Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Wow, finally a norwegian product mentioned here http://www.electrocompaniet.com/ -- Anne Squeezebox 3 > Stereovox XV2 > Bryston B100-DA SST > Carlsson OA50.2 > Sennheiser HD580 Precision Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi SC53. I never heard of Electrocompaniet before. Did you audition it before you bought it? If so where? I can't find any dealers in the Northeast that carries them. How does it compare to the Benchmark? -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi Duke, in your quest for a "warmer" external DAC try to find a used Electrocompaniet ECD-1. I found one for $1100 on Audiogon and use it with my Squeezebox and previously owned Olive music server. I like it better than the Benchmark DAC I also have for its (to me) more lush, warmer sound with digital music files. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi Dave. Thanks for your input. I have similar experiences with my setup. About 20% of my CDs sound like the music was made for my system. About 70% sound pretty good. About 10%, especially the some older, remastered CDs, sound terrible. I have just recently been getting serious about this hobby (i.e. big bucks) and I can see that the search for the perfect system will never end. -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi Anne. The Apollo uses a Wolfson WM8740 sigma-delta converter. Stereophile measured the Apollo's noise at -90dB and the distortion at -80dB. -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
What dac do they use in the Apollo ? Any experience with the Audio Note dacs ? -- Anne Squeezebox 3 > Stereovox XV2 > Bryston B100-DA SST > Carlsson OA50.2 > Sennheiser HD580 Precision Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
duke43j;293585 Wrote: > Hi Dave. Have you compared the Krell to the MC402 yet? When I bought my > amp the KAV-2250 was on my short list. I chose the Classe CA-2100 > because I thought it had a smoother sound with my Thiel speakers. I > never got to listen to a McIntosh. > Its interesting that you like the Apollo better than the TP. I was > hoping that there was a reasonably priced DAC out there that would be > at least as good as the Apollo. I, too, love the convenience of the > Squeezebox, but I dont enjoy the sound as much as I do from the > Apollo. My goal is to get the same (or better) sound from a > Squeezebox/DAC and then sell the Apollo. From what I've experienced > (see above), almost any DVD/CD player paired with a good DAC will > produce a very good sound. > Regards, Bob Bob, I haven't compared yet. I heard a high-end Mc system in the store on Focals and it sounded great. The Krell has a different "house" sound. I originally bought the Krell due to space considerations and didn't think the sound of the Mc integrateds was all that good. The Krell made about 20% of my music sound out of this world - I mean just delightful. The other 80% I had varying degrees of success. Anything with compression or boosted highs - wow - the Krell let you know it and not in a good way. I concluded one needs $5k or greater in the source before the Krell going to sound good over a large range of recordings. Basically you need a source that's true to good recordings and fixes or at least smooths over the bad ones. The TP doesn't fit the bill for that purpose. After I bought the MF, it made most of my recordings sound good but I lost that steller 20% and missed it. I don't care about coloration as long as it sounds sweet and musical hence my choice to move to the Mc. Further I'm going to try to TP straight into the amp bi-passing a pre. I think you're going to be feeling the pain with Theil's just as I do/did with my Aerials. Both are what I would call detailed speakers. I've heard Theils sound good with tubes and smooth sources but suffered in the same way as the Krell caused when they've been connected staright to an accurate source. I think you made the right choice with Classe' for your current setup. But, yeah, any digital input to a good DAC would be ok IMO. The DAC is where the rubber meets the road. It's going to come down to the DAC. I'm trying to avoid an outboard DAC but the next one I would try would be a MF Tri-vista dac. Got to have something to massage the highs! regards, David -- wireless200 wireless200's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi Dave. Have you compared the Krell to the MC402 yet? When I bought my amp the KAV-2250 was on my short list. I chose the Classe CA-2100 because I thought it had a smoother sound with my Thiel speakers. I never got to listen to a McIntosh. Its interesting that you like the Apollo better than the TP. I was hoping that there was a reasonably priced DAC out there that would be at least as good as the Apollo. I, too, love the convenience of the Squeezebox, but I dont enjoy the sound as much as I do from the Apollo. My goal is to get the same (or better) sound from a Squeezebox/DAC and then sell the Apollo. From what I've experienced (see above), almost any DVD/CD player paired with a good DAC will produce a very good sound. Regards, Bob -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Which brings up another question Do all the Squeezebox compatible websites have about the same quality as Rhapsodys 128 Kb/sec? If not, which offer the best quality streams? -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Hi ModelCitizen. Thanks. I would like to try a Transporter, but I dont see how I can borrow one for a couple of days. I really dont want to buy one and return it just to try it out. The audio store didnt have any other DACs that were in my price range. The Mark Levinson was on consignment for $1500, but it didnt have the warm tonality that I prefer. They did say that they would call me if other DACs came in. Hi Anne. The interesting part about the 128 Kb/sec streaming files was that they were Rhapsody downloads, not channels. I tried to compare the Rhapsody tracks with same ones I already had on CD or as Flac. To my disappointment I discovered that the Squeezebox doesnt really download 160 Kb/sec WMA files like you would get if you logged on from your computer and played them through the computer speakers. It streams them at 128 Kb/sec. Apparently, the downloaded Squeezebox files are just bookmarks to the files on the Rhapsody website. Do you know if there is a way to get better quality files from Rhapsody using the Squeezebox? -- duke43j duke43j's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15911 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
Lots of users claim increased performance losing the preamp, but I cant live without it. Your remarks on setup 2 and 3 coincides with my experience. Radio stations vary in quality, to say the least, and its not because of the bit rate -- Anne Squeezebox 3 > Stereovox XV2 > Bryston B100-DA SST > Carlsson OA50.2 > Sennheiser HD580 Precision Anne's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox 3 and Mark Levinson DAC
That's great. Very interesting. Well done. It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts about the Transporter too. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46533 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
