Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @55, Amazon can remove books from your Amazon library even if you've baught them. Of course, its illegal, since a digital good is still a good, and removal by a corporation from your library is an act of theft. You could easily sue them on that alone. After all, you paid for it; no license terms or other agreements bind you. Yuo can do with it what you like because you *own* it.Companies like to throw around phraes like "This software is licensed, not sold," as if they're giving you a revocable license to you that you've purchased from them and they actually haven't sold it to you. That however is not how the world works and is far more of an ideological concept than anything else. If I buy Windows 10, I own that copy of Windows 10. MS can deactivate my license, but since its a copy of Windows 10 that I *own*, I am free to crack the software to bypass software protection mechanisms at that point because (1) it is *my copy* and it is *privately owned* by me, and (2) the company has stolen *my privately owned copy* of Windows 10 from me; therefore, I have every right to take it back using whatever means are necessary.That's why I always convert my books to Epub as soon as I buy them from Kindle -- it prevents Amazon from forcefully erasing my content illegally. They can erase it all they like; I'll still have it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484345/#p484345 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @55, Amazon can remove books from your Amazon library even if you've baught them. Of course, its illegal, since a digital good is still a good, and removal by a corporation from your library is an act of theft. You could easily sue them on that alone. After all, you paid for it; no license terms or other agreements bind you. Yuo can do with it what you like because you *own* it.Companies like to throw around phraes like "This software is licensed, not sold," as if they're giving you a revocable license to you that you've purchased from them and they actually haven't sold it to you. That however is not how the world works and is far more of an ideological concept than anything else. If I buy Windows 10, I own that copy of Windows 10. MS can deactivate my license, but since its a copy of Windows 10 that I *own*, I am free to crack the software to bypass software protection mecanisms at that point because (1) it is *my copy* and it is *privately owned* by me, and (2) the company has stolen *my privately owned copy* of Windows 10 from me; therefore, I have every right to take it back using whatever means are necessary. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484345/#p484345 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook We now have the VB Cable Driver Pack, which gives you one virtual cable, any more and you'll have to pay.Most people would only need one virtual cable.I guess someone got sick of the trial message and made their own. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484338/#p484338 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @TheTrueSwampGamer: Again, as has been said before the focus is now on providing an easy-to-use blind paplication installer. EVen if you don't need something like that personally, I know a lot of people who could really use it, plus it's helpful to be able to just pop it onto a cd rom and install it whenever you need to reinstall your computer, then again most machines don't have disk drives anymore. The good thing now is that Narator is good enough that lack of an autorun.inf is no longer an active concern, and you can locate a setup file placed on a flash drive now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484295/#p484295 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
2019-12-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook where can i find the blindy handbook? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484280/#p484280 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Lol, virtual audio cable. I've not ... trial... heard that in a long ... trial... time. One time, some one called me on the... trial... phone with Google Voice playing... trial... around with it. ... trial... ...trial... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484173/#p484173 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @ignatriay: Welcome to the world of locked in ecosystems where companies don't care that drm does nothing to fend off piracy and does the opposite effect, and uses drm as an excuse to lock people into their ecosystem. Oh, and screw over your account even if you've invested $15000 into the ecosystem (yes, they can and have done that to people). However, while I don't know if I can talk about drm stripping actual purchased content on her because even that is a grayarea just screw the big entertainment industry execs, isn't it obvious why so many artists are going independent now because, oh wait, buying their content actually supports the artist and isn't going into even who knows how many corporate accounts? What a concept! Lol. But one such method that involves no technical circumvention whatsoever is this. Nothing can stop you going through the analog hole. That is, if you just want to carry the audio of the movie around with you on your portable player, just record your computer watching it and call it a day. UNless you're distributing content, nothing should matter what you do with it afterwords if you have legally bought the content. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484167/#p484167 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @49. I ran into this problem when I first thought this up a couple years ago. Part of my original idea addressed the issue of having software in the package that could only be downloaded from a specific source. I thought about simply having my installer deal with the freely distributable stuff, but for freeware required that it was obtained from the developer's site, I was considering something like the dropbox setup, where the executable downloads the full program from the internet. This way, the user stats aren't messed up, because we're still getting the package from them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484121/#p484121 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Moderation:Rwbeardjr, I am going to be editing your post about sources of illegal content and issuing you a warning. Here at audiogames.net, we take this sort of thing seriously. We obviously can't stop you visiting these sites, but we don't endorse them and we can't recommend the behaviour itself. In other words, if you want to talk about piracy and the grey areas thereof, please do it elsewhere and not on the public forum.You didn't provide specific links, but you gave more than enough info for people to follow a trail. This will be edited out of your post in the interest of forum protection.Please don't try to re-edit your post, make new posts detailing the same thing, or otherwise double down on this. We're prepared to escalate if we have to, but we'd really rather not do so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484099/#p484099 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault. Well, and because of the drm. That's my biggest reason. I mean, just what!!! I get why they do it, but still. It is beyond ridiculous. That's like buying a physical book, but you have to sign a notice that says, o yeah, you can only read this book at home. You cannot take it out with you; it has to stay at home; we will Monitor this at all times. If we see that your not complying... we will remove this book from you; even though its yours, we have a record that you purchaced it; we'll take it; and we'll block your access to buy books from this and any other books at our store. Granted, this would never happen; but I only said to explain what drm is. And people think this will stop the ilegal shit. Hell; it won't; it will have the contrary effect though. I mean, drm is saying the following, you bought this, but we can fuck you over if we so wish at any time, for any reason; even though you bought the thing and now its yours to do with as you wish. What if I buy a movie or a book; but I don't want to watch it in the default app from apple, or readi it in the kindle or books app. What if I prefer something else? Another app which I am more comfortable using? O yeah, I cant do it, because of drm. Ever since I realised this; I stopped buying books from amazon, itunes, etc, and movies for this very reason. I get my books from bookshare and other sights; but i'm not willing to put on with this kind of behavier of... Only play or read this here; else fuck you. Heck, around 2008 or there abouts, apple used to do this kind of shit with music as well, having it protected with drm; and yes, i mean music you bought through the itunes store; and now look;they got rid of it. Thing is, if the passed has already taught people how stupid this is; then learn from it, don't just, repeat the same mistakes!!! And the excuse for drm? So that people won't, edit, or share, the material. Really? I call bullshit. First. If someone edited said material and posted it out there... You can bet they would be sued in less time it takes someone to blink; for obvious reasons; same goes for sharing. I mean, they always make it clear in copyright with parts like, this material may not be distributed without express permition of the author or publisher. I mean, its there for all to see... And i bet as much as 85percent, if not more; of people wouldn't want a law sue up their ass. Drm is just, its beyond stupid; but as people don't learn from their fuck ups... its still here. Some never learn i guess. Drm is fine for say, a streaming service weather its movies or music, but for something you bought? Hell no. That's the point that i'm making here, for stuff you buy that has drm. For streaing services, duh, since your not buying the music nore the movies your watching or the books your reading; I agree with that. But for stuff you buy? Just no. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault. Well, and because of the drm. That's my biggest reason. I mean, just what!!! I get why they do it, but still. It is beyond ridiculous. That's like buying a physical book, but you have to sign a notice that says, o yeah, you can only read this book at home. You cannot take it out with you; it has to stay at home; we will Monitor this at all times. If we see that your not complying... we will remove this book from you; even though its yours, we have a record that you purchaced it; we'll take it; and we'll block your access to buy books from this and any other books at our store. Granted, this would never happen; but I only said to explain what drm is. And people think this will stop the ilegal shit. Hell; it won't; it will have the contrary effect though. I mean, drm is saying the following, you bought this, but we can fuck you over if we so wish at any time, for any reason; even though you bought the thing and now its yours to do with as you wish. What if I buy a movie or a book; but I don't want to watch it in the default app from apple, or readi it in the kindle or books app. What if I prefer something else? Another app which I am more comfortable using? O yeah, I cant do it, because of drm. Ever since I realised this; I stopped buying books from amazon, itunes, etc, and movies for this very reason. I get my books from bookshare and other sights; but i'm not willing to put on with this kind of behavier of... Only play or read this here; else fuck you. Heck, around 2008 or there abouts, apple used to do this kind of shit with music as well, having it protected with drm; and now look;they got rid of it. Thing is, if the passed has already taught people how stupid this is; then learn from it, don't just, repeat the same mistakes!!! And the excuse for drm? So that people won't say, edit, or share, the material. Really? I call bullshit. First. If someone edited said drm protected material and posted it out there... You can bet they would be sued in less time it takes someone to blink; for obvious reasons; same goes for sharing. I mean, they always make it clear in copyright with parts like, this material may not be distributed without express permition of the author or publisher. I mean, its there for all to see... And i bet as much as 85percent, if not more; of people wouldn't want a law sue up their ass. Drm is just, its beyond stupid; but as people don't learn from their fuck ups... its still here. Some never learn i guess. Drm is fine for say, a streaming service weather its movies or music, but for something you bought? Hell no. That's the point that i'm making here, for stuff you buy that has drm. For streaing services, duh, since your not buying the music nore the movies your watching or the books your reading; I agree with that. But for stuff you buy? Just no. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault. Well, and because of the drm. That's my biggest reason. I mean, just what!!! I get why they do it, but still. It is beyond ridiculous. That's like buying a physical book, but you have to sign a notice that says, o yeah, you can only read this book at home. You cannot take it out with you; it has to stay at home; we will Monitor this at all times. If we see that your not complying... we will remove this book from you; even though its yours, we have a record that you purchaced it; we'll take it; and we'll block your access to buy books from this and any other books at our store. Granted, this would never happen; but I only said to explain what drm is. And people think this will stop the ilegal shit. Hell; it won't; it will have the contrary effect though. I mean, drm is saying the following, you bought this, but we can fuck you over if we so wish at any time, for any reason; even though you bought the thing and now its yours to do with as you wish. What if I buy a movie or a book; but I don't want to watch it in the default app from apple, or readi it in the kindle or books app. What if I prefer something else? Another app which I am more comfortable using? O yeah, I cant do it, because of drm. Ever since I realised this; I stopped buying books from amazon, itunes, etc, and movies for this very reason. I get my books from bookshare and other sights; but i'm not willing to put on with this kind of behavier of... Only play or read this here; else fuck you. Heck, around 2008 or there abouts, apple used to do this kind of shit with music as well, having it protected with drm; and now look;they got rid of it. Thing is, if the passed has already taught people how stupid this is; then learn from it, don't just, repeat the same mistakes!!! And the excuse for drm? So that people won't say, edit, or share, the material. Really? I call bullshit. First. If someone edited said drm protected material and posted it out there... You can bet they would be sued in less time it takes someone to blink; for obvious reasons; same goes for sharing. I mean, they always make it clear in copyright with parts like, this material may not be distributed without express permition of the author or publisher. I mean, its there for all to see... And i bet as much as 85percent, if not more; of people wouldn't want a law sue up their ass. Drm is just, its beyond stupid; but as people don't learn from their fuck ups... its still here. Some never learn i guess. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault. Well, and because of the drm. That's my biggest reason. I mean, just what!!! I get why they do it, but still. It is beyond ridiculous. That's like buying a physical book, but you have to sign a notice that says, o yeah, you can only read this book at home. You cannot take it out with you; it has to stay at home; we will Monitor this at all times. If we see that your not complying... we will remove this book from you; even though its yours, we have a record that you purchaced it; we'll take it; and we'll block your access to buy books from this and any other books at our store. Granted, this would never happen; but I only said to explain what drm is. And people think this will stop the ilegal shit. Hell; it won't; it will have the contrary effect though. I mean, drm is saying the following, you bought this, but we can fuck you over if we so wish at any time, for any reason; even though you bought the thing and now its yours to do with as you wish. What if I buy a movie or a book; but I don't want to watch it in the default app from apple, or readi it in the kindle or books app. What if I prefer something else? Another app which I am more comfortable using? O yeah, I cant do it, because of drm. Ever since I realised this; I stopped buying books from amazon, itunes, etc, and movies for this very reason. I get my books from bookshare and other sights; but i'm not willing to put on with this kind of behavier of... Only play or read this here; else fuck you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault. Well, and because of the drm. That's my biggest reason. I mean, just what!!! I get why they do it, but still. It is beyond ridiculous. That's like buying a physical book, but you have to sign a notice that says, o yeah, you can only read this book at home. You cannot take it out with you; it has to stay at home; we will Monitor this at all times. If we see that your not complying... we will remove this book from you; even though its yours, we have a record that you purchaced it; we'll take it; and we'll block your access to buy books from this and any other books at our store. Granted, this would never happen; but I only said to explain what drm is. And people think this will stop the ilegal shit⋅ Hell; it won't; it will have the contrary effect though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Its not. I stopped buying movies from the itunes because of this. Their mentality? O, screw old movies, even if they have audio description... screw it. I mean, could they add old movies with audio description in there? Hell yes. That, plus they have very little content compared to say, the audio vault URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484055/#p484055 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Wait, isn't mentioning places to obtain audio described movies an nonallowed thing? I thought it was, considering there was a sh*t fest being thrown a while ago, unless I'm thinking about something else. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484052/#p484052 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
2019-12-08
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Blind angel 444 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @44 thanks for the recommendations, I love blind mice mega mall and the movie vault!!! The only thing is that I don’t like about the movies and tv shows is you have to use “send space”I have never heard of the other sites. Are they safe? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/484045/#p484045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @RWBeardJR: I don't think we need to direct people to Blind Mice since it's still a legal grayarea even though you have to sign up, since we don't know where they get their content and distribution right (why they're so opaque about that is beyond me). After all, I honestly wonder why Serotech is dealing with them and integrating them in a paid subscription service if their activity is in question, unless of course they know something we don't. As for ***.net not sure if you did that one on purpose or if the mods moved it themselves.Re, the handbook: I think the discussion has moved onto the software offerings now, since a shiny installer package for all the essential software would be nice. You'd be surprised how many people don't even know NVDA even exists, much less all this other useful software, and when they do it's like a whole new world exposed to them.Regarding creating a compilation package, does that count as ilicit redistribution even if we provide links to where to get the original package? I know some conventionally licensed software is pretty anal about redistribution even if the package is free. Admittedly, stipulating that software only be downloaded from a developer's site and nowhere else has its benefits as well, they can get metrics on how many users they have which could help in future developments, and it also is a safety net should those sleesy download.com sites get the bright idea to distribute adware laced versions of a developer's software offerings. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483963/#p483963 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Well discord is becoming more accessible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483908/#p483908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Can we just not rehash that damned handbook? It has already ran its course, and frankly, it painted a lot of people in a really poor light who absolutely did not deserve that kind of public shaming. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483889/#p483889 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Can confirm about the Teamtalk thing. Slack tends to be more favored for workplace communications and team organizing, while Discord has cornered the market on social communication with both text chat and voice chat. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483866/#p483866 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook ***.net URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483728/#p483728 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I unfortunately don't know a way to stream it, but you can download audio described content from places such as the Blind Mice Mega Mall movie vault, jeff.tdrealms.com, or ***.net if it still exists URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483725/#p483725 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @Jayde You're right, and if I brought it back up it was only to showcase that anything you do is going to produce some kind of something or other, for better or worse. It's not always something you can anticipate, but one should try to put his or herself in other people's shoes wherever possible.And yes, I was referring to you. To this day, you remain the only mod who reached out to me personally and said I should return. To be quite honest it was one of the greatest surprises I ever got, which is saying something considering that just a little under a year before we had done the AHC contest and that generated a lot of exciting results. You were pushy enough to get your point across, all the while remaining sensitive to the fact that it had been rather personal for me.If there's anything that could closely compete with that it would be Aaron's suggestion that I should be head admin more or less by default; he believed I was capable... I must point out that I flat out refused to do it. I felt that a person in that position must fulfill a rather tall order. They must be a great listener, a great motivator who inspired productivity and creativity, a person ready to follow pacively to make others feel good about taking the wheel, but who was ready to take charge when all the chips were down and make decisive moves. They must be intelligent, virtuous, multi-talented, willing to work under pressure, able to bring and or restore peace to and in the midst of chaotic situations, driven by integrity and a will that when tested is found to be tried and true.Because I have never felt I fit that mold, I could not with a good conscience consider, let alone try to begin to accept such a position. It was a rather touching gesture, however, and one I remember almost as fondly as the other. If the other eclipses it, it's only because of its unexpected nature. Here was me one night going through my emails and I've got one from Jayde that was more or less like, "Listen, you should really get yourself back here. Forget what you said; everyone will look the other way and forgive you for thinking it was the end. Tell them you cooled off. Tell them you rethought things through. Tell them whatever you have to, but come back and do what you do and be happy with us!"And no, I'm not really quoting that word for word... I'm kind of doing it off the top of my head and even that somewhat subjectively... I can honestly say that this is how I remember it and why it meant something to me coming from a guy who I previously saw as waaay too hard headed at times. rofl URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483681/#p483681 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
2019-12-07
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Blind angel 444 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I wonder what blind resources are there for free online streaming audio describe tv? Blindy.tv no longer is available for me, so does anyone know of any other safe sites? Thanks URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483662/#p483662 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I never read this book, but it sounds like the authors single out people because they are drama queens and kings, they just want to bring shit up and make people look bad etc. Don't think for a single second that they didn't do it with bad thoughts in mind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483630/#p483630 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Yeah, everyone had pretty much forgotten about it and you drag it out what a year later? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483622/#p483622 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @1 if you had a problem with the book, why did you wait all these months, after the topic was buried to talk about it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483602/#p483602 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Well, maybe someone can email me privately the book.On the note of a multi installer, things are updated, can anyone remember the list of blindy programs that were actually in there.I know ninite has some of these, it may be worth sending this list to them of at least the free ones.While I may not give a multi installer as such, maybe I can compile a list of things.I just need the original list and compair it to what list I have.I often do this with family and others that I work for with their computers.Sometimes people will get all the stuff they want, and crack the majority of it because they need it or think they do.Often they don't have the time or knouse to find alternitives.Having been a pirate and now using mostly low cost stuff freeware and opensource, I have had to substitute programs in fact I do this all the time on contract.If I can get this list, I will try to compile it as a christmas present to this forum and the community at large.As for the blindy handbook, you guys did say addition1 was safe.Still I'd like to read the current addition even if its read and exterminate.It may be a bunch of crap, but now I am curious I want to know what it is, after all one man's junk is another's treasure and I have a few days where I could do some of this stuff.I have allready found a random drama to add to my growing list of things to do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483597/#p483597 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Everytime I read old topics I get hungry to read all the topics of the time. The times where the forum was unified. For the only one reason of standing up to tyrany, or percieved tyrany. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483412/#p483412 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I read the handbook at one point. It was, in essence, an exercise in overgeneralization, mediocre writing, name drops, stereotypes and satire that missed its mark. At least in my opinion. I say let it stay dead, for the love of god.Nocturnis, I'm not sure if you're referring to me or not, but I remember being upset when you wanted to disappear and all that. I don't know if someone else made a stronger effort to get you to come back or not, but either way, I've never had any serious quarrel with you, and would happily work alongside you despite last year. Hell, I agreed with most of what happened anyway, if not with the precise methods employed by most folks. There's another bit of drama we don't need to bring back too loudly, eh? lol URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483411/#p483411 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Agreed with turtlepower and ironcross. There's no good reason whatsoever why the document should be reuploaded in any form. Nobody wants to see the dramatic and edgy topics that would rise after the fact. It's not like we don't have enough drama going on already from day to day. Just let the past be the past. There is nothing for frequent visitors of this forum to learn from it. It's not worth bringing back up. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483401/#p483401 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @Nocturnus My only question is how do you forgive someone that cast you in a bad light? I don't know if I can forgive him. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483397/#p483397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook The internet has taught me a great number of things. The greatest thing I've learned, however, is that silence is golden. Put another way, as a quote from only goodness knows where says, "It is better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."The internet does not forgive; the internet does not forget! Whatever you write or are given credit for or accused of, good or bad, famous or infamous, intelligent or down right stupid, remains forever immortalized, waiting for the next person to pounce upon it. The author of the so-called blindy handbook seems to realize this to some degree as he is attempting to pay restitution in the only way he knows how, which is to not redistribute the material again.I'm not excusing what he did, by the way... I may be mentioned in that book for all I know and thus would probably feel justified in blasting him left, right and center for daring to throw my name into the mud and drag it through the mire of life I already found difficult to navigate as it is... I don't know. What I do know is that for every offense I've commited against any and every person who knows me, there is and will always be, a need for forgiveness... I'll never stresss this enough; I need forgiveness. As long as I'm alive, I'll always need it.Wherever you are in life and whatever you're doing or getting ready to do will determine what happens next. For every action there's a reaction; cause and effect walk hand in hand. If I was mentioned in the book, I may not know why, but I do know I had a hand in it. In some people's minds, I may be seen as the most evil of whistleblowers in the blind community, the guy who was more or less willing to take down and pull apart an entire moderation panel for some semblance of justice to be dealt where it may or may not have been needed. This is something I'll never know. What I do know is the part I played in it. I also somewhat know some of the people it affected even if I don't know how it affected them. I also know that I did it because I felt I had to, not because I truly wanted to. Finally, I also know that I could not have brought myself to come back if one member of the moderation panel who will remain nameless unless they wish to step forward and declare themselves had not personally approached me and taken the time and the patience to invite me to come back. If not for all that had happened in this story, I wouldn't be here right now. For all of the above reasons, I suggest letting this nonsense lie as it is; the more of us who collectively look the other way, the better off we're all going to be. There will, as I said previously, awlays be those who will, either out of curiosity or out of malice, feel the desire if nothing else, to bring it back up and create further friction. What we can do is to try our best to keep it from getting out of hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483392/#p483392 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Besides. There was literally a post from the creator apologizing for it. IT is entirely possible he may not want the full thing redistributed, i.e. he may be trying to start fresh, seeing as they weren't even trying to justify their actions just clearing the air. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483390/#p483390 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @30 precisely, which is why it was never again updated. That one release caused so much drama and strife... quite honestly, it's not worth going through all that again for any amusement. After rereading it last night because of this topic, I would be inclined to agree with @27, @28, and @29, there really isn't anything too special about it. A few things aren't strictly blind specific... it certainly isn't as if drama only happens in this community. Similar sighted communities experience drama, perhaps of a significantly different brand, yet drama nonetheless. As some of the installers are, in fact, cracked, I don't believe the original package should be posted anywhere here. If you would like to remove those and replace them with the trial versions, that would be fine then. It is especially important that the cracked Jaws be removed, as that should never have been included. I personally would not like to see the handbook reuploaded, but, in saying this, I realize there is nothing I can do, because at this point, many people have a copy and it's only a matter of time before it gets linked to somewhere. However, because of all the controversy caused by the initial release, we will not be modifying or releasing any additional versions, nor would we prefer that it is brought to the forefront of the community's attention again.blindessentials.com is in fact hosted by JC-Hosting, but has been down for just under a year now because it was never restored after their systems crashed in December 2018. I have chosen to allow this to remain the case by not paying for the domain renewal, and so it shall be until, perhaps, the multiple program installer becomes a reality. However, this time, all credit will be given where credit is due, all developers will be linked to from the site so that the end user knows exactly where and what they're getting, and the package will contain no handbook. I agree, it is a fantastic idea, but one which may never happen. But if it does, this release will be more thought-out and hopefully, more useful and less controversial.Thank you URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483363/#p483363 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook The damage is already done, let it lie. At this point, altering it and re-releasing it isn't going to have any effect. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483352/#p483352 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook People are curious but also lazy and would go for a link to the altered document if it was posted here.Total suppression is just going to lead to the Streisand effect, only everyone is going to be sharing a document that has the personal details of real people in it.Would that really be fair on whoever is named here? I'd rather the thing stayed buried myself because it is retarded, but here we are almost a year later and someone is bringing it up again. It stands to reason that in the future someone else is going to become curious about the legend of the blindie handbook and ask, prompting another round of sharing and potential harassment for the people named within. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483347/#p483347 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook People are curious but also lazy and would go for a link to the altered document if it was posted here.Total suppression is just going to lead to the Streisand effect, only everyone is going to be sharing a document that has the personal details of real people in it.Would that really be fair on whoever is named here? I'd rather the thing stayed buried myself because it is retarded, but here we are. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483347/#p483347 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Oh come on, it really is not that hard to share it through other means. This is like the argument about audio described content all over again.I agree that most of it is pretty stupid though. The majority of people who read the thing will be sorely disappointed, so let them have their moment of anticipation. Maybe it will help them learn that A. delayed gratification is a thing, and B. wanting a thing strictly because it's forbidden rarely gets you anywhere. I say, let them obtain it on the DL, which will make them feel really important for the 45 seconds it takes to read it and realize there's nothing special about it. Better they learn that lesson through something relatively harmless, right? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483331/#p483331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Just upload the thing with names replaced with fake ones to protect the innocent parties, that way people can make up their own minds instead of being told that it's bad and they can't see it.Purposefully suppressing the entire thing is just going to lead to people asking someone who has the original document anyway, defeating the purpose of n we can't share it here.Beyond real names it was 1: pretty dumb and 2: relatively tame anyway. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483326/#p483326 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I actually do think the idea of a multipurpose installer is a good one. It's a shame that the two that I know of which were made by other blind people, this one, which unfortunately has the baggage of the handbook attached to it, and, if I remember correctly, Multi Extra, which needs no more rehashing, don't have the best reputation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483322/#p483322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I think the reason people call it a blindy program are because blind people are quite literally toying around with it, at least some are, when it was really meant as a versatile, if somewhat clunky, software mixer equivalent. I still say the real hardware would be better but I still need to get an audio interface for my zenix502, then again I might just get a usb mixer since USB audio is much improved, and it is independent of any soundcard faults that way. Zenix Q502 anyone?As for Teamtalk, it's quite unmainstream now, blindy program or not. First there was Teamspeak, and now Discord.Re, asking for the extended handbook: Agreed with Turtlepower. Especially after this guy, I mean that guy, came and apologized about the whole thing, I don't think it's wise for people to start shit over it again. I remember having the package somewhere, so if and only if the software is all legal I will upload it if Thatguy doesn't mind, although we might want to give it a going over as some of the software may be dated by now. This is why his idea of a multipurpose installer would actually be pretty nice, ninite has that but the programs do need to be offered on their site for the silent installers to work. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483320/#p483320 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook VAC isn't even solidly accessible.. anyone who calls it a blindy program is kidding themselves. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483317/#p483317 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Yes, Team Talk is primarily used by the blind these days, but I significantly doubt, accessibility mode or no accessibility mode, that it was written for the blind specifically. Same with VAC. It's gotten a pretty undeserved bad rep because of people in this community who use it, but there are a lot of legitimate uses for it that sighted people are just as likely to take advantage of as we are. I bet in a couple of years, now that Reaper has become more accessible and many blind sound designers are using it, these same people are gonna come here and say Reaper is a blindy program. Re-fucking-diculous.I have to wonder why this topic was even created. At the time that the handbook was posted originally on this site, several people took issue with it, including myself. After it was deemed inappropriate and taken down,https://forum.audiogames.net/post/402857/#p402857the topic mercifully got buried under the other day-to-day happenings on this forum. So, those of you clambering for a copy should probably look elsewhere, because I'll have no qualms about reporting any public resurfacing of it. If the names are removed, then that's a different story, then it's just stupid and will most likely be quickly forgotten once again. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483316/#p483316 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @13, can you provide a lst of sited people and organizations/companeis that use TeamTalk over all other solutions? I significantly doubt TeamTalk is used in the workplace or by sited individuals; there are far, far better platforms that they can use. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483306/#p483306 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Also, I will say one thing. Over all, the book isn't bad. It does describe some things really well. The only problem, as previously stated, is the mention of people's names. Take the names out, and you're pretty much good to go. There may have been some things that needed revising aside from that, but I haven't looked at it in months and would have to see it again URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483293/#p483293 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @7 It's not only blind people who use TeamTalk. It may seem like it, and in a way, many people are right. The likelyhood that you'll see sighted people is slim to none. And @19, you don't need to stear clear of TeamTalk, it's just certain servers you will want to avoid if possible URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483292/#p483292 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @17, correct. I'm staying far, far away from Teamtalk from hearing the second-hand stories of the crap that goes down there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483280/#p483280 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook the funniest thing about that book is blowing to microphones, like wtf roflroflrofl URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483274/#p483274 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook the funnies thing in that book is blowing to microphones, like wtf roflroflrofl URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483274/#p483274 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Oh, I very much doubt it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483272/#p483272 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I'm sure everyone uses TeamTalk and VAC. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483270/#p483270 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I know that I have a version of the book somewhere, it is the extended.Is that the last?If yes, I will upload. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483268/#p483268 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Well, as for the essentials thing, a list of the software would be nice.Actually there is a sort of thing like this on ninite for software the blind uses.But a page to the sites and where things can be gotten will be nice.I'm getting your free sound library, those are yours right?I am assuming these are yours or free because if they are not, I most like can not use them in anything.I'll listen to them though and see what I see.As for the handbook, I'd actually like to read it and see, because I am a curious bastard.Maybe if you revise it again now you know what you are doing.Its not like you are bad you just observed things in a different way.I wouldn't care to be dropped into any group without my say so.And the way you responded to all critisisms was commendable.Usually what happens is this entitled git writes this junk which has a lot of naming and shaming in there.He either does not show or comes on and acts the sore looser, that escelates into a week long flame war ending up with his being banned completely.He comes back under a different account and whines, then just about everyone I know who goes here on my feed says that this forum is full of fucking dramatic cunts and so it goes on.Thanks for not continuing that trend mate.Nice site by the way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483244/#p483244 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Only blind people use VAC and Teamtalk? Now that, my friends, is the funniest statement of the day so far... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483242/#p483242 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I can honestly say I never saw any of it, nor did I even know such a thing existed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483228/#p483228 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook @10 dude, no you can't have it again. @Thatguy You mentioned me in that dumb book!!!. Its not funny!!. some of those things in that document made people look bad. you really should have left it as a way for people to install multiple programs. I would put what was written about me, but I'm not sure if I should. His website is hosted by JC-hosting AKA @jonnyboy1991 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483220/#p483220 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Yes, I used to have this file but computer issues and stuff caused me to lose it, may I have it again? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483169/#p483169 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Hi.So, what is this blindy essencials package and that book or where could I go and read it and look at the package you compiled?blindy essentials is not around anymore as it seams so I would be curious.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483131/#p483131 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Blindy essentials is actually a really good idea. You probably should have just left it there though... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483125/#p483125 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Hello:At the top of the document I believe it states that the book was composed by That guy and those associates, which would be me and people associated with me. Allow me to attempt to explain our motives while composing this document. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to justify our actions. From the point that I was introduced to the blind community by being added into a random iMessage group with people I didn't know, which used to be a huge trend a couple years ago, I continually noticed several very strange characteristics that, living and interacting mainly with sighted people, I never really been exposed to before. I wasn't sure quite what to think about them, so I just mainly observed for a while and didn't do too much interacting. But one day, when setting up my computer after a reformat, I realized that I was installing a lot of programs that only blind people would use, like teamtalk, virtual audio cable, NVDA, TW Blue, and so on. So I put all those into a folder and had plans to ask someone to code me an installer which would run all those executables and all I'd have to do was press alt Y on the user account control dialog. That never happened, but I had also planned on distributing this package and calling it "Blindy Essentials," sort of like the Microsoft Security Essentials. It would be given to everyone who was just entering the blind community and get them up and running within it as soon as possible. As I was carrying out my plan, I began writing instructions for each program so everyone would be presented with everything they needed right out of the gate. Within those instructions I found myself outlining several of the odd characteristics of the blind community in relation to how to use some of the software, for instance, how to unsubscribe from channel messages on teamtalk because someone decided to start spamming. Eventually, I decided: "Hey, you know, why not just write a handbook for all this?" So I started writing. I shared it with a few friends and they found it hilarious, so I asked them to pitch in and write some sections.And thus, on December 31, 2017, the original blindy essentials package was released on Blindyessentials.com. It was big, I hear, and I applauded myself on a job well done. This edition's handbook did not contain names.But then, as more trends developed, I started to revise and update the book, which I planned to release in June of 2018, and did. That is the copy I believe @1 has issue with, and I can't really say i disagree with him. Allow me to try to forever set this straight.The purpose of the handbook was to poke fun at a handful of distinguishing characteristics of blind people and the way they acted, all under the guise of providing newcomers to the community a less shocking introduction. The first copy did an excellent job, and was not nearly as controversial. But the second one was, because, as the original poster made clear, we used names. We told ourselves this was because if the same people were around when someone first became part of the community, they'd have no hard time knowing which people were who and who was especially indicative of a certain trait, and boy did we ever hit the nail on the head. It was a very wrong thing to do, and I can't begin to imagine how the people we named were feeling after reading that, and we do apologize to any within the reach of this post. It was meant in the spirit of fun but quite clearly went far beyond that. Once again, I'm not trying for redemption here. I only mean to explain. This book was also written mainly by me when I was a lot younger and less mature, and I have since learned to think (longer, anyway) about the outcomes of my actions. Once again, we are glad some of you found it funny, as that is why we wrote it, but we should not have illustrated our point in such a way. Thank you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483052/#p483052 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
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Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook never read it sounds like somone had a lot of time on their hands. to write it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483025/#p483025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Exactly. And whoever the author is, if you read this topic, put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if you were mentioned in the book like that? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483020/#p483020 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Honestly I always read the book as being satirical (when I read ⠭ a while ago), but I do agree that singling people out isn't the best idea. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483017/#p483017 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook Allow me to tell you something very, very ironic: nowhere did I ever see my name in there. Nowhere. Yet they happily included others... makes me wonder. I mean, I read it and found it quite holarious, but it definitely was not the right way to go about things. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483014/#p483014 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook
Re: My problem with the Blindy handbook I thought it was hilarious, but you're right, it's low class and tasteless. I've got this trashy streak in me though that just revels in that sort of thing from time to time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483010/#p483010 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
My problem with the Blindy handbook
My problem with the Blindy handbook Hello everyone.So a few months ago, there was this document going around called The Blindy Handbook. In some ways, it's good. It lists some of the main essentials that people in the community should know. It explains things like TeamTalk to new people, but it has one problem. Before anyone who has read it says I'm going to talk about cracks, they're wrong. Although I disagree with the authors giving places to find these cracks, this is not my main issue with the document. My main problem is the names of people in the book. Who does that? I can understand if they said something like, "There are some people who do this", or "There are some groups who do these things". This book doesn't do that. This book calls individual people out for things they may or may not have done. I do remember some of the names from it and some of the things that were said about them, but I will not mention them here. Did the author of the book ever stop and think about how that could end up affecting the people they mentioned? Again, if they had just said something about some people or some groups, fine. But calling people out for mistakes? Not ok. We are all human, we all make mistakes, and it is nobody's place to publically humiliate people for the things they have done URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/483000/#p483000 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
