[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching for information on Francisco De Simas / Jose Francisco De Simas / Jose Silva De Simas
Just wondering where would be the best place to start searching for these records. I am a bit of a novice at this. On Friday, January 11, 2013 12:23:56 PM UTC+13, JR wrote: If I was you, I would start looking in Pico and Sao Jorge, at and before 1842 for anyone named Simas with Silva or Leal. These records are on-line, so you might find something. JR On Tuesday, January 8, 2013 3:43:25 AM UTC-5, amy...@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hi All, I am searching for information and I am hoping someone here may be able to help me. My great great great grandfather came from Portugal. The region is unknown at present but could be somewhere around the Porto district or Azores region (this is second hand information from a relative). I think he was born approx 1814 - 1822 (Although family think it could be as late as 1836 but this doesn't match age on documents I have) and left Portugal on a whaling ship in which he jumped off in Australia. I think I have narrowed down the whaling ship to Jeannette which sailed from New Bedford in 1842 and he was listed as a boy (what does this mean?). He lived in Australia for a while then sailed on the Oliver Lang to New Zealand where I believed he changed his name from Jose Francisco de Simas to either Jose Leal de Simas or Jose Silva de Simas. I believe the Silva to be his mothers maiden name. I am seeking any information about his life but particularly information about his younger days. I dont have names for his parents or an exact location of his birth but would love to find this information out. Anyone out there that can help me : Thanks Amy -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Daniel R. Paiva
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching daSilveira/Silveira relatives
Thank you Emil and Helder for this information. I have always wondered what happened to Augustus:*son Augustus was born 25 Mar 1895 New Bedford, MA, he died 16 Mar 1897 in Dartmouth, MA.* ** The family history shared about my family: Joao was ill for a while, and before he passed away, he went to court to have his childen placed in the care of,*Frank C B Silva, a Missionary Minister of the Portuguese Baptist Church in New Bedford, MA*. (I was able to get copies of the *guardianship* records.) After Joao died in 1896, Alfred, Adelaide, Joao, Jose and Silvina were all sent to live with different families through the missionary church. Some were sent to different countries. All the children have been accounted for, accept for Adelaide. *I am not sure where she was sent to live. Besides her being on the ship log, when they immigrated, and the guardianship paperwork, I can't find any information about her. * *I am so thankful and sad, at the same time, about the youngest child Augustus **. Where you able to find his death information, through a death record?* I always wondered, because he was a baby when his parents died, if he was adopted. Yet, then I wondered, if he may have been placed in a families care, through the Missionary Church, rather than being adopted. *In the information you found, did it show Augustus' surname to be daSilveira/Silveira? * ** I thank you again for the information and guidance along this journey. Have a wonderful Holiday weekend. Fawnie (Fawn U) On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:08:49 AM UTC-4, Fawnie wrote: Good Day Everyone, I am searching my family line: da Silveira / Silveira. When they *immigrated in 1893*, their surname was da Silveira. In America, all records have Silveira. The family immigrated from Faial to New Bedford, MA in 1893. I am trying to find records, from Horta, Faial. Actually any records would be wonderful. *Joao Ignacio da Silveira* (Silveira) and *Rosa Leanora Perry Da Rosa*immigrated with seven children. One child was born in New, Bedford, soon after they *immigrated, in 1893*. They may have had more children, born in Faial, yet I am not sure. *Joao Ignacio da Silveira b. approx. 1854* (I don't have a marriage date) . *Rosa Leanora Perry Da Rosa b. 4/30/1860* in Faial. Married in Faial - date unknown Children: Manual Ignacio: b. 10/11/1878 - Faial Maria b. 08/05/1880 - Faial Alfred(o) b. 02/11/1883 - Faial Adelaide b 02/16/1886 - Faial Joao Eno b 04/13/1889 - Faial Jose b 04/26/1891 - Faial Sylvania (Silvina) b. 06/15/1893 - Faial Augustinos (Augustus) b. 03/25/1895 in New Bedford, MA As always, thank you so much, for the continued guidance you. ~Happiness and Peace~ Fawnie (Fawn U.) -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family
Geneva Altino: Martim de Oliveira Vasconcelos, filho de Rui Mendes Vasconcelos, casou com Tareja (Teresa) Velha, irma de Goncalo Velho, Capitao de Santa Maria e S. Miguel (Saudades da Terra - Livro IV/ Vol. 1/ Pg 313 314). As far as I can tell, it doesn't mention a second wife. The chapter goes on to detail the descendency of this line through his son, Diogo, but, I just wanted to focus on the question at hand. If you want to discuss the family in more detail, let me know. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching daSilveira/Silveira relatives
My grandmothers half sister had a mother who passed away in 1918, and her name was adelaide. She is a mystery to us, but i know she died in new bedford. Got married very young and had 3 children before dying of influenza. On Mar 30, 2013 8:59 AM, Fawnie fawn.un...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Emil and Helder for this information. I have always wondered what happened to Augustus:son Augustus was born 25 Mar 1895 New Bedford, MA, he died 16 Mar 1897 in Dartmouth, MA. The family history shared about my family: Joao was ill for a while, and before he passed away, he went to court to have his childen placed in the care of,Frank C B Silva, a Missionary Minister of the Portuguese Baptist Church in New Bedford, MA. (I was able to get copies of the guardianship records.) After Joao died in 1896, Alfred, Adelaide, Joao, Jose and Silvina were all sent to live with different families through the missionary church. Some were sent to different countries. All the children have been accounted for, accept for Adelaide. I am not sure where she was sent to live. Besides her being on the ship log, when they immigrated, and the guardianship paperwork, I can't find any information about her. I am so thankful and sad, at the same time, about the youngest child Augustus . Where you able to find his death information, through a death record? I always wondered, because he was a baby when his parents died, if he was adopted. Yet, then I wondered, if he may have been placed in a families care, through the Missionary Church, rather than being adopted. In the information you found, did it show Augustus' surname to be daSilveira/Silveira? I thank you again for the information and guidance along this journey. Have a wonderful Holiday weekend. Fawnie (Fawn U) On Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:08:49 AM UTC-4, Fawnie wrote: Good Day Everyone, I am searching my family line: da Silveira / Silveira. When they immigrated in 1893, their surname was da Silveira. In America, all records have Silveira. The family immigrated from Faial to New Bedford, MA in 1893. I am trying to find records, from Horta, Faial. Actually any records would be wonderful. Joao Ignacio da Silveira (Silveira) and Rosa Leanora Perry Da Rosa immigrated with seven children. One child was born in New, Bedford, soon after they immigrated, in 1893. They may have had more children, born in Faial, yet I am not sure. Joao Ignacio da Silveira b. approx. 1854 (I don't have a marriage date) . Rosa Leanora Perry Da Rosa b. 4/30/1860 in Faial. Married in Faial - date unknown Children: Manual Ignacio: b. 10/11/1878 - Faial Maria b. 08/05/1880 - Faial Alfred(o) b. 02/11/1883 - Faial Adelaide b 02/16/1886 - Faial Joao Eno b 04/13/1889 - Faial Jose b 04/26/1891 - Faial Sylvania (Silvina) b. 06/15/1893 - Faial Augustinos (Augustus) b. 03/25/1895 in New Bedford, MA As always, thank you so much, for the continued guidance you. ~Happiness and Peace~ Fawnie (Fawn U.) -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website.
CindyD, My mom used to make caçoila often. It's big in the Azorean island of Santa Maria where my relatives came from. Almost all of my aunts made caçoila. Best, helen cunha kerner Santa Maria, Azores From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, March 30, 2013 10:25:44 AM Subject: Re: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website. I hate to go off-topic, but I need some help. Since I posted this, I make cacoila at least once a year now, so my 85yr old mom gets a taste of Portuguese. I've refined the recipe from those I've collected on the web. Funny because I must have some DNA memory of it as it smells so dam familiar and comforting when it's cooking. Today is Cacciola day again. anyway, my question is, would someone please give me the correct spelling, from the Azorean way. And would someone please write it out phonetically so I know how to pronounce it. I'm sure I'm butchering it more than the beef. CindyD On Thursday, August 9, 2007 9:21:40 AM UTC-5, Cindy D wrote: Terrific web site Arlene, Thanks! I still make Fejouada once a year, but I will say my hand-me-down recipe is WAY different than the one at the site. I guess mine is an American update. (I got it handed down from a family that at one time owned a cork farm, and heard that Portuguese cork is the best in the world.) I would like to tap the brain pool here, even though it's a bit off-topic. When I was in New Bedford about 20 years ago, my mom got us carry-out what she called Portagee Barbeque, she gave the Portuguese name for it but I've long forgotten it. Now I live in Kansas City where BBQ is practically a religion, but I will say that I can still remember that Portagee fork-tender BBQ'ed meat served on a bread roll similar to french bread. Does anyone know what it was?? Or have a recipe? It's so different from the smokey, tomatoey BBQ around here, and it was to die for. It was probably a tomato based sauce as it was reddish-brown, but I swear I could taste a hint of cinnamon and maybe a dab of clove in it.could have been beef, could have been pork, I don't remember, it's been at least 20 years, but the meat would melt in your mouth even though the chunks were decent sized. It came in those white Chinese-style carry out boxes. Any ideas?? Thanks Cindy D Remembering good Portugese food from out on the scalding hot prairie. From: Arlene Marcoux Date: 8/7/2007 3:04:12 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website. Subject: Portuguese Recipes website. I was exploring on the web for Portuguese recipes and thought you might like to check out this website if don't already have it. http://fooddownunder.com/cgi- bin/search.cgi?q=portugal Arlene Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.-- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family
Some of the information in Ancestry, Roots Web, and Family Search seem to have various information but nothing consistant. The birthdates for Teresa Velho vary as well as the spelling of her last name and whether she remarried to Fernando Soares de Albergaria as I have found these records also. With Martim there is a reference to a Catarina so I don't know if he married her after Teresa or not. - Original Message - Geneva Altino: Martim de Oliveira Vasconcelos, filho de Rui Mendes Vasconcelos, casou com Tareja (Teresa) Velha, irma de Goncalo Velho, Capitao de Santa Maria e S. Miguel (Saudades da Terra - Livro IV/ Vol. 1/ Pg 313 314). As far as I can tell, it doesn't mention a second wife. The chapter goes on to detail the descendency of this line through his son, Diogo, but, I just wanted to focus on the question at hand. If you want to discuss the family in more detail, let me know. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website.
Cindy, It sounds like Bifanas to me. Pork with garlic, paprika, piri piri sauce, vin verde marinade, fried, served on rolls. Dozens of recipes on the web Eric Edgar On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: I hate to go off-topic, but I need some help. Since I posted this, I make cacoila at least once a year now, so my 85yr old mom gets a taste of Portuguese. I've refined the recipe from those I've collected on the web. Funny because I must have some DNA memory of it as it smells so dam familiar and comforting when it's cooking. Today is Cacciola day again. anyway, my question is, would someone please give me the correct spelling, from the Azorean way. And would someone please write it out phonetically so I know how to pronounce it. I'm sure I'm butchering it more than the beef. CindyD On Thursday, August 9, 2007 9:21:40 AM UTC-5, Cindy D wrote: Terrific web site Arlene, Thanks! I still make Fejouada once a year, but I will say my hand-me-down recipe is WAY different than the one at the site. I guess mine is an American update. (I got it handed down from a family that at one time owned a cork farm, and heard that Portuguese cork is the best in the world.) I would like to tap the brain pool here, even though it's a bit off-topic. When I was in New Bedford about 20 years ago, my mom got us carry-out what she called Portagee Barbeque, she gave the Portuguese name for it but I've long forgotten it. Now I live in Kansas City where BBQ is practically a religion, but I will say that I can still remember that Portagee fork-tender BBQ'ed meat served on a bread roll similar to french bread. Does anyone know what it was?? Or have a recipe? It's so different from the smokey, tomatoey BBQ around here, and it was to die for. It was probably a tomato based sauce as it was reddish-brown, but I swear I could taste a hint of cinnamon and maybe a dab of clove in it.could have been beef, could have been pork, I don't remember, it's been at least 20 years, but the meat would melt in your mouth even though the chunks were decent sized. It came in those white Chinese-style carry out boxes. Any ideas?? Thanks Cindy D Remembering good Portugese food from out on the scalding hot prairie. From: Arlene Marcoux Date: 8/7/2007 3:04:12 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website. Subject: Portuguese Recipes website. I was exploring on the web for Portuguese recipes and thought you might like to check out this website if don't already have it. http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-**bin/search.cgi?q=portugalhttp://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=portugal Arlene -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website.
Cacoila Kah - Sir' - La HOWEVER do not pronounce the word Sir with the R sound at all, but the same way you start to say the word sir stopping short of pronouncing the R. The emphasis is on the second syllable. Kah-SIR'-la (without the R Hope that helps! On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: I hate to go off-topic, but I need some help. Since I posted this, I make cacoila at least once a year now, so my 85yr old mom gets a taste of Portuguese. I've refined the recipe from those I've collected on the web. Funny because I must have some DNA memory of it as it smells so dam familiar and comforting when it's cooking. Today is Cacciola day again. anyway, my question is, would someone please give me the correct spelling, from the Azorean way. And would someone please write it out phonetically so I know how to pronounce it. I'm sure I'm butchering it more than the beef. CindyD On Thursday, August 9, 2007 9:21:40 AM UTC-5, Cindy D wrote: Terrific web site Arlene, Thanks! I still make Fejouada once a year, but I will say my hand-me-down recipe is WAY different than the one at the site. I guess mine is an American update. (I got it handed down from a family that at one time owned a cork farm, and heard that Portuguese cork is the best in the world.) I would like to tap the brain pool here, even though it's a bit off-topic. When I was in New Bedford about 20 years ago, my mom got us carry-out what she called Portagee Barbeque, she gave the Portuguese name for it but I've long forgotten it. Now I live in Kansas City where BBQ is practically a religion, but I will say that I can still remember that Portagee fork-tender BBQ'ed meat served on a bread roll similar to french bread. Does anyone know what it was?? Or have a recipe? It's so different from the smokey, tomatoey BBQ around here, and it was to die for. It was probably a tomato based sauce as it was reddish-brown, but I swear I could taste a hint of cinnamon and maybe a dab of clove in it.could have been beef, could have been pork, I don't remember, it's been at least 20 years, but the meat would melt in your mouth even though the chunks were decent sized. It came in those white Chinese-style carry out boxes. Any ideas?? Thanks Cindy D Remembering good Portugese food from out on the scalding hot prairie. From: Arlene Marcoux Date: 8/7/2007 3:04:12 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website. Subject: Portuguese Recipes website. I was exploring on the web for Portuguese recipes and thought you might like to check out this website if don't already have it. http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-**bin/search.cgi?q=portugalhttp://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=portugal Arlene -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website.
Hi, Caçoula is the spelling in Sao Miguel, and phonetically the ou sound as in moura and the ç as double ss; kassoula Margaret On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Cindy D kcci...@aol.com wrote: I hate to go off-topic, but I need some help. Since I posted this, I make cacoila at least once a year now, so my 85yr old mom gets a taste of Portuguese. I've refined the recipe from those I've collected on the web. Funny because I must have some DNA memory of it as it smells so dam familiar and comforting when it's cooking. Today is Cacciola day again. anyway, my question is, would someone please give me the correct spelling, from the Azorean way. And would someone please write it out phonetically so I know how to pronounce it. I'm sure I'm butchering it more than the beef. CindyD On Thursday, August 9, 2007 9:21:40 AM UTC-5, Cindy D wrote: Terrific web site Arlene, Thanks! I still make Fejouada once a year, but I will say my hand-me-down recipe is WAY different than the one at the site. I guess mine is an American update. (I got it handed down from a family that at one time owned a cork farm, and heard that Portuguese cork is the best in the world.) I would like to tap the brain pool here, even though it's a bit off-topic. When I was in New Bedford about 20 years ago, my mom got us carry-out what she called Portagee Barbeque, she gave the Portuguese name for it but I've long forgotten it. Now I live in Kansas City where BBQ is practically a religion, but I will say that I can still remember that Portagee fork-tender BBQ'ed meat served on a bread roll similar to french bread. Does anyone know what it was?? Or have a recipe? It's so different from the smokey, tomatoey BBQ around here, and it was to die for. It was probably a tomato based sauce as it was reddish-brown, but I swear I could taste a hint of cinnamon and maybe a dab of clove in it.could have been beef, could have been pork, I don't remember, it's been at least 20 years, but the meat would melt in your mouth even though the chunks were decent sized. It came in those white Chinese-style carry out boxes. Any ideas?? Thanks Cindy D Remembering good Portugese food from out on the scalding hot prairie. From: Arlene Marcoux Date: 8/7/2007 3:04:12 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Fw: Portuguese Recipes website. Subject: Portuguese Recipes website. I was exploring on the web for Portuguese recipes and thought you might like to check out this website if don't already have it. http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-**bin/search.cgi?q=portugalhttp://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=portugal Arlene -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.comhttp://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000982 . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Margaret M Vicente -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Daniel R. Paiva
Hi, I suspected it was you Dano, but I was not sure. I am introducing, comparing and trying to verify the data you sent me... in some cases I have different wives. As an example, I have FRANCISCO VIEIRA HOMEM, Captain married to MARIA DA COSTA DE SOUSA, Dona and (another) FRANCISCO VIEIRA HOMEM, son of the above, married to MARIA MONIZ DE MEDEIROS. My source is Rodrigo Rodrigues, Genealogias de S. Miguel e Santa Maria. Your FRANCISCO BOTELHO DA MOTA married to MARIA DE MACEDO, Dona is the brother of MARIA DE MEDEIROS who is my 11th great grandmother. Do you know if you have any of your PAIVA going to Porto Formoso? Do you have acces to Rodrigo Rodrigues Book? Hopping to help you in some way, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching S. Miguel and Graciosa: PACHECO, ARRUDA, SILVA, SOUSA, BETTENCOURT and MAINLAND, Alentejo -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[AZORES-Genealogy] John Muniz Barretto Lajes doPico to East Boston MA
John Muniz Barretto aka Joao Moniz Barreto married Mary da Gloria Valine, date / where unknown. John (1844-1932) born Lajes do Pico and Mary daGloria Valine born Piedade,Pico died 1925. Known children - Theophila 1876, Joseph 1877 Fayal, Mary 1878 Boston, Anna 1883 Boston, Barbara 1885 Boston, John 1887 Boston, William 1890 Boston. On the 1920 US census living at 643 Saratoga St, East Boston, MA. He is listed as a Sexton for a Church. Need your help... names of Catholic churches close to his address in 1920. -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family
That's very interesting but now throws off my family line. Thanks for the information - Original Message - Altino is correct. Most genealogits agree that Diogo is Martim's son by an unmarried woman, Catarina Afonso. Diogo was later legitimized by royal decree (published in the Arquivo dos Açores ) which is how we know Catarina's name. A careful reading of Frutuoso reveals that Martim came with his wife, Teresa Velho, and children to S. Miguel. They didn't like it and returned leaving Diogo behind. The assumption that all his children were were also Theresa's is merely an assumption. It is possible that Frutuoso thought (assumed) that they were, or his syntax was simply imprecise. The descendants of Diogo are not the descendants of Velho Cabral's sister. John Miranda Raposo From: Altino Demelo demelo.alt...@yahoo.com To: azores@googlegroups.com azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family I think i may have found the reference to Catarina Afonso. It is found in Rodrigo Rodrigues' Histories of São Miguel. This is Rodrigues' Words in Portuguese: Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, no dizer de Frutuoso era filho de Martim de Oliveira de Vasconcelos e de Teresa Velho, irmã de Frei Gonçalo Velho e que com seus pais viera de Portugal para esta Ilha de S. Miguel, de Beja, já casado (Vide Frutuoso, Livro IV Cap.º XXX). Contudo pode muito bem ser que este Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, seja o Diogo de Vasconcelos, escudeiro, legitimado por El-rei D. Manuel, cuja carta está publicada no Arquivo dos Açores, Vol.º V, pág.105, com data de 3.7.1504, em que se diz ser ele filho natural de Martim de Oliveira, capitão de Arzila, onde foi armado cavaleiro e confirmado por carta do Rei D. Manuel (Torre do Tombo, Chancelaria de D. Manuel, Livro IX, fls. 50 v.º), onde se diz ser Martim de Oliveira filho de Rui de Oliveira, criado da casa do Infante D. Fernando. A mãe do dito Diogo de Vasconcelos é Catarina Afonso, mulher solteira. Esta filiação é que deve ser a exacta pois da parte de Frutuoso houve certamente confusão, dando Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos como filho de uma irmã de Frei Gonçalo Velho, aliás homónima da que foi mãe do capitão donatário João Soares de Albergaria. Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, segundo Frutuoso veio de Beja casou com Maria Esteves, filha de Afonso Velho, da geração dos Velhos. And this is the translation from Google translate and my limited portuguese: Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos, in the words of Frutuoso was the son of Martim de Oliveira de Vasconcelos and Teresa Velho, sister of Frei Gonçalo Velho, and that their parents came from Beja, Portugal to this island of S. Miguel already married (see Frutuoso, Book IV Chapter XXX). However it may well be that this de Oliveira Diogo Vasconcelos, Diogo de Vasconcelos is, squire, legitimized by King Manuel, whose letter is published in the Archives of the Azores, Vol º V, pág.105, dated 07.03.1504, in which he is said to be the natural son of Martim de Oliveira, captain of Asilah, where he was knighted and confirmed by letter of King Manuel (Torre do Tombo, Chancellery of D. Manuel, Book IX, fls. V. 50. º), which is said to be the son of Martim de Oliveira, son of Rui de Oliveira, servant of the house of Prince Fernando. The mother of said Diogo Afonso de Vasconcelos is Catherine, unmarried woman. This affiliation according to Frutuoso was certainly confused, giving Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos as the son of a sister of Frei Gonçalo Velho, which was incidentally is the same name of the donee mother João Soares de Albergaria. Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos, according to Frutuoso came from Beja had married Maria Esteves, daughter of Alfonso Velho from the line of Velhos. From: ggervais1...@centurylink.net ggervais1...@centurylink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:26:36 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family I have picked up where I left off in my Cabral Family and I am a bit confused. Does anyone know anything about Martim de Oliveira Vasconcelos born abt 1445 in Beja de Alentejo, Portugal. I have that he married Catarina Afonso and Teresa Velho. Is Teresa Velho, Teresa Velho Cabral? Was Martim married twice. Is Teresa Velho Cabral the sister of Goncalo Velho Cabral? Am I on the right track. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Geneva Cook-Gervais -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family
Wow now I am more then confused. Thanks for the information - Original Message - I think i may have found the reference to Catarina Afonso. It is found in Rodrigo Rodrigues' Histories of São Miguel. This is Rodrigues' Words in Portuguese: Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, no dizer de Frutuoso era filho de Martim de Oliveira de Vasconcelos e de Teresa Velho, irmã de Frei Gonçalo Velho e que com seus pais viera de Portugal para esta Ilha de S. Miguel, de Beja, já casado (Vide Frutuoso, Livro IV Cap.º XXX). Contudo pode muito bem ser que este Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, seja o Diogo de Vasconcelos, escudeiro, legitimado por El-rei D. Manuel, cuja carta está publicada no Arquivo dos Açores, Vol.º V, pág.105, com data de 3.7.1504, em que se diz ser ele filho natural de Martim de Oliveira, capitão de Arzila, onde foi armado cavaleiro e confirmado por carta do Rei D. Manuel (Torre do Tombo, Chancelaria de D. Manuel, Livro IX, fls. 50 v.º), onde se diz ser Martim de Oliveira filho de Rui de Oliveira, criado da casa do Infante D. Fernando. A mãe do dito Diogo de Vasconcelos é Catarina Afonso, mulher solteira. Esta filiação é que deve ser a exacta pois da parte de Frutuoso houve certamente confusão, dando Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos como filho de uma irmã de Frei Gonçalo Velho, aliás homónima da que foi mãe do capitão donatário João Soares de Albergaria. Diogo de Oliveira de Vasconcelos, segundo Frutuoso veio de Beja casou com Maria Esteves, filha de Afonso Velho, da geração dos Velhos. And this is the translation from Google translate and my limited portuguese: Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos, in the words of Frutuoso was the son of Martim de Oliveira de Vasconcelos and Teresa Velho, sister of Frei Gonçalo Velho, and that their parents came from Beja, Portugal to this island of S. Miguel already married (see Frutuoso, Book IV Chapter XXX). However it may well be that this de Oliveira Diogo Vasconcelos, Diogo de Vasconcelos is, squire, legitimized by King Manuel, whose letter is published in the Archives of the Azores, Vol º V, pág.105, dated 07.03.1504, in which he is said to be the natural son of Martim de Oliveira, captain of Asilah, where he was knighted and confirmed by letter of King Manuel (Torre do Tombo, Chancellery of D. Manuel, Book IX, fls. V. 50. º), which is said to be the son of Martim de Oliveira, son of Rui de Oliveira, servant of the house of Prince Fernando. The mother of said Diogo Afonso de Vasconcelos is Catherine, unmarried woman. This affiliation according to Frutuoso was certainly confused, giving Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos as the son of a sister of Frei Gonçalo Velho, which was incidentally is the same name of the donee mother João Soares de Albergaria. Diogo Oliveira de Vasconcelos, according to Frutuoso came from Beja had married Maria Esteves, daughter of Alfonso Velho from the line of Velhos. From: ggervais1...@centurylink.net ggervais1...@centurylink.net To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 4:26:36 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cabral Family I have picked up where I left off in my Cabral Family and I am a bit confused. Does anyone know anything about Martim de Oliveira Vasconcelos born abt 1445 in Beja de Alentejo, Portugal. I have that he married Catarina Afonso and Teresa Velho. Is Teresa Velho, Teresa Velho Cabral? Was Martim married twice. Is Teresa Velho Cabral the sister of Goncalo Velho Cabral? Am I on the right track. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Geneva Cook-Gervais -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores . Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
