Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
Nyal Mellor;637594 Wrote: Hi everyone, I am the US distributor of XTZ Room Analyzer. I've been working on putting up educational material on the different measurements on my website in the Acoustics University section. I'm also writing a white paper with another acoustician, Jeff Hedback, on the acoustic measurement targets for high end audio reproduction which will be released in a few months and is worth keeping an eye out for. All the best, Nyal Great! Will definitely keep my eyes open for that! It would also be great if you could post some illustrative measurements, along with their interpretations, on your website (besides the basic one's). In fact, seeing before and after measurements (after room treatment, system tweaks, etc) would be really helpful! -- sleepysurf main system: touch benchmark dac-1 conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of the 'suncoast audiophile society' (http://www.meetup.com/suncoast-audiophile-society/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
darrenyeats;637602 Wrote: Yes. Of course, damping the space with bass treatments will have a different effect to bass EQ. Each approach will have some effect both in time and frequency response but not an equivalent effect. Darren Precisely ( I know you know this). I was just reminding everyone you can't treat them in isolation. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
These sorts of tools distinguish themselves by identifying time-based issues e.g. RT60 and waterfall. Actually these are the issues I am addressing first (for slightly intuitive reasons) rather than frequency response. (And as an extra I hope FR will get better anyway when the time-based issues are addressed.) Solving time-based problems requires room treatments mostly, I think. I agree with Phil that you should get everything in and live with it for a while first! Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
darrenyeats;637536 Wrote: These sorts of tools distinguish themselves by identifying time-based issues e.g. RT60 and waterfall. Actually these are the issues I am addressing first (for slightly intuitive reasons) rather than frequency response. (And as an extra I hope FR will get better anyway when the time-based issues are addressed.) Solving time-based problems requires room treatments mostly, I think. I agree with Phil that you should get everything in and live with it for a while first! Darren, You can't address time and frequency separately..they are intrinsically inter-linked! :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
Hi everyone, I am the US distributor of XTZ Room Analyzer. I've been working on putting up educational material on the different measurements on my website in the Acoustics University section. I'm also writing a white paper with another acoustician, Jeff Hedback, on the acoustic measurement targets for high end audio reproduction which will be released in a few months and is worth keeping an eye out for. All the best, Nyal -- Nyal Mellor Nyal Mellor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47716 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
Phil Leigh;637539 Wrote: Darren, You can't address time and frequency separately..they are intrinsically inter-linked! :-) Yes. Of course, damping the space with bass treatments will have a different effect to bass EQ. Each approach will have some effect both in time and frequency response but not an equivalent effect. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
tank121;637470 Wrote: Anyone used this ? Any good ? If it is, does anyone own it and live close to Poynton Cheshire ? I'm skint following my room conversion! I use it. It has been very useful figuring out the main problems I need to address in terms of acoustics. For me, the next problem I must address is a 35Hz room mode. I don't think the results from XTZ (or to be fair other measurement techniques I have tried) should be read as totally accurate or the black and white of it. They can point you in the right direction. I am in the middle of sorting out room treatments. Will let you know more later on! Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
You local to me Cheshire. -- tank121 tank121's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
tank121;637474 Wrote: You local to me Cheshire. Sadly not. However, you can pick it up for about 150 pounds. That includes the software and hardware. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
you don't need this stuff. Is the room finished yet? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
tank121;637470 Wrote: Anyone used this ? Any good ? If it is, does anyone own it and live close to Poynton Cheshire ? I'm skint following my room conversion! For me the XTC Room Analyzer consists of my copy (CD or vinyl) of XTC's fantastic English Settlement album. The best tracks for audio evaluation would be: 1) Senses Working Overtime - ability to resolve fine detail as in the background voices singing on the chorus. 2) It's Nearly Africa - bass, both initial attack and control, via the heavy drum beats. Also useful for rhythm and pacing. -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
It's actually the *XTZ* Room Analyzer, and IMHO, a wonderful tool. However, I'm still learning how to interpret all the graphs (especially the full range room response with RT60 calculations). It may not be as sophisticated as some other room analyzer software, but for an all-in-one-box solution, it's quite nice. There is now a U.S. distributor as well... http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/XTZ-Room-Analyzer.html -- sleepysurf main system: touch benchmark dac-1 conrad-johnson ct-5 preamp and premier 350 amp ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. member of the 'suncoast audiophile society' (http://www.meetup.com/suncoast-audiophile-society/) sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] XTC Room Analyzer
I use one , it has a great feature for me in that it suggests parametric filters I can implement to tighten up bass response in my room. I use a very good parametric equaliser (z-sys Rdp-1) in my system. IF you really want to do cheap but very effective sub 500hz room correction and want a great dac/pre whatever , I suggest a KrK ergo. I sort of did a mini review of it at http://www.avforums.co.za/index.php/topic,7685.0.html -- Rodney_Gold TP/Z-sys RDP1 digital Pre/Meridian DSP5500's Or TP/DSP5500's Touch/Emotiva X-DA1 dac/bryston 4bst/Canton Ergo 120 dc SB3/Meridian DSP5000's TP/ Emotiva X-da1/Woo Audio Wa2 Headphone amp/Sehneisser Hd800's Touch/KrK Ergo/KrK VXT8 actives + 10S sub The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88429 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
