Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dead end or not...

2008-11-02 Thread Nonreality

DeVerm;352653 Wrote: 
 But Sean, you could bundle it with an ultra-portable audiophile DAC with
 belt-clip, available in 6 colors! Also, you would want to add a newly
 developed, environment hardened toslink cable with the same color
 selection, plus an add-on for external video so that you can add the
 display-glasses as a future option, with Gucchi frame!
 
 cheers,
 Nick.

Don't forget the dual cable reef knot option.  How are we going to make
money if you don't talk it up?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread pablolie

as stated often before, the A5s represent one of the most unique
audiophile level price-value propositions out there. the sound quality
is beyond amazing for a $400 speaker. there are some others out there
that are potentially just as great, but they all seem to cost a bit
more. the nht M00 wiyth the matching NYT subqoofer also sound very
sweep, but the combo runs over $600 and i find it decidedly less
musical.

and i am not sure what happened to acoustic energey, they had a set
called the Aego M that was also mindblwoing at the price, i have it at
work. but people who tried buying it these days tell me it's become
impossible to find.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread Listener

I use in my home office driven by a good quality PCI audio card. I
mostly listen in the near field (3' away from the speakers.)  I
sometimes listen from farther away or from the next room.  I think they
are very enjoyable and a great bargain.

Some suggestions:

- A5s have a rear port.  They need to be at least 4 away from the wall
behind them.  (More distance might be better. Right now, placing mine 4
from the rear wall is convenient.) Bass will be too heavy and boomy if
they are too close to the rear wall.

- The left A5 has a volume control on the front and the on-off switch
on the back.  It is convenient to leave the A5s on and to control
volume with the knob on the left A5.

- A5s have auto-sensing to let them go into a low power mode after they
have been idle for a few minutes.  The auto-sensing works better if the
input level is high.  So set the volume in the source to a high level
and use the A5 volume control to reduce the level.

- The auto-sensing doesn't work instantly.  A fraction of a second of
music is not audible when the A5s wait up after being in low-power
mode.  If this is a show-stopper for you, the A5s may not be the right
choice.

- Like most speakers, the A5s frequency response varies depending on
your position relative to the tweeter axis.  be prepared to place them
higher or lower to get best results.  (or tilt them.)

Bill


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PC World - Audiophiles guide to streaming music

2008-11-02 Thread Mark Lanctot

Nonreality;355413 Wrote: 
 It could have at least mentioned dbpoweramp

Agreed, although there are more than just those two, and the article
shouldn't have to go on for 20 pages...

 and a better overall ripper and converter than EAC.

That's a subjective opinion though.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread ShutterShock

Thanks for your insight and affirmation.

Tim


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PC World - Audiophiles guide to streaming music

2008-11-02 Thread Themis

Mark Lanctot;356061 Wrote: 
 That's a subjective opinion though.Let's say, that it's the subjective 
 opinion of those who have used
both. ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread bhaagensen

Well, since we're in the audiophile forum here we go... The A5's are not
audiophile, and not so by far. Why so? Because they don't possess any
audiophile characteristics. They fail miserably on stuff like clarity,
imaging, centering, precision, freqnency response, tightness in bass
etc. Well OK, they can play loud, but only for short periods of time
before the thermal protection kicks in. 

What they are is a competitive compromise. They relatively pleasant to
listen to, being a one, OK two box, solution they are quite compact,
they're not that ugly, they're not that expensive, and they can play
loud and in doing so poor out plenty of bass. 

However if your going for audiophile you can certainly get better stuff
for about the same money. One way to do this is to sacrifice some of the
ompf and pure spl. That will put you in the marked for something like
the smallest Fostex which are more audiophile, but in many ways not as
impressive. Or you could go for something used. For that kind of money
you could get some OK bookshelf speakers and an integrated amp which
would easily dance around the table with the A5's. Of course its not as
compact and used gear in that price range may have some bumps and
scratches, but it'll sound better for sure. Or you could get some used
active speakers, but where I live those don't seem to come up very
often.

My 2c etc.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread pablolie

bhaagensen;356117 Wrote: 
 Well, since we're in the audiophile forum here we go... The A5's are not
 audiophile, and not so by far. Why so? Because they don't possess any
 audiophile characteristics. They fail miserably on stuff like clarity,
 imaging, centering, precision, freqnency response, tightness in bass
 etc. Well OK, they can play loud, but only for short periods of time
 before the thermal protection kicks in. 
 QUOTE]
 
 I totally disagree. If there is one thing the A5s do NOT do well is to
 play very loud. They are NOT designed for boy rocker types. 
 
 I do have an audiophile main system. I can still totally enjoy
 lsitening to usic on the A5s - they undoubteldy do deliver true
 audiophile qualities. They do provide good staguing and depth, and very
 good clarity and transparency.
 
 I truly think you are merely allowing their price tag to prevent you
 from lsitening to them with an open mind. You can obviously not expect
 to listen to the same quality levels you'd get out of a $7,000-plus and
 well matched system (heavens know I have listened to more expensive
 systems that are actually less audiophule than an SB3 hooked up to a
 pair of A5s, unfortunately). But you are utterly overstating the
 limitations of the A5, the simply fact is that they do sound like
 something that 5 years ago would have commanded over 5 times their
 price tag in an audiophile shop.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread pablolie

pablolie;355980 Wrote: 
 as stated often before, the A5s represent one of the most unique
 audiophile level price-value propositions out there. the sound quality
 is beyond amazing for a $400 speaker. there are some others out there
 that are potentially just as great, but they all seem to cost a bit
 more. the nht M00 wiyth the matching NYT subqoofer also sound very
 sweep, but the combo runs over $600 and i find it decidedly less
 musical.
 
 and i am not sure what happened to acoustic energey, they had a set
 called the Aego M that was also mindblwoing at the price, i have it at
 work. but people who tried buying it these days tell me it's become
 impossible to find.

Since we are in a Logitech forum, I'd also like to put a good word in
for the
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/speakers_audio/home_pc_speakers/devices/231cl=us,en

Audiopjile they aren't, but they are very musical PC speakers that
sound amazing for their below $200 price tag, and provide very clear
sound if one sets the subwoo up right. Logitech is doing very
disruptive things.

I for one predict that in less than 10 years we will get better sound
quality out of DSP controlled power 2.1 systems than we have from our
beloved traditional stereo setups, at a fraction of the price. I look
at it with a tear in one eye, and great expectations on the other side.
It is an exciting time to love music and its delivery through a balanced
audio system.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] PC World - Audiophiles guide to streaming music

2008-11-02 Thread Ken
Mark Lanctot wrote:
 Nonreality;355413 Wrote: 
 It could have at least mentioned dbpoweramp
 
 Agreed, although there are more than just those two, and the article
 shouldn't have to go on for 20 pages...
 
 and a better overall ripper and converter than EAC.
 
 That's a subjective opinion though.
 

Actually, Illustrate makes this claim, and from their perspective it's not 
entirely subjective.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread NewBuyer

ShutterShock;355974 Wrote: 
 Any powered speaker recommendations for direct connection from a SB
 Classic?... Just wondering about room-filling alternatives...

For a room filling alternative, you might try a pair of Quad 12L2
Active speakers - 'Here's an audiogon link to a good priced new pair of
them.'
(http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?spkrmoni1230596425/Quad-12L-Active-monitor-New-bi)

I personally haven't found any active monitors yet that are as
audiophile as a separate amp/speakers set, but these particular Quads
are closer than most IMO...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Bedroom Box

2008-11-02 Thread bundee1

where did you get that case? What are it's dimensions?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread muski

What about something from dynaudio accoustics?  These are near to
mid-field -- maybe big enough to fill a small room:

http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/Default.asp?Id=279

(I am considering a pair of BM 6A MkII for my desktop.)

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread bhaagensen

pablolie;356145 Wrote: 
 
 I do have an audiophile main system. I can still totally enjoy
 lsitening to usic on the A5s - they undoubteldy do deliver true
 audiophile qualities. They do provide good staguing and depth, and very
 good clarity and transparency.
 
 I truly think you are merely allowing their price tag to prevent you
 from lsitening to them with an open mind. You can obviously not expect
 to listen to the same quality levels you'd get out of a $7,000-plus and
 well matched system 

It's not about the A5's being cheap.  The point is that it is a piece
of cake to find much better stuff at the same price. You might have to
go with used stuff, but if sound-quality is the target, then that will
be the best solution.

It took me 5 min. to find the following. A pair of Dali 450 (which are
excelent, I have owned a pair), here listed at ~86USD

http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detail.asp?annonceid=57302491

Pair it with e.g. this NAD 317 here availble at ~170USD and it WILL
most certainly beat the crap out of the A5's.

http://www.dba.dk/asp/soegning/detail.asp?annonceid=57076692

This is orders of magnitutes better than the A5's, there is no
discussing that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations

2008-11-02 Thread bhaagensen

Also search on these very forums for comparisons of the audioengines and
the boom. I think you will find that most grade the boom as sounding
better. And Its about the same price and does a whole lot more.  The
audioengines are not anything special sound quality wise. They are nice
and competitive as such, but thats it.


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