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games I suspect he used the wayback machine to retrieve the site's contents.that can work, though I'm surprised that you can actually download hosted files from the older websites as I thought you just got the pages.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148486#p148486 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games The disabling of Bavisoft is actually done by the .com registry at the request of the registrar. I simply checked the whois information for Bavisoft to find the name servers that used to be delegated, and then queried them for the addresses of bavisoft.com and www.bavisoft.com, which I then stuck into my hosts file. Try it yourself, add these two lines to your hosts file:184.168.27.42 bavisoft.com 184.168.27.42 www.bavisoft.comyour hosts file is /etc/hosts on Linux or OS X, or c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts (in the usual case) on Doze.You can now visit the site again, which is still running. But of course, the above download means you shouldn't need to anymore. I don't know about the Wayback Machine; I was rather hoping that it archived downloads, but several reports here seemed to suggest otherwise. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148555#p148555 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games The disabling of Bavisoft is actually done by the .com registry at the request of the registrar. I simply checked the whois information for Bavisoft to find the name servers that used to be delegated, and then queried them for the addresses of bavisoft.com and www.bavisoft.com, which I then stuck into my hosts file. Try it yourself, add these two lines to your hosts file:184.168.27.42 bavisoft.com 184.168.27.42 www.bavisoft.comyour hosts file is /etc/hosts on Linux or OS X, or c:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts (in the usual case) on Doze.You can now visit the site again, which is still running. But of course, the above download means you shouldn't need to anymore. I don't know about the Wayback Machine; I was rather hoping that it archived downloads, but several reports here seemed to suggest otherwise. Edit: in case anybody later finds this post and is attempting this to reach Bavisoft to purchase their products, the whole point of getting the registry to disable it in the first place is that you can lose money if you purchase through bavisoft.com. Just don't bother, and don't bother contacting them either, because they&# 039;re obviously dead.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=148555#p148555 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: future of Bavisoft games To answer the question more fully about what happens after Murderin'' Sam, here's what happens. As was already said, you immediately get sent out to get Skeeter, the black jack dealer. If you succeed, the game abruptly ends. If you fail, you get sent back to the marshall's office to try again. You don't have to go get Murderin' Sam all over again if you've already succeeded in doing so. However, there is no way you're keeping the $5000 reward. After the failed attempt to get Skeeter, the marshall will ask if you want to try again, and you can say no and go play in the salloon till you're ready. When you next go to the marshall's office, you're immediately on your way to Skeeter's without a chance to accept or refuse.The GG salloon is my favorite place in a game to just go hang out when I want to do something mindless though I'm not usually doing the shell game. LOL! I usually have a player that never fights bad guys besides those in the bank, and I love shooting innocents at times. LOL! Do note that, if you're going to shoot innocents, don't have any money in your bank account, or Cecil will take it in revenge. LOL! GG was the first game I bought, and I'll always have a huge nostalgic soft spot for it.As for Chillingham, I enjoyed all except the multiple bug trips. That got way too repetitive, and I could have done without half of those. I enjoyed the other puzzles, but not the ending. Catching that damned frog! LOL!The way back machine is hit and miss on whether files can be downloaded. Sometimes you can, some game executibles I've gotten from there, but not most audio files I've tried. Probably a perceived copyright issue there, but just a guess.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=162912#p162912 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
