RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel

2010-10-02 Thread Linda Norton
I'm glad Elizabeth you gave your info since I didn't have it and you know as
we discussed that I have Manuel de Almeida de Andrade Rodrigues from Sao
Roque as my ggrandfather b. abt. 1855. Also his daugther, my grandmother
Maria do Espirito Santo de Andrade b. 1884 always carrying her name as de
Andrade so my mother always said. I never heard my mother say de Almeida or
even Rodrigues. She has listed on her marriage certificate she is from
Ariffes.
 
Manuel was married to Maria da Gloria from Faja de Baixo. They had four
children: Odelia, Anton, my grandmother and Elise. Odelia married and went
to Canada with two children, Anton never married (spent all the money given
to him) and my grandmother and Elise had 17 children between the both of
them, but 10 of them died. Supposedly my ggrandfather was very wealthy. I
think it was a mill that he owned because some of what was left (equipment)
went to my grandmother and probably the other sisters as a dowry. I just
remember my mother telling me that her nephew who still lives in Ribeira
Grande sold off the last of everything back in the 80's/90's and my mom told
him to keep the money. She said it didn't add up to much supposedly. That's
all I know about her maternal side.
 
I will have to get certificates and see what I can find out. I know that
Celeste helped me when she went there in 07 and found quite a few Manuel
Rodrigues. The only one that was close was Manuel and Marie (twins) March 7,
1896. Manuel de Almeida and Maria Jacintha. Paternal Jose de Almeida and
Maria Joaquina; Maternal Roque Rodrigues and Rosa Jacintha. Close because
it's the only one I saw de Almeida and Rodrigues together. Again this was
from Sao Roque.
 
Maybe someone may pick up something from this info and help us out.
 
Linda
 
 
 

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I am trying to find information on my D'ANDRADE ancestors...
 
Here is what I have:
 
Jacinto D'ANDRADE (my ggrandfather) m  Margarida Candida LOPES in Ariffes,
Sao Miguel 16 Sep 1872
 
s/o Antoinio D'Andrade de Silva m Dona-Anna-Clara in Fenais do Luz, Sao
Miguel 26 Sep 1831
 
s/o Joao D'ANDRADE RAPOSO m Genoveva ROSA in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel, 14
Oct 1779
 
s/o Manuel D'ANDRADE-MACEDO m Mariana(?)  
 
I have no further information.could there possibly be someone else on
the "list" looking for this family who could help me break through?
 
TIA
 
Elizabeth

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-02 Thread Douglas Borba

Hi,
My Borbas are from Vila Nova (Lourenço de Borba actually). I have them from 
early 1800s back to 1600. Didn't do much research after that time as my line 
migrated to Brazil, but it is excellent work and I have used to expand my 
research that I'm putting in a book.
Al's information is on microfilm (number 1224549 item 9) and you can check it 
at a LDS Church's Family History Center close to you. 
Al also has a list covering Agualva.
 
Douglas Collaço Borba
 
 

 
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 10:40:57 -0700
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Casa28,

Al Ramos who is on this list has done extensive work in Vila Nova.  He has 
created some indices for the church there, although I do not know if they come 
all the way to 1890.  They may stop before then.  Al should see this message, 
but you may also want to email him directly at apr276 at juno dot com.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-02 Thread casa28
Thanks Cheri.  I will email Mr.Ramos for sure.

On Oct 2, 1:40 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Casa28,
>
> Al Ramos who is on this list has done extensive work in Vila Nova.  He has
> created some indices for the church there, although I do not know if they
> come all the way to 1890.  They may stop before then.  Al should see this
> message, but you may also want to email him directly at apr276 at juno dot
> com.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel

2010-10-02 Thread Marralha
In a message dated 10/2/2010 3:46:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
jag4...@yahoo.com writes: 
> I am trying to find information on my D'ANDRADE ancestors...
>   
>  Here is what I have:
>   
>  Jacinto D'ANDRADE (my ggrandfather) m  Margarida Candida LOPES in 
> Ariffes, Sao Miguel 16 Sep 1872
>   
>  s/o Antoinio D'Andrade de Silva m Dona-Anna-Clara in Fenais do Luz, Sao 
> Miguel 26 Sep 1831
>   
>  s/o Joao D'ANDRADE RAPOSO m Genoveva ROSA in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel, 
> 14 Oct 1779
>   
>  s/o Manuel D'ANDRADE-MACEDO m Mariana(?)  
>  
>  I have no further information.could there possibly be someone else on 
> the "list" looking for this family who could help me break through?
>   
>  TIA
>   
>  Elizabeth
> 
Here is what I have:

João de Andrade (Nascimento) and Genoveva Rosa (da Conceição) of Fenais da 
Luz had the following children:

1. António de Andrade married Ana Clara do Nascimento, daughter of Jacinto 
Inácio de Almeida, or do Rego, and his second wife, Jacinta Miquelina, or 
Cândida de Brito (m. Matriz de Ponta Delgada, on 30.7.1806) on 26 Sept 1831.

2. Antónia Jacinta Rosa married José do Rego Baldaia, in Fenais da Luz on 
20.8.1814. 

3.  Rosa Jacinta Ricarda married José de Melo e Oliveira, ins Fenais da Luz 
on 16.2.1807.

4 . Vicencia Rosa de Andrade, married Manuel Caetano Garcia Raposo, in 
Matriz de Ponta Delgada on 26.1.1820. 

Ancestors of Clara do Nascimento

1 - Gonçalo do Rego, o Velho, came to  S. Miguel in the time of João 
Rodrigues da Câmara. he was a native of Porto. According to Frutuoso, 
(IV:XXII) he was the son of João Vaz do Rego, a nobleman and citizen of he and 
his 
second wife, Isabel Pires (128 § 1.º N.º 3) had the following:.

2 - Manuel do Rego married Maria Jerónima (103:§ 2.N.º 4).

They had: 

3 - Braz do Rego Rodovalho, married in Matriz da Ribeira Grande, on 
22.1.1569, to Jerónima de Sousa (132: § 1.º N.º 5) 

They had:.

4 - Gonçalo do Rego de Sousa, died in Matriz de Ponta Delgada on 
23.10.1659. He married Maria da Cunha Teixeira, who died in Matriz de Ponta 
Delgada on 10.2.1633, daughter of Luís Martins and Isabel da Cunha.

They had:

5 - Calisto do Rego e Sousa, baptized in Matriz de Ponta Delgada on 
18.10.1627. he was married in S. Pedro de Ponta Delgada, on 10.2.1649, to Maria 
Cabral de Melo 

They had:

6 - Manuel do Rego de Sousa, Capt. of Fenais da Luz was married in 
Fenais da Luz, on 25.1.1675, to Maria Tavares de Vasconcelos, daughter of Lino 
de Sousa Tavares and Luzia Vieira.

They had:

7 - Manuel Tavares de Melo, or Manuel do Rego Tavares Calisto, baptized 
in Capelas and resident of Fenais da Luz. he was married by proxy in Matriz 
de Vila Porto, on 1.12.1721, to Margarida Coutinho de Chaves (156:§ 4.º N.º 
9).

They had:

8 - Inácia Jacinta do Rego married in Fenais da Luz, on 10.11.1766, to 
Manuel de Almeida Couto, son of  Miguel de Almeida and Maria do Couto, of 
Rabo de Peixe (married in RP on 25.11.1734). 

They had:

9 - Jacinto Inácio de Almeida, or do Rego married on Matriz de Ponta 
Delgada, on 30.7.1806, to Jacinta Miquelina, or Cândida, de Brito (361:º § 2.º 
N.º 7).

They had:

10 -Ana Clara do Nascimento, casou nos , a 26.9.1831, com António de 
Andrade, filho de João de Andrade Nascimento e Genoveva Rosa da Conceição. Com 
geração.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Searching for D'Andrade in Sao Miguel

2010-10-02 Thread emc
I am trying to find information on my D'ANDRADE ancestors...
 
Here is what I have:
 
Jacinto D'ANDRADE (my ggrandfather) m  Margarida Candida LOPES in Ariffes, Sao 
Miguel 16 Sep 1872
 
s/o Antoinio D'Andrade de Silva m Dona-Anna-Clara in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel 
26 Sep 1831
 
s/o Joao D'ANDRADE RAPOSO m Genoveva ROSA in Fenais do Luz, Sao Miguel, 14 Oct 
1779
 
s/o Manuel D'ANDRADE-MACEDO m Mariana(?)  
 
I have no further information.could there possibly be someone else on the 
"list" looking for this family who could help me break through?
 
TIA
 
Elizabeth

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Casa28,

Al Ramos who is on this list has done extensive work in Vila Nova.  He has
created some indices for the church there, although I do not know if they
come all the way to 1890.  They may stop before then.  Al should see this
message, but you may also want to email him directly at apr276 at juno dot
com.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] de Borba and da Silva from Vila Nova, Terceira

2010-10-02 Thread casa28
Hello, I just received some information from Terceira.  I don't have
much but I figure why not post it up and see if there is a connection.

Narciso Coelho de BORBA married Rita Candida da SILVA.

I am guessing they are probably from Vila Nova, assuming that their
daughter Narcisa, (my great grandmother) was born there in 1890.

Obrigada

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Beginning search Domingos (Domingues)/da Souza/Costa

2010-10-02 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Yvonne,

1) The surname Domingos or Domingues?
Personally, I've seen Domingos more.  When it is pronounced, it sounds like
Domings, which is how you got the spelling of your surname.  However, in "A
History of the Azores Islands," by James H. Guill, he has seen both
spellings (Domingos and Domingues) recorded in the records.  They may have
be interchangeable back in time.  In modern Portuguese, perhaps one is more
of a first name and one is more of a surname, but since I only read old
Portuguese, I'll let the native speakers address that one.

2) The de Souza (or Sousa) name.
It could be a name from the mother or it could be the name from another
ancestor.  Souza (old Portuguese) or Sousa (modern Portuguese) is either the
most common surname or the 2nd most common.  I remember reading somewhere
that Silveira and Sousa are the most common, but I don't remember where I
read that and which was 1 and which was 2.  The de,do, da, is just a prefix
to the surname.

3) Ship's manifest for Lipordina
I assume you are talking about the American arrival records.  Go look at the
manifests LEAVING the Azores.  They are called "Passaportes" and they are on
the CCA site here: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/  Right now, they are
online only for the port of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel, so you are in luck
there.  You can probably find Joao de Souza Domingos coming both times and
you should be able to find Lipordinha.  From the Portuguese end, the should
be spelling her name close to correctly for that time period.  They are in
Portuguese, but just zoom and and start reading the names.  If you need
help, copy the whole URL (www. thing) and paste it and people from this list
will help you read the rest.  (Note:  Sometimes posting the web address
(URL; www.thing) will get you caught in the spam filter, but don't worry,
I'll release it.)  Also, use any browser except Firefox to look at the CCA
site (use Internet Explorer, Chrome, Safari, etc).  Firefox stops working
right before you view the image.

4) FamilySearch and Ancestry
Don't trust either one until you find the ORIGINAL source they used.  Many
family stories are just that - stories.  Some have a grain of truth.  My 76
year old dad is getting used to me picking his brain about family history
stuff.  "Well, Grandpa said." and he proceeds to tell me the story.
Then he says, "But Grandpa told me that when I was 7, 8, 9 and I don't know
how much is fact and how much was Grandpa amusing us kids."

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Beginning search Domingos (Domingues)/da Souza/Costa

2010-10-02 Thread yvonne domings
Greetings,

I am new to the group and new to searching for ancestors. I wonder if
you all could help me get further information as I have exhausted
everything I know about or understand how to do at this point.

I am researching the line of my husband's grandparents João de Souza
Domingos (b.6 Jul. 1881) and Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891?). My
husband's grandfather João came to the Cambridge, MA on the Peninsular
on 18 Sep. 1896 (or 1898) and again in 1905.

João  married (4 Apr. 1910) Lipordinha R. Costa (b. 1891) and lived in
Hudson, MA before moving to Somerville during the 1920's.

João's parents are Pasqual Domingos (or Domingues) who married Maria
Jose (b. 1864 - one record says she was born in Lagoa). I believe the
family is from São Miguel (some records say Ponta Delgada, others say
Matriz.)
Other children of Pasqual and Maria Jose are

Manuel de Souza Domingos (b. 1883)
Louis de Sousa Domingos (b. 1889)
Maria de Sousa Domingos (b. 1891)
Albert de Souza Domingos (1893-1952)
Laura Souza Domingos (b. 1897)

Lipordinha's parents are Maria Santos and Manuel J. Costa (b. ~1855).
Lipordinha reportedly came to the US in 1906. Her sisters are Adelina
and Marianna who both married Manuel Custodio (Marianna died in
childbirth). I believe they may have had a brother named Antone.
Lipordina was also known as Pauline.

The last name Domingos was Anglicized to Domings by the 1930 census.
Joao (aka John) and Lipordinha's (aka Pauline) Domingos' children are
Laura (b. 1911)
Louis (b. 1912)
Mary (b. 1915)
William (b. 1916)
Arthur (b. 1920)
Edward (b. 1922)
Gloria (b. 1929)
Robert (b. 1930) (my f-i-l)

I have three questions or things that are puzzling me at the moment
that I would like the groups help with:

1) The surname Domingos or Domingues?
Although I have records that João has written his name "Domingos," I
recently found information on a Maria Jose Domingues traveling to the
US multiple times under the spelling Domingues. She lists her son
Manuel (similar address in Cambridge and the correct occupation) as
her contact in the US so I'm pretty sure it is her. I'm not sure which
spelling is correct (Domingos or Domingues), as there seem to be
records for both spellings. People from Sao Miguel tell me that the
surname is most commonly spelled Domingues there with Domingos
commonly being a first name.

2) The de Souza (or Sousa) name. A lot of the siblings of Joao had the
middle name which is actually how I found them. Would this be their
mother's maiden name or could it be another ancestor's name? I see
lots of people talking about others who use this middle name with a
different surname. I wonder if it is simply common or could there be a
link?

2) Ship's manifest for Lipordina
I have not found the ships manifest for Lipordinha's of the other
Costas' arrival. I did find a manifest of the Romanic from 4 Jul 1906.
This keeps coming up but the name is Leopoldina Costa who is reported
to be 7 years old in 1906. The mother's name was right and they
reported to be meeting a Manuel Costa in Taunton, MA. The confusing
part of that is that she reported being 19 in 1910 when she got
married, so I'm not sure it is her. The name Lipordina (or Lipordinha
or Leopoldina) is unique enough that it keeps making me wonder. Any
insight anyone might provide is greatly appreciated

Do any of these names sound familiar to anyone? Do you have any
advice? I have very little information on the Costas. I believe they
were from São Miguel as well although I'm not positive. Someone told
me that many of the people who ended up in Hudson, MA were from Santa
Maria. I wonder about that as well.

All of this came from Family Search.org and Ancestry. I'm not sure
where to go from here. Any help or advice would be greatly
appreciated.

Yvonne Domings

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