Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
Mike Meyer;319009 Wrote: Hopefully Sean does too. :)Hopefully Sean has a wife and kids that have big problems with DVD's. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Question for Sean
StigErik;316883 Wrote: Using very long high-capsaitance cables may be a much bigger problem. If the distances are getting long then you should use the balanced outputs. Balanced outputs are made for running long cables. This is why these types of in- and outputs are used in professional audio gear. Using a Y cable is no problem. A Y-cable will simply parallel the inputs. Typically outputs have low impedance and inputs have high (or higher) impedances. A decent constructed output stage is capable of driving many input stages in parallel. I havent seen the schematics of the Transporters balanced output stage but I guess it shouldnt be a problem. The specs say they are 100 ohms, which is okay. Anyway, there is no risk in trying. Personally, I would go for the balanced in- and output if you have them on your system. Another advantage of using balanced is that you can avoid ground loops. -- Pascal Hibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49460 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Pale Blue Ego;319096 Wrote: The 384 RAM was destroying the sound. Your 128-MB stick of RAM was out of balance with the 256-MB stick. Always use balanced pairs of RAM in a music server. First rule of computer audio. A pity that my NAS has only unbalanced RAM :-) Teus -- Teus de Jong Teus de Jong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15415 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
I knew there was a explanation. :) -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Only possible explanation that I can think of is how much 'trash' the CPU of the server machine puts onto the mains. If you want to try out this theory, swap the PSU's over and see if you still notice the same effect. -- Nuuk Nuuk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4844 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
It is possible that you settings are slightly different on your new install. Perhaps you how have automatic volume turned on ? (which would make music play back louder and therefore sound better) Or maybe you accidentally had bitrate limiting turned on before ? -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
Hi - I have been using a squeezebox for a few months with a wifi connection to my home computer. I am now thinking of going down the dedicated server route. We are about to install wood floors in lounge and hall so I have the opportunity to stick a server in the understairs cupboard and run a cable under the new floor straight to the hifi area. My questions are: Would a hard wire connection be better than wifi (or at least give me a second option when the wifi is down)? If I do this what is the best value cable (optimum sound quality for reasonable price) and any suggestions for suppliers? I would be looking at about 8 metres of cabling - would this affect sound quality? Sorry for all these questions but I love music and am not very technical. Will be off line for a few hours now but will log in later on.# Best wishes Willie B -- Willie B Willie B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4562 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
Willie B;319132 Wrote: Hi - I have been using a squeezebox for a few months with a wifi connection to my home computer. I am now thinking of going down the dedicated server route. We are about to install wood floors in lounge and hall so I have the opportunity to stick a server in the understairs cupboard and run a cable under the new floor straight to the hifi area. My questions are: Would a hard wire connection be better than wifi (or at least give me a second option when the wifi is down)? If I do this what is the best value cable (optimum sound quality for reasonable price) and any suggestions for suppliers? I would be looking at about 8 metres of cabling - would this affect sound quality? Sorry for all these questions but I love music and am not very technical. Will be off line for a few hours now but will log in later on.# Best wishes Willie B Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't Type of ethernet cable makes NO difference to sound quality Wired is more reliable than wireless and performs better (nothing to do with sound quality) as a computer networking method. If you have the choice, go wired. IMHO wireless should ONLY be used where it is the only practical option... However if you are streaming mp3 or using internet radio then wireless can usually be made to work OK provided you have a decent WAP/Router and you are not too far away from it. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
I think it depends on the type of equipment. IMO there is no excuse for sources or amps to be anything other than accurate. To deviate from accuracy is to reduce the application of that source or amp to systems which complement that deviation. I don't understand why any designer would do that. Actually I do - couple a real difference from the crowd (although inaccurate) with subconscious bias or expectation and you can convince enough people your source or amp blows away the competitors. In fact, any source or amp (amp operating within designed load constraints) worth its salt won't sound all that different from others worth their salt. This is because sources and amps carry just electrical signals - straight wire with gain is the very valid target. I think we've seen the convergence in SQ of decent digital sources in recent years - more and more people struggle to tell between them. When it comes to speakers that's another matter. Each speaker and each room interacts differently. The game is much more complex than just an electrical signal, so there is no perfect loudspeaker and no universal definition of accuracy. Some aspects of accuracy remain (distortion, frequency extension etc) but everything else depends so much on the room. And taste. Also design compromises are necessary between performance characteristics using current techniques e.g. bass extension vs speed. Taste again. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
It is not possible to switch PSU. They are completely different. I have checked my settings on the new server but they are completely the same. And I would be surprised if they where not since SC was copied from the old to the new one. The funny ting is that my wife didn't know I had switch servers and she had noticed the same thing. -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
I dont think Sean has time to watch movies.. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Kuben72;319144 Wrote: The funny ting is that my wife didn't know I had switch servers and she had noticed the same thing. Hmm...in my experience, that kind of anecdotal evidence carries a lot of weight. There may actually be something about the new server that is affecting the sound, as implausible as that would seem. Think about everything that has changed, not just the server hardware, but ANYTHING. Like, if the new server was plugged into a different circuit than the old one. You may never figure it out, but then since it sounds better and not worse, you're getting the benefit even if you never solve the puzzle. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
I agree with Phil. I've compared both in my system a few times and cannot tell the difference. -- avta avta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Pale Blue Ego;319174 Wrote: Hmm...in my experience, that kind of anecdotal evidence carries a lot of weight. There may actually be something about the new server that is affecting the sound, as implausible as that would seem. Think about everything that has changed, not just the server hardware, but ANYTHING. Like, if the new server was plugged into a different circuit than the old one. You may never figure it out, but then since it sounds better and not worse, you're getting the benefit even if you never solve the puzzle. It could simply be that the system was sounding particularly bad just before the server change...poor mains AC quality for example. As an A/B is now difficult you (we) will probably never know. The other possibility is that the PSU in the other PC was defective and emitting cr*p into the mains - in which case plugging it back in will degrade the sound... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
eiret;319158 Wrote: I dont think Sean has time to watch movies.. I have a few hundred in crates ready to ship to him... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
Their are certain colourations that cannot be introduced at the speaker stage only , for example the sonics of a valve amp/pre or the colouration of a cartridge/phono stage etc. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
Rodney_Gold;319098 Wrote: If you have ever listened to a completely flat setup in an anechoic chamber you will not be impressed or be able to listen for long. Spot on! Thats the problem with most audiophiles - they want something that is more exiting and with more vivid colors than whats actually there on the source material. Myself on the other hand wants to hear the source material, for good or worse. In that respect, the Transporter is an excellent tool -- StigErik StigErik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
Rodney_Gold wrote: If you have ever listened to a completely flat setup in an anechoic chamber you will not be impressed or be able to listen for long. More than this. Humans don't like anechoic chambers. You won't want to stay in one very long with any kind of music. They are just too weird. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
Phil Leigh wrote: Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't Type of ethernet cable makes NO difference to sound quality But, given that most of the cost of installing cable is the labor, not the wire, there is no reason not to run good CAT6 cable these days. If you have the choice, go wired. IMHO wireless should ONLY be used where it is the only practical option... Always use copper in preference to radios, assuming that you are doing construction. I have WiFi in my house, but also 1500 feet of CAT5 cable. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
Don't know where you got your definition. Or pfareel, for that matter. The world isn't quite so black and white and neither is music reproduction. The goal is music. What makes music enjoyable? Accuracy is too easy a term to throw out. Does anyone want accuracy (or detail or extended lows or extended highs or ...) at the expense of musicality? Many of us have pursued one or the other at some point, only to loose some measure of overall enjoyment. And I haven't met many audiophiles who are trying to make their systems less enjoyable. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
pfarrell;319221 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't Type of ethernet cable makes NO difference to sound quality But, given that most of the cost of installing cable is the labor, not the wire, there is no reason not to run good CAT6 cable these days. If you have the choice, go wired. IMHO wireless should ONLY be used where it is the only practical option... Always use copper in preference to radios, assuming that you are doing construction. I have WiFi in my house, but also 1500 feet of CAT5 cable. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ Pat, yes but as you well know, CAT6 won't affect AUDIO quality. Of course one should use decent ethernet cable for its NETWORKING properties... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
JJZolx;319225 Wrote: Don't know where you got your definition. Or pfareel, for that matter. The world isn't quite so black and white and neither is music reproduction. The goal is music. What makes music enjoyable? Accuracy is too easy a term to throw out. Does anyone want accuracy (or detail or extended lows or extended highs or ...) at the expense of musicality? Many of us have pursued one or the other at some point, only to loose some measure of overall enjoyment. And I haven't met many audiophiles who are trying to make their systems less enjoyable. Indeed. Music reproduction is any shade of the rainbow you want it to be. Accuracy is a red herring. Even if you were in the studio when the music was mastered/mixed you wouldn't necessarily agree with the production choices being made... And as most people have no idea what that sounded like anyway, it simply doesn't matter. What does matter is that you get the necessary enjoyment from listening to your music. For me, the beauty of digital now is that it is possible to get a superbly effective source for relatively little money, neutral amps are plentiful and one can focus ones hard-earned cash on the bit that really makes the difference today - speakers and their interaction with the room. Tune to your tastes. The old source first hegemony that started circa 1976 was valid at the time. It was hard expensive to get a really good domestic source then. Times have changed. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
Phil Leigh wrote: Always use copper in preference to radios, assuming that you are doing construction. Pat, yes but as you well know, CAT6 won't affect AUDIO quality. Of course one should use decent ethernet cable for its NETWORKING properties... For sure. Unless you buy big bucks switches, nothing really runs that needs CAT6. And it never will impact audio quality. But unlike audiocables, where some cost $5, and some $50, and some $500, for little or nor difference, CATA6 is only slightly more expensive than CAT5, Since the labor cost overwhelms the cost of the wiring, there is no sense not dragging the good stuff today. You can always buy the GigE switches later -- often you can't drag the cable later. The only audio quality difference was fixed with the SB2 came out with native Flac and 11g support. With an ancient SB1 using 11b, you could hear the difference, flac would studder. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !
Ok, i'm offically going mad. I bi-amped my speakers earlier in the week, lots of bass and better top end, but with quite a handful of sibilance . After a few days i reverted back to single wiring . But the sibilance is still there not as pronounced. So after checking wiring etc, i grabbed my headphones and listened to a cd cia my amp. Yup, its coming through. Then i listened via cans to my SB3/DAC ... yup sibilance there, so i jacked into the SB3 headphone connection, and yes its there too. Before the bi-amping i don't recall all this sibilance , and using cans it seems to be from source onwards (beyerdynamic 770). And now its driving me mad... Anyone else get this direct from the SB3? as thats my most used source i need to fix there first. To add to the frustration, SACD play perfectly without the faintest hint of a snake in the room. BT -- BigTony We're Only In It For The Music! www.zappateers.com BigTony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !
Are you running digital into your receiver with both SB3 and CD player? I've heard stuff like this in the studio where we had wordclock issues between pieces of gear. Since SACD doesn't put out a digital signal (muted, by design) you're forced to listen via analog inputs. If so, I'd look at the digital input of your receiver or try replacing a digi cable to see if it changes. It could be the D/A of your receiver. Try listening analog out of the SB3 to see what it's like. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
What keeps this 'business' alive is the fact that music, and the listening of it, is TOTALLY subjective by the user. We may both have the same musical tastes and the exact CD copy yet hear it differently, even on the same set of speakers/monitors. The same holds true for the recording of music. I've been in the recording industry for 37+ years and have a specific philosophy in the studio when tracking. While a LOT of engineers prefer a certain mic pre-amp because it has a color of its own, I prefer a 'wire-with-gain' type of preamp that adds nothing to the sound. I then select the microphone based on what I want to hear from the source... kind of like a reverse speaker selection. All this to say, your ears and brain will tell you what YOU like, and it will certainly be different than what I will like. Most studios do have multiple sets of monitors in each controlroom, just to hear how the mix will 'sit' on a variety of playback systems. When tracking I want to hear the problem areas, but while mixing I may 'downgrade' to a consumer type as another reference. Even so, if 100% of the buying public liked everything I did all the time, I would've had multiple platinum albums on the wall a long time ago... but that's not the case. Just get what you like and tell everyone else to take a flying leap! ;-) -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !
I'm running into a standalone DAC. The headphone output on the SB3 also comes across with sibilance . I'll try the analogue out, and a new digital cable. Will i never learn to not muck about with things when they are sounding great! BT -- BigTony We're Only In It For The Music! www.zappateers.com BigTony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10638 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49792 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
darrenyeats;317708 Wrote: Michael, You are absolutely right about SNR decreasing. The only thing I would add is that this factor is the only thing to worry about. Bits don't come into it. The reason is that by the time any bits are lost they are lost at the small end, and that is buried deep in the noise floor. There is no way to tell whether the bit was 1 or 0 just before it is lost, so you don't notice losing it. So lost bits are never the issue with an SB3 or TP. However, your point about SNR is the issue. A TP can play a decent range of volumes without the SNR dipping below 96db (the SNR of 16 bits). You don't need any more SNR than that to play red book in all its glory. IMO for red book on a TP a preamp will result in more distortion overall and at best divert funds from valuable areas to an unnecessary (in SQ terms) piece of equipment. So, you are completely right to wait on buying the pre until you have other sources that make it necessary...the only point I would make is that multiple sources is the _only_ reason you would invest in a pre playing red book on a TP. Darren Darren, Thanks for the info. It's good to know that my rationale on the issue has been solid. I will continue to await a turntable and Universal/SACD player before I spring for a Preamp. -Michae -- Grenamc Grenamc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17965 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
HDMI - *translates to* - Happy Doing Movie Interface -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Yes it could be a defect PSU, but since the server doesn't transcode the music it is hard to believe that it could have any effect. But never the less... Actually the new server isn't pluged to the same powersupply as the old one. Since I am still testing it I won't move it into my serverroom just yet. But when I do it will be funny to see if it makes any diffence.. -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles
StigErik;319215 Wrote: Spot on! Thats the problem with most audiophiles - they want something that is more exiting and with more vivid colors than whats actually there on the source material. Myself on the other hand wants to hear the source material, for good or worse. In that respect, the Transporter is an excellent tool Eric, I agree about everything. -- connorml Reduce to the max! Transporter -- Sommer Cable Epilogue (XLR) -- ME-Geithain RL 922k SqueezeCenter 7.1 - 21605 | Firmware: 45 connorml's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11141 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49757 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last.fm bitrate
Great and cool. Now I can listen to my own recommendation,as well as friends, neightbours in last.fm. I thought only users from US can listen to last.fm previously. I am from Malaysia. :) -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner #61614; Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2 #61614; VDL The Source / AQ Copperhead (current) #61614; Cambridge Audio 540A #61614; Chord Carnival Silver Plus (current) / VDL Goldwater #61614; Sonus Faber Concertino Domus Dell Inspiron 640m #61614; Window Vista #61614; SC 7.0.1 - 19705 (14 May 08)#61614; Firmware: 88 #61614; Aztech DSL600EW iPod Touch 16GB fw 1.1.4 Last.FM : http://www.last.fm/user/auronthas Last.FM group I lead : http://www.last.fm/group/Easy+Listening+-+Jazz+-+Classical+-+New+Age auronthas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12394 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49661 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.
Will the universal Remote, like the Harmony One, show the artist and or play-lists on its screen while it is communicating with the Transporter. I'm not as interested in album art but so see the artist or play-list would be great. Thanks for any info. -Ross -- Ross101 Ross101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49801 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean
eiret;319292 Wrote: HDMI - *translates to* - Happy Doing Movie Interface We will have to wait and see if it ever gets used as such, but HDMI could also be Happy Doing Musical Interface. After all, in version 1.3 it fully supports hi res audio, in both PCM and DSD. Cheers, Dave -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal to Noise Ratio, and a Bandwidth from DC to Daylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
I gotta agree with Pat here, if you're running copper, why not future proof and run CAT6? It's not required, even for Gigabit ethernet CAT5e is fine, but it the cost difference is small compared to the labour and effort. -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal to Noise Ratio, and a Bandwidth from DC to Daylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.
The Harmony One, as great as it is, is a one-way infra-red remote, so what you're looking for is not possible. As you're probably aware, the SB Controller does exactly what you're looking for, but it's not a universal remote. -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49801 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.
Dave. Thanks, I sort of figured that but wasn't sure.. -Ross -- Ross101 Ross101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49801 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox v3 cabling ?
Provos;319075 Wrote: Since you have a receiver which probably has a decent optical in, and the SB3 has a good quality optical out, the answer is YES you should try a qualitiy optical cable. This cable should be glass rather than plastic. The plastic ones can perform poorly. By using Toslink you gain electrical isolation between your receiver and the SB, and you also are immune to the effects of radio frequencies while in the cable, each which may improve the sound. You may or may not notice a difference in your system/room. Note that at high frequency transmissions optical cable is more limited, but this is not a problem with the SB3 since it tops out at 24bit/48k which the glass can handle with ease. Co-ax cable is a better chioce if you need to do a long run, greater than about 1.5 meters, since there is much greater attenuation of signal in the optical cable over longer distances. I use a Cardas Lightening Digital co-ax cable or a Harmony Optical One glass optical cable to connect my SB3 to my Channel Island DAC. I dont hear any difference between them, they both sound great. I threw away the plastic Toslink and RCA jumper cables that I used to use, because they both sound dull and flat in comparison. Provos, I personally also agree with everything you've said here - I would only add that with good glass Toslink, I think you can run a longer cable than 1.5m without problem... -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49666 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?
Phil Leigh;319195 Wrote: ...The other possibility is that the PSU in the other PC was defective and emitting cr*p into the mains - in which case plugging it back in will degrade the sound... If there in fact is a sonic difference here, then this noisy PSU idea is most likely the culprit in my opinion. Those older computers needed fairly meager PSU's (much less power requirement), and so these mass-produced cheap and weak PSU's were very noisy indeed. More recent computers require more power and better PSU's, which tend to be less noisy and less line-polluting as a result. Still seems strange that the difference (if any) would be audible though - seems a very unlikely outcome to me... -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
