Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics
johann;188628 Wrote: BTW, I have now a new Musical Fidelity DAC for test, the X-DACv8. First impression is a better sound than the X-DAC-v3 but I need to listen some more and then also try to AB test it. :) I'd be really interested how it compares with the Transporter. I have a V3 I use with my SB2, but the V8 also has USB inputs, which I read can be a better digital source than SPDIF - someone please correct me if that's wrong. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics
Nostromo;188701 Wrote: My guess is that it depends mainly on the room you put it in and on the amp. As for $100k speakers, ask the happy few who can afford them ;) But I would assume that for traditionnal speakers (monkey coffins), the law of diminishing returns jumps in at about $4K or $5K. But the Beolab 5 sure are weird and intriguing. Unfortunately, they're $16K :( He he.. Monkey coffins are really bad, but open monkey coffins are the dog's bollocks! -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
It sounds like the PC resamples everything to 48kHz, or does your DAC indicate otherwise? I'd like to do this comparison as well, but after nixing kmixer and using toslink from my cheap soundcard to my cheap DAC, which the Squeezebox usually feeds via coax s/pdif. Triode posted a plugin in the developers forum recently, which generates square waves and such. Maybe I can somehow feed the DAC into my Maudio external soundcard and measure something using the computer(?). Does anyone have advice on testing without a scope? At any rate, it was nice to read about your experience. Cheers. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
Phil Leigh;188623 Wrote: Hmmm...funny how break-in NEVER makes things sound worse... how do you mean 'never'? for example, brand new car has a life expectancy, say 250K Km. That same car, after being properly broken in, after 20 000 Km, has now a life expectancy of 230K Km. So, new was better :) :) :) -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter review at Audioholics
Nostromo;188695 Wrote: I don't know, I prefer investing in something that makes a real difference, like the speakers. Lots of people say this. Sure, it's dead easy to tell the difference between speakers, but I always find it's the source components that really affect my enjoyment of the sound (subject to the speakers being generally good enough, of course). I seem to be in a small minority, but I'm rarely uncomfortable with that :) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33368 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Arcam Alpha 5+, both into a Meridian 566 DAC). I would be interested if anyone has managed to make a PC a good digital source, but I suspect that the amount of EMI in a computer would probably make it impossible to get a good SPDIF output. One of the things I like about the SB3 is its taking all the important stuff (sound-wise) out of the computer. Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
That's interesting...the first few miles or so the car is breaking in...after that, it's breaking down :o) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! Please try it! Regards Joe Gueron Pat Farrell;188363 Wrote: Jitterbug wrote: As for connecting the SB3 directly to a power amp, it would be better (for audio quality and safety reasons) to use some type type of preamp. Many here use passive preamps which can be inexpensive. I beg to differ. There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain. And there have been many threads on direct connection of a SqueezeBox to an amp. With proper gain matching, there is no safety issue. You may need attenuators, Sean Adams pointed out some high quality and reasonably priced models. Audiophile passive preamps tend to be very pricey for what the do, which is nearly nothing by switching. To be direct. You do not _need_ a preamp when using a SqueezeBox or Transporter. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html -- jgueron jgueron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9483 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
jgueron wrote: I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain I connected the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in my wording. I also added a Benchmark DAC1 to the output of my SqueezeBox, and it was wonderful. But I still say that adding a box, such as a preamp, does not improve the signal. There are times, when specialized boxes such as room correction devices, can help change the signal in 'good' ways, but they are not improving the signal, just your listening experience. Please try it! I have not tried the Benchmark with my new Transporter. I'm happy with the Transporter. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
adamslim;188811 Wrote: Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Arcam Alpha 5+, both into a Meridian 566 DAC). I would be interested if anyone has managed to make a PC a good digital source, but I suspect that the amount of EMI in a computer would probably make it impossible to get a good SPDIF output. One of the things I like about the SB3 is its taking all the important stuff (sound-wise) out of the computer. Adam Well, the SB3 is a computer too... -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
Pat Farrell;188819 Wrote: jgueron wrote: I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain I connected the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! You are correct. I was a bit sloppy in my wording. I also added a Benchmark DAC1 to the output of my SqueezeBox, and it was wonderful. But I still say that adding a box, such as a preamp, does not improve the signal. There are times, when specialized boxes such as room correction devices, can help change the signal in 'good' ways, but they are not improving the signal, just your listening experience. Please try it! I have not tried the Benchmark with my new Transporter. I'm happy with the Transporter. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html A buffer, such as a pre-amp may well improve sound if it presents a lower impedance to the next stage (normally a power amp). A passive pre may instead degrade sound by makeing the audio signal dependent on the input impedance of the next stage. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00... -- ErikM ErikM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
If you have a good DAC you are wasting money with the mods, IMO, they made no difference in my system. The anolog mods do improve the sound but not as much as a good DAC. Stock SB with elpac into Lavry DAC10 or comparable will rival pretty much anything out there. If you want to spend more, get a Transporter. I liked it a little bit better than the Lavry. But I'm sure I wouldn't pass an ABX. As always: IMHO, YMMV, In My System and any other disclaimer that exists in the universe :-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bolder Cable Elpac Mods - First Impressions
ErikM;188827 Wrote: Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00... LOL - however actually I was wrong...after the initial euphoria of break-in there is the gradual descent into dissatisfaction (break-out?) -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33707 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
amcluesent;188356 Wrote: (hence the ferrite-core on the wire to suppress this) Actually, it suppresses EMI from coming _out_ of the box. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
seanadams;188843 Wrote: Actually, it suppresses EMI from coming _out_ of the box. Tee Hee, M. -- mudlark SB3CyrusDACXPreXvs260AKEFiQ7 cable Avondale server Kubuntu Edgy, linkstation for storage. DIY SB3 3A linear power supply. mudlark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7151 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
jgueron wrote: I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! Please try it! Ah, but strictly speaking, that's not adding anything to the audio chain - it's adding to the *digital* chain, and replacing part of the analogue chain. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
Here's a thought. Why is it that every audio designer/engineer that I've ever spoken to or read comments from has commented that their gear needs to burn/break in to sound it's best? These are guys like William Johnson ( Audio Research), Dan D'Aagostino ( Krell), Charley Hansen ( Ayre), etc.. These are guys who build some of the very best sounding gear on the market. I'll even go out on a limb to say that I'd tend to believe their ears and experience over what a bunch of armchair quarterbacks who most likley have never built or designed an audio component from scratch let alone some of the most highly regarded compenents of the last 30 years think. Just my $.02 worth -- ErikM ErikM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones
hi What I am looking for probably doesn't exist but i though i'd ask anyways. I have a pair of Grado SR-80's and old Sennheiser HD 495's What I am looking for is a new pair of noise cancelling headphones that sound as good as the Grado's (the best sound I have heard yet in headphones) , are as comfortable as the light weight Sennheisers, and are also noise cancelling. A tall order? -- mmg_fan mmg_fan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33748 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FLAC file size
thomsens;188706 Wrote: The sample CD I chose was Santana's Shaman. So I guess this fits in the busy category. For reference, the CD took up 519Mb for FLAC and it was only 138Mb for extreme MP3 VBR. That's a 3.75 x the disk space, which is amazing since the MP3 sounds great at that quality level. More precise terms than busy might be random or noisy. I believe totally random data would sound like white noise and compress negligibly or not at all. I suspect instrumentation or effects that more closely resemble white noise reduce the incidence of data patterns that would offer opportunities for any lossless algorithm to compress. -- abdomen abdomen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33712 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
So do all their amps sound the same before and/or after burn-in? :-) -- jmourik jmourik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7123 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
It seems that the general consensus is that solid state components definitely DO benefit from a warm-up AND break-in/burnin time. This is something that is measureable. As for speaker cables, from what i've read, the general consensus is that any perceived diffrence in quality after a break-in time is primarily placebo and/or simply due to your ears adapting to the cables. -- mmg_fan mmg_fan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
Hi Sean, Thank you for the informative reply regarding jitter in the Transporter. Given that so much attention is given to the jitter in the design of the Transporter and that the results measured by the Miller test aren't really relevant, then the results of the Hifi News review still begs the following questions: 1. What was the cause of the very noticeable difference between the streaming and DAC modes? Qouted directly from the review: In stand-alone DAC mode the Transporter sounded crisper and musically more insightful and involving, whereas via the network connection leading edges were fudged, tempos dragged and the sound became altogether less gripping. Why this should be I can only speculate on but the difference was plain to hear. 2. Why would there be such a remarkable difference in audio quality of the Transporter vs. the Townshend Audio TA565 CD player? Quoted directly from the review: The TA565 majors on being audio Windowlene, clarifying telling microdynamic and acoustic details which many other players smudge. As, indeed, does the Transporter. In fact the comparison was not unlike that between the Transporter in streaming and DAC modes. [...snip...] You could hear the difference in a split second,... -- Jaco Jaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
So when I put in a new set of speakers cables and they sound bright, grainey and lack bass, but after playing music through them for X hours and they don't sound that way anymore it's a placebo effect?? Because if the system still sounded like crap I'd return the cables... I only ask beause when I installed Cardas Golden reference speaker cables they sounded bright grainey and lacked bass.. after about 100 hours they don't sound that way, or rather the system doesn't sound that way... So I'm hearing things?? I guess this is an argument that can't be won. -- ErikM ErikM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
adamslim;188811 Wrote: Yeah there are soundcards that are meant to sound good. I bought an Audigy 2 hoping it would one of these, and, err, it wasn't. Turns out it upsamples everything to 96kHz internally. Whatever, it is worse as a digital source than a reasonable CD player (my old Arcam Alpha 5+, both into a Meridian 566 DAC). I would be interested if anyone has managed to make a PC a good digital source, but I suspect that the amount of EMI in a computer would probably make it impossible to get a good SPDIF output. One of the things I like about the SB3 is its taking all the important stuff (sound-wise) out of the computer. Adam Hello, i have managed to make my computer a good digital source (IMHO). I'm using a Marian Trace Pro soundcard - http://www.marian.de/en/products/trace_pro - which costs about $450 and has AES EBU digital outputs the go into a TACT RCS digital preamp. I find it slightly better than the Squeezebox, especially in the bass region. As for digital noise caused by the computer considered by some people as a hostile environment, not a trace. In your sentence the words suppose , probably and impossible show that your opinion is made before testing, probably influenced by your Audigy experience. If you can try a pro soundcard i think you will change your mind. If the idea of the soundcard inside the PC doesn't appeal to you, you still have the option of taking a pro USB or Firewire (better) soundcard. I love my Squeezebox but browsing the music collection is faster and easier in the PC and you avoid the little drawbacks of the SB: omitting some tracks, sometimes slow response. Best regards, Jean. -- zano65 zano65's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3906 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BEST sounding noise cancelling headphones
Might I suggest you have a peep over at www.head-fi.org They've got HEAPS and HEAPS of stuff in their forums on good cans. Instead of 'noise cancelling' have you considered 'Isolation' based cans? Ones that come to mind are made by: Etymotic Research Shure Ultimate Ears I own a pair of the Etymotic ER-6i's which I love to bits. I wear them on long-haul flights and I can even sleep with them in. They have the ability to block out up to 36db which is a lot more than some others, and they don't need batteries. The sound is superb, although not quite as full as my AudioTechnica ATH-A900's. Still, for the size they're superb and good value. Let us know how you get on! Cheers Rob -- Siriosys Siriosys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5154 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33748 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
mmg_fan;11 Wrote: It seems that the general consensus is that solid state components definitely DO benefit from a warm-up AND break-in/burnin time. This is something that is measureable. There is no such consensus. Suppose such a thing were true. In order to make an audible difference, the changes would have to be relatively large - in general, we can measure changes in the electrical characterstics of a circuit with far greater precision than we can hear the results of such changes in an audio chain. Countless physics experiments rely on incredibly precise measurements. All those experiments use electrical equipment, much of which is constructed in the lab using (good quality, naturally) off the shelf components. Such things as miniscule static charges, tiny little breaths of air, slight vibrations caused by distant traffic or someone walking three corridors away can affect the resuls of these experiments and must be dealt with. We're talking about *incredibly* tiny effects here. These experiments are often conducted in a hard vacuum and cooled to a few miliKelvin above absolute zero, because otherwise disturbances in the air and thermal noise would drown out the signal. And yet I have never once heard of anyone in such an experiment having a problem with changing electrical characterisitcs of a capacitor over time (I'll ask some of my colleagues, just to be sure). How odd - audiophiles must really have golden ears to be able to detect an effect so small it can't be measured in state of the art experiments. I guess those audiophiles had better seal their equipment in a vacuum chamber, because they must be disturbed by tiny air currents too. Exactly how they're going to hear anything in a liquid-helium cooled vacuum is a bit of a conundrum... anyone sense a business opportunity? ErikM Wrote: So when I put in a new set of speakers cables and they sound bright, grainey and lack bass, but after playing music through them for X hours and they don't sound that way anymore it's a placebo effect?? Yes. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
Jean, That card looks like it might be optimized for microphones or at least other balanced devices. Is there a way to get S/PDIF out to go to a DAC? -- Bob Bressler Bob Audio Note CDT-Two-Audio Note DAC5 + Slim Transporter-Spectral DMC-20-Kassai amp-Audio Note AN Es Bob Bressler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2217 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Review in Hi-Fi News (UK)
Jaco;12 Wrote: Hi Sean, Thank you for the informative reply regarding jitter in the Transporter. Given that so much attention is given to the jitter in the design of the Transporter and that the results measured by the Miller test aren't really relevant, then the results of the Hifi News review still begs the following questions: 1. What was the cause of the very noticeable difference between the streaming and DAC modes? Qouted directly from the review: In stand-alone DAC mode the Transporter sounded crisper and musically more insightful and involving, whereas via the network connection leading edges were fudged, tempos dragged and the sound became altogether less gripping. Why this should be I can only speculate on but the difference was plain to hear. 2. Why would there be such a remarkable difference in audio quality of the Transporter vs. the Townshend Audio TA565 CD player? Quoted directly from the review: The TA565 majors on being audio Windowlene, clarifying telling microdynamic and acoustic details which many other players smudge. As, indeed, does the Transporter. In fact the comparison was not unlike that between the Transporter in streaming and DAC modes. [...snip...] You could hear the difference in a split second,... Have you considered the possibility that it is complete nonsense? -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 vs PC as a source
Bob Bressler;188911 Wrote: Jean, That card looks like it might be optimized for microphones or at least other balanced devices. Is there a way to get S/PDIF out to go to a DAC? If you read the web page linked, it seems fairly obvious: Digital Output * XLR AES/EBU (balanced), galvanic isolated * Output voltage: 3,5 Vss (with 110 Ohm) * Samplerates: 28 kHz to 212 kHz (Single Wire Mode) So, No.. it only has AES/EBU output, not normal S/PDIF -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33724 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q: What exactly is break or burn in time?
Damn I think I'll just chuck my fancy wires and just rewire with some lamp cord and them freebie cables that came in the box... Hey Opie sure you ain't related to Julian Hirsh?? He could never hear any differences either, lol -- ErikM ErikM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7576 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33615 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
Robin Bowes;188857 Wrote: jgueron wrote: I disagree with Pat Farrell, when he says There can be no audio quality improvement in adding anything to the audio chain I conneted the SB3 to a DAC, the Benchmark DAC1, and the improvement in quality of sound was remarkable! Please try it! Ah, but strictly speaking, that's not adding anything to the audio chain - it's adding to the *digital* chain, and replacing part of the analogue chain. R. In that case, strictly speaking, you can only add things to the audio chain before the microphone and after the loudspeakers. It's not as if an electrical signal is sound. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
Seems that this upgrade (the new unswitched power outlet) was more significant for sound quality than I thought. The sound improvement has been fundamental. Of course, it could all be placebo, but then again, we might all be imaginary as well. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Power supply (technical)
P Floding;188928 Wrote: In that case, strictly speaking, you can only add things to the audio chain before the microphone and after the loudspeakers. It's not as if an electrical signal is sound. Robin was pointing out that you wouldn't be adding anything redundant, like sending analog to a receiver that does AD|DSP|DA. Adding a benchmark is completely different in that you still only have one digital to analog conversion. Also, its marketing material suggests any digital redundancy that might be added to the signal would be easily overcome. I thought RB made a valid and craftily worded point. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33669 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Today's upgrade
P Floding;188495 Wrote: Seems the jokes never end on this kind of sites. Are those testimonials fake? I hope so, at least... In this situation, the proper term is not fake but schill. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33562 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Little office/bedroom system
My little home office system is NAD C325BEE, Epos ESL-3, SB3 (no DAC), some kind of Rega flattish speaker wire. Enjoy it immensely! -- darrellcraig SB2(2),SB3(1),Linn Kairn, Linn LK 100, Musical Fidelity X-Ray v3, BW 802 S3, Epos ELS3, NAD 325BEE, Spica TC-50, etc. darrellcraig's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6840 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33584 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
