Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
lots of people have cured ground loops with single ended xlr (and many haven't either!). according to jensen transformers it may have to do with the construction of the cable and they say a properly constructed cable can have a pretty dramatic effect on hum (see fig. 2.1) http://www.jensentransformers.com/an/an003.pdf anyways it's a cheap fix if it works which is why i want to try it. as for single ended vs. fully balanced i'm not even going to touch that controversy. -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!
GuyDebord;311958 Wrote: > I still think no snake oil is purer than the sleek offers of geoff > kate's: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ > > this ethernet cable is space cake compared to what this guy sells, and > he apparently sells a lot!! Im surprised no one has put him inside > bars!! Nice find. He can improve your sound quality over the phone lines. Even if your system is turned off. It the Machina Dynamica's Teleportation Tweak $60. This is great reading. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
ratso wrote: > oops left that out of original thread. i have a ground loop hum Using an XLR to RCA cable is not going to address that at all. Balanced all the way may, but RCA is unbalenced, and can lead to ground loops. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
ratso wrote: > you guys have never let me down before so i will ask you. i am having a > set of blue jeans cables xlr to rca cables made to go from my > transporter to my preamp. blue jeans was asking what pinout i need? I just checked the usual documentation and don't see the answer to the only important question for XLR, is pin 2 hot? So we'll have to have Sean or someone more knowledgeable than me answer your specific question. But why do a XLR to RCA conversion when there are RCA connectors right there to use? You lose the benefit of being balanced when you change to RCA. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
sadly most preamps including mine aren't balanced. -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
The XLR output on the transporter is the common industry standard. Unless there is something funky about the balanced input on your pre-amp you shouldn't need anything special. Edit: Oh, wait, the BC-21 you list in your sig doesn't have balanced. You won't get anything fixed by using the XLR outputs on the TP. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
oops left that out of original thread. i have a ground loop hum -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
Why not just use the RCA outputs that already exist? -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ground Loop and Transporter
i have never had my transporter 'play nice' with ANY preamp i have used. i always get a hum when i add in a pre. it disappears when i go straight into my amps. -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40112 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] xlr pinout?
you guys have never let me down before so i will ask you. i am having a set of blue jeans cables xlr to rca cables made to go from my transporter to my preamp. blue jeans was asking what pinout i need? thanx, ratso -- ratso Martin Logan Vantages - Wyred for Sound SX-1000 monoblocks - Blue Circle BC-21 preamp - Slim Devices Transporter - APC H10 power conditioner - Cables by Me! ratso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11493 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48882 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
Please note that my HeadRoom Balanced Home has a built-in dac (I don't know about the quality of the dac but I believe it's quite a good dac). Thank you for your advice. Since the Transporter is a bit more expensive. I would try to ask some advice about "Emu 1212m pci" sound card http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&subcategory=491&product=9872&nav=features and "Lynx L22" sound card http://lynxtwo.com/lynxl22.html . I believe I would be able to connect the Lynx L22 to my HeadRoom Balanced amp via XLR (balanced). I am not sure if that would be possible with the Emu 1212m (though I can read it has balanced outputs - not XLR but RCA I believe). -- alexdemaet alexdemaet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
alexdemaet;312002 Wrote: > Please note, this is my first time on this forum. > Sorry but I haven't figured out yet what "sb3" means. Is it an > amplifier, Creative sound card? > I would be very interested to upgrade my pc to a very decent music > server. > I have upgraded everything, except my source. If anyone could give me > some advice/tips on how to upgrade my pc? No need to upgrade, if you want XLR, just get a Transporter, as easy as that! by the way, SB3 means "squeeze box 3" the number 3 refers to the version, which is the latest. an SB3 or Duet dont give you the balanced option... -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon & Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Basis Exclusive phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (ASR), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) & v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
Please note, this is my first time on this forum. Sorry but I haven't figured out yet what "sb3" means. Is it an amplifier, Creative sound card? I would be very interested to upgrade my pc to a very decent music server. I have upgraded everything, except my source. If anyone could give me some advice/tips on how to upgrade my pc? I would really appreciate it. I would like to use my desktop pc as a balanced source (if possible). This means that I would like to connect my pc via XLR to my Headroom Balanced Home (headphone) amplifier (this amp can also be used as a preamp). I have some decent audio parts: Headphone Inventory: 2x AKG K-1000 Stefan AudioArt hard-wired, recabled Headphile Grado GS-1000, balanced recabled Headphile UltraSone Ed 9 (wts), balanced Alo Audio Grado sr225 Headphone Amp Inventory: preamp/amp: Headroom Home Balanced; Akg K1000 speaker amp: Red Wine Audio Signature 30.2; amp: Yamamoto HA-02 (sold); A/V receiver: Harman/Kardon AVR147 (dolby headphone); portable amp: Meier Corda Move, Alo Vcap Source Inventory: iMod, Creative X-fi desktop pc -- alexdemaet alexdemaet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18158 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!
killie99;311528 Wrote: > I truly believe I have now seen everything. This has to be the snake oil > of all snake oils .. > > http://www.avland.co.uk/denon/akdl1/akdl1.htm I still think no snake oil is purer than the sleek offers of geoff kate's: http://www.machinadynamica.com/ this ethernet cable is space cake compared to what this guy sells, and he apparently sells a lot!! -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon & Lyra Helikon SL, ASR Basis Exclusive phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRÂs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (ASR), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) & v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does the Transporter outperform SACD (2ch)?
I think everything is converted to basically single bit DSDish quasi Delta-Sigma format by the AKM and just about any other non-R2R ladder based DAC on the market these days. This seems to be the modern approach. D/A conversion of such 1 bit non PCM streams has some linearity advantages over the older and sometimes preferred approaches of the earlier DACs (venerable BB PCM1704 and other much more expensive chips).There are trade-offs as well. Numerous posts have been on this subject to learn much more. So when we listen to PCM sources through most modern chips, we are really listening through a streaming quai 1-bit conversion anyways through the SB and TP. -- jt25741 SB3->AR Masters Coax -> PS Audio DLIII (Cullen L3) -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio P-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference XLR -> Sim Audio W-5 -> Cardas Golden Reference Hi-Mid,PS Audio Xstream Plus Low-> Magnepan 3.6R jt25741's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8645 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48748 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] roll up! roll up! Get y our £350 network patch cable here!
honestguv wrote: > It seems baffling to me given the Denon brand image. I am not in > marketing but I would expect a product like this to devalue the Denon > brand far more than it will ever earn despite a presumably enormous > profit margin. And once the brand image has gone it will take years to > rebuild. Am I missing something? Lots of companies have done this over time. The business school term is cash cow. They were making 20% markup on stuff, on this they make 3000% markup. Quarterly numbers look great, managers get bonuses, and leave. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!
honestguv;311882 Wrote: > How strange. This does appear to be a real Denon product and is listed > on the Denon website. > > Am I missing something? Yes, its called corporate GREED! -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Bedroom: SB3, NAD C370, Thiel 2.3 Home Office: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, VSM-1 Sigs Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: roll up! roll up! Get your �350 network patch cable here!
How strange. This does appear to be a real Denon product and is listed on the Denon website. It seems baffling to me given the Denon brand image. I am not in marketing but I would expect a product like this to devalue the Denon brand far more than it will ever earn despite a presumably enormous profit margin. And once the brand image has gone it will take years to rebuild. Am I missing something? -- honestguv honestguv's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48834 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
sikahr;311808 Wrote: > Listen music, hear something's wrong, start testing. > > Peace, Nenad Yes...but what music - it must have been something very specific? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...
harmonic;311804 Wrote: > Ever since people read that the sb3 and transporter are Bit perfect, > and that the transporter has the MIRACLE dac and a sound that will > supass even the most excotic cd player a mob of slim fanatics was born. We all have subconscious prejudice about certain brands, don't we harmonic? Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz -> Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) -> PMC AB-1 Dell laptop -> JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311801 Wrote: > Oooh that's nasty - especially if they both decided to boost!Exactly, but > maybe one good thing about the loudness wars is you don't find that much anymore. The sad thing is that this "bug" was done on purpose. Plus the fact that peak clipping values aren't used. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Phil Leigh;311802 Wrote: > That's a shame. Can you explain how you first noticed this problem? Listen music, hear something's wrong, start testing. Peace, Nenad -- sikahr sikahr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14065 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is there a way to eek out a little more detail...
Ever since people read that the sb3 and transporter are Bit perfect, and that the transporter has the MIRACLE dac and a sound that will supass even the most excotic cd player a mob of slim fanatics was born. -- harmonic harmonic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6879 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
sikahr;311601 Wrote: > Unfortunatrelly, I don't have original rip (six months passed), but I > have wav (normalised to -45db) decoded from mp3 on PC. Compare this wav > to mp3: > http://www.driveway.com/u2b8k4z9t6 > > Peace, Nenad That's a shame. Can you explain how you first noticed this problem? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Posible bug in built-in MP3 decoder - please verify
Nonreality;311689 Wrote: > Actually I wasn't talking about you in that post. I would hate for one > program to make me have to convert all my mp3's to flac, it's simple > but a hassle. But like you said it doesn't affect me. The replay gain > problem is if you happen to have had Itunes do it's soundcheck (which I > was using for my 2 Ipods) then for some unknown reason they decided that > the sb should add track gain and soundcheck together. So if you have a > track replaygain of -8dB's it will now be somewhere around -16 dBs. > Gets pretty quiet if your listening to various tracks with smartgain > going. The fix is to not use any track gain or delete all the > soundcheck tags. Oooh that's nasty - especially if they both decided to boost! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber & Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40409 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
