Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Disable WiFi without Sounccheck's TT
Julf wrote: You can turn it off by ssh-ing into the touch, and doing iwconfig wlan0 txpower off. That is not a permanent setting, but it allows you to compare the sound with and without sound. If you really hear a difference, under blind listening conditions, you can make it permanent by editing /etc/init.d/rc5.local. I am pretty sure there is no difference in sound, and if there is, it wouldn't be a continuous change, but an occasional blip, as the Touch does (according to John Swenson) turn off the wireless when not in use, but it wakes up occasionally to check for network traffic. Thanks Julf, will try it to see the difference. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102403 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Disable WiFi without Sounccheck's TT
Would it be possible to disable WiFi in SBT as I am using ethernet. I have EDO installed and I do not want to use TT3.0 to disable WiFi. Any alternatives?. I am under the assumption disabling WiFi would improve sound quality. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102403 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
I am currently using default buffer option in EDO with HRT Music Streamer II+. Not sure what the other options are meant for. Any suggestion which is the best buffer option to use with HRT DAC. I mostly use flac and WAV. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Fidelizer SBT.. Why should it work?
Soundcheck, in his thread, suggests using TCPOptimizer's 'optimal' settings. Even this does not affect SBT playback? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Have anyone tried setting RWin value to 1073741823 This changed the sound from SBT for good in my system. courtesy: http://touchsgotrythm.blogspot.co.uk/ lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Can I put this over TT 3.0 and EDO 0.7 or should I start with a vanilla SBT? Any one tried with TT 3.0 + EDO 0.7 OR do they overlap. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NAS versus PC - any sound quality difference?
Have anyone tried WoL (Wake-on-LAN). Does it benefit sound from LMS/SBT? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95276 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Jacky wrote: I have also made exactly this before, however, has failed to me there because I had forgotten the sync order after replacing jive_alsa file. I deleted the existing jive_alsa. Copied 0.6 version, changed the file access, then rebooted. Am I missing the sync, Not sure what is this sync step. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
JohnSwenson wrote: When changing files the changes go into a RAM buffer rather than immediately onto the disk (flash in this case). When the buffer gets full it gets written to the disk. Thus if you make changes to files and just unplug the Touch those changes do not get written to the disk. The sync command writes the buffer to the disk, it syncs up the disk to the buffer. So if you make changes and reboot the touch by pulling the plug you MUST use a sync command first, otherwise your changes may not show up (or even worse, partially show up). The sync command is typed at the command line like any other linux command (over your SSH connection with PuTTY or whatever you are using). The reboot command automatically does a sync, but those of us that have been doing unix/linux for a long time have gotten into the habit of typing a sync before rebooting no matter what. John S. Thanks John. I use tt -rbt. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Triode wrote: sync and reboot... Is there any special step to sync? or just reboot? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Does order of installation make any difference? EDO 0.6 followed by TT3.0 ? or TT3.0 followed by EDO 0.6 lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Once turned off, how to turn on if needed? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Anyone experienced EDO adding digital glare to 16/44 files? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
JohnSwenson wrote: I have a HRT Music StreamerII (not the +), it works very well with Triodes plugin and a hub. Adding TT3.0 significantly improves the sound, with this combination it's getting astonishingly good. (it's not the best, my homebuilt DAC still blows it away). The II with TT3.0 is sounding better than several other way more expensive S/PDIF input DACs I have. (except for my own design -- I'm not biased am I?) I had to do a little work to get TT3.0 to work with it, I had to set the buffer to over 5000, and I had to change some of the priority settings. The esiest way to change the priorities was to just turn them off all together. I didn't have time to figure out which one caused a problem. I tested the screen off part of TT3.0 and it didn't make any difference so I left the screen on. The part of TT3.0 that seemed to make the difference was the kernal settings, when I implemented just them I got the same sound improvement. John S. John, I have placed my order for HRT Music Streamer II+, hence very interested to learn the changes to your system with HRT. I have: - Installed EDO - Installed TT3.0 over it - Changed priorities in TT file to Logitech default - Made the changes suggested by SBGK on the various .lua files - My buffer setting in the .lua files are 4200 - Disconnected screen - Removed Toslink on SBT You are also suggesting kernel settings change. Can you share what the kernel changes are?. Also what buffer size is best. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Triode wrote: I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board I've just posted a new app to the repro for Squeezebox Touch - this provides an alternative to the built in Screen Off screensaver which disables some of the processing associated with the screen when the screen is off. It does the same as TT screen off + also disables some internals to the squeezeplay application related to rendering the screen when it is off (reducing cpu load for scrolling text etc when the screen is off). The intention is you may want to try it as a when playing screensaver which will bank the screen after the delay and hence use less cpu power. Whether this has an impact on the audio quality is unproven and the reason I am posting here... To install: On the player goto 3rd Party Apps, unselect recommended Apps only and then select Display Off [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. At the limit of my simple scope's gain I can see noise which is related to cpu activity - I believe looking at this, that disabling the screen does have a measurable impact, but it is very much at the limit of what I can see and well below the normal noise floor of the analog output. Whether this impacts what you can hear is a completely different matter] Can this be installed over EDO and TT3.0 lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Mnyb wrote: No and No . Server decoding can actually be helpful for lossy formats, an mp3 decoder like lame works and sounds better than the onboard options this effect is not always audible on all mp3's btw so no panic . But for lossles formats like FLAC no way ! However if you use ALAC or AIFF Touch can be buggy and some files like 24/96 won't work properly . If you have droves of 24/96 ALAC or aiff files you might set those to server decoding, just to make them work in all circumstances ( if they work sound is the same here to ) I currently have LMS - Advanced - File Types - all decoders except PCM disabled. Do you think setting them to LMS defaults is a better option?. I have 30% FLAC, 50% WAV and 20% 24/96 materials. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transcode and upsample at once?
Kuro wrote: I want to test the sonic quality of SBT+EDO. So far, server side decode of FLAC instead of client side decode on SBT has provent to be better sounding for redbook material. I want to see if taking it to 96K would make it sound even better. Do you mean decoding FLAC and WAV on the LMS server by setting Server Setting - Advanced - File types - setting decoder to disabled except for PCM?. I heard setting decoding on server is really not beneficial. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95051 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
Is running Fidelizer (or other server mods/tools) on the LMS server system beneficial in any way to EDO app or the SBT its Also, is server decoding to PCM helpful? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind listening - TT3.0, HWmods and Teddy Pardo PSU
For those running vanilla SBT, do you run any mods on the server system...like Fidelizer, registry changes etc? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94418 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] There is life after the Soundcheck TT mods..
Enjoying the sound out of vanila SBT on wireless. One problem though - After moving the SBT from wired to wireless, actions from squeezebox app on iphone is slow to respond - takes a 3-4 seconds fro SBT to respond. Any idea why this could happen? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94770 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind listening - TT3.0, HWmods and Teddy Pardo PSU
Returned to vanilla STB wired to Windows 8 server. All Modem/Router/Switch have linear PS. SBT has CIAudio PS. WOW!, way to go until TT4.0. More organic sound, fuller lower end, no harsh...SBT sounds pleasant now! lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94418 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Triode's USB 24/192 plug in - sound quality impressions
JohnSwenson wrote: ... The part of TT3.0 that seemed to make the difference was the kernal settings, when I implemented just them I got the same sound improvement. John S. Can you give the details on how implement the kernel settings alone in TT3.0 lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94855 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blind listening - TT3.0, HWmods and Teddy Pardo PSU
NoRoDa wrote: The tests: WLAN SBT factory w/Teddy VS WIRED SBT/HW/TT3.0/TEDDY - SBT factory preferred in all repetitions WLAN SBT factory w/Teddy VS WLAN SBT factory + HW w/Teddy - Not possible to hear a difference Toshiba HD DVD digital output VS WLAN SBT factory w/Teddy - We believe we heard a small difference, but it was not clear enough to be able to point out what we listened to. -- Not possible to hear a clear difference WLAN SBT factory w/Teddy VS WLAN SBT factory Woriginal PSU. - Clear difference. Comment: Some may actually enjoy the original PSU with it's dynamic'n'fresh sound, more noise and more energy. But after several repetitions the preferred while listening blind was the Teddy. Both calmer and with a greater sense of dynamic range. Regards Rolf Did you make any changes on the system running LMS, like running Fidelizer? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94418 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enhanced Digital Output SBT App the Law of Unintended Consequences
magiccarpetride wrote: I have no idea what you're talking about. You can refer to TT3.0 thread. Soundcheck suggests use of Fidelizer on the server while SBGK suggests Process Lasso. These changes the systems audio thread priorities. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94606 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TT Buffer Tweak post Enhanced digital output
eduardoo wrote: Having installed Triode's enhanced digital output tweak app, my SBT is now happily playing high hi-rez material. However, I notice that the buffer setting (checked using tt -s) has been changed to 2 and I can no longer change it via tt -b N (I did it, it says it was doing it, reboot, tt -s and it still says 2). While my SBT is sounding pretty nice now and it is still controversial as to whether the buffer tweak does anything (I hear that it does), I am just wondering if the buffer is still tweakable and whether is is worth it given all the other changes already made. Thanks. Heard Triode mods wipes off TT3.0. Can you mail the sequence of install you did. Whats the difference you find with Triode + TT3.0 as against TT3.0 alone. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94632 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Enhanced Digital Output SBT App the Law of Unintended Consequences
magiccarpetride wrote: ...Of course, I proceeded to fit TT3.0 and SBGK's mods on top of this configuration, which then pushed SBT to even higher levels. Do you use SBGK's priorities with Fidelizer Or you use the Process Lasso and SBGK's registry settings. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94606 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
NoRoDa wrote: Well, I've tried to listen without seeing to a factory SBT vs a modded one with TT3.0 and got the guts to tell about it ;) Rgds Don't know about your setup, I could tell the difference between them, But which one sounds better is a different story!. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride wrote: Would that be the factory in China? nope, the one close to your lane. lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
sckramer;695217 Wrote: I'll start uploading a few pics just start unsoldering 2 larger tabs at the same time torqe the black plastic housing off with pliers-- the LED will stay on the board-- take that off next, also you can put this back together (its not destroyed) Tried this mod this weekend. Disconnected the screen too. Worth the try!. Much reduced digital harsh/noise, better imaging, depth and details. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
sckramer;695217 Wrote: I'll start uploading a few pics just start unsoldering 2 larger tabs at the same time torqe the black plastic housing off with pliers-- the LED will stay on the board-- take that off next, also you can put this back together (its not destroyed) Thanks much sckramer, I will be trying this DIY today, hopefully my soldering skills are good enough for this. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
lake_eleven;694971 Wrote: can someone guide me to some links on the diy to disconnect toslink?? any help on disabling toslink output in touch -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
sckramer;694591 Wrote: I recommend using 2.0 or wait for Klaus to release 4.0 -- also leave the audio buffer mod disabled (with 2.0) also --unsolder the toslink!-- this made a very big difference relative to everything in this scope of things Can someone guide me to some links on the DIY to disconnect toslink?? -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
sckramer;694591 Wrote: .also --unsolder the toslink!-- this made a very big difference relative to everything in this scope of things can you elaborate how you did this. May be a pic -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
lake_eleven;687732 Wrote: Process Lasso expired, still it is running but without the core engine. Does it matter/need to purchase or core engine does not matter. Any suggestions? -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Process Lasso expired, still it is running but without the core engine. Does it matter/need to purchase or core engine does not matter. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Can someone post the default values for this registry setting. I want to try the default registry values with Fidelizer. I am now running with TT3.0 + Logitech Default prio/buffer + Process Lazzo without Fidelizer. Sounds good though. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\A udio] -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
pandasharka;685562 Wrote: Surely that's obvious. If he starts a new thread it will be a) devoid of content b) require followers to clad up in tupperware c) take him further away from reality than already. SBGK clearly has the belief that he is helping Soundcheck develop something that will be sold for $millions back to Logitech. Get real. If Klaus had developed the silver software bullet do you think he would be posting here still? And clearly from the feedback of some it's not there yet. Maybe it never will be. Remember, you cannot make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Dos'nt matter. SBGK's finding of default priorities along with TT 3.0 and default buffer made a big improvement over ootb TT 3.0. I believe whoever tried the default priorities, irrespective of the their system configuration, would silently agree. He deserves to be here in the thread. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;684331 Wrote: these settings are better, more bass and fuller sound, think this is what fidelizer is doing ie tweaking mmcss and priority settings. based on pro audio profile, but with increased background priority and much higher clock rate. Wasapi uses pro audio, so here you have settings better than wasapi and all for free, that's if you can be arsed to try it. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\Audio] Scheduling Category=High SFIO Priority=Normal Background Only=True Priority=dword:001a Clock Rate=dword:0064 GPU Priority=dword:0008 Affinity=dword: BackgroundPriority=dword:001a the settings for non binary readers are high, normal, true, 26, 100, 8, all, 26 respectively.. Do Fidelizer need to be started even after altering these registry values? -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;683810 Wrote: The start up process is start pc, start fidelizer, start squeezeserver... Dont you use TCPOptimizer or it is not needed with your settings. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
lake_eleven;684451 Wrote: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile\Tasks\A udio] Scheduling Category=High SFIO Priority=Normal Background Only=True Priority=dword:001a Clock Rate=dword:0064 GPU Priority=dword:0008 Affinity=dword: BackgroundPriority=dword:001a CAN SOMEONE SEND ME THE DEFAULT VALUES FOR THE ABOVE KEYS IN WINDOWS 7. The above setting makes the sound sharp compared to using Fidelizer. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Cannot set CPU affinity to more than 0. All other values are disabled. Any ideas?. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;680953 Wrote: just switched back to the defaults, much better, more depth and weight to the sound together with something that seems to grab me emotionally about the music. SBGK - can you share what will go between PIDJIVEALSA=`pidof jive_alsa` #def: 45 and } in tt file to get to the default setting. Think your final buffer setting is 2. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
RGibran;680824 Wrote: Bingo! Exactly the reason I'm sticking with them. Can I get an AMEN? :-) Happy New Year everyone... RG Oh, so how to get to this base(OOTB) setting. Is it to just change the tt file with a new set of values. Can someone pls give those default settings. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride;680205 Wrote: in my case, with the upgrade to the power cable -- I've just installed a new Shunyata power cable, which was a revelation May we know which Shunyata cord is that and where was it inserted in the chain. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
magiccarpetride;680247 Wrote: I'm using headless Mac Mini for the Squeezebox media server. This is a dedicated music serving box, with nothing else running on it. ... Am running Eval copy of Windows 8 on a dedicated laptop. I use TCPOptimizer and Fidelizer prior to starting SB Media Server. Anyone knows how to run a HP laptop headless?. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;679395 Wrote: .you can try this with the settings below and changing loadavg to 97 and jivealsa to 96, the sound changes to the TT3.0 sound. Should I change PRIOLOADAVG=50 to PRIOLOADAVG=97 and PRIOJIVEALSA=45 to PRIOJIVEALSA=96 in your latest settings?, or use as it is listed. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
SBGK;678234 Wrote: Hi I only added those setting to p48 today, so you may not have them SBGK - Can you pls share what goes in the TT file now with your changes to p48. Thanks. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Confused on what to set in the TT file. SBGK, can you pls tell us what to set in the TT file and in which section. Thanks for the details. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
soundcheck;670515 Wrote: For those who still want to squeeze more out of everything, try a better power supply on that router/bridge/range/extender/hubCheers I replaced the wal-warts on Linksys router and switch to PE power supply and Jerome Labs PS respectively. It did made a huge improvements though these are basic PSs. Any suggestions on non-expensive better quality PS?? -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
cut-throat;669424 Wrote: attention starved? He brings up valid points about networking, unfortunately it's taken personal when it shouldn't. I say keep up the debate in this thread it's healthy.+2 +3 -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
soundcheck;668177 Wrote: .Beside that I guess that not very many people follow my HW and networking advise. As mentioned before the HW (PS, board mods, SPDIF mods), the network and the server will have a great impact on your sound too. I consider these mods as important as the SW part.. +1 TCP Optimizer: I have done this once. I think the optimizations are permanent on the system (not lost when server PC restarted). Fidelizer: I set the 'Audiophile' level optimization instead of extreme. Is this ok?. Are the changes done by Fidelizer permanent on the server PC, or should this be run on every PC restart??. Recommendations pls!. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
lovejoy;667285 Wrote: So I did another factory reset and re-installed TT3.0 and weirdly, before I even got the chance to change the buffer setting I was convinced that it sounded better than it did the first time around.. I redid the whole step again, it definitely sounds better than TT2.0. Excellent improvement with much lesser digital harsh. Tried spdif setting of 51, sounds thin. So went back to 40. Changed buffer to 2 and 5. Sounds harsh in my system instead of being smooth. SO set it back to 4000. TT3.0 is definitely improved SBT over TT2.0. Thanks Klaus. If there is way to make the sound a little more smooth (less digital more analog like) it would be great! -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0
Mr Bellow;667193 Wrote: ...The first impressions with TT3.0 in my system are not positive : the sound is emptied , much more digital , too much highs. The sound is more defined and detailed but the whole impression is something like a little radio Thanks Klaus for the great work. Same initial impressions for me. The highs are very digitized. There is a very good detail in the lower mid bass. But the overall sound is very light as it is eclipsed by highs. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
reverendo;666902 Wrote: Klaus, I had a look at your blog. Maybe I'm thick, but I didn't find the TT3.0. Just put my system up again after moving. Am using a Welborne Labs PS which made a great difference. hope hearing from you best regards and thanks in advance André You can see it here: http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/2011/01/soundchecks-squeezebox-touch-toolbox-20.html BTW, you use analog or digital out from Touch, as I hear digital out is not affected by upgraded PS changes. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Great to hear the update from Klaus. BTW, will 3.0 include the thread priority changes. Should the existing rCS file changes be rolled back?. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Optical (toslink) connection
Phil Leigh;661835 Wrote: The TOSLINK will not interfere with the coax BUT the coax provides an electrical connection and the whole benefit of TOSLINK is to remove that connection and provide galvanic isolation! So... Only connect one cable. Hope this is only when connecting from an output device like Touch. Connecting multiple digital inputs to a external DAC should not be affected??? -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90211 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Headless Touch
Most of the touch owners by now have used Soundcheck's TT2.0. Which means Touch is by now reduced to pure receiver. Then why we have the display still connected. JohnSwenson has mentioned that the the headless Touch with other mods sounds better that a good DAC. Is is possible to create a script that bypasses Touch's internal scripts and enables SSH by default, may be also connects to an ethernet. There would be many experts who would have done it. It is possible to share it for the benefit of untechnical and aspiring audiophiles like myself! -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90739 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Thanks alec_cat -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Can someone post the consolidated rcs file changes - for non-tech guys like myself. There are so many suggestions given, not sure which one to use. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Setting jive_alsa to 55 enhances the entire sound stage, in my system it is a welcome change. Increasing SPDIF priority is what changes the equation of the music. It enhances certain high frequencies, thereby creating a sense of spaciality and darker background. But as you listen it is fatiguing and more analytical. I feel the sense of music is lost while the sense of instruments is more. I set SPDIF to 41, hence not losing the bass and also giving it a higher priority than the other processes at 40. I till now did not hear any difference in setting the SPDIF priority to 40 or 41, but think there will be some thing good which I do not hear. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
BTW, I checked both with SPDIF out to my Anthem-pre directly and also with DACMagic in between, both exhibit similar behavior. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
As I increase the SPDIF priority, there is a slight decrease in bass for each incremental value. Did anyone else note it? Iam settling at 41. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
lcrim, My assumption is this mod affects digital out only. You mentioned you use analog out from one of your touches. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Resetting SPDIF priority to 40, could not take any other value due to harshness. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Iam on version 7.5.4. The jive_alsa pid is 706. Did chrt -f -p 55 706 chrt -f -p 51 367 The brightness glare seem to have gone!. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I disabled SPDIF priority by setting its value to 40. Left other priority changes as suggested in the mod. Think(?) its better now without much edginess around particular high frequencies. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
I have reset the SPDIF priority to 40, while all other values are as per the mod. I still feel a better sense of music - may be I am benefiting from the other priority changes. Is this is a correct assumption -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
IMO, this mod is a very useful mod that allows users to fine-tune their system. At the same time, can this be considered as a non-audiophile modification, similar to using the treble button as it modifies the sound output from the touch than merely reproducing the recording. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Agree with HumanMedia. Any value above 44 is fatiguing within 5 mins of listening. but it does give more spatiality. Experimenting values between 41 and 44, may be will set it back to 40. Thanks dynaudiorules for this very interesting mod. -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Squeezebox Touch Mod
Hi dynaudiorules, If I set the spdif value to 40, will I still get the benefits of other thread priority changes?. Any value other than 40 seem to sound bright in my already bright system (Touch(spdif)-Anthem pre-Parasound amp-Paradigm) -- lake_eleven lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89359 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
