Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
... say some. Others say it makes no difference. Others still say it makes the Touch sound worse. So it seems YMMV. Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
It's pretty weird but in my simple DAC headphone amp and headphones, the improvement is better definition, the sound before is veiled and blured in comparaison. It's obvious with headphones and a good amp. It is also logical that if you kill all the polluting thread inside the SBT it will sound better. It is not logical in the contrary to believe leaving all those CPU consuming useless threads that it will sound better. Your opinion may vary. edodo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
totoro wrote: I at least pointed out what some issues with your post were. Your reply was exactly nothing but a rather pathetic attempt at a chest thump. I personally love k+ h speakers, which are active. My next pair will be gedlee abbies though. It's fairly clear that you are either unable or unwilling to have an intelligent conversation about the technical merits of active crossovers, which is an interesting topic (and is in any event somewhat off topic, but is just about the only intelligible subject I can extract out of your last blurts of rhetorical diarrhea), or what problems people in general may have with expectation biases. My guess is unable due to cognitive deficit and a severe case of Dunning Kruger syndrome. I said which active speakers with active crossover are inferior, please elaborate. Now your statement is basically what chest pump you are referring to. I have a good ear, and I know a thing or two about music history and composition, although in electronic things related I let the techs speaks... Never said I was the king of the hill. When I am put down in such an insulting manner how would you react? I'm just saying that in passive crossover there is a big amount of distorsion and unless you resolve this with magic you are behind a veiled system to critically judge this mod. edodo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
edodo wrote: Insulting people are always TROLLS What I meant is which active speakers with active crossover are inferior, please elaborate. Now your statement is basically what chest pump you are referring to. I have a good ear, and I know a thing or two about music history and composition, although in electronic things related I let the techs speaks... Never said I was the king of the hill. When I am put down in such an insulting manner how would you react? I'm just saying that in passive crossover there is a big amount of distorsion and unless you resolve this with magic you are behind a veiled system to critically judge this mod. You were implicitly calling your interlocutors children, which is insulting in the first place, and telling everyone your speakers were better than theirs based on the fact that they're active. If you're going to do stuff like that, you can expect a harsh response. In fact, you pretty much invited it. And you'll note that in a thread about tweakery involving settings on the os of your squeezebox, accusing your opponents of not being able to hear the difference between good speakers and poor ones is an irrelevance in the first place, and compounded with the fact that, at least insofar as your post makes any sense, the good speakers you are speaking of you seem to have claimed are better (than all passive ones, supposedly, and certainly better than any your opponents own) _precisely_ because they are active, which brings us to another point. As far as active speakers go, nearly the whole of the studio monitor market is active. Some of those speakers are wonderful, and some of them suck. The whole thing about which active speakers are inferior is frankly a little silly: there are wonderful and terrible active speakers, as there are wonderful and terrible passive speakers. I'd take a pair of Danley unity horns or a pair of Geddes summas over pretty nearly any active speakers I've ever heard, including the k+h o410s. There really are advantages to going active, that's indisputable. But not all active speakers are great, and not all passive speakers are worse than all active speakers, or even all really good active speakers. Active speakers do seem like a better way to go, I agree, but that's really a separate point, completely different from the original point under discussion, and would best be brought up in a more reasonable manner: I would guess that with the advent of crossovers in dsp and cheapish class d amps, they will eventually become the norm. As far as chest thumping goes, the post of yours I called trollery had the following content: my ears are really good, I'm an adult, and my speakers are really good: if you disagree with me, one of these properties does not hold of you. In the first place, the My ears are better than yours and so is my stereo thing is a tired piece of rhetorical flotsam that the pure subjective types always bring up under pressure. It's not an argument at all, and is insulting enough that the only response it deserves is mockery. In the second place, the whole active speaker canard is typical of the hysterical humanities major type arguing about technical subjects he has no real idea about, so I poked you about it. In the third place, you either don't seem to know about expectation biases or seem to think they don't apply to you because you are an adult: this is so foolish it deserved pointing out. I said all of this more succinctly in my first response to you, of which you seem to have only read the last sentence. Anyway, screaming TROLL without any accompanying argument after being called out for such stuff is just digging your hole deeper. totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
edodo wrote: It's pretty weird but in my simple DAC headphone amp and headphones, the improvement is better definition, the sound before is veiled and blured in comparaison. It's obvious with headphones and a good amp. It is also logical that if you kill all the polluting thread inside the SBT it will sound better. It is not logical in the contrary to believe leaving all those CPU consuming useless threads that it will sound better. Your opinion may vary. Interesting which thread did you find polluting? Thanx billybeek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54815 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
totoro wrote: My guess is unable due to cognitive deficit and a severe case of Dunning Kruger syndrome. If I were you I'd check it out. Medicine nowadays is capable of performing miracles. magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
Soulkeeper wrote: ... say some. Others say it makes no difference. Others still say it makes the Touch sound worse. So it seems YMMV. You forgot the fourth option -- others never bothered to give it a try. Which didn't prevent them from offering a strong opinion about TT3.0. magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
magiccarpetride wrote: If I were you I'd check it out. Medicine nowadays is capable of performing miracles. Actually, you are pretty much the poster boy for Dunning Kruger. Your posts have this really remarkable combination of complete stupidity mixed with a rather pathetic pseudo-intellectual snarkery. The usual tagline for Dunning Kruger is unskilled and unaware. Change unskilled to lacking in cognitive abilities, and we have a pretty good description of you. I'd call you an idiot, but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere. totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
totoro wrote: Actually, you are pretty much the poster boy for Dunning Kruger. Your posts have this really remarkable combination of complete stupidity mixed with a rather pathetic pseudo-intellectual snarkery. The usual tagline for Dunning Kruger is unskilled and unaware. Change unskilled to lacking in cognitive abilities, and we have a pretty good description of you. I'd call you an idiot, but that would be an insult to idiots everywhere. Like I said, you are the king of haters. magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
magiccarpetride wrote: Like I said, you are the king of haters. What an amazingly witty comeback. So the way the world works is that you act like an obnoxious moron, and when anyone calls you on it he is a hater? Must be nice living in your own alternate universe. totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
edodo wrote: It is not logical in the contrary to believe leaving all those CPU consuming useless threads that it will sound better. Your opinion may vary. It can potentially sound better with all the useless threads, if less variation in power supply buss noise is better. By keeping a continuous CPU loading, rather than having it vary, this might sound better to you. Depends what those useless threads are actually doing too. Also in EDO, as an option, there is a means to keep the CPU loading continuous/stable and thus prevent the CPU from slipping into its low-power mode when lightly loaded, which also might sound better to you. Really too many possibilities to guess, best to just try it and write it off if you find no worthwhile diff. Not a lot of rules with this stuff... cfraser's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New SBT person old Audiophile
cfraser wrote: It can potentially sound better with all the useless threads, if less variation in power supply buss noise is better. By keeping a continuous CPU loading, rather than having it vary, this might sound better to you. Depends what those useless threads are actually doing too. Also in EDO, as an option, there is a means to keep the CPU loading continuous/stable and thus prevent the CPU from slipping into its low-power mode when lightly loaded, which also might sound better to you. Really too many possibilities to guess, best to just try it and write it off if you find no worthwhile diff. Not a lot of rules with this stuff... Thanx for the reply will check it out billybeek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54815 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94912 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
JohnSwenson wrote: I had to do a little work to get TT3.0 to work with it, I had to set the buffer to over 5000, and I had to change some of the priority settings. The esiest way to change the priorities was to just turn them off all together. I didn't have time to figure out which one caused a problem. John S. John, for us Linux illiterates, could you share how? I have Furutech GT40 DAC since Monday. (USB 2.0 Fullspeed UAC 1 (adaptive) limited to 24/96). Before Monday I was on analogue out from SBT. TT3.0 worked fine. The GT40 came, I factory reset SBT, installed EDO 0.4, all fine with GT40. But when I put back TT3.0 on top, sound is completely garbled. tt -r, all fine again, (though not sure it yet sounds better than my tweaked Marantz CD transport). In a different forum (Audio Asylum) soundcheck asked if you'd read the post and could offer any advice with setting priorities which he thought might be the issue. TT buffer setting seems not to work on top of EDO - stays at 2. Not sure if this is relevant. All advice/suggestions gratefully received. Thanks in advance Bryn BrynClarke's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15429 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
totoro wrote: What an amazingly witty comeback. So the way the world works is that you act like an obnoxious moron, and when anyone calls you on it he is a hater? Must be nice living in your own alternate universe. That's not what I said. All I said was that you are the king of haters. I didn't talk about anyone else. magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
please work together to identify a common insanity. neither you on the perceptive side nor your equipment will ever discern any difference from CD quality of course, y'all can argue about the different releases of the same music save us all some damn time pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
magiccarpetride wrote: That's not what I said. All I said was that you are the king of haters. I didn't talk about anyone else. Suszej: have a hard time somewhere else pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
pski wrote: please work together to identify a common insanity. neither you on the perceptive side nor your equipment will ever discern any difference from CD quality of course, y'all can argue about the different releases of the same music save us all some damn time pski, what sort of programming work are you looking for ? Might be able to set you up with something. You would have to work on your interpersonal skills though. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
BrynClarke wrote: John, for us Linux illiterates, could you share how? I have Furutech GT40 DAC since Monday. (USB 2.0 Fullspeed UAC 1 (adaptive) limited to 24/96). Before Monday I was on analogue out from SBT. TT3.0 worked fine. The GT40 came, I factory reset SBT, installed EDO 0.4, all fine with GT40. But when I put back TT3.0 on top, sound is completely garbled. tt -r, all fine again, (though not sure it yet sounds better than my tweaked Marantz CD transport). In a different forum (Audio Asylum) soundcheck asked if you'd read the post and could offer any advice with setting priorities which he thought might be the issue. TT buffer setting seems not to work on top of EDO - stays at 2. Not sure if this is relevant. All advice/suggestions gratefully received. Thanks in advance Bryn I posted some settings at the end of the defunct TT3.0 thread, that a number of people are using EDO with TT3.0. PM me if you want more details. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
Enjoying the sound out of vanila SBT on wireless. One problem though - After moving the SBT from wired to wireless, actions from squeezebox app on iphone is slow to respond - takes a 3-4 seconds fro SBT to respond. Any idea why this could happen? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
magiccarpetride wrote: That's not what I said. All I said was that you are the king of haters. I didn't talk about anyone else. Of course, that doesn't invalidate anything I said. I'm not the only one here who has been harsh to you, and you have been banned here before for being a twit, so you might want to consider that in the universe where everyone else lives, the opprobrium that gets heaped on your head gets there at least partially as a result of your own actions. By calling me a hater, you seem to be claiming that my harshness towards you is completely unjustified, and purely arises because of my hateful nature. This is pretty funny, actually. And, by the way, you might want to notice that he word hater is pretty much only used by teenagers and mental defectives. totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
