Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread raven22

i own this one (trends ta-10) and it is excellent:
http://www.trendsaudio.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=37Itemid=28


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread snow

That Trends Audio TA-10.1 looks sweet. justhide it somewhere, set
powerswitch on and the volume to max, then everything can be controlled
by the squuezebox.

How is the sound from it?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread raven22

snow;461336 Wrote: 
 That Trends Audio TA-10.1 looks sweet. justhide it somewhere, set
 powerswitch on and the volume to max, then everything can be controlled
 by the squuezebox.
 
 How is the sound from it?

just excellent, i use it with a tube pre-amp but it powers my big
floorstanding speakers quite well. Only when i really sit down for a
critical listening session i switch to my class A amplifiers
(monoblocks). 
But mainly i listen to the trend (consumes just a few watt compared to
about 400 hundred of my class A amps)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread snow

raven22;461339 Wrote: 
 
 edit, by the way you can bypass the volumecontrol and make it just a
 poweramp.

How will I do that?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread raven22

inside there are a few jumpers, it is well documented in the manual


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread snow

Nice, i'll pick one up on monday.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A small amp for my livingroom setup.

2009-09-25 Thread raven22

snow;461346 Wrote: 
 Nice, i'll pick one up on monday.

let us know how you like them!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 with Beresford Caiman

2009-09-25 Thread Themis

Ok, Caiman arrived last Tuesday but I won't be able to listen to it
'till tomorrow morning. 
More news arriving soon. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 with Beresford Caiman

2009-09-25 Thread technobear

Themis;461374 Wrote: 
 Ok, Caiman arrived last Tuesday but I won't be able to listen to it
 'till tomorrow morning. 
 More news arriving soon. :)

I hope you've got it plugged in and playing in the meantime. It takes a
while to settle down. The first few hours are 'interesting' so don't
judge it straight away.

I've just received my second Caiman and I'm burning it in 24/7 for two
weeks with headphones connected and the fixed outs connected to an amp.
The amp input is selected but the amp is off. With the 'phones in a
cupboard it's not intrusive.

Patience is a virtue. The result is well worth the wait IMHO.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The next major Audiophile question on here?

2009-09-25 Thread JohnSwenson

I'm the one that gave that report on the touch S/PDIF output. I am a
beta tester and have taken one apart and examined it very thoroughly and
have a good idea of how the S/PDIF output works. I have done extensive
listening between the touch and stock SB3 and a modified SB3. I have not
done the modifications to the touch (yet!) The SBs were run into several
good DACs, some which had reclocking and some which did not. 

I'm also a DAC designer and have a pretty good understanding of the
technical issues involved, if people are REALLY interested I can cover
some of the more detailed technical issues involved. In order to do this
I  would like real interest in the subject because I would wind up
spending many hours writing it all down, its not short or simple. And to
make it more interesting there is still a lot we don't know about WHY
certain technical aspect causes particular sonic signatures. So there is
still a fair amount of it seems to be this but we are not really sure

BTW the modifications I was talking about above are replacing the SB
crystals with very low jitter oscillators. Even when feeding a DAC using
the infamous Sabre DAC chip, which has what is supposedly one of the
best ASRC implementations the SB3 with the low jitter oscillators sounds
quite a bit better than the stock SB3. The stock touch is in between
these two. On a DAC with out any form of reclocking (Crystal receiver
driving DAC chips directly) but with very good analog stage, the
difference is even bigger. 

On the subject of S/PDIF in general, I despise it, I consider it one of
the worst things ever foisted on the general public. 

The RIGHT way to use a SB is have low jitter oscillators right next to
the DAC chips and feed those to the SB in place of its local crystals,
this is what I do in my own personal DAC, it works extremely well. As
was mentioned in this thread the best approach would be to build a DAC
with the SB interface hard coupled in so no S/PDIF etc. This is
definitely doable with the touch, nobody is doing it commercially, but
it might just happen in the future. 

John S.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The next major Audiophile question on here?

2009-09-25 Thread Pat Farrell
JohnSwenson wrote:
 On the subject of S/PDIF in general, I despise it, I consider it one of
 the worst things ever foisted on the general public. 

Its not a  bad design given its target audience. It was a consumer, mass
market interconnect, aimed at the same folks who have never listened to
anything other than heavily compressed MP3s over the ear buds included
in your PMP.

It delivers on that requirement.

It was never seen as an audiophile or pro-audio connection.

While I don't think its acceptable for critical systems, I disagree that
its worthy of hatred. Its perfect for 2 inch diameter full range
speaker systems.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 with Beresford Caiman

2009-09-25 Thread Themis

Altough I agree that some burn-in may be usefull, especially for
speakers, I never noticed that burn-in process -strongly -alter the
equipment's sonic signature.
What I noticed, however, is that certain subtle characteristics of some
equipment, only become apparent (can be noticed) after a few days'
listening to it.


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