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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Hello.Im not sure if Ill get into trouble or a modirated worning but since Im not giving a link it should be okay.Theres a program for downloaidng torrents called bit che.It allows you to download torrents, and is very accessible.Type in the name of the thing you want, press enter, tab over to the list, find the file youd like, press your applications key and arrow down to open, then it will open in something like bit torrent.My opinion on torrents is this; is it wrong? I dont think so. I torrent quite a few audiobooks and some tv shows I would like to listen to. I pay for most of my audiobooks but older ones or ones like starwars that I had once when i was yunger and could never find again, yeah Im going to torrent them.Although I do buy music from itunes, I also wonder how much the artist gets. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=198227#p198227 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. yep. torrents are great for getting rare stuff thats no longer being made. This probably anoys the life out of record labels, etc because they cant trundle stuff out 10 years down the line to rip us all off. Also, I see that TPB is flying the pirate flag again. It cant be long now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=198322#p198322 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. OK OK.I recognice i really cracked and pirated software. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=198032#p198032 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Hi,Im not sure how much an album would be if paying for time in the studio, so to speak, would happen. It would depend on the album, I suppose, and in that case, some of them could become very expensive. Is that, then, truly worth it? The current model would be fine if the labels wouldnt take so much of the cut. Im buying stuff from iTunes, the trouble is, I dont know how much the artists I like are truly getting. If theyre getting like ten p out of the nine pounds that I spend, well, thats rather annoying. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197893#p197893 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Maybe you need to be not rude and actually include the source of that article?p.s, I think that belongs to torrent freak. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197906#p197906 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. It does, and yes, that annoys me too that the source wasnt given. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197928#p197928 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. @Aaron: no, I mean that creators would be paid per hour spent creating, rather than per-product, which is necessarily an unreliable measure of value, owing to the digital landscape, and of course piracy. Once a work is produced, realistically the cost of distribution is zero, so the cost of the product is always unrealistic; we should charge what it actually cost to create. Of course, fairer distribution for artists would then also be almost guaranteed as a side-effect, since keeping the prices where they are today would necessarily mean less money overall for the content publishers.Subscription or Permanent loan always carries with it the risk that you as an owner would later lose access, so I dont believe streaming should be the new normal for ensuring the revenue, although it does seem like that is increasingly happening, sadly. Theres a cost to everything, I guess, but it should be in favour of the consumer, not the producer. Id happily pay more if it meant being able to compensate the artist _and_ keep my own copy. I expect that like many things, streaming will seem feasible enough for the vast majority of folk, and hence be accepted. After all, whats the difference if the provider can guarantee you access? But its a slippery slope. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197871#p197871 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. @Gellman: I cant agree with piracy purely on the basis of a dislike of the current regime, firstly because there are indie artists who get my money, and secondly because, for better or for worse, you cant support many creators without giving money to their agents. It would be far more fruitful to stand up for positive changes to the law, and probably be more credible too. Much as I dislike the copyright regime, I think its the implementation and not the idea thats the problem--if copyright actually functioned, then it would, in fact, allow private sharing, platform portability, archiving, public interest work, etc. while allowing artists to benefit from the contributions of their fan base. It may very well be that we need to move to a service industry model of production rather than a product-based model, but Im fairly sure wed still have copyright to keep the state of the art advancing and Im totally OK with that. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197770#p197770 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Hi,@seby: what do you mean by service model? Are we talking subscription-based, rather than pay once for an item/download/cd/whatever? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197776#p197776 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. @the terminatorYou are not entitled to censor this forum, and fortunately talking about file sharing is not illegal.The pirate Bay has not been banned, and there is no law banning visitors from the site.The site blocking obligation instituted by some nations only applies to the ISPs -- not the users of the website.TPB has been blocked by the ISPs in my country, but there is no law against users circumventing the block or teaching circumvention methods.I am against copyright and all other so-called intellectual property.Dont like it, thats your problem.BTW, kickass.to and btdigg.org is a great replacement for TPB. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197535#p197535 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. @SebbyWhen you pay legally for media, you are actually supporting more copyright fascism.First, your money contributes to the budgets of organizations who are pushing for harsher copyright laws, and second your purchase feets into the notion that non-commercial sharing is theft.Youll be surprised how many unions purportedly representing actors, journalists, authors and musicians are also supporting anticonsumer legislation and antiprivacy measures such as telecommunication data retention.Several copyright holder organizations are also dead set against fair use and broad copying exemptions for the disabled.Read this:https://www.techdirt.com/blog/?tag=blind URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197536#p197536 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Hi,@terminator: Why should we delete this thread? I think everyone knows that pirate bay could be considered illegal, but look at what these posters are saying. A lot of us like to buy our stuff anyway, and people are now talking about what governments are doing right and wrong. I dont see a problem with that.Now, if someone said oh hay, heres lots of links to some free stuff that I just downloaded from an illegal website, here ya go, then Id start having to put my moderator hat on. But that hasnt happened. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197434#p197434 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Druv, I believe the wording inhe the UK was if the content was in a format specifically intended for VI people so if the other laws are anything like that then yes it would technically be a breach.Crashmaster, youre forgetting about lawyers fees. Thats both an expense for the bigwigs and something they could potentially ask the court to make someone they take to court reimburse them for. I believe making the other side pay for legal costs is a common part of litigation at least here in the UK. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197329#p197329 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Druv, I believe the wording inhe the UK was if the content was in a format specifically intended for VI people so if the other laws are anything like that then yes it would technically be a breach.Crashmaster, youre forgetting about lawyers fees. Thats both an expense for the bigwigs and something they could potentially ask the court to make someone they take to court reimburse them for. I believe making the other side pay for legal costs is a common part of litigation at least here in the UK.Of course if youve allowed others to download parts of the work in question from you, something pretty common with torrents, they could also demand you pay for the copies of the work that you facilitated others to pirate as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197329#p197329 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. I dont believe that pirating should be a legal. Wile I do respect the time someone puts into a program some times I can not agree with the prices. I always bring this to the table. Lets say your friend has a audio game that you really want and he lets you barow it. You make a copy of it for your self and return it to him. Now is that illegal sense he already bought it? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197355#p197355 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Our government is unashamedly in the pocket of copyright lobbyists; I dont take anything they say on the subject of the ethics of piracy to heart. They have no credibility. Every time they are given a chance to reform the law, they do so only to the extent that consumers are already breaking it--for example, the recent personal use copying exception does allow CD ripping but does not allow DRM circumvention without you going to the Secretary of State. WTF? Did the irony of this really go over their heads? Apparently it did.My ISP, Andrews Arnold, are explicit in their not blocking TPB. I of course want to support my favourite creators, but I also want fair and just treatment for all consumers. So, while I do everything I can to stay on the straight and narrow, own the vast majority of my stuff legally and often in physical form, and use the plethora of alternatives where they are available, ultimately I will do piracy if there exists no other option and don ;t see it as a bad thing as long while the industry and government are happy to shaft the people. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197365#p197365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Our government is unashamedly in the pocket of copyright lobbyists; I dont take anything they say on the subject of the ethics of piracy to heart. They have no credibility. Every time they are given a chance to reform the law, they do so only to the extent that consumers are already breaking it--for example, the recent personal use copying exception does allow CD ripping but does not allow DRM circumvention without you going to the Secretary of State. WTF? Did the irony of this really go over their heads? Apparently it did.My ISP, Andrews Arnold, are explicit in their not blocking TPB. I of course want to support my favourite creators, but I also want fair and just treatment for all consumers. So, while I do everything I can to stay on the straight and narrow, own the vast majority of my stuff legally and often in physical form, and use the plethora of alternatives where they are available, ultimately I will do piracy if there exists no other option and don ;t see it as a bad thing as long as the industry and government are happy to shaft the people. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197365#p197365 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. hi,I am completely against copyright and patents. These two things form barriers against inovation. An example: lets say I developed a file sharing program and acquired the patent for it. This program can no longer be improved by anyone. Aditionally, copyright blocks inovation to withhold the right. For example, copyright lobbies have pressured some sound card venders to disable or remove stereo mix. I had to hack my old pcs drivers .inf files to get it to work. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197388#p197388 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. aw come on, please delete thread! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197392#p197392 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Just a heads up, the part that says we will report it first does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. Its not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the block got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves arent bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, oh hay this is a torrent file, lets ban it becasue its got illegal content, period. That isnt technically true. While yes, Ive seen a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I ued it, it wasnt all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed lets play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The governemnt then blocks it, then says, we will not allow the use of zip files anymore and this would also include rar files. I think ther would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, its how the torrent files are being promoted thats causing governments to react big time. In fact, Im quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol its elf, and that is really quite a shame as thats whats caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, Im wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, itll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. Itd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I dont really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these peoples needs, those who want to not jsut try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197301#p197301 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. moderation (dont panic though!)Ive decided to actually keep this topic here, because this could spark some interesting discussion. Usually though, be very careful here when talking about torrent-related content as a lot of it has unfortunately been considered crcaks, even though torrents dont necessarily have to mean that. So, here goes with the discussion:First, a heads up, the part that says we will report it first does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. Its not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the blo ck got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves arent bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, oh hay this is a torrent file, lets ban it because its got illegal content, period. That isnt technically true. While yes, I saw a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I used it, it wasnt all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed lets play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The government then blocks it, then says, we will not allow the use of zip files anymore and this would also include rar files. I think ther would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, its how the torrent files are being promoted thats causing governments to react big time. In fact, Im quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol itself, and that is really quite a shame as thats whats caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, Im wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, itll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. Itd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I dont really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these peoples needs, those who want to not jsut try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197301#p197301 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. moderation (dont panic though!)Ive decided to actually keep this topic here, because this could spark some interesting discussion. Usually though, be very careful here when talking about torrent-related content as a lot of it has unfortunately been considered crcaks, even though torrents dont necessarily have to mean that. So, here goes with the discussion:First, a heads up, the part that says we will report it first does not refer to this (the audiogames website) I think this is a copy pasted article. Its not spam, but the entire contents of the article was put here.I find it interesting that companies are going after the pirate bay, and I still wonder what to think about this. In the UK, the government consider the torrent websites illegal, and have actually started to make ISPs block websites like the pirate bay. As a moderator I can very safely say that I have not used torrents for a very long time, since way before the blo ck got initiated. The trouble is though, torrents themselves arent bad. I could, in theory, put the exact same thing, such as a game walkthrough, found in a zip file, make it into a torrent and send it to anyone like any other file. I think torrents became so infamous because of the pirate bay and such, and therefore have been permanently scarred with an image of, oh hay this is a torrent file, lets ban it because its got illegal content, period. That isnt technically true. While yes, I saw a lot of illegal content around on the torrent networks when I used it, it wasnt all bad. Remember, for instance, on this very forum in fact, someone uploading an Entombed lets play using torents?Now imagine this chilling scenario:Someone makes a website full of illegal zip files. The government then blocks it, then says, we will not allow the use of zip files anymore and this would also include rar files. I think ther would be a gigantic backlash if that were to ever happen, because the fact of the matter it has never been about the torrent file itself, its how the torrent files are being promoted thats causing governments to react big time. In fact, Im quite sad to say that I think the pirate bay is promoting torrents way more than the official company behind the protocol itself, and that is really quite a shame as thats whats caused this incredibly bad thought processing on torrents.Which begs the idea: what next? If another protocol is developed that superceeds torrent, Im wondering what steps might be taken to promote it as just a general means of use rather than floundering the scene with copyright material. Doubtless, itll happen, but the way to move forward would be for the theoretical company, I think to get partners on board who distribute legal goods, be that free software, or even be that stuff to buy, and promote whatever the new format is that way.What makes things even more interesting is that these pirates actually buy more music than their mainstream counterparts, so ther almost has to be a way that if a new format were developed, that everyone gets to use things the way they are intended. Itd be kind of cool if, for instance, you had a client, downloaded the file and the file would let you select some tracks that you can then stream maybe for a couple of months, while the rest could be played once or twice. This way, the ones you keep can hold you over until you had enough funds to pay and claim the hole album, and remove the limits.I dont really know how this would work for games, however, another popular source of piracy unfortunately. What could be done to saiciate these peoples needs, those who want to not just try a demo, but try the full product or at least more of the full product than a usual demo, before buying? Ive heard stories of this actually happening, and it i nterests me what the thought process is. Shouldnt a demo be enough to see what a game is like? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197301#p197301 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Interestingly I know the mainstream games company Relic has used torrents for distributing updates as an alternative to straight HTTP downloads in the past.The thing with torrents is their distributed nature. Thats the reason theyre so difficult to pin down, and thats what makes them ideal for shady activity. It has plenty of other beneficial applications of course but since when did the media care about that? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197302#p197302 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Hi all.in the early days I did play in the dark arts who hasnt.I still have a bit of questionable material But that is a lot less than I used to have thanks to opensource and other freeware and low cost apps.A lot of sites legal and otherwise use torrents because of their distribution mediumI have been both a pirate and hacker and a normal consumer so I understand both sides of the coin so to speak.That said I have my reservations about the big corperations that handle just about everything under the sun.I love them because they make the world work but I hate them because they are unpredictable and I have no idea where I actually stand as a consumer.That was my main reason in the early days of the net I became a pirate for a while.And if it wasnt for low cost, opensource and freeware Id still probably be fighting the good fight.Thankfully while they are still a big pain there are outlets for most cases u nless you are a big tv series buff and I am but not that bad that I would use all my space to do that stuff.With the new wipo treaty for the blind books and stuff can be freely distributed round the place and that means I can subscribe to bookshare and download all I want.True I cant get audio drama as such but with indipendant software and music/ audio producers its a lot easier.Sadly torrents have gotten a bad name.I wouldnt touch them even to get lagit stuff but I have no idea where I stand.Torrenting itself is not alegal but I dont know how far this translates.Right now, at least till the big companies can get costs down to the point they can sue just about everyone they want even if you are still on the other side unless you download large volumes or something its unlikely at least in new Zealand that you would ever get a warning notice.And even if you got 3 notices and appeared in court its unlikely unless I guess you were really bad that you would actually have to pay for much.There have been only a couple times publically that any charges have come to pass.its 25 bucks for each warning so 75 bucks for 3.its 250 to get into court so 320 bucks already for the big wigs to get you in court.If guilty well you have to pay all that.pluss I think there was a damages fee of 50 bucks, and the cost of the stuff you stole the digital ones I think that was 6 or so bucks in this case.Its a bit of a jolt but nothing more.And whenever the big corps have asked for people to spy on users and or other drastic measures, they have turned down just about everyone else.No one wants to have to spy on everyone else, Also in an interesting development, one the big guys should follow if at all possible, there was a small company that was on one of the lists I was on.Who contacted the list because several people were pirating their stuff.There was a discus sion on the list over several days and a deal was nutted out.At the end I congradulated the company for talking and getting both sides of the story.And while I fully realise that that wont solve everything under the sun, it does put you on better relations with your users.Sadly thats not always the case.while I have found a cheap and legal office and other software website, the price for some of this software, ie office are so outrageously high that I am wandering who would buy it now.free online office and cloud based solutions for less than it is for an offline version pluss opensource software ofcause exist, but to be honest I am supprised not more have complained about the prices.Things are better than they have been but I still have my reservations.there are even people thinking about making vpns alegal.There will be always something the big guys hate and we love.They wont win every case and neither w ill we.The main reason though that we have got off so lightly though is that for the big corps each is more dangerous to eachother than the users are.So if they were not fighting we would probably be in trouble.Its been that way for a while.And I hope it stays that way. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197305#p197305 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. why the... this topik is not deleted moderators? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197306#p197306 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. Please read Aarons post and youll know. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197313#p197313 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Pirate bay copy come back following rade. The thing with bookshare and other such sites is that they dont have all the books available. So I dont know, if theoretically (coughcough...) I grab a book from a torrenting site would that be illegal as I being a blind person am allowed to download books from the internet? I dont know about how the bill is worded, but was just curious URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197322#p197322 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Pirate bay copy come back following rade. BREAKINGMore than three days have passed since The Pirate Bay went down after a raid on a Swedish datacenter. While there is still no sign that TPB is preparing a comeback, several copies of the popular torrent site are drawing in hundreds of thousands of visitors.pirate bayThe torrent community is still shaken up by the abrupt raid on the Pirate Bay this week.With millions of visitors a day TPB was one of the largest websites on the Internet and despite the police action its users remain hungry for fresh content. We previously reported that other large torrent sites have noticed a significant uptick in traffic in recent days. However, many of TPB’s users are eagerly waiting for the original site to return. Thus far it’s still unclear whether the site will return in the near future, if at all. Our queries to find out more remain unanswered for now.Meanwhile there’s a ‘worrying’ development that Pirate Bay “copies” are gaining a lot of momentum. While none of these sites are associated with The Pirate Bay they are happy to welcome the extra visitors.First a word of caution. None of the sites below are related to the “official” site and visitors should beware of scams and malware. In recent days we have received more than a hundred tips from readers who announced that TPB has returned on the thepiratebay.cr. While this site does look familiar, it’s by no means an official incarnation. In fact, as we highlighted earlier, the .cr domain used to be one of the many Pirate Bay proxy/mirror sites. It has no upload functionality nor can visitors sign up to add torrents. Interestingly enough (and adding to the confusion) the site’s operators started to populate the site with new content themselves a few hours ago. The .cr domain, which was incorrectly promoted by several news media sites as an official comeback, previously redirected to thepiratebay.ee, a site that used to charge people for access to torrents. The .ee domain is another mirror site that’s getting a lot of new visitors. While the site removed its paygate shortly after the Pirate Bay raid, potential visitors should keep this history in mind. As is true for most mirrors and copies, the .ee site mimics Pirate Bay’s appearance but doesn’t allow people to upload new files. Other mirror sites, some of which have added fresh content and convenient chat boxes, include thepiratebay.hk and thepiratebay.org.es. These sites, like the ones above, are not connected to the original site. In fact, The Pirate Bay still has access to its .se domain name so there would be no reason to change that for a potential comeback.Finally, there are also “copies” that make it clear that they’re not the new Pirate Bay. OldPirateBay.org, for example, was launched by the people behind Isohunt.to. The operators told TF that their main motivation is to keep the torrents accessible, not to cause confusion.“We saw a lot of topics where people are looking for something like this. For sure it has some bugs and glitches but we are going to improve it. The tool is for the users’ convenience till TPB comes alive again,” we were told. If The Pirate Bay does indeed come back we will be the first to report it here. Until then, caution is warranted. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=197258#p197258 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
