RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

2010-10-18 Thread EHsilveira
OK Jacki,

I will be contacting you soon.

Emil

Emil Silveira

- Original Message -
From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 20:53:15 - (UTC)
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial


Wow Emil, That just proves how 
small the world can be. If you'd like, I would love to share more detailed 
lineage information. If you're interested, we can do that through private 
emails. You can email me at:   jacki at thegentrys dot us 
 It's always nice to find 
family. Now I have found two more cousins. Jacki Jacki Gentry
  
Pittsburg, CASurnames: Medeiros, 
Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, 
AzevedoIslands: Cedros, Faial and 
Faja de Cima, Sao 

Miguel  
From: azores@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
ehsilve...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:51 
PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 
[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

Hi Jacki,

Lazaro Gomes Trozilho and Clara Goulart are 
both my wife Dorothy Anne Ray and my Emil Henry Silveira's  9th 
great-grandparents. We are also Pat's Cousin. My wife Dot descends from their 
son Pedro Gomes and I descend from their daughter Maria 
Vieira.

Hello cousin.

 Emil

Emil 
Silveira

- Original Message -
From: Jacki G 
ja...@cdmmarketing.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, 16 
Sep 2010 04:19:45 - (UTC)
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco 
Gomes, Cedros, Faial


Just in case anyone else is 
also connected to this line; I am 
posting it here publicly. 
Lazaro Gomes and Clara 
GoulartPedro Gomes and Madelena 
JorgeLazaro Gomes d.1686 and 
Barbara Duarte 
Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672Andre de Medeiros 
abt.1667-1695 and 
Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 1705Manuel de Medeiros 
1689-1747 and Maria de 
Sao Jose 1725 - 1802Vincente Jose de 
Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and 
Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 
1821Jose Francisco de 
Medeiros 1795 - ? and 
Mariana Bernarda 1789 - ?Antonio Francisco de 
Medeiros 1829 - ? and 
Maria Clara 1834 - ?Manuel Francisco de 
Medeiros 1876 - 1959 
and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 
1942Jose Alfred Medeiros 
1898 - 1979 and Mary 
Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 
1992Eldora Medeiros (My 

Mother) 
I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from Sao 

Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. 

 
Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x 

removed. What a small world it is. 
Jacki 
Pittsburg, CASurnames: Medeiros, 
Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, 
AzevedoIslands: Cedros, Faial and 
Faja de Cima, Sao 
Miguel
From: 
azores@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Patricia 
Butcher
Sent: Wednesday, September 
15, 2010 10:42 AM
To:
azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: 
Francisco 
Gomes, Cedros, Faial

Hi Jacki,
How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line 
of 
descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact 

me privately.

Francisco Gomes b.1634
Gregorio Duarte
Domingas 

Pereira
Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca
Domingos Antonio de 

Mendonca
Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr
Tomas Pereira Jorge de 
Escobar 
b.1824
Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868
Isabel Louise 
Perry (my 
mother)

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

At 01:01 PM 
9/14/2010, you 
wrote:
Wow 
  
  Patricia,  that is the first time I have come accross 
  someone with a 
  common relative in this side of my family. He 
  is my 8th ggrandfather. That 
  definitely makes us cousins. 
  ;)
 
I also found the record for 
  his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 
  1689 (my 6th 
  ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though 
  
  for either one though.
 
Jacki
 
Pittsburg, 
  
  CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, 
  Machado, 
  Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, 
  Sao Miguel

From: 
  azores@googlegroups.com [
  mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On 
  Behalf Of Patricia 
  Butcher
Sent: 
  Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:41 AM
To:
  azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 
  [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation 
  Help

Hi 
  Jacki,
Your Francisco Gomes is my 7th ggrandfather. I 
  have 
  his birthdate in my file as August 1634. No day is given. Let me know if 
  
  you figure out the day. Thanks!!

Patricia

At 
  11:06 PM 9/13/2010, 
  you wrote:
Can anyone make out 

what this says. 
 
There is also a larger version that 
may be easier to see, on my 
family website 
here:http://www.thegentrys.us/Baptism1634.htm
 
 I am trying to make sure I have the right 

record.
 
It 
should be the baptismal record 
for Francisco 
Gomes baptized 20 Aug 1634. His parents were Lazaro Gomes and 

Barbara Duarte. Baptised at Igreja Paroquial de 
Santa Barbara, Cedros 

Faial.
 
With my 
limited ability to read the 
old portuguese, I'm 
only pretty sure.
 
Thanks for the 
help
 
Jacki
 
Pittsburg, 

CA

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mello from Sao Miguel or Terceira

2010-10-18 Thread Gileno Caldas
Gostaria de saber se há algum registro de imigração da Ilha de São Miguel
pelo Porto de Ponta delgada - gileno caldas barboza

2010/10/16 Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com

 Repost for t.rodrigues74 at yahoo.com

 Hi Edward, I do not know if we are related, but I will provide you with
 some info which you can check out, you necer know, we just might be related.

 The Rodrigues side, I was born in Boston, Ma, of parents who were 100 %
 portuguese but born in the United States, my paternal grandfather was born
 in Funchal, in the Parrish of Sao Pedro of Ponto DePargo

 The Mello (DeMelo) side, was born in San Miguel in the parrish of Sao Pedro
 of Angra.

 Good luck Edward, keep me posted OK.


 Tony

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mello from Sao Miguel or Terceira

2010-10-18 Thread Eliseu Manuel Pacheco da Silva
Gileno,

 

Vá a http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/  e escolha PASSAPORTES  do lado
direito da página.

 

Go to http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ and hit PASSAPORTES at the right
side of the page.

 

eliseu

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

2010-10-18 Thread henriettamayer
Hi Emil, Myname is Henrietta Mayer and I believe I met you in Newport, RI last 
year and I tried to contact you by phone but they said it wasn't the right 
number. I was wondering if you are still in Newport ? My number is 
860-535-4599. Henrietta
  - Original Message - 
  From: ehsilve...@comcast.net 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 7:52 AM
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial


  OK Jacki,

  I will be contacting you soon.

  Emil

  Emil Silveira

  - Original Message -
  From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 20:53:15 - (UTC)
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial



  Wow Emil,
   
  That just proves how 
  small the world can be. If you'd like, I would love to share more detailed 
  lineage information. If you're interested, we can do that through private 
  emails. You can email me at:   jacki at thegentrys dot us 

   
  It's always nice to find 
  family. Now I have found two more cousins.
   
  Jacki
   
  Jacki Gentry

   

  Pittsburg, CA
  Surnames: Medeiros, 
  Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, 
  Azevedo
  Islands: Cedros, Faial and 
  Faja de Cima, Sao 

  Miguel
   



--
  From: azores@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
  ehsilve...@comcast.net
  Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 1:51 
  PM
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: 
  [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial


  Hi Jacki,

  Lazaro Gomes Trozilho and Clara Goulart are 
  both my wife Dorothy Anne Ray and my Emil Henry Silveira's  9th 
  great-grandparents. We are also Pat's Cousin. My wife Dot descends from their 
  son Pedro Gomes and I descend from their daughter Maria 
  Vieira.

  Hello cousin.

   Emil

  Emil 
  Silveira

  - Original Message -
  From: Jacki G 
  ja...@cdmmarketing.com
  To: azores@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thu, 16 
  Sep 2010 04:19:45 - (UTC)
  Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco 
  Gomes, Cedros, Faial



  Just in case anyone else is 
  also connected to this line; I am 
  posting it here publicly.


  Lazaro Gomes and Clara 
  Goulart
  Pedro Gomes and Madelena 
  Jorge
  Lazaro Gomes d.1686 and 
  Barbara Duarte 

  Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672
  Andre de Medeiros 
  abt.1667-1695 and 
  Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 1705
  Manuel de Medeiros 
  1689-1747 and Maria de 
  Sao Jose 1725 - 1802
  Vincente Jose de 
  Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and 
  Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 
  1821
  Jose Francisco de 
  Medeiros 1795 - ? and 
  Mariana Bernarda 1789 - ?
  Antonio Francisco de 
  Medeiros 1829 - ? and 
  Maria Clara 1834 - ?
  Manuel Francisco de 
  Medeiros 1876 - 1959 
  and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 
  1942
  Jose Alfred Medeiros 
  1898 - 1979 and Mary 
  Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 
  1992
  Eldora Medeiros (My 

  Mother)


  I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from Sao 

  Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. 




  Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x 

  removed. What a small world it is.


  Jacki


  Pittsburg, CA
  Surnames: Medeiros, 
  Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, 
  Azevedo
  Islands: Cedros, Faial and 
  Faja de Cima, Sao 
  Miguel



--
  From: 
  azores@googlegroups.com 
  [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
  Of Patricia 
  Butcher
  Sent: Wednesday, September 
  15, 2010 10:42 AM
  To:
  azores@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: 
  Francisco 
  Gomes, Cedros, Faial


  Hi Jacki,
  How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line 
  of 
  descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you can contact 

  me privately.

  Francisco Gomes b.1634
  Gregorio Duarte
  Domingas 

  Pereira
  Manuel Francisco Furtado de Mendonca
  Domingos Antonio de 

  Mendonca
  Aurelia Rita Bernarda de Escobr
  Tomas Pereira Jorge de 
  Escobar 
  b.1824
  Tomas Pereira Jorge de Escobar b. 1868
  Isabel Louise 
  Perry (my 
  mother)

  Patricia
  Las Vegas, NV

  At 01:01 PM 
  9/14/2010, you 
  wrote:

Wow 
  
  Patricia,  that is the first time I have come accross 
  someone with a 
  common relative in this side of my family. He 
  is my 8th ggrandfather. That 
  definitely makes us cousins. 
  ;)
 
I also found the record for 
  his grandson Manuel de Medeiros born Aug 
  1689 (my 6th 
  ggrandfather). I haven't been able to find a birth record though 
  
  for either one though.
 
Jacki
 
Pittsburg, 
  
  CA
Surnames: Medeiros, Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, 
  Machado, 
  Azevedo
Islands: Cedros, Faial and Faja de Cima, 
  Sao Miguel



Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mello from Sao Miguel or Terceira

2010-10-18 Thread Edward Rodrigues
Cheri
Thanks for forwarding the e-mail could you relay to Tony Rodrigues that I 
haven't even started researching my ancestry in the azores where both my 
parents parents came from. But will keep his information in my files for that 
day.
thanks again Edward Rodrigues



On Oct 16, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Repost for t.rodrigues74 at yahoo.com
 
 Hi Edward, I do not know if we are related, but I will provide you with some 
 info which you can check out, you necer know, we just might be related.
  
 The Rodrigues side, I was born in Boston, Ma, of parents who were 100 % 
 portuguese but born in the United States, my paternal grandfather was born in 
 Funchal, in the Parrish of Sao Pedro of Ponto DePargo
  
 The Mello (DeMelo) side, was born in San Miguel in the parrish of Sao Pedro 
 of Angra.
  
 Good luck Edward, keep me posted OK.
  
  
 Tony
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

2010-10-18 Thread EHsilveira


Hello Henrietta,

  I am very
happy to hear from you and of course I remember you. You were with Gabriella
and we were together talking at the Middletown Knights of Columbus hall about
genealogy. It was a quick attempt at bringing people in the area together to
see who was interested and related to each other. To quick and to short, but it
was fun and interesting. I also know that you are the founder of “The American
Portuguese Genealogical Society Inc. Taunton, MA to which many of us belong.

  Dot and I sold
our house in Rhode Island early June of this year. We live in Orlando, Florida
during the winter and now Powhatan, Virginia during the summer. Our phone
number here is 407 354 2419. You can contact me directly by e-mail or phone as
you wish.

 

Emil





Emil Silveira

- Original Message -
From: henriettama...@sbcglobal.net
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 18:42:23 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial


Hi Emil, Myname is Henrietta Mayer and I believe I 
met you in Newport, RI last year and I tried to contact you by phone but they 
said it wasn't the right number. I was wondering if you are still in Newport ? 
My number is 860-535-4599. Henrietta- Original Message - 
From:ehsilve...@comcast.netto:azo...@googlegroups.comsent: Monday, October 18, 
2010 7:52 
  AMSubject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: 
  Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial
OK Jacki,

I will be contacting you 
  soon.

Emil

Emil Silveira

- 
  Original Message -
From: Jacki G. ja...@cdmmarketing.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: 
  Sun, 17 Oct 2010 20:53:15 - (UTC)
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: 
  Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial


Wow Emil, 
  That just proves how 
  
small the world can be. If you'd like, I would love to share more 
  detailed 
lineage information. If you're interested, we can do that through 
  private 
emails. You can email me at:   jacki at thegentrys dot 
  us 
 
  It's always nice to 
  find 
family. Now I have found two more cousins. 
  Jacki 
  Jacki 
  Gentry

Pittsburg, 
  CASurnames: Medeiros, 
  
Fernandes, Pereira, Pacheco, Machado, 
AzevedoIslands: Cedros, 
  Faial and 
Faja de Cima, Sao 

Miguel 
  
From: 
  azores@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
  Of 
ehsilve...@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, 
  October 16, 2010 1:51 
PM
To: 
  azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 
  
[AZORES-Genealogy] RE: Francisco Gomes, Cedros, Faial

Hi Jacki,

Lazaro Gomes Trozilho and Clara Goulart are 
  
both my wife Dorothy Anne Ray and my Emil Henry Silveira's  9th 
  
great-grandparents. We are also Pat's Cousin. My wife Dot descends from 
  their 
son Pedro Gomes and I descend from their daughter Maria 
  
Vieira.

Hello 
  cousin.

 Emil

Emil 
Silveira

- 
  Original Message -
From: Jacki G 
  
ja...@cdmmarketing.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: 
  Thu, 16 
Sep 2010 04:19:45 - (UTC)
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] 
  RE: Francisco 
Gomes, Cedros, Faial


Just in case anyone else is 
also connected to 
  this line; I am 
posting it here publicly.
Lazaro Gomes and Clara 
GoulartPedro Gomes and Madelena 
JorgeLazaro Gomes d.1686 and 
Barbara Duarte 
  
Francisco Gomes 1634-bfr1672 and Maria Pereira d.1672Andre de Medeiros 
  
abt.1667-1695 and 
Catarina Luis abt 1655 - 
  1705Manuel de Medeiros 
  
1689-1747 and Maria de 
Sao Jose 1725 - 
  1802Vincente Jose de 
  
Medeiros 1765 - 1832 and 
Maria Silveira abt 1771 - 
  
1821Jose Francisco de 
  
Medeiros 1795 - ? and 
Mariana Bernarda 1789 - 
  ?Antonio Francisco de 
  
Medeiros 1829 - ? and 
Maria Clara 1834 - 
  ?Manuel Francisco de 
  
Medeiros 1876 - 1959 
and Maria Francisca Machado 1875 - 
  
1942Jose Alfred Medeiros 
  
1898 - 1979 and Mary 
Bernice Fernandes 1907 - 
  
1992Eldora Medeiros (My 
  

Mother)
I also have Medeiros' on my grandmother's side from 
  Sao 

Miguel which is the next line to get my major focus. 
  


Patricia, I figured out that we are 7th cousins 2x 
  

removed. What a small world it is.
Jacki
Pittsburg, CASurnames: Medeiros, 
Fernandes, Pereira, 
  Pacheco, Machado, 
AzevedoIslands: Cedros, Faial and 
Faja de Cima, Sao 
  
Miguel
From:
azores@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On 
  Behalf 
Of Patricia 
Butcher
Sent: 
  Wednesday, September 
15, 2010 10:42 
  AM
To:
azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: 
  [AZORES-Genealogy] RE: 
Francisco 
Gomes, Cedros, Faial

Hi Jacki,
How exciting to find another cousin!!! Here is my line 
  
of 
descendants starting with Francisco. If you need more details you 
  can contact 

me privately.

Francisco Gomes b.1634
Gregorio 
  Duarte
Domingas 

Pereira
Manuel Francisco Furtado de 
  Mendonca
Domingos Antonio de 

Mendonca
Aurelia Rita Bernarda de 
  Escobr
Tomas Pereira Jorge de 
Escobar 
b.1824
Tomas Pereira Jorge 
  de Escobar b. 1868
Isabel Louise 
Perry (my 
  
mother)

Patricia
Las Vegas, NV

At 01:01 PM 
9/14/2010, 
  you 
wrote:
Wow 

  
  Patricia, 

[AZORES-Genealogy] Off topic: Protecting your password and security stuff

2010-10-18 Thread Cheri Mello
I normally don't do this, but we've had at least 5 people from this list hit
with the help me, I'm stranded in _, send money emails.  And I tripped
across this.  I'm not starting this thread in this genealogy forum to start
blabbing about computer security.  This is a for your information type
post.  No response to this post is needed.  Take this info if you like, or
leave it.  Although it was written for Gmail users, it has useful
information in it that Internet users should be aware of.

http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2010/10/protecting-your-data-in-cloud.html

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name

2010-10-18 Thread Linda Norton
Please keep me in mind on what you have found on de Andrade's since my
grandmother was Maria do Espirito Santo de Andrade from Ariffes. Her father,
Manuel de Almeida de Andrade Rodrigues was from Sao Roque. I have not
searched her lines yet, but there may be a connection. She was born in 1884
and died 1963 in Riberia Grande. She had a brother Anton, two sisters,
Odelia and Elise. 
 
Linda Borges Furtado Norton

  _  

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
celeste perry
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 8:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name



Jesse, can you give some dates or approximate dates for the people you
mention.  My husband's maternal grandmother was born in Rosario, Lagoa, Sao
Miguel and I have some names that are the same as yours; however, without
dates, I can't really tell if they are a match.
Celeste

Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com wrote:



From: Jesse Pacheco pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name
To: Azores Genealogy azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 17, 2010, 3:45 PM


Hi everyone. Once again I am posting about a family I have mentioned
previously but with new information behind me, which has, as always, brought
new questions. I will give some background information first to leave out
any room for error.

My great great grandmother was Maria da Resureicao d'Andrade. Since this
branch was estranged from my family, all of my information on them is from
my own research.

I can confirm that she was born 2 Apr 1888 from her SSDI record; I can
confirm the death is hers from the obituary I found. From this information,
I learned that she was born in Lagoa, SM, and her father's name was Antone
(Antonio) Andrade and her mother was Mary Rose Moniz. Incidentally, Maria
R.'s eventual mother in law was named Rosalina. It is that fact that gives
me reason to believe that confusion may have occurred.

With the help of Maria Moore from the list, I located a baptismo in Rosario,
Lagoa, SM for a Maria born 2 Apr 1888 to Antonio d'Andrade Caggarinho and
Maria Jose. Although Jose is very different in sound from Rose, they are
only one letter off; I believe that there was a mistake, somewhere along the
line, and Jose may have been misread by someone having Rosalina in mind,
possibly a grandchild who had never known their grandparents who remained in
the Azores. This is only my theory.

What the theory does not explain, though is the Moniz surname. The
earliest record I have of Moniz is Maria Resureicao's marriage record, where
her mother is listed as Maria Moniz and her mother-in-law as Rosa Luiz.

I have traced the family four to five generations back into the Azores, and
this is Maria Jose Moniz's lineage:

Maria Jose born 15 Apr 1853 to Manuel de Botelho and Elena do Espirito
Santo.

Manuel de Botelho was the son of Joze Botelho and Luzia Ignacia, the
paternal grandson of Joze Botelho and Secilia Medeiros, and the maternal
grandson of Estevao da Ponte and Jozefa Pacheca.

Elena do Espirito Santo was the daughter of Antonio Jacinto (no surname,
just Jacinto) and Maria dos Santos, the paternal granddaughter of Joao Bento
and Francisco Pereira, and the maternal granddaughter of Antonio Fereira and
Thereza dos Santos.

Nowhere in  the lineage is a Moniz (or a Luiz, though I'm pretty sure that
has nothing to do with the family) and I am wondering where it may have come
from. I am wondering if Maria Jose's father Manuel Botelho may have become
Manuel Botelho Moniz at some point in his life, but I have two of his
casamentos and he is just Botelho on both. I haven't been able to find his
obito yet; he was born in 1797 in Agua do Pau, so I think the records are
available for me to look online.

I wanted to post about this first, though; does anyone else have any
mysterious names like I do, or did I have a mistake in my research and this
family is not even mine? I have been extra careful about that with this
family since I had so little information of my own, so I hope that's not the
case!

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Amalia Rodrigues -

2010-10-18 Thread danandmaria
Imagine my surprise when I get in my car and Amalia is singing on the radio.  
This is an interesting story on NPR. 




http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207 





http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130357207

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name

2010-10-18 Thread danandmaria


I think you both share ancestors with Etta Daniels - etta...@attbi.com   (via F 
rancisca /Pereira/ and João Bento /de Sousa) 



Margaret, who is your great great grandfather? 



Maria Moore 


- Original Message - 
From: Margaret Vicente margaretvice...@gmail.com 
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 10:51:24 PM 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Mysterious Maiden Name 

Hi Jesse, 


Helena do Espirito Santo dos Santos daughter of Antonio Jacinto Bento and Maria 
dos Santos was born on May 27 1814 in Agua de Pau, and is my great-great aunt.  
She is my great great grandmother Ana Candida dos Santos' sister.   


Antonio Jacinto Bento, my gggf who was born Oct 20 1791, son of Joao Bento de 
Sousa and Francisca Pereira. 


Yes, there is Luiz as a surname in the family.  Francisca Pereira born on Mar 
3rd 1762 was the daughter of Manuel Pereira and  Barbara Luiz. 




Margaret Vicente 


On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Jesse Pacheco  pacheco.jess...@gmail.com  
wrote: 


 Hi everyone. Once again I am posting about a family I have mentioned 
previously but with new information behind me, which has, as always, brought 
new questions. I will give some background information first to leave out any 
room for error. 

My great great grandmother was Maria da Resureicao d'Andrade. Since this branch 
was estranged from my family, all of my information on them is from my own 
research. 

I can confirm that she was born 2 Apr 1888 from her SSDI record; I can confirm 
the death is hers from the obituary I found. From this information, I learned 
that she was born in Lagoa, SM, and her father's name was Antone (Antonio) 
Andrade and her mother was Mary Rose Moniz. Incidentally, Maria R.'s eventual 
mother in law was named Rosalina. It is that fact that gives me reason to 
believe that confusion may have occurred. 

With the help of Maria Moore from the list, I located a baptismo in Rosario, 
Lagoa, SM for a Maria born 2 Apr 1888 to Antonio d'Andrade Caggarinho and Maria 
Jose. Although Jose is very different in sound from Rose, they are only one 
letter off; I believe that there was a mistake, somewhere along the line, and 
Jose may have been misread by someone having Rosalina in mind, possibly a 
grandchild who had never known their grandparents who remained in the Azores. 
This is only my theory. 

What the theory does not explain, though is the Moniz surname. The earliest 
record I have of Moniz is Maria Resureicao's marriage record, where her mother 
is listed as Maria Moniz and her mother-in-law as Rosa Luiz. 

I have traced the family four to five generations back into the Azores, and 
this is Maria Jose Moniz's lineage: 

Maria Jose born 15 Apr 1853 to Manuel de Botelho and Elena do Espirito Santo. 

Manuel de Botelho was the son of Joze Botelho and Luzia Ignacia, the paternal 
grandson of Joze Botelho and Secilia Medeiros, and the maternal grandson of 
Estevao da Ponte and Jozefa Pacheca. 

Elena do Espirito Santo was the daughter of Antonio Jacinto (no surname, just 
Jacinto) and Maria dos Santos, the paternal granddaughter of Joao Bento and 
Francisco Pereira, and the maternal granddaughter of Antonio Fereira and 
Thereza dos Santos. 

Nowhere in  the lineage is a Moniz (or a Luiz, though I'm pretty sure that has 
nothing to do with the family) and I am wondering where it may have come from. 
I am wondering if Maria Jose's father Manuel Botelho may have become Manuel 
Botelho Moniz at some point in his life, but I have two of his casamentos and 
he is just Botelho on both. I haven't been able to find his obito yet; he was 
born in 1797 in Agua do Pau, so I think the records are available for me to 
look online. 

I wanted to post about this first, though; does anyone else have any mysterious 
names like I do, or did I have a mistake in my research and this family is not 
even mine? I have been extra careful about that with this family since I had so 
little information of my own, so I hope that's not the case! 

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