Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
asplundj wrote: > Any news on how to get this app to work when using an app to control the > touch? I've found something that helps a bit. If after start up of the Touch, I press play from the Touch IR remote so that I see this symbol: 21829 Then Display Off works fine after that with the phone app and web UI. No need to use the IR remote after that initial play. I've not found another way to solve the issue for any length of time. HTH, Darren +---+ |Filename: touch-play.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=21829| +---+ Check it, add to it! http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Hi Triode, First of all, thank you for all your work on those nice applets (particularly EDO) and pointers on this forum. I am also using your screen off applet and am also running into the issue of backlit being kept on if the Touch is in any way controlled by an SB controller or Squeezebox app, that is, the screen remains blank, but you can see like coming from the screen. Is there any way to fix this? Thanks. eduardoo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Does this app work with the Radio models? Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio + remote Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker Cubieboard + Fedora 18 + LMS 7.8 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
castalla wrote: Does this app work with the Radio models? Don't have a UE model to test, but it appears to work with my SB Radio. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Apesbrain wrote: Don't have a UE model to test, but it appears to work with my SB Radio. Thanks. Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio + remote Logitech UE Smart Radio Raspberry Pi + Squeezeplug LMS + Squeezelite - Logitech Mini Boombox speaker Cubieboard + Fedora 18 + LMS 7.8 + Squeezelite - Soundwave SW100 bluetooth speaker O2 Joggler + SqpOS + Aune X2 T-amp + Mordaunt Short ms-3.40 speakers castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Hi Triode, I know everyone's moved on, but I just stumbled across this thread... I still use TT2.0 (3.0 doesn't sound as good for me) -- as a front end in this config I just can't beat it! Anyway thanks! This display off applet seems to work good... nice to have the screen back. So don't need to run the TT screen off correct? Thanks! CiAudio VDC-SB - Touch (TT 2.0 mods, removed toslink, disconnected screen, buf:2) PSaudio DLIII DAC (Cullen 4 mods) - PSaudio Trio C-100 Amp (Cullen 3 mods) Energy Veritas 2.2i speakers (mundorf silver oil capacitors, inductor, and resistor mods) Martin Logan Depth i (x2) (xover at 35Hz, +2db boost at 20-25Hz) Cardas power cables - PSaudio Duet - Cardas clear light interconnect -- black cat XV-ULTRA digital cable - Audioquest slate biwire spkr cables sckramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20311 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Hi Triode, I've been reading about your quest to build quality music, and also came accross this forum entry. I've been searching for the Display Off screensaver applet to be implemented on a Touch-like device, because I think it can serve my purpose. As I didn't find it, I reverted to the LMS based powersave plugin from Jason Holtzapple. This tool works with intervals of 15 minutes, so I'm consuming a bit of energy with no real need to dos so. Is the display off screensaver app still available? Berns's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60795 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Any news on how to get this app to work when using an app to control the touch? asplundj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=53571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Same behavior with Logitech's own Squeezebox Controller App (Android). Zombie wrote: I have noticed the same when I use the Duet controller to my Touch I finally figured out what's going on with the backlight. If I use only the Touch to control everything, your app works perfectly. But, I use iPeng on an iPad, for the most part, and any input from iPad/iPeng triggers the backlight (but not the screen) to go on. The backlight will stay on until I utilize the Touch's screen in any way---then, after the 10 sec. delay, backlight (and screen, of course) turn off travelfotografer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
thanks, I was looking in the web browser site instead of the player itself demetri_j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
I have noticed the same when I use the Duet controller to my Touch I finally figured out what's going on with the backlight. If I use only the Touch to control everything, your app works perfectly. But, I use iPeng on an iPad, for the most part, and any input from iPad/iPeng triggers the backlight (but not the screen) to go on. The backlight will stay on until I utilize the Touch's screen in any way---then, after the 10 sec. delay, backlight (and screen, of course) turn off Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Demetri_j It's in Settings Advanced Applet Installer. Then you have to UNcheck the box named Recommended Apps Only and then touch it. Once you get the list, you'll see Display Off. Cheers, rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Hi Triode, I finally figured out what's going on with the backlight. If I use only the Touch to control everything, your app works perfectly. But, I use iPeng on an iPad, for the most part, and any input from iPad/iPeng triggers the backlight (but not the screen) to go on. The backlight will stay on until I utilize the Touch's screen in any way---then, after the 10 sec. delay, backlight (and screen, of course) turn off. So, something to do with the iPad/iPeng commands is triggering the backlight. Any thoughts on how to fix this (other than not using iPeng/iPad which I do about 99% of the time)?? Merry Christmas and thank you... rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
which app is it exactly, I'm a nube. Does it have a name, author name? demetri_j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Hi Triode, I seem to be having an odd problem with this app. I've installed and reinstalled it several times. The problem is that each time I install it, for a short time after installation, the backlight turns off along with the screen. Then at some point, not long after installation, the backlight starts remaining on (more obvious at night, of course), even though the screen turns off. So, I have a glow-in-the-dark Touch. I have the delay set to 10 sec. and have the screen off box ticked in Screensavers for all of the states---when playing, when paused, when stopped. Any ideas as to what's causing the backlight to go off for a bit and then come back on and remain that way?Thanks... rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
OK, looked in the LMS, but found it on the Touch menu. Thanks. Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Can't find the app. Is it removed? Zombie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=25009 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Zombie wrote: Can't find the app. Is it removed? No - its still on the 3rd party list. You should look on the player Apps Gallery, 3rd Party Apps Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Installed and working - thanks. I haven't noticed any improvement in sound quality, but it doesn't sound any worse. I'll have to bring the other Touch downstairs and link it up to the DAC and synchronise playback to enable A/B comparison. T'aint happening tonight Chris :) Stratmangler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20387 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Triode wrote: I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board I've just posted a new app to the repro for Squeezebox Touch - this provides an alternative to the built in Screen Off screensaver which disables some of the processing associated with the screen when the screen is off. It does the same as TT screen off + also disables some internals to the squeezeplay application related to rendering the screen when it is off (reducing cpu load for scrolling text etc when the screen is off). The intention is you may want to try it as a when playing screensaver which will bank the screen after the delay and hence use less cpu power. Whether this has an impact on the audio quality is unproven and the reason I am posting here... To install: On the player goto 3rd Party Apps, unselect recommended Apps only and then select Display Off [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. At the limit of my simple scope's gain I can see noise which is related to cpu activity - I believe looking at this, that disabling the screen does have a measurable impact, but it is very much at the limit of what I can see and well below the normal noise floor of the analog output. Whether this impacts what you can hear is a completely different matter] Hi Triode, Just to clarify, am I correct in that for your app to function when music is playing, the Display Off option should be selected under ScreensaversWhen Playing? Thanks, rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
rgro wrote: Hi Triode, Just to clarify, am I correct in that for your app to function when music is playing, the Display Off option should be selected under ScreensaversWhen Playing? Thanks, Yes, and probably set the timeout to 10 seconds. After the 10 seconds timeout, this will cause the screen to blank by turning off the backlight and disabling the display in the same was as TT3 and also stopping the render of the screen which happens within the squeezeplay application. The later means than if the display would have shown scrolling text then it will not be updated taking cpu time even though you can't see it. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Triode wrote: Yes, and probably set the timeout to 10 seconds. After the 10 seconds timeout, this will cause the screen to blank by turning off the backlight and disabling the display in the same was as TT3 and also stopping the render of the screen which happens within the squeezeplay application. The later means than if the display would have shown scrolling text then it will not be updated taking cpu time even though you can't see it. Got it...thanks. It seems to work just fine. I do prefer the flexibility of being able to access the Touch's screen (though I mainly use iPeng) without needing to give up the potential noise benefit of having the screen off. This app does away with the slight inconvenience of having to ssh into tt 3.0 in order to turn the screen back on/off when I need to get at the Touch's menus. rgro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
lake_eleven wrote: Once turned off, how to turn on if needed? By touching the screen or using the remote control - it acts as any other screensaver in that it only triggers after a timeout on inactivity. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Once turned off, how to turn on if needed? lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
lake_eleven wrote: Once turned off, how to turn on if needed? It's a screensaver. So it will only be activated after certain period of inactivity based on your configuration kiat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30044 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Triode wrote: I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. Does this explain why so many of us report an improvement in SQ using 16/44 material? Covenant's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Covenant wrote: Triode wrote: I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. Does this explain why so many of us report an improvement in SQ using 16/44 material? The lower noise floor at the analog output is only because the dac is not running - which looks to generate quite a lot of low level noise for 0 output. When it is turned off then this is much lower. However I think the impact could be more significant in that with the dac on at full volume then the power rails are not only powering the dac but also seeing some level of signal related variation. With the dac off this is not there and there should be direct no audio signal related modulation on the power rails. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
lake_eleven wrote: Can this be installed over EDO and TT3.0 Yes, but not the screen off part of TT3 as it is intended to to that function (and slightly more) tied to the screensaver activation. Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board I've just posted a new app to the repro for Squeezebox Touch - this provides an alternative to the built in Screen Off screensaver which disables some of the processing associated with the screen when the screen is off. It does the same as TT screen off + also disables some internals to the squeezeplay application related to rendering the screen when it is off (reducing cpu load for scrolling text etc when the screen is off). The intention is you may want to try it as a when playing screensaver which will bank the screen after the delay and hence use less cpu power. Whether this has an impact on the audio quality is unproven and the reason I am posting here... To install: On the player goto 3rd Party Apps, unselect recommended Apps only and then select Display Off [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. At the limit of my simple scope's gain I can see noise which is related to cpu activity - I believe looking at this, that disabling the screen does have a measurable impact, but it is very much at the limit of what I can see and well below the normal noise floor of the analog output. Whether this impacts what you can hear is a completely different matter] Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Display Off screensaver
Triode wrote: I will post this here as its clearly unproven and something to discuss on the audiophile board I've just posted a new app to the repro for Squeezebox Touch - this provides an alternative to the built in Screen Off screensaver which disables some of the processing associated with the screen when the screen is off. It does the same as TT screen off + also disables some internals to the squeezeplay application related to rendering the screen when it is off (reducing cpu load for scrolling text etc when the screen is off). The intention is you may want to try it as a when playing screensaver which will bank the screen after the delay and hence use less cpu power. Whether this has an impact on the audio quality is unproven and the reason I am posting here... To install: On the player goto 3rd Party Apps, unselect recommended Apps only and then select Display Off [As an aside - I note that with the EDO app installed and the internal digital out selected so that the analog output is not enabled, if you measure the analog outputs on an oscillocope then you see a much lower noise floor than when the analog dac is enabled. At the limit of my simple scope's gain I can see noise which is related to cpu activity - I believe looking at this, that disabling the screen does have a measurable impact, but it is very much at the limit of what I can see and well below the normal noise floor of the analog output. Whether this impacts what you can hear is a completely different matter] Can this be installed over EDO and TT3.0 lake_eleven's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48979 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
