Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
zanash;274976 Wrote: firstly don't believe all you read on the interweb secondly do you trust your own ears ? if you don't then your in the wrong hobby ! conversely if you do, go out and try different cables for yourself ...most respectable dealers will loan you a set and if they don't go some place else ! some things that might be useful to know .. what sort of coathanger was used was it steel or copper .? how did they make an interconnect out of a coathanger ? what plugs did they use ? what did they insulate the coat hanger with ? how long were each set of cables ? there are hundreds of factors that can influence the sound not least the equipment and how it reacts to the electrical parameters of the various conductors . now that said any self respecting audiophile is not going to use monster cable as its performance is limited at best I also feel that this article sound anecdotal rather than actual but we have no way of knowing As previously stated you need to use your own ears to make up your mind rather than read dubious tests of with little or no validity...imo I second this, this article is stupidly argued, unscientific and omits any relevant details. While I believe that many cables have equal performance, and that some cable manufacturers should be accused of fraudulent practices, there is no way any audiophile I know could deny the importance of them (expensive or not, high performance or not). Spetz Anti-Cables are argued mainly through the lightness of their dielectric material, which is of extreme importance for conduction purposes, now, a Coat hanger? normally made of cheap steel and with black paint as dielectric... People are so eager to read stupid arguments that they believe without questioning them making them more stupid, turning a joke into a truth... and this lack of critical stance on everything is what precisely makes our world so [EMAIL PROTECTED] up. -- GuyDebord Reference3A RoyalMaster monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, ASR MiniBasis SQ preamp, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
This is a paradox! The people who didn't lose their shirt on high end cables have no hanger. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
Pale Blue Ego;274919 Wrote: Coat hanger? Try these: www.anticables.com Has anyone here experience of anticables? Are they as good as they seem, or it a question of inverse snake-oil (if not quite coat hanger league :o) -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
While I agree that audiophile cables are the most shameless kind of snake oil in this industry, and I would actually expect a coat hanger to make an acceptable speaker cable (low frequency, low-Z), I certainly would not say that all cables are BS. Just try using a coat hanger for s/pdif or analog video, or using a series of coat hangers to go a longer distance for audio at RCA line or even mic level. But... good cables need not be stupidly expensive. In fact I would expect a heck of a lot more RD has gone into that popular mass produced brand, and that anything beyond that would actually be hit or miss. Indeed I have on multiple occasions encountered some very pretty looking boutique cables with significant soldering, crimping, and fit errors that you would never find on a mass produced cable. Eg RCA cables with slightly melted dielectric leading to early stress failure, optical connectors that don't mate with the proper snap, hand-made speaker wire terminations that are not as sturdy as the ones crimped or molded-on with big machines, etc. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
I used a Cary 303/200 CD player, which has a coax. input, with an SB for a long time -- works really well. I think the Cary is a great value. -- rblnr rblnr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
Morris..antis are excellent..see my previous post.. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!
Perceived loudness of the human ear is not linear, but logarithmic. Thus a doubling of loudness (+3dB) is not heard as such. 1dB used to be considered the minimum step which a normal person would hear a difference, but later research found that actually there was a range from 1dB to 3dB where people could hear a difference. I used the term 'barely perceptible' deliberately to mean a little more than 'just perceptible' in order to try and cover the range of people above. In the end a 3dB change is perceived as a very small difference in volume, no matter how sensitive your hearing. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
seanadams;275014 Wrote: While I agree that audiophile cables are the most shameless kind of snake oil in this industry, and I would actually expect a coat hanger to make an acceptable speaker cable (low frequency, low-Z), I certainly would not say that all cables are BS. Just try using a coat hanger for s/pdif or analog video, or using a series of coat hangers to go a longer distance for audio at RCA line or even mic level. But... good cables need not be stupidly expensive. In fact I would expect a heck of a lot more RD has gone into that popular mass produced brand, and that anything beyond that would actually be hit or miss. Indeed I have on multiple occasions encountered some very pretty looking boutique cables with significant soldering, crimping, and fit errors that you would never find on a mass produced cable. Eg RCA cables with slightly melted dielectric leading to early stress failure, optical connectors that don't mate with the proper snap, hand-made speaker wire terminations that are not as sturdy as the ones crimped or molded-on with big machines, etc. Yes I actually look for quality connectors above all else in a cable. How the cable is terminated to the connector and how well the connector contacts the terminal are far more important than if the cable itself was blessed by some magic person waiving snake oil. I get my cables from these guys, http://www.bluejeanscable.com/. Decent prices for very well made product. -- m1abrams m1abrams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Hello all, my first post so please go easy on me! I have had my Squeezebox for many moons now but am looking to change my hi-fi setup. Having read the posts on this forum the idea of having active speakers with no amp appeals to me (simply because it means the hi-fi setup is neater with less kit), but I also want good quality for my money. Also, I can get a Cambridge Audio Azur 640 amp at a good price so that is something for me to consider. (Please dont suggest a different amp, it is this one or nothing, thanks). I guess a big part of this question is, at the price level I am at, are active speakers going to match the quality of passive plus amp. And the other question then is which speakers to people recommend the most (taking cost into consideration). I have been doing some searching and have listed my considerations in total cost order (taking into account amp and hi-fi stand) from low to high. Any comments are appreciated. Wharfedale Diamond 8.2 Pro Active Speakers. These are the same company as Quad, right? So are these are bargain? Audioengine 5 Active Speakers. Spoken about a lot on these forums. What is the quality like? Do they really buzz when not in use? Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 Passive speakers. Will these plus amp be better than 8.2 Active? Front firing bass port is useful as they will be fairly close to a wall. Monitor Audio BR2 Passive speakers. Slightly more expensive than 9.1s, worth it? Kef Q1 passive speakers. Again, slightly more expensive than 9.1s. Quad 11L Active Speakers. Spoken about on these forums. Are they worth the extra outlay? Are they considerably better than the 8.2s? My room is about 12 square, speakers fairly close to the rear wall but away from the sides. -- Squeeze Me Squeeze Me's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15841 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
Shredder;275073 Wrote: Morris..antis are excellent..see my previous post.. Sorry - missed that in the excitement over coat hangers :o) -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!
bigfool1956 wrote: In the end a 3dB change is perceived as a very small difference in volume, no matter how sensitive your hearing. As I said in my previous post, 3dB is not what I'd call a very small difference in volume. 10db is regarded as a doubling in loudness, so 3db would be a 30% increase loudness. Hardly very small. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
I've also gotten some decent and very inexpensive stuff from http://www.monoprice.com. I have a long RCA patch cable from my family room to the living room that I bought from them, and it drastically outperformed the cheap, thin one I had gotten somewhere (Radio Shack?) before. And yes, I can hear all you audiophiles cringing. I did say it sounded better, though. . . m1abrams;275079 Wrote: Yes I actually look for quality connectors above all else in a cable. How the cable is terminated to the connector and how well the connector contacts the terminal are far more important than if the cable itself was blessed by some magic person waiving snake oil. I get my cables from these guys, http://www.bluejeanscable.com/. Decent prices for very well made product. -- mrfantasy --Mike mrfantasy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear PSU in stock at Farnell (UK)
There is also stock here: http://www.whichpowersupply.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=wps-5-7_5LCategory_Code=09B Same unit. Can confirm it is a linear unit (will break your toe if you dropped it) it is stated as regulated. Please note that a regulated PSU can be either a switcher or a linear. Thanks -- Which_Power_Supply Which_Power_Supply's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21550 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turn Me Up!
Google around and you will find this explanation, in various wordings around the net. A change of 1dB(A) is the smallest difference one can hear within an acoustically controlled environment A change of 3dB(A) is a just noticeable change in level difference in an external environment A change of 5dB(A) is a clearly noticeable difference in level A change of 10dB(A) is heard as a doubling in loudness of the noise I liked this wording the best, even though it came from an article about the noise effects of windmills !!! Nice thing about the web, is it can be used to back up things you knew from reading real books before the web was created - yep I am that old, and I even built a set of Gilbert Briggs speakers from his book :))) Back to the main point however, does anybody really think 3dB is enough headroom for real music? No, I thought not. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43045 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] This is torture
dagordon;273324 Wrote: In the process of a major system upgrade, and picked up a Jeff Rowland Concentra II and a pair of ProAc Response D25s. My Transporter arrives on Monday. With my SB3 this sounds fairly heavenly, I really can't wait to hear what it sounds like with the Transporter. I might have to try to intercept this thing as it makes its way across the country... TP must be better since no reply yet ... :) -- PBA Transporter*Dual Connect*Thorhauge Tube Integrated*Dual Connect*Magnepan PBA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15836 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43918 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Is this a destination or a path? If you want something that is neat and you'll leave it for many years, go for the active setup. If, however, you anticipate upgrading every couple of years, then passive gives you more options. Secondly, it is easy to argue for the theoretical advantage of active speakers, but it is quite straightforward to mess up a simple active system, so it really all depends on the specific system. Thirdly, speakers are a very personal choice, so ignore anything anyone tells you, as they'll normally just be recommending what they use. Fourthly, if you can get something for a decent price then what's to lose? You can flog it on ebay if you don't like it, and it costs you little or nothing. Best way to get going IMO. With reference to my third rule, I use Wharfedale 9.1s in my computer system and they're fine, good value. You pick three other manufacturers below that which are not favourites for me. Wharfedales are decent value and easy to move on when you come to upgrade, what's not to like? Get the credit card out and start listening to some tunes! :) Oh and I've heard nothing but good things about that amp. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: Bolder Cable Modified Elpac Power Supply for SB
Now $80, again shipping included. -- dagordon dagordon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6804 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44036 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
GuyDebord;274988 Wrote: there is no way any audiophile I know could deny the importance of them (expensive or not, high performance or not). Now you know of one. Cables are totally irrelevant to audio performance so long as they meet certain basic performance requirements. You can buy cables in that category for a few dollars a foot (monoprice is a good source, or bluejeans). That fact has been born out in countless controlled listening tests. Furthermore we understand electrical circuits rather well, which allows us to predict the difference between cables based on their parameters, and we also know (at least roughly) what the thresholds of human hearing are. Putting that basic knowledge together shows that expensive cables are totally unnecessary, and that the differences people report are psychological rather than audible. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
improvisato;274926 Wrote: That said, I'm sure during my audition with the 352, there was some perceived value when jumping from the 50watt receiver to the 352. I -wanted- to hear the difference. And I did. The 352 offered a much deeper, more well-rounded sound over the 50watt. Well, that's all that matters - this is about your enjoyment and your hearing. Congrats on making a choice you'll be happy with! -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Thanks for the response, very useful. I can't say I will never want to upgrade, but I am certainly thinking of the long term, something I can keep and like for a long time. -- Squeeze Me Squeeze Me's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15841 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
opaqueice;275219 Wrote: Now you know of one. Two. The article was great fun. The outraged reactions are also fun. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB-3 and external DAC
Anybody listen to an Audio Note 2.1 DAC from SB3? I've modded my SB3 with the KE DAC, National LM4562 Opamp and a Welborne PS. It amazingly clean but still missing the imaging I continually seek. Audio Note offers this DAC in kit form. For $500 the Paradisea+ DAC looks pretty nice. I go back and forth between furthering the mods of my SB3 or looking for an outboard DAC. At this point everything that I've in between the signal path of the SB3 to Nuforce 9SEV2 has been to the detriment. -- NoFlyZone NoFlyZone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB-3 and external DAC
NoFlyZone;275236 Wrote: Anybody listen to an Audio Note 2.1 DAC from SB3? I've modded my SB3 with the KE DAC, National LM4562 Opamp and a Welborne PS. It amazingly clean but still missing the imaging I continually seek. Audio Note offers this DAC in kit form. For $500 the Paradisea+ DAC looks pretty nice. I go back and forth between furthering the mods of my SB3 or looking for an outboard DAC. At this point everything that I've in between the signal path of the SB3 to Nuforce 9SEV2 has been to the detriment. Imaging is primarily function of speakers (their mid and high component), room, the seating position and speaker placement. This is where the bigest bang for the money is. Magnepans will 'image' with stock SB3 playing 32 Kbps stream. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17948 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
opaqueice wrote: GuyDebord;274988 Wrote: there is no way any audiophile I know could deny the importance of them (expensive or not, high performance or not). Now you know of one. Cables are totally irrelevant to audio performance so long as they meet certain basic performance requirements. You keep saying this, this time about cables but you regularly trot this out about amps. The point is that not all cables/amps *do* meet those basic performance requirements, so the conditional clause in your statement is highly significant. It is therefore meaningless, and verging on ridiculous to make such statements making out that all cables (or amps) are the same. I actually agree with your basic premise, but you keep saying it in a rather silly way. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.
Haraldo, any updates on the Lipinski's? -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42808 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.
rydenfan;275244 Wrote: Haraldo, any updates on the Lipinski's? Hey, Thanks for asking :-D Yeah, I've been in touch with the guys some more, but I'm moving slowly right now, I don't think I'll buy another pair of speakers right now. I already own two very well performing sets that I just can't sell I'll just have to wait a bit with that, won't rule out that I'll buy a pair L-505 though I'm thinking DSP and room correction first, and then subwoofers, and I don't think the Lipinski sub's are right for me because I want smaller drivers than the 15 that's provided for in the lipinski sub. regards Harald N -- haraldo Suse Linux Enterprise Desktop / SC7 - SB3 - Benchmark DAC1 - Krell KAV400xi - Meadowlark Kestrel2 / Duntech PCL-15 Everything is difficult before it's easy haraldo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13472 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42808 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
Hi, I just upgraded to the official release of squeeze center 7.0 today (firmware 36). I had been running 7.0 f40 prior to upgrade without any problems other than not being able to use the digital input except through the firmware. I now have no output/no music from the Transporter. Squeeze center on computer is running and shows music playing, amps are on, TP shows conection to internet radio and stream or library music playing, but no output and no music. Volume is not muted. I don't know what else to check and why there is no music coming out of my speakers? Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
Read the bold bit in the first post on this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42960 -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
mr_bill;275262 Wrote: Hi, I just upgraded to the official release of squeeze center 7.0 today (firmware 36). I had been running 7.0 f40 prior to upgrade without any problems other than not being able to use the digital input except through the firmware. I now have no output/no music from the Transporter. Squeeze center on computer is running and shows music playing, amps are on, TP shows conection to internet radio and stream or library music playing, but no output and no music. Volume is not muted. I don't know what else to check and why there is no music coming out of my speakers? Bill I think you have to reset the xlinx when downgrading the FW. Try the reset - while plugging the unit to power, hold the 1 key on the remote. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] We Sell Macbook Air 80gb At 700usd, pioneer Cdj 1000mk3 At 700usd, nokia N95 8gb At 350
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
adamslim;275210 Wrote: Secondly, it is easy to argue for the theoretical advantage of active speakers, but it is quite straightforward to mess up a simple active system, so it really all depends on the specific system. Just oe question, what exactly do you mean when you say it is straightforward to mess up an active system. Surely you just plug in your source (Squeezebox) and are good to go? -- Squeeze Me Squeeze Me's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15841 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
haunyack and radish, (sounds like salad dressing!) I'll give that a try - xilinx reset. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
opaqueice;275219 Wrote: Now you know of one. Cables are totally irrelevant to audio performance so long as they meet certain basic performance requirements. You can buy cables in that category for a few dollars a foot (monoprice is a good source, or bluejeans). That fact has been born out in countless controlled listening tests. Furthermore we understand electrical circuits rather well, which allows us to predict the difference between cables based on their parameters, and we also know (at least roughly) what the thresholds of human hearing are. Putting that basic knowledge together shows that expensive cables are totally unnecessary, and that the differences people report are psychological rather than audible. I normally support your skepticism but this time you are turning your argument into one of those that claim accuracy without showing it, your argument is like measurement data, irrelevant to my ears, however, this time its totally unfounded and non scientific which makes it even more worthless and with this you tell a lot of your insecurities and most importantly that you care about cables. I dont understand your necessity of playing cool in this forum, it totally nullifies your stance. -- GuyDebord Reference3A RoyalMaster monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, ASR MiniBasis SQ preamp, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
These posts have got me thinking. Now I'll have to drag my feels like ~100lb computer downstairs and see how my SB3 sounds going through my SB Audigy 4 setup. Hum, SB3 to SB4.. This Cirrus Logic CS4398Â DAC upsamples to 192KHz with a S/N ratio of something like 120DB. -- NoFlyZone NoFlyZone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear PSU in stock at Farnell (UK)
I'm on my second PSU from Farnell: http://cpc.farnell.com/PW00187/batteries-power-supplies/product.us0?sku=UNBRANDED-AD-05150R_requestid=142966 The first one was duff from the word go; SB kept shutting down. The replacement has lasted about 2 months: a few days ago the SB display started flickering badly, then the unit kept restarting after a minute or so of playing. So I've gone back to the wall wart - display now OK, and the unit plays for hours. To be totally honest, I can't actually discern any audible difference between the wall wart and the (working) linear. So I'm not bothering with a replacement from Farnell. But - I may have just been unlucky with the PSUs I got. I know others here use them successfully . . . . -- morris_minor morris_minor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21550 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.
Not much to add here as this is such a subjective question. I'll be asking the same as my current setup is laughable. NuForce 9's SE V2 running into Def Tech BP2000's using my Modded SB3. OK laugh. Still, it sounds great and from the great number of auditions I've been through trying to sort out the speakers with the associated electronics - and for ~$10K, Vandersteen would probably top the list. I really liked the pair of Wilson Sophia's for pulling the disappearing act.. For myself, I'm might build a pair of Line Arrays from either GR-Reasearch or Selah audio for 1/4 the price! -- NoFlyZone NoFlyZone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42808 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Deathmatch: Monster Cables vs. A Coat Hanger!
Robin Bowes;275248 Wrote: The point is that not all cables/amps *do* meet those basic performance requirements, so the conditional clause in your statement is highly significant. It is therefore meaningless, and verging on ridiculous to make such statements making out that all cables (or amps) are the same. If you can buy cables for $s/foot which meet those minimum requirements (and you can, easily), my statement is quite meaningful and quite important (since all audiophile cables sell for far, far more than that). The real problem is that the debate has become politicized, I suppose because cable manufacturers are for-profit, and because of the pride and status-consciousness of their customers. That makes it hard to have a calm and reasoned discussion, but regardless the facts are the facts. GuyDebord;275299 Wrote: I normally support your skepticism but this time you are turning your argument into one of those that claim accuracy without showing it, your argument is like measurement data, irrelevant to my ears, however, this time its totally unfounded and non scientific which makes it even more worthless and with this you tell a lot of your insecurities and most importantly that you care about cables. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Most of my cables are from Radio Shack, although I do have an old pair of Monsters and some bluejeans and monoprices as well. I care about cables in so far as they matter (not much) and as a fascinating economic/sociological phenomenon. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44124 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies
Difficult to say, I would imagine, but now that Squeeze Center 7.0 has been officially released, and idea when fw 40 will be rolled out? Or I guess, it might be fw 41 as a few folks have reported bugs. -- DCtoDaylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42960 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Q:Best BUDGET power or integrated AMP (under$1000)
OK. Kind of confused. It seems like NAD has taken the product page for the C352 amp off their website. Here's the link I had bookmarked: http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi-amplifiers/C352-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier In its place is what appears to be a new integrated amp: the C355BEE. http://nadelectronics.com/products/hifi_amplifiers/C355BEE-Stereo-Integrated-Amplifier/ Based on my read of the product overview, it sounds like the C355BEE is the latest rendition of the 352. During a recent product audition, my sales rep verified that the 352 was not going to be replaced anytime soon. It sounds like I was almost duped? -- improvisato improvisato's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31843 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New transporter firmware (v.40) in nightlies
haunyack;274962 Wrote: Any news as to when FW 40 ready for official release with 7.0? . No answer as of yet. Here's the thread - http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44144 -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42960 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter - upgraded squeeze center today - no output
It worked - thanks boys! -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44184 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linear PSU in stock at Farnell (UK)
My Farnell PSU gave up the ghost after about a year too. I replaced it with a Transporter. :-) MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21550 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
