Fwd: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

2013-01-31 Thread gracefalcone

Ricardo D. Rebelo's Island of My Dreams aired on Rhode Island PBS, channel 
36, on Sunday, May 29, at 11 p.m.

You can watch the entire film online here: 
http://blip.tv/rrebelo/island-of-my-dreams-4885145  


More to follow..



best, grace falcone

Searching Family names:
Pacheco Santana , Moniz, Cabral, da Costa, Carvalho, Vieira, daSiva, Tavares, 
Arruda, Pereira

Villages on San Miguel, Azores: 
Furnas, Maia, Porto Formoso, and Nordeste 



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Re: FILM: Ricardo D. Rebelo's Island of My Dreams aired on Rhode Island PBS, 
channel 36, on Sunday, May 29, at 11 p.m.

You can watch the entire film online here: 
http://blip.tv/rrebelo/island-of-my-dreams-4885145

Best, grace 






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When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any 
typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming with 
husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger brother? Would 
she have traveled over alone if another family member already here?
I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great 
grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for traveling 
into the USA
Mike


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

2013-01-31 Thread danandmaria
Karen, 


I probably could answer your question of why your grandmother came a year after 
her parents. The cost of the voyage. 


Maria Moore 


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My grandmother came to the US when she was 4. She traveled with 2 aunts and an 
uncle. Her parents were already here. I wish I had asked her way back when as 
to why her parents came almost a whole year ahead of her when she was so young. 
They all came in through Rhode Island and settled in New Bedford. Some stayed 
there for a while. Others left right away for Mendocino County in California. 
Karen Huffman 



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When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any 
typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming with 
husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger brother? Would 
she have traveled over alone if another family member already here? 
I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great 
grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for traveling 
into the USA 
Mike 



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Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa in 
Terceira Acores. 

Searching for Anderson and Swanson in Sweden and Schaeffer and Schommer in 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] leaving the azores

2013-01-31 Thread Kathy Lee Dickey
When my Great Grandmother came overfrom Madeira she had to be sponsored.
She and my Great Grandfather both. And then they settled in Fall River. I
am not sure which Port they came through. That is all a work in process,
which I am currently trying to do at the moment.
 Kathy Lee

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote:

 When it comes to women leaving the Azores to come to the USA, is there any
 typical situation that would bring them over? coming with parents? coming
 with husband? would they have traveled over with an older or younger
 brother? Would she have traveled over alone if another family member
 already here?
 I'm trying to find a clue to connect my great aunt Francisca to my great
 grandfather Jose to maybe narrow down some of the search results for
 traveling into the USA
 Mike

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Women traveling from Acores

2013-01-31 Thread Dolores Vener
My grandmother traveled alone to New York and then by train to Hanford, CA. 
She was going to her cousin (Joaquin Valine) who owned the California Saloon. 
She was sponsored by him or maybe one of her two brothers who were already 
here. Upon arrival in Hanford she went right to the saloon which was very near 
the train station. She walked right in the front door. Her cousin was very 
happy 
to see her, but he told her Virginia, you never come in the front door of a 
saloon. Ladies don't do that! She didn't know. Her cousin had told her he knew 
a nice man for her to marry and had told my grandfather that he had a nice girl 
coming that he might like to marry. And they did marry the next year. Virginia 
Garcia Serpa and Jose Teixeira Bettencourt.  
Dolores Vener 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
Sorry I can't find the email where this was posted, I want to thank the
person who sent this.  Very interesting, I also have to admit that I have
never heard anyone speak Portuguese. So it was nice, but odd at the same
time.  Since I know how to speak Spanish a little and read it better, and
as I have gone through records thinking its was very similar to Spanish.
BUT after hearing it sounds alot different.Anyways just wanted to say
thanks, it was neat to finally hear it.

Pam

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread pico
Pam,Although my father speaks Portuguese, which he learned while the family lived in Brazil before I was born, I also never heard it spoken until my first trip to Portugal in 1992.My cousins in Lisboa also know English, so it worked great for me. My impression was and is still that Portuguese sounds similar to Spanish and French. Then I found that all my cousins also know French and they felt it was a very easy language for them to learn.I have since confirmed with many native Portuguese speakers that most also know French.My grandfather from Terceira was a salesman in Tulare, Oakland, Sacramento and many places in between. He was reportedly fluent in Spanish, which must have helped him make sales to a broader public.I remember none of this myself, since I was pretty young and my grandfather already retired by the time I knew him, but there are Sacramento families who knew him as the linguiça man, since he distributed linguiça throughout these areas of California. I would not be surprised if some of the older readers of this list also remember him for that.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
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Date: Thu, January 31, 2013 12:53 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Sorry I can't find the email where this was posted, I want to thank the person who sent this. Very interesting, I also have to admit that I have never heard anyone speak Portuguese. So it was nice, but odd at the same time. Since I know how to speak Spanish a little and read it better, and as I have gone through records thinking its was very similar to Spanish. BUT after hearing it sounds alot different.Anyways just wanted to say thanks, it was neat to finally hear it. Pam  --





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
That is exactly what I was thinking it sounded French!!! I could still
understand some words, but I am glad I heard it because when I finally do
go to the Azores, I know now that I will not be able to understand them.
Compared to what I thought it being similar to Spanish.

Thanks Sonia I will keep that in mind.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:08 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 Pam,

 Although my father speaks Portuguese, which he learned while the family
 lived in Brazil before I was born, I also never heard it spoken until my
 first trip to Portugal in 1992.
 My cousins in Lisboa also know English, so it worked great for me.

 My impression was and is still that Portuguese sounds similar to Spanish
 and French. Then I found that all my cousins also know French and they felt
 it was a very easy language for them to learn.
 I have since confirmed with many native Portuguese speakers that most also
 know French.

 My grandfather from Terceira was a salesman in Tulare, Oakland, Sacramento
 and many places in between. He was reportedly fluent in Spanish, which must
 have helped him make sales to a broader public.

 I remember none of this myself, since I was pretty young and my
 grandfather already retired by the time I knew him, but there are
 Sacramento families who knew him as the linguiça man, since he distributed
 linguiça throughout these areas of California. I would not be surprised if
 some of the older readers of this list also remember him for that.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
 From: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 31, 2013 12:53 pm
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 Sorry I can't find the email where this was posted, I want to thank the
 person who sent this.  Very interesting, I also have to admit that I have
 never heard anyone speak Portuguese. So it was nice, but odd at the same
 time.  Since I know how to speak Spanish a little and read it better, and
 as I have gone through records thinking its was very similar to Spanish.
 BUT after hearing it sounds alot different.Anyways just wanted to say
 thanks, it was neat to finally hear it.

 Pam
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread Cheri Mello
When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state
tests.  I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students
were testing.  So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while
walking up and down the aisles.  After the testing was done, my Spanish
speaking students (13  14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes.  They
listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent.  One
student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could
probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish
speaker).

I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian.
I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Fenais da Luz CCA

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
It sure it taking along time, Before was getting an 404 error now no error
but no record appears either.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Fenais da Luz CCA

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
Well the Marriages show up and deaths just not baptism

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 It sure it taking along time, Before was getting an 404 error now no error
 but no record appears either.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread pico
Romanian - one of the Romance languages. The Slavic languages sound very different. I can distinguish between Russian, Slovak or Czech because I hear Slovak daily.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico  Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
From: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, January 31, 2013 2:52 pm
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French and Russian heheOn Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing. So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down the aisles. After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13  14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes. They listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent. One student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish speaker). I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian. I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know. 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
Nice I can't lol

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:04 PM, p...@dholmes.com wrote:

 Romanian - one of the Romance languages.
 The Slavic languages sound very different. I can distinguish between
 Russian, Slovak or Czech because I hear Slovak daily.

 Doug da Rocha Holmes
 Sacramento, California
 Pico  Terceira Genealogist
 916-550-1618
 www.dholmes.com


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams
 From: Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, January 31, 2013 2:52 pm
 To: azores@googlegroups.com

 Okay I was going to say that too a little Russian but was too embarassed
 too lol I am glad I am not the only one. So its a little Spanish, French
 and Russian hehe

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:

 When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state
 tests.  I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students
 were testing.  So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while
 walking up and down the aisles.  After the testing was done, my Spanish
 speaking students (13  14 year olds) wanted to hear the tapes.  They
 listened and said it sounded like Spanish with a French accent.  One
 student told me that she thought if she were left in Portugal, she could
 probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she was a native Spanish
 speaker).

 I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to
 Romanian.  I've never heard that spoken, so I really don't know.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread John Vasconcelos
*Although I was born in California, I speak and understand Portuguese
reasonably well and even read and write enough Portuguese, both Azorean and
Brazilian (including some slang), to write letters to friends and
relatives  in both the Azores and Brazil (my late wife was Brazilian and we
were married almost 21 years).  I was born 4 years after my mother
immigrated to the US, so I didn't speak much English until I started
school. By the time I started high school, I had forgotten most of my
Portuguese, but a whole family of cousins immigrated from the Azores and I
started speaking it again. After grad school, I got a chance to work in
Brazil where I met my wife and the rest is history. Now when I go to the
Azores, I am sometimes asked what part of Brazil I'm from. Similarly, some
Brazillians will say that I have an Island accent.
I went to all this preamble to say that I absolutely am hopeless with
French,.. can't begin to understand it. I took Spanish in High School and
get along reasonably well. I can even get along in Italian, but French is a
big ZERO.
John Vasconcelos
*
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry I can't find the email where this was posted, I want to thank the
 person who sent this.  Very interesting, I also have to admit that I have
 never heard anyone speak Portuguese. So it was nice, but odd at the same
 time.  Since I know how to speak Spanish a little and read it better, and
 as I have gone through records thinking its was very similar to Spanish.
 BUT after hearing it sounds alot different.Anyways just wanted to say
 thanks, it was neat to finally hear it.

 Pam

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread Pam Santos
That is neat. Yeah I think it helps when your around other people who speak
the language.

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 5:27 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Although I was born in California, I speak and understand Portuguese
 reasonably well and even read and write enough Portuguese, both Azorean and
 Brazilian (including some slang), to write letters to friends and
 relatives  in both the Azores and Brazil (my late wife was Brazilian and we
 were married almost 21 years).  I was born 4 years after my mother
 immigrated to the US, so I didn't speak much English until I started
 school. By the time I started high school, I had forgotten most of my
 Portuguese, but a whole family of cousins immigrated from the Azores and I
 started speaking it again. After grad school, I got a chance to work in
 Brazil where I met my wife and the rest is history. Now when I go to the
 Azores, I am sometimes asked what part of Brazil I'm from. Similarly, some
 Brazillians will say that I have an Island accent.
 I went to all this preamble to say that I absolutely am hopeless with
 French,.. can't begin to understand it. I took Spanish in High School and
 get along reasonably well. I can even get along in Italian, but French is a
 big ZERO.
 John Vasconcelos
 *
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Pam Santos pamsanto...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry I can't find the email where this was posted, I want to thank the
 person who sent this.  Very interesting, I also have to admit that I have
 never heard anyone speak Portuguese. So it was nice, but odd at the same
 time.  Since I know how to speak Spanish a little and read it better, and
 as I have gone through records thinking its was very similar to Spanish.
 BUT after hearing it sounds alot different.Anyways just wanted to say
 thanks, it was neat to finally hear it.

 Pam

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

2013-01-31 Thread helen kerner


My Spanish friends tell me that Italian is easier for them to understand than 
Portuguese.  My Italian friends tell me the same.  


I had a cousin (Azorean by birth) who worked for Varig Airlines in Brazil and 
when she came home to visit and used Brazilian Portuguese her mom kept telling 
her to speak Portuguese because she didn't understand her with all the new 
sounds.  

The thing to know is that Portuguese/Spanish/French/Italian/Romanian are all 
Romance languages and Latin is their link.

I have been to Romania in 1991 and on the tours that were only given in 
Romanian 
I did understand quite a bit.  What I didn't understand I asked them to say it 
in French then I got by.  I did the same in Romanian restaurants.

helen cunha kerner




From: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, January 31, 2013 1:50:31 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Island of my dreams

When I used to teach in the public schools, we had to give out the state tests. 
 
I was supposed to pace up and down the aisles while my students were testing.  
So I used to listen to the Portuguese language tapes while walking up and down 
the aisles.  After the testing was done, my Spanish speaking students (13  14 
year olds) wanted to hear the tapes.  They listened and said it sounded like 
Spanish with a French accent.  One student told me that she thought if she were 
left in Portugal, she could probably start to get by after about 2 weeks (she 
was a native Spanish speaker).

I've been told that Portuguese is supposed to be the closest to Romanian.  I've 
never heard that spoken, so I really don't know.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
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