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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @aaron: Hmmm. Actually, I have a lot of them. First off, I was incredibly glad to have the transcripts. While I love the voice acting on the show, I am a lot less thrilled by the sound design. This might be because this is only the third animated show Ive ever watched in my life, as I generally avoid cartoons of any kind. But...Im sorry...that isnt what a Pegasus in flight sounds like! The flight sounds they use for Rainbow Dash dont make me think flight, they make me think dishwasher from the 25th century having an accident. Thats the worst example, but I find all of the other sounds equally bad. However, the rest of the show, plus just ignoring the sound design because I dont need to listen carefully to follow along thanks to the transcript, meant it only really bothered me for about half of the first episode and then I mostly got over it. Second off, I am kind of surprised how much I *do! * love the voice acting. Every single character sounds completely and totally different from the voices I was hearing in my head from fanfic. Being the kind of person I am, I am shocked at how totally fine I am with that. Normally, I get a set idea of how things should be, and cling to it pretty tightly. But the actual MLP voices sound even more like the right voices for those characters than the voices I was imagining for them. So, who ever was in charge of casting has mad skills to make it that satisfying. Now that Ive dealt with the technical stuff, I can move on to the plot. I dont know if youre a Piers Anthony fan or not, but Equestria feels so much like xanth without the sex, and a few less puns, and a lot more ponies, its astonishing! When I was watching Dragonshy, I could have sworn that exact plot happened in Xanth. But I looked through my _guide to xanth_ and the xanth concordance, and it turns out it didnt. It just felt super xanthian. The starting two-parter episode also felt like something that could have happened in xanth: a young creature is sent out on a quest to do x by the all knowing magician, and along the way meets a group of companions, and discovers the things that were really important all along. At the end, just when everything seems lost, the all-knowing magician tells her that she was meant to discover those things from the start, and all is well. Even the dialogue feels like something Piers Anthony might have written for his child characters. I remember actually saying out loud at the end of part 2: My God, this is early xanth again. Also, MLP uses similar word gags that dont really affect the plot much, but are funny, and encourage a love of words and language, while building character. Also also, a lot of the animation gags (hearts in peoples eyes, seeing stars, etc) are thing s that absolutely can and do happen in xanth. The things that are important in MLP are really similar to the values that are important in Xanth. Xanth and MLP are both interested in clothing only for appearance sake, otherwise being fine with nudity. Xanth even has a lot of equines in it: centaurs, flying centaurs, unicorns, ghost horses, alicorns, etc. They even seem to have similar ideas about exactly what it should mean to be royalty. The reason I am harping on this so much is because the xanth books were the books of my childhood. I grew up reading, re-reading, and otherwise loving the hell out of them. But as I grew up, I got more and more uncomfortable with the side elements of xanth: strange sex, female objectification, etc. Also, as xanth went into its 30th book, the plots got tired, and the characters got warn. I mostly convinced myself that it was because Im just too old to enjoy new xanth books now, not because Piers A nthony jumped the shark long ago. And then I finally watched My Little Pony. This is almost exactly how it felt, to be 11 years old, and curled up with _Aisle of View_ or _Ogre Ogre_, but distilled into half an hour. And you know what? Im still not too old. I didnt do all of the awful growing up that I was kind of afraid I had gone and done. Sure, Im more aware of things now, so I can see the holes that Xanth had that I couldnt see when I was 11. But My Little Pony doesnt have most of those pitfalls. Its just silly little adventure stories, with a lesson at the end, where nothing really horrible ever actually happens. I dont mean that in a demeaning way, at all. I lived for exactly those kind of stories as a teenager. But I lost them somewhere during university, and could never quite reconnect with my favourite characters and stories. But finally, in Friendship is Magic, I 9;ve found them again. And thats what kept me up all night.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=174022#p174022 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: Yeah, thats where I got them, and then I promptly lost the link. I tend to archive things I want to keep on sendspace for myself anyway, especially things like that where I suspect a copyright takedown is coming soon.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173937#p173937 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: Yeah, thats where I got them, and then I promptly lost the link. I tend to archive things I want to keep on sendspace for myself anyway, especially things like that where I suspect a copyright takedown is coming soon.In other news that nobody cares about, I lay in bed and watched MLP until about 1:30 in the morning, and yet did not get another MLP related dream. Nope! Instead, I dreamed that I was a DJ at a radio station, and someone had invaded the studio and was forcing me to put this song on continuous play:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRWAFQqQY9YI woke myself up going turtle yeah yeah yeah yeah! turtle urtle urtle urtle in that half-asleep mumble voice that you have when youre talking in your sleep. And now that song is stuck in my head, and probably will be all day. Yuck! I guess now that Ive watched the show my brain is less fascinated b y it? Im mostly sharing so there is a chance someone else will be stuck with that annoying music in their head. FMLURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173937#p173937 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,@fastfinge: ouch and lol. Im kind of surprised you stayed up late watching mlp. Im now wondering what your thoughts on the show are, now that youve seen some episodes.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173963#p173963 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Yay! Happy watching then! Its a bit funny that you dreamed of fanfic before you watched the series. Although in the early fandom, I read stories of people going to meetups having never watched the show just because they liked the people. I dont know if they are true but just the idea is kind of funny. To each their own!I think the mobile version of Google docs is more text friendly (example: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T_9 … ic?pli=1). You get this if you put mobilebasic instead of edit in the url. I actually set my browser to send a phones user agent sometimes and this makes a lot of websites load faster and text friendly!Oh, I havent checked if they are the same as yours but there are voice only audio of episodes here.P.S., Ill be away for a couple of weeks. Just a preemptive not dead note.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173855#p173855 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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This has nothing to do with the thread up to this point, but I just had to share! Last night, I had the strangest My Little Pony related dream, and woke up to write a bit of it, as I usually do. I have kept a dream journal for about 13 years now, and am to the point where I remember to write about almost all of my dreams. Apparently, my brain loves crack fanfic so much that its now generating it for me while I sleep. First, some background. I sleep with my laptop next to my bed, so often, when I am having trouble sleeping, or wake up in the middle of the night, I roll over, put my headphones on, and resume playing whatever I was listening to before I fell asleep. Recently, this has been the dragnet old time radio show. So, last night, I was wide awake...or thought I was..., rolled over, put on the headphones, and hit play. Only to hear:This is ECB, the equestrian broadcasting company. {the three dong dong dong chimes. First bar of t
he theme song.} Dragon net. Mayors and gentlestallions, the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names were changed to protect the Innocent. {more theme music.} Youre a detective Sargent. Youre assigned to robbery detail. A gang of ponies has been steeling baked goods. Evidence points to a well-oiled criminal organization. Your job: cook them. {final bars of theme music} It was Sunday July third. It was raining in ponyville and we were working the night watch in robbery detail. My partners Applebloom. The boss is princess Celestia. My names Scootaloo. We were on our way out of the office and it was 9:57 PM when we got to sugarcube corner. Unfortunately, that was all of the dream I bothered to write down at the time. I have vague memories involving Twilight Sparkle getting arrested, and Rainbow Dash fighting an army of eighteen Pegasus thieves, and...something about Scootaloos scooter bursting into flames after a b
ombing attempt because she was getting too close to the truth? Also, there was a marshmallow laser battling Pinkies party cannon in defence of poundcake at some point for...some reason. The only other thing I thought was important enough to write down was this:Starring Emma Stone as the voice of Scootaloo, Yeardley Smith as Applebloom, Kristin Chenoweth as Pinkie Pie, Sarah Silverman as Rainbow Dash, India Fisher as Rarity, Idina Menzel as Fluttershy, and Sarah Michelle Gellar as Twilight Sparkle. So, yeah. Apparently my brain can tell me the most epic story of utter epicness in the history of epic things, and all I really want to do when Im half asleep is dork out about voice actresses. Go, sleepy me! You win! LOLURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173748#p173748
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This has nothing to do with the thread up to this point, but I just had to share! Last night, I had the strangest My Little Pony related dream, and woke up to write a bit of it, as I usually do. I have kept a dream journal for about 13 years now, and am to the point where I remember to write about almost all of my dreams. Apparently, my brain loves crack fanfic so much that its now generating it for me while I sleep. First, some background. I sleep with my laptop next to my bed, so often, when I am having trouble sleeping, or wake up in the middle of the night, I roll over, put my headphones on, and resume playing whatever I was listening to before I fell asleep. Recently, this has been the dragnet old time radio show. So, last night, I was wide awake...or thought I was..., rolled over, put on the headphones, and hit play. Only to hear:This is EBC, the equestrian broadcasting company. {the three dong dong dong chimes. First bar of t
he theme song.} Dragon net. Mayors and gentlestallions, the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names were changed to protect the Innocent. {more theme music.} Youre a detective Sargent. Youre assigned to robbery detail. A gang of ponies has been steeling baked goods. Evidence points to a well-oiled criminal organization. Your job: cook them. {final bars of theme music} It was Sunday July third. It was raining in ponyville and we were working the night watch in robbery detail. My partners Applebloom. The boss is princess Celestia. My names Scootaloo. We were on our way out of the office and it was 9:57 PM when we got to sugarcube corner. Unfortunately, that was all of the dream I bothered to write down at the time. I have vague memories involving Twilight Sparkle getting arrested, and Rainbow Dash fighting an army of eighteen Pegasus thieves, and...something about Scootaloos scooter bursting into flames after a b
ombing attempt because she was getting too close to the truth? Also, there was a marshmallow laser battling Pinkies party cannon in defence of poundcake at some point for...some reason. The only other thing I thought was important enough to write down was this:Starring Emma Stone as the voice of Scootaloo, Yeardley Smith as Applebloom, Kristin Chenoweth as Pinkie Pie, Sarah Silverman as Rainbow Dash, India Fisher as Rarity, Idina Menzel as Fluttershy, and Sarah Michelle Gellar as Twilight Sparkle. So, yeah. Apparently my brain can tell me the most epic story of utter epicness in the history of epic things, and all I really want to do when Im half asleep is dork out about voice actresses. Go, sleepy me! You win! LOLURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173748#p173748
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This has nothing to do with the thread up to this point, but I just had to share! Last night, I had the strangest My Little Pony related dream, and woke up to write a bit of it, as I usually do. I have kept a dream journal for about 13 years now, and am to the point where I remember to write about almost all of my dreams. Apparently, my brain loves crack fanfic so much that its now generating it for me while I sleep. First, some background. I sleep with my laptop next to my bed, so often, when I am having trouble sleeping, or wake up in the middle of the night, I roll over, put my headphones on, and resume playing whatever I was listening to before I fell asleep. Recently, this has been the dragnet old time radio show. So, last night, I was wide awake...or thought I was..., rolled over, put on the headphones, and hit play. Only to hear:This is EBC, the equestrian broadcasting company. {the three dong dong dong chimes. First bar of t
he theme song.} Dragon net. Mayors and gentlestallions, the story you are about to hear is true. Only the names were changed to protect the Innocent. {more theme music.} Youre a detective Sargent. Youre assigned to robbery detail. A gang of ponies has been steeling baked goods. Evidence points to a well-oiled criminal organization. Your job: cook them. {final bars of theme music} It was Sunday July third. It was raining in ponyville and we were working the night watch in robbery detail. My partners Applebloom. The boss is princess Celestia. My names Scootaloo. We were on our way out of the office and it was 9:57 PM when we got to sugarcube corner. Unfortunately, that was all of the dream I bothered to write down at the time. I have vague memories involving Twilight Sparkle getting arrested, and Rainbow Dash fighting an army of eighteen Pegasus thieves, and...something about Scootaloos scooter bursting into flames after a b
ombing attempt because she was getting too close to the truth? Also, there was a marshmallow laser battling Pinkies party cannon in defence of poundcake at some point for...some reason. The only other thing I thought was important enough to write down was this:Starring Emma Stone as the voice of Scootaloo, Yeardley Smith as Applebloom, Kristin Chenoweth as Pinkie Pie, Sarah Silverman as Rainbow Dash, India Fisher as Rarity, Idina Menzel as Fluttershy, and Sarah Michelle Gellar as Twilight Sparkle. So, yeah. Apparently my brain can tell me the most epic story of utter epicness in the history of epic things, and all I really want to do when Im half asleep is dork out about voice actresses. Go, sleepy me! You win! LOLEdit: I lay in my bed again, because sometimes that helps me remember bits I forgot to write down. So...it turned out Twilight was the one steeling the baked goods, because she thought if she could only eat enou
gh blueberries, she would turn blue. No, I dont remember why she wanted to turn blue. But unfortunately Fluttershy caught her setting fire to Scootaloos scooter with her horn, and snitched. So Twilight kidnapped Poundcake and was holding him hostage in Sugarcube Corner to negotiate safe passage out of Equestria. She was also demanding 80 pounds of blueberries for the journey. And every time Scootaloo got too close, Twilight was taking pot shots at her with a magically powered marshmallow laser that she had somehow bolted onto her horn. I mean, like, with actual metal bolts. Based on the sounds, it apparently hurt. A lot. There were a lot more things, Im sure, and Im sure the bits Im forgetting made that all make more sense. Well, no. Im not. Why did I bother straining my brain trying to remember this in the first place? Gah!URL: http://forum.audiogames.
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,@fastfinge: lol! This is the third time Ive laughed today while browsing this forum. What an odd and in a weird way, awesome dream.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173752#p173752 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @fastfinge: Thats some seriously wicked dream and a great read.So apparently, other transcript, after S2 were there all along. Even goes up to the last episode. Were these added recently after your e-mail? Or did I just miss them??URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173765#p173765 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: They must have been added, or I also missed them. But I never heard anything back via email, so I dunno. But they exist, now! Yay! So I guess Ill finally watch the actual series. Seeing as apparently Im going to dream about it regardless.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173767#p173767 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with For those who want it, I converted all of the existing transcripts to plain text format, to make them easier to deal with. You can find them on sendspace here:https://www.sendspace.com/folder/kh6m1cNote that this is still uploading. The folder is like 3.65 GB, so it could take a while. Also included are vocal-only audio versions of each episode. Im currently watching MLP via netflix, so I have no idea if those are useful or not. Once my torrent finishes, Ill do real full-audio rips for everyone who doesnt need the video. But the torrent is going to take 3 weeks, so dont hold your breath. Unless someone can tell me how to easily rip the audio out of Netflix? I have send space pro, so that folder isnt going anywhere, and Ill keep it up to date. So feel free to share and enjoy. Now, back to my Marathon!URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173773#p173773 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,@fastfinge: Thats the thing, I dont really think Im missing anything as if I cant find transcripts, I just let my imagination fill in the gaps using sound design and music to help me.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173548#p173548 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with I keep forgetting to mention this here. My Litte Investigations, which is a fairly popular project was recently released and is fully voiced. Unfortunately the interface is custom made and entirely mouse driven. But since they used an open format for their files, its plausible to it turn into some kind of interactive fiction with the same resources. The moving around in this game isnt actually all that important.Heres the only playthrough I found that doesnt talk over the game audio (Youtube video). You can play this video up to 9 minutes in without spoiling anything (up to then, the game only involves clicking when a character stops talking to advance the dialogue).Last line before gameplay starts: Twilight: Dont worry Rarity, Ill get to the bottom of this before the other investigation team even gets here.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173568#p173568 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @aaron: But...all the stuff youre missing! How does it not make you twitchy?URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173478#p173478 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @fastfinge: Thats actually a really interesting setup. I cant think of a better way if you want to get everything. Now to see if theres some way to stir some interest in transcripts in the community...URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173507#p173507 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,If a show is half an hour Id usually just watch it and enjoy what I can from it, if theres a transcript, so much the better but I don think its necessary for stories and character dialog.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173411#p173411 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: No, I never got a reply. Interesting idea about having a narrator like DV, and Im sure some people would want that. Personally, I would rather read transcripts while listening to the original show than listen to the show with DV. Because in DV, the narrator only has 2 or 3 seconds where people arent talking to describe things. But in a transcript, the transcriber can be as descriptive as he wants: (On the second half of this, the clouds fade away and others slide out of view to expose the landscape. A town can be seen near a meandering stream, with a second one—made of clouds and rainbows—floating near it and higher than the peak of a nearby mountain. A city of white and gold projects from the nearly-vertical precipice. Zoom in on this, then cut to a pair of winged unicorns standing back to back on a cloud; the left one is white, with a pink mane and long tail, while the other is dark blue with a lighter blue mane/tail. Tilt up slowly.) There is just no way that DV could fit that huge chunk of description in between the first two spoken lines of the show. Though I might be more comfortable with this, because I have taken some television and film classes, so I am aware of the meanings of things like cut, pan, zoom, tilt, swipe, whip, etc. I can imagine that people who havent handled a camera might be a little lost in a screenplay or transcript.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173291#p173291 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with New episode day for the interested! (likely no transcript of any sort at the moment though...)@fastfinge: That exact thought crossed my mind! Transcripts would probably bug me because its not the characters voices but I dont know what your setup is (to have both the transcript and listen to the show at the same time). Its possibly also easier to find people to write transcripts (narrators would likely have had to read from a transcript anyway).A side remark: Someone sighted watching the show is likely to miss most of whats in that description or only be left with a vague impression of it. It just happens too fast. I mean the background music that we hear during those few second could be given an extensive description as well. Although some of the visuals are much more central. The central parts and ideas can probably be describe more briefly.Or maybe you could have different voices talking at differen t distances depending on how prominent it is? I wonder if itd be possible to get that to even work though. Even in the best case, wed still be funneling two sources of information (audio and visual) into a single one (audio only).This reminds me that I wanted to say something else about this background ponies phenomenon (TV Tropes article on the topic Warning: website that is potentially a huge time sink). If someone doesnt interact with the fan community, it is possible and Id say even very likely to watch the entire show without being able to distinguish between the background characters, much less have names for them. So to some extent, thats pretty equal footing or even a bit of an advantage for the one with the transcript (they are called by name there despite having unremarkable visuals). (Of course, theres the eventual problem when they point out th at such and such can be seen for half a second sitting awkwardly way over there in the background while some much more noticeable thing is happening in the foreground (I think Fluttershy running around in this case?).)URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173321#p173321 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: I put whatever I am watching on netflix via my Apple TV for the audio, and read the transcript on a braille display connected to my laptop. So when I want to do a close-reading of something in the transcript, I can use the apple TV remote to pause the show for a sec, and then easily unpause it. I generally pause for 10 or 15 seconds about once a minute. If the transcript is unclear about something, or I get curious about a particular thing (Where have I heard that voice before? Where was that scene filmed?) I will sometimes hit a wiki or fansite to look something up real quick, adding another 30 seconds or so on pause. A half hour show generally takes me from 45 minutes to an hour to listen to. When I watch a TV show with friends, I will usually listen to it my way beforehand if I know what were going to watch, or if I dont, Ill listen to it again myself later. I really, really dont see how multiple voices could work. I can listen to up to three voices speaking at once and understand them, but I find it extremely stressful. I dont know how well those transcripts do about not revealing information before the writers intended, because I havent watched the show yet, but I do agree that sometimes is a problem. But IMHO, as you can probably tell, I would far rather too much information than too little.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173340#p173340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,@fastfinge: Sorry to spoil your fun, but nope, Jesus hasnt really shown up in Equestria, not in the official cannon anyway.@kantorlot: I dont really mind spoilers. For me, it generates a bit of hype. I havent used IRC in a while, in fact there was a mIRC with some NVDA-based scripts for it but I frgot all the commands for it. Aah well, might have to dig it out.I like browsing Equestria Daily, but I think Ill stay away from ponychan.Thanks for the help so far, and the same can definitely be said for @darkabomination who has given me another place to try out too.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173198#p173198 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @aaron: I kind of assumed that, yeah. Thats why I avoid cannon; I have much more fun that way! LOL. By the way, can you link me to the mIRC with NVDA? All of the mIRC stuff I have requires Jaws or Window Eyes. These days I just use chatzilla, but a dedicated IRC program might be nice.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173218#p173218 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @aaron: I kind of assumed that, yeah. Thats another reason why I avoid cannon; I have much more fun that way! LOL. By the way, can you link me to the mIRC with NVDA? All of the mIRC stuff I have requires Jaws or Window Eyes. These days I just use chatzilla, but a dedicated IRC program might be nice.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173218#p173218 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,Unfortunately, I dont have the link on hand at the moment.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173223#p173223 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Ill finish this list first and then answer.4. The Round Stable Description: Forums created by members of the Something Awful website. Has a front page with news for the last two years. Offers an alternative perspective that also less focused on fan creations. It has rather eloquent creator and so attracted similar members. Eloquent doesnt mean already to the point though. Sometimes criticised for its stricter rules.Accessibility: Theres relatively heavy use of images in user profiles and signatures. Discussions have an average amount of emoticons, which while tagged by name, are not always used in their original context so it could get confusing. Some threads have large text walls so it may be better to start there. Some threads are heavy in linked images.Userbase: Smaller than the other places but still with many users, I believe.5. Sub reddit /r/mylittleponyDescription: A link aggregator, meaning that it contains a bunch of user submitted links to other sites that are sorted by user votes (in some sense). Sometimes considered an art dump by others due to the large number of images links to fan created drawings. Also a bit hard to socialise due to its format.Accessibility: Does have discussions sometimes, especially when new episodes airs. Its possible to comment on all the links. Comments sometimes contains emoticon images.Userbase: 63627 users with 186 active right now. Pretty nice moderators in my humble opinion although its mostly a hands-off site that runs on its own.6. Rainbow Dash NetworkDescription: A twitter-like socialising site (1000 character limit). Ive never used it so cant say much more.Accessibility: Seems pretty going, being more or less all text, except for picture.Userbase: There seems to be a good nu mber of users. However, it doesnt seem to be mentioned so prominently on other sites anymore. I dont know why.7. Derpy Hooves newsDescription: Perhaps the second biggest news site, although still not too well known I believe. It is also uncensored, although not prominently so (Equestria Daily doesnt feature articles unsafe for the young-uhns). Digs a bit deeper into rumours and stories.Accessibility: Nothing particularly noticeable for a news site (obviously pretty visual-heavy).Userbase: Being less popular, there are much fewer comments so its hard to tell except for the editorial team, which seems good to me.8. Equestria GamingDescription: Pony themed games and reviews. Still quite unknown I believe but might be a good place to find links to other things or projects. ( is not mentioned there; I havent tried submitting it.)Accessi bility: The site itself is like any news site but most games are pretty bad with accessibility I think.Userbase: Same are Derpy Hooves news. Few comments so its hard to tell.9. meDescript - Wait! Im not a website! But just wanted to answer about contact information at such. My e-mail iscantorlot at-sign derpymail dot org(I spelled it out to avoid spam but this makes it not possible to copy and paste.) I dont have a twitter account though. Unfortunately, I tend to reply rather slowly to e-mail because of lack of time. But go ahead and e-mail me anytime!Im avoiding Skype to keep my anonymity. Most fans are not this crazy though. So Im sure you can find a Skype group if you chat with them long enough. I feel voice gives away too much information, thats all (I didnt credit myself in-game).URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173236#p173236 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @aaron: Equestria Daily is perfect for that kind of thing then. I think the /r/mylittlepony subreddit tends to get these news a tad earlier though. But has the accessibility issue mentioned (though your could sift through titles and only look at self posts or posts with lots of comments). Oh and the show creators tweet teasers sometimes. Ill edit this post with their twitter account when I find them.I didnt realize IRC wasnt easy to setup, being more or less entirely text based. Quite honestly, Im not sure how much more a dedicated IRC client would do.@fastfinge: Thats for finding Jesus for me. Thats fixed now. Although the Wikipedia disambiguation page suggests that stigmata is also the plural of stigma? What? This is more confusing than I though. (The stigmata pa ge talked about wounds like you said.)And now you know I never commented on Equestria Daily. I know they changed their commenting system a few times. I guess its Intense Debate now. E-mail is probably the better choice here anyways. Did you get a reply?It may otherwise be possible to incite people to write them given the size of the fandom and the large number of fans looking to contribute but generally dont know how. Maybe even have a narrator to make like DV.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173252#p173252 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Ill preface this by saying that there are different things people discuss about this show. Theres talk about what happens in the show, of course, but theres also a lot of talk about the shows schedule and direction (when does the next season start or how many princesses will we end up with? are some examples) and also talk about the shows creators (what they are doing, when are they making appearances and such). Since youve already visited Equestria Daily, youre probably pretty aware of this, or at least the perspect that website projects, which is pretty widely shared.The other thing to note is that the fandom is fairly large which means there are many groups that form within it. Each with their own appeal and own rules. And yes, sometimes even some rivalry between them. But I think this is a good thing because it gives you more of a choice as to where you want to go. Ill list some of the places I know here but Im sure there many others. And, this is probably already obvious, but Im going to state the obvious a lot. Like right now. But thats because I dont know where youve been up to now.Ok, two more notes before I get down to the list. To answer your post in the other thread, Aaron, which I think these places are much nicer than the rest of the internet, I dont think they avoid misconceptions entirely. So if youve met people who thought that blind people cant use a computer, I think the truth is youll still meet them there. However, since they may be fending stigmata of their own, they may be more willing to listen once youve explained. But from the get go, I think its inevitable that a number of participants think that way.Finally, my opinion will obviously seep through my description so I wont try to hold back much. But just because I dont like some aspect of some site or other, it doesnt mean that you wont. And if joining them is what makes you happy and is what you were looking for, by all means do it! Im just one person with one opinion after all.Last thing before the list: Some of these places may also contain spoilers for future episode. I dont know if that kind of thing bothers you or not.List of pony places:1. Equestria Daily.Description: The most popular news site around. Shapes mainstream fandom opinions by its sheer popularity. Although, some people may be think that it tries too hard to make headlines and sound bites, and perhaps the lack of depth and sophistication in some cases.Accessibility: Discussions are mostly image free. Content is tagged which helps with searching for only accessible stuff. Except for fan fiction, it has a fairly strong bias for images and videos.Userbase: Being the majority of the fandom so to speak, I think it may be more difficult to pitch different ideas here.2. Canternet.Description: This is an IRC network formed by fans. Has quite a few large channels. Although Ive had very little contact, I think this might be a good choice to start just because people are somewhat forced to chat in text here. A lot of the other websites Ill mention in the list have a channel on here (such as #EquestriaDaily, #ponychan)Accessibility: I would think it is good if you have a good IRC client.Userbase: I havent been here often enough to know.Accessibility: Heavy use of images for emotes and images in signatures. Posts with images are allowed but not so frequent.3. PonychanD escription: An imageboard, which is said to have historically welcomed the exiles of 4chan who discovered the show (WARNING: Dont go to 4chan unless you know what youre getting yourself into. Ponychan by contrast is safe).Accessibility: I think the interface for the site itself is fairly accessible. But being an imageboard, thats a forum where each post can have an image displayed prominently alongside the text (or possibly no text at all) so obviously the informations from those images will be missed (they dont always have indicative filenames).Userbase: Having been there since the beginning, it has a fairly large number of users. Users and level of discourse vary greatly depending the board (a.k.a. subforum) you frequent. /pony/ is the main board for discussing the show but move very quickly (at least for me). So there may be far too many new posts that can be easily missed while your e typing. Or maybe not, I dont know.Sorry, spent to much time on the preface. Ill finish this list in a day or so. Other things I might talk about: The Round Stable, Derpy Hooves news, Reddit, game playing and making groups, myself. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173165#p173165 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Ill preface this by saying that there are different things people discuss about this show. Theres talk about what happens in the show, of course, but theres also a lot of talk about the shows schedule and direction (when does the next season start or how many princesses will we end up with? are some examples) and also talk about the shows creators (what they are doing, when are they making appearances and such). Since youve already visited Equestria Daily, youre probably pretty aware of this, or at least the perspect that website projects, which is pretty widely shared.The other thing to note is that the fandom is fairly large which means there are many groups that form within it. Each with their own appeal and own rules. And yes, sometimes even some rivalry between them. But I think this is a good thing because it gives you more of a choice as to where you want to go. Ill list some of the places I know here but Im sure there many others. And, this is probably already obvious, but Im going to state the obvious a lot. Like right now. But thats because I dont know where youve been up to now.Ok, two more notes before I get down to the list. To answer your post in the other thread, Aaron, which I think these places are much nicer than the rest of the internet, I dont think they avoid misconceptions entirely. So if youve met people who thought that blind people cant use a computer, I think the truth is youll still meet them there. However, since they may be fending stigmata of their own, they may be more willing to listen once youve explained. But from the get go, I think its inevitable that a number of participants think that way.Finally, my opinion will obviously seep through my description so I wont try to hold back much. But just because I dont like some aspect of some site or other, it doesnt mean that you wont. And if joining them is what makes you happy and is what you were looking for, by all means do it! Im just one person with one opinion after all.Last thing before the list: Some of these places may also contain spoilers for future episode. I dont know if that kind of thing bothers you or not.List of pony places:1. Equestria Daily.Description: The most popular news site around. Shapes mainstream fandom opinions by its sheer popularity. Although, some people may be think that it tries too hard to make headlines and sound bites, and perhaps the lack of depth and sophistication in some cases.Accessibility: Discussions are mostly image free. Content is tagged which helps with searching for only accessible stuff. Except for fan fiction, it has a fairly strong bias for images and videos.Userbase: Being the majority of the fandom so to speak, I think it may be more difficult to pitch different ideas here.2. Canternet.Description: This is an IRC network formed by fans. Has quite a few large channels. Although Ive had very little contact, I think this might be a good choice to start just because people are somewhat forced to chat in text here. A lot of the other websites Ill mention in the list have a channel on here (such as #EquestriaDaily, #ponychan)Accessibility: I would think it is good if you have a good IRC client.Userbase: I havent been here often enough to know.Accessibility: Heavy use of images for emotes and images in signatures. Posts with images are allowed but not so frequent.3. PonychanD escription: An imageboard, which is said to have historically welcomed the exiles of 4chan who discovered the show (WARNING: Dont go to 4chan unless you know what youre getting yourself into. Ponychan by contrast is safe).Accessibility: I think the interface for the site itself is fairly accessible. But being an imageboard, thats a forum where each post can have an image displayed prominently alongside the text (or possibly no text at all) so obviously the informations from those images will be missed (they dont always have indicative filenames). There is occasional dissent about rules, banning and board structure. Sometimes criticized for its hugboxing. Although, I was never active enough for these things to be noticeable to me.Userbase: Having been there since the beginning, it has a fairly large number of users. Users and level of discourse vary greatly depending the board (a.k.a. subforum) you frequent. /pony/ is the main board for discussing the show but move very quickly (at least for me). So there may be far too many new posts that can be easily missed while youre typing. Or maybe not, I dont know.Sorry, spent to much time on the preface. Ill finish this list in a day or so. Other things I might talk about: The Round Stable, Derpy Hooves news, Reddit, game playing and making groups, myself. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173165#p173165 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with @cantorlot: Just as a gentle FYI, in case you didnt know, you meant stigma, not stigmata. I know lots of people get those words confused, but they mean really different things; stigmata means the bloody wounds that some Christians claim to manifest miraculously, in the places where the nails pierced the hands and feet of Jesus when he was crucified. Stigma means a mark of shame. So unless the MLP fandom is stranger than I ever imagined, the word you want is stigma. Although, someone *did* write that Cupcakes fanfic, so a community devoted to pony crucifixion wouldnt really surprise me, unfortunately. Also, there is this:http://www.fimfiction.net/story/37680/f … with-jesusso apparently Fluttershy and Jesus do hang in the same circles. Actually, Jesus kind of shows up surprisingly often in Equestria:http://www.fimfiction.net/story/18724/1 … chapter-18Why on earth did I ever Google for this? Anyway, I had a point to posting, other than that nonsense. What was...oh yeah! Equestria Daily has some accessibility problems that might prevent you from participating: they use intense debate for there comments, and that system will often make you fill out a CAPTCHA before the comment will post, and WebVisum cant always solve it. I only discovered that this morning, when I went to comment on the post I linked to in the other topic with the transcripts, to ask if anyone was going to do the new seasons. If I can get transcripts up to s4, Ill probably just give up and watch the show already. So I just emailed the address listed in the file instead. Also, the links in the menu dont quite open right. For example, if you click community, the community links wont show up to NVDA as underneath the community link; you kind of have to go down a little bit and hunt for the new links. Also, clicking chat caused my Firefox to crash completely, so dont do that.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=173171#p173171 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Heya. Ive got a good forum group Im personally freinds with. So I can help you out. but itd be much easier if I had a contact like email or skype to discuss it with.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171387#p171387 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Hi,If you click the email link near my name, youll be able to send me a forum email which wll go to my email address.However, if youd like the actual address anyway, it is:jukesy1...@gmail.comURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171390#p171390 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with You could try:http://ponyville-trot.dreamwidth.org/Read, comment, and post. Everyone Ive interacted with in other DW communities has been really friendly thus far.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171338#p171338 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: help finding people to discuss something with Of course, if you really are having trouble finding a group, the other option is to start one, and then (using completely legitimate channels) ask people to participate. It could really just be that this is an underserved discussion topic. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=171340#p171340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com http://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
