Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
The answer is: Expectation Bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimenter's_bias) SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
SuperQ wrote: The answer is: Expectation Bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimenter's_bias) to quote soundcheck - 'everything affects the sound' fidelizer sets the system timer to 15 ms fidelizer adjusts non essential processes to low priority does some other things so basically it is optimising windows so there is less contention for resources when running lms and less noise the difference between non fidelizer and fidelizer extreme mode should be apparent, even to SuperQ's ears SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations
Phileas wrote: Can I add AVI ADM40s to the list? I've just bought a pair and they're extraordinary (I had the ADM9Ts already). I'd love to hear what you think of them, I've fancied a pair of the ADM9T's with a Sub, but now having seen these, I'm really intrested in them. They are a big price hike, so they would have to be a quantum improvement for me to justify the extra cost. I see that at the moment, they are made to order, but you can go to ADM to audition them. If you could post some pictures of these speakers, it would be very helpful in seeing the quality of finish. RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
SuperQ wrote: The answer is: Expectation Bias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimenter's_bias) SuperQ - you're not allowed to say this. The OP has made it clear that you're only allowed to post conjecture that reinforces his expectations. I'm surprised he let you get away with this. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
chill wrote: SuperQ - you're not allowed to say this. The OP has made it clear that you're only allowed to post conjecture that reinforces his expectations. I'm surprised he let you get away with this. OP says . Please note: I am not interested in hearing from the LOL, you cant possibly be hearing a difference chorus. Post elsewhere if that is your (only) response.. Rather, I am interested in thoughts as to why Fidelizer (or any server OS optimisation) could help SQ on the SBT.. Of course he can hear a difference nobody doubts that ,it is just that it does not happen in the realm of data acoustic or electricity . As these server tweaks does not change anything at the Touch end it still buffers the same data the signal remains the same . You can always hear differences , SuperQ just suggested the most plausible mechanism that makes fidelizer do that for squeezeboxes ( it may very well work for some issues in pc playback on that I have no opinion ) , so it actually answered the question ? Without LoL Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
Mnyb wrote: You can always hear differences , SuperQ just suggested the most plausible mechanism that makes fidelizer do that for squeezeboxes ( it may very well work for some issues in pc playback on that I have no opinion ) , so it actually answered the question ? Without LoL You make a good point. I stand corrected. So do you think the OP is interested in the THE simple test that will demonstrate that SuperQ's suggested mechanism is the correct one? You know, the 'just pull the plug' test. chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
ok, sorry in advance, I have not read through this posting, except for the first few posts. Now comes the real deal of the posting Can someone post a @who To' to get this working with the current realease of LMS? RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Powered Speakers Recommendations
RussellMrgn wrote: I'd love to hear what you think of them, I've fancied a pair of the ADM9T's with a Sub, but now having seen these, I'm really intrested in them. They are a big price hike, so they would have to be a quantum improvement for me to justify the extra cost. I see that at the moment, they are made to order, but you can go to ADM to audition them. If you could post some pictures of these speakers, it would be very helpful in seeing the quality of finish. Russell, if you go to the AVI forum, there's a review section where you'll find reviews by me and several owners including some pictures. The AVI website also has a nice picture of one with cherry veneer. In my opinion, these are a very significant advance over the ADM9T+sub. However, there is also a new and improved version of the ADM9T available (with a new woofer design) which I haven't heard but by all accounts is also a worthwhile improvement. Phileas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20367 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54559 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Impedance Matching Squeezeboxen to DACs
cfraser wrote: ^ Tell me more!! Please. I have never heard of such an xfmr before, but I should have known they existed... The AES/EBU sounds better here too. Has an open-ness and a sense of the music coming out of infinite blackness; very noticeable when other DACs/inputs *don't* have it. I have not opened this DAC (years of warranty left) to see if I can tell why the AES/EBU sounds that extra notch better. Thanks. Here is the exact one I use. I have a hardwired standard Blue Jeans coax with bnc from the SBT connects straight into this and this plugs into the AES/EBU Dac input. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canare-BCJ-XP-TRB-Digital-Audio-Format-Converter-Balun-XLR-Male-BNC-Female-/280892208028 HumanMedia's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44865 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95614 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
Fozzy wrote: For me, morally as well as legally, one should obtain music in a way that at least has the potential to provide the writers and performers of the music with money unless they specifically choose to give the music away. In the olden days, before mass copying technology became affordable and available to the mainstream audiences, the only way you could enjoy music is by attending the actual performance. That does not necessarily mean attending the actual live performance. For example, the publishing house could record a popular band, such as the Beatles, but then instead of mass producing the sound carriers (such as LPs) to be distributed, they could've arranged for a series of scheduled playbacks at certain venues. One could easily imagine an event where distributors could charge admission fees (like $10.00 per person) for attending the playback of the Beatles album Abbey Road. People would show up, pay the admission, be seated, and then the playback would commence. Side A, short intermission, Side B. After which everybody goes home. You want to hear Abbey Road again? Sure, pay $10.00 and attend another 'performance'. And so on. The above is how the movie industry used to function. That was during the pre-VHS/DVD/blu ray/Netflix/Youtube days. Why music industry chose to go with a different model, whereby they would mass produce and distribute copies of the recorded performance, is a curious fact that remains kind of difficult to explain. Have they stuck with the movie industry model (i.e. you pay each time you want to attend the playback), I'm sure they would've made much more money in the long run. But by now, the cat is out of the bag, as we all are in possession of dirt cheap means for not only making unlimited number of identical copies of recorded music, but also unlimited channels for distributing and sharing these copies. magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Impedance Matching Squeezeboxen to DACs
HumanMedia wrote: Here is the exact one I use. I have a hardwired standard Blue Jeans coax with bnc from the SBT connecting into the BNC at one end of this. The other xlr end plugs into the AES/EBU Dac input. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Canare-BCJ-XP-TRB-Digital-Audio-Format-Converter-Balun-XLR-Male-BNC-Female-/280892208028 I'd be interested in John's opinion on these transformer based converters. Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95614 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
chill wrote: You make a good point. I stand corrected. So do you think the OP is interested in the THE simple test that will demonstrate that SuperQ's suggested mechanism is the correct one? You know, the 'just pull the plug' test. But that test is not necessarily defintive, it only tells you if the processing on the Touch is the issue. There are other possible paths from server to ears such as EMI radiated from server, noise injected on power mains etc. Something which is changing the whole operating environment of the server COULD be changing something which gets transfered through one of these indirect paths, even when audio data is not actively being transmitted to the Touch. Now if you unplugged the the Touch from the ethernet AND unplugged the power form the server at the same time, THEN you would have a more convincing test. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
JohnSwenson wrote: But that test is not necessarily defintive, it only tells you if the processing on the Touch is the issue. There are other possible paths from server to ears such as EMI radiated from server, noise injected on power mains etc. Something which is changing the whole operating environment of the server COULD be changing something which gets transfered through one of these indirect paths, even when audio data is not actively being transmitted to the Touch. Now if you unplugged the the Touch from the ethernet AND unplugged the power form the server at the same time, THEN you would have a more convincing test. John S. with my large buffer settings I can get several minutes playback of 16/44.1 stored on the touch after the music has loaded via the ethernet. So I can switch off the laptop and disconnect the ethernet while the music is still playing - the sound doesn't change when I do this, it does change if I use fidelizer, that is good enough proof for me that fidelizer works. SBGK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52003 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
SBGK wrote: with my large buffer settings I can get several minutes playback of 16/44.1 stored on the touch after the music has loaded via the ethernet. So I can switch off the laptop and disconnect the ethernet while the music is still playing - the sound doesn't change when I do this, it does change if I use fidelizer, that is good enough proof for me that fidelizer works. That's impressive - as you can get say 3 seconds worth of buffering from the tunable alsa buffer (usb interface), 10 seconds from the output buffer and then the main buffer (pre decoding) is 3 Mbytes in size. Several minutes would only work if you are listening to very compressed music? Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
pippin wrote: Depends. For studio albums I couldn't care less about lossless since they are all mixed for mp3 these days anyway, so there's no difference. Live recordings, however, are a different issue. As a jazz and classical music fan and listener I beg to differ. You are referring only to most popular music. There are still plenty of great sounding jazz and classical music recordings being made that are most definitely not being mixed for mp3 since many of the potential buyers have no idea what an mp3 is, i.e. think middle aged audiophile. Then again these buyers have no idea what lossless is either, in fact all they know are little silver discs played back on overpriced and out dated players. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
magiccarpetride wrote: Why music industry chose to go with a different model, whereby they would mass produce and distribute copies of the recorded performance, is a curious fact that remains kind of difficult to explain. Actually, it is quite easy to explain. The recorded music industry came directly from the music publishing industry. It wasn't until the 1940s that records started outselling sheet music. It's impossible to use the movie model you describe to monetize sheet music. People buy sheet music so they can play the song on their own instrument in their home. Sheet music sales to the public was a big deal that dated back to 1880, when industry started the mass production of upright pianos for the home market. The song After The Ball by Charles Harris sold around 2 million copies in 1892 and millions more in the years after. (Piano rolls for player pianos was also a big seller,) Before TV, only the rich could afford a movie projector for their home, so the idea of mass distribution of films was an impossibility in the old days. However, record players were quite affordable for the middle class, as were records. The transition of the mass market from sheet music to records was quite natural, plus radio broadcasting had already established the public's expectation that music in their home was a given, whether by broadcast or record. mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
mlsstl wrote: Actually, it is quite easy to explain. The recorded music industry came directly from the music publishing industry. It wasn't until the 1940s that records started outselling sheet music. It's impossible to use the movie model you describe to monetize sheet music. People buy sheet music so they can play the song on their own instrument in their home. Sheet music sales to the public was a big deal that dated back to 1880, when industry started the mass production of upright pianos for the home market. The song After The Ball by Charles Harris sold around 2 million copies in 1892 and millions more in the years after. (Piano rolls for player pianos were also big sellers,) Before TV, only the rich could afford a movie projector for their home, so the idea of mass distribution of films was an impossibility in the old days. However, record players were quite affordable for the middle class, as were records. The transition of the mass market from sheet music to records was quite natural, plus radio broadcasting had already established the public's expectation that music in their home was a given, whether by broadcast or record. Very well stated and AFAIK accurate as well. Thank you. ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Letter to Music Pirates from NPR
bakker_be wrote: as a european music lover, i mostly object to the so-called convenience of itunes or any other service: It's almost impossible for me to get good music legally + lossless. Quite a lot of the stuff on hdtracks for instance is interesting to me, but strictly speaking i'm forbidden to buy it, as i'm not a us citizen. The offerings of linn etc are somewhat too esoteric for my tastes, and there's only so much classical music i can take. This means that the music industry is forcing me to keep buying physical media, which i then have to rip, tag, scan for replaygain, scan for musicip ... I still do this, but a whole lot less than i'd like to, because: -i only have so much storage space for physical media -it's not convenient -i can't buy from the comfort of my couch at night when the kids are asleep ... This issue isn't caused by the industry alone, the artists as well play a role in it. Bands all over the world tweet about the release of their new albums, and about when they'll be available in itunes, but when you directly ask them about buying in flac, there's nothing but radio silence. Metallica is (partly) an exception to this: Almost any show of the last 10 years or so is available for sale as a soundboard recording, in both flac mp3, right on their tour site, a couple of days after the performance. No studio material however. I've bought a lot of those already, most recently the recording of the show i went to in belgium on may 28th and the 4 shows for their 30th birthday. I think we (the public in general, squeezebox users in particular) should all begin pestering any musician we can get access too to begin making lossless files available. The success of itunes proves that people still want to pay, but what if nobody sells what you want to buy? [quote= RussellMrgn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29655 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95541 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
