[AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
Hi Ellen, John and I have a common ancestor. Jose de Viveiros de Marinda and Joanna Maria da Estrella Viveiros from Bretanha. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of elle Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT Cheri, Thank you so much! By the way, I had an email from John Raposa a few years ago and my family is in his tree, he gave me lots of family info - is there anyone else out there in the same tree? Thanks again, Ellen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed
Cheryl...well I'm now VERY sure this is my g-grandfather now that I've gotten some details. If you get a nice day, I sure would like a picture of the final resting place of my g-grandparents. He is in the St Anthony section, but I'll have to find the street for you. The stone apparently names someone else as his wifeso now my curiosity is fired up. Can anyone tell me how to find the street name of a burial at St. John's? CindyD On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:16:32 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Cindy, If you can get me the section Street name they are in and the proper dates of birth death, I can take a walk down there on Friday or Saturday and take some photos for you if you'd like. (I Can see the cemetery from my living room window!). St. John's is a huge place, and if you're not quite sure where your family members are, you can easily get lost. - Cheryl On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Pam Santos pamsa...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: here are the Joseph Silva/Silvia/Sylvia death year only Joseph Silva 1935 boston 1935 Cambidge 1933 Fairhaven (That is on or near cape code) 1935 oaks bluff 1935 plymouth 1935 edgartown 1933 new bedford 1937 cambridge 1940 cambridge (Two) 1940 1937 lawrence 1938 lynn 1936 manchester 1939 medford 1936 new bedford 1940 new bedford 1939 norfolk 1936 rutland 1939 plymouth 1938 new bedford 1938 rockport 1938 Peabody 1939 New Bedford 1944 attleboro 1944 boston 1944 boston 1943 cambridge 1945 New bedford 1943 Rehoboth 1943 seekonk 1941 gloucester 1941 new bedford 1941 atteboro 1942 gloucester 1941 westport 1945 Hingham 1944 new bedford 1943 Truro 1944 gloucester 1942 arlington 1944 boston 1944 falmouth On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:46 PM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: There is a Margarida O. Sylvia but she was b. 1891 and died in 1979 buried in St. Jude Section. The book is a little difficult to go through as I have to go page by page as it is sorted by section and then by surname. Also, by obtaining the exact date of death for Joseph from the cemetery, you can email the New Bedford Public Library and ask for an obituary. I believe they now charge for this but it is minimal if memory serves me correctly. Been a while since I ordered one from them. In the meantime, I will check the Portuguese paper and see if I can find one there. E On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:31 PM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: There is another Joseph Sylvia buried in St. Anthony Section. b. 1875 d. 1942. The previous one I sent was b. 1872 and died 1945 so I think this one is probably the one you are looking for. Call the cemetery, be very nice, and ask them to look for his record. They can give you exact date of his death, etc. I will try to find his wife's record. According to this record, there is no other name on the stone. E On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:24 PM, E Sharp belle...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: St. John's Cemetery records are online at findagrave.com. It does list Joseph b. 1875 d. 1942. I have the SJ cemetery book. Joseph is buried in St. Francis Section of St. John's. He is buried with Virginia 1879-1951 and Angelina Barboza 1901-1946. Not sure if this is the right one as no Margarida listed on stone. On Findagrave.com you can request a photo of the stones and most times you will receive one. Hope this helps. E On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Mike mgilfi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: this inccludes all the old Catholic cemeteries On Monday, April 15, 2013 9:27:34 PM UTC-4, Cindy D wrote: Does anyone have the St John's Cemetery Book for a lookup. I'm desperate. Joseph Sylvia/Silvia/daSilva. Should have died in 1942 according to family, born Dec 1875 in St Miguel. His wifeMargarita/Margaret/**Margarida Silvia/Sylvia nee Pimentel, died 1939 born in Flores. If not, I had an address to someone I could write to at the cemetery but have mislaid it, does anyone have that information?? CindyD Sylvia/Pimentel -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
Dear Cousin Rick: Actually Rick, our common ancestors are the grandparents of José de Viveiros de Miranda, António Viveiros Travassos of Capelas, married on 10 May 1714 to Maria de Araújo, born 16 Oct 1682. My latest revision of my paper on the Mirandas of Bretanha runs 300pp. I do not think I will be revising it any further. The Pacheco Mirandas, Cordeiro Mirandas, Viveiros Mirandas, Mirandas de Araújo, Tavares Mirandas and the Mirandas from Santo António all have Afonso Ledo as their common ancestor. So anybody connected to any one of these Miranda branches is related to everybody else with a connection in any of these Miranda branches. The Viveiros Mirandas are nicknamed the barbeiros, i.e. barbers, which also means they were amateur surgeons. They pulled teeth, stitched up wounds, etc. They were near neighbors and worked closely with the Morgados da Lomba Grande. The house of José de Viveiros and Joana da Estrela still stands at the intersection of the Estrada Nacional and the Canada da Lomba Grande. In its time it was one of the best houses in Pilar. I remember visiting Mestre João Barbeiro in that house some 35 years ago. Regards from Cousin John Miranda Raposo From: Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections Hi Ellen, John and I have a common ancestor. Jose de Viveiros de Marinda and Joanna Maria da Estrella Viveiros from Bretanha. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores From:azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of elle Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:37 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT Cheri, Thank you so much! By the way, I had an email from John Raposa a few years ago and my family is in his tree, he gave me lots of family info - is there anyone else out there in the same tree? Thanks again, Ellen -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco
Hi Doug, Possibly a point of interest. Maria Alfonso Medeiros is shared as the 13th great grandmother of Decio and myself. I am traveling and will be back home in Orlando by the end of the week. Maybe I can add more to the subject then, or maybe not. Emil - Original Message - From: p...@dholmes.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:00:32 - (UTC) Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco If you do a lot of research in Faial records, you will surely notice many Medeiros families. Many of them undoubtedly also settled in Madalena and other Pico villages. Just now I was looking through the genealogies of the island of Graciosa called:Livro de Genealogias da Ilha Graciosa - Mateus Machado Fagundes d'Azevedo It was there that I found mention of possibly the first person named Medeiros on Faial. Her name was Maria Afonso de Medeiros, wife of Diogo Afonso Picanço.It says they were the original settlers of Faial and lived in Praia do Almoxarife. While I thought there was a great chance the Medeiros of Faial and Pico were originally from São Miguel, the fact that Maria Afonso de Medeiros came from the city of Faro on the mainland leads me to now believe she could be the source of Medeiros for these islands. I don't know if he's on this list, but an old friend of mine in Brasil named Décio de Medeiros, whose Medeiros family came from Faial, might know more about this. Maybe he will chime in here. There could be more early Medeiros people who settled in Faial with other origins. I have an ancestor named Pedro Vieira de Medeiros living in São Roque do Pico. But neither of his parents used Medeiros. I suspect his grandfather might have been one Gonçalo de Medeiros born in the late 1500s and living in Bandeiras, Pico. He could be a grandson of this Maria Afonso de Medeiros - just a guess, though. Doug da Rocha Holmes Sacramento, California Pico Terceira Genealogist 916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed
Cindy, If you call the cemetery (508-992-1079), give them his name, dates of birth and death, and the St. Anthony section, perhaps they could give you the street name. Good luck! Patricia -Original Message- From: Cindy D kcci...@aol.com To: azores azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 8:43 am Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed Cheryl...well I'm now VERY sure this is my g-grandfather now that I've gotten some details. If you get a nice day, I sure would like a picture of the final resting place of my g-grandparents. He is in the St Anthony section, but I'll have to find the street for you. The stone apparently names someone else as his wifeso now my curiosity is fired up. Can anyone tell me how to find the street name of a burial at St. John's? CindyD On Monday, April 15, 2013 10:16:32 PM UTC-5, Cheryl Lawrence wrote: Cindy, If you can get me the section Street name they are in and the proper dates of birth death, I can take a walk down there on Friday or Saturday and take some photos for you if you'd like. (I Can see the cemetery from my living room window!). St. John's is a huge place, and if you're not quite sure where your family members are, you can easily get lost. - Cheryl -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT
Final reminder...the DNA Sale will end today (Thursday) at 11:59 pm CDT (GMT -5). I will do frequent email checks for questions, and I'm guessing Rick and maybe Nancy Jean will too. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT
Greetings, Available for questions and monitoring all of the emails as they come. Wishing I had my mothers DNA for family finder..too latebut has been interesting to see that my fathers brother, John Cardoza Baptiste has matches that don't show up on my FF. Nancy Jean From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:12:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT To: azores@googlegroups.com Final reminder...the DNA Sale will end today (Thursday) at 11:59 pm CDT (GMT -5). I will do frequent email checks for questions, and I'm guessing Rick and maybe Nancy Jean will too. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco
Hi Emil,I'll look forward to it.Boa viagem.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIco From: ehsilve...@comcast.net Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 4:56 am To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi Doug,Possibly a point of interest. Maria Alfonso Medeiros is shared as the 13th great grandmother of Decio and myself. I am traveling and will be back home in Orlando by the end of the week. Maybe I can add more to the subject then, or maybe not.Emil- Original Message -From: p...@dholmes.comTo: azores@googlegroups.comSent: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:00:32 - (UTC)Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Medeiros of Faial and PIcoIf you do a lot of research in Faial records, you will surely notice many Medeiros families.Many of them undoubtedly also settled in Madalena and other Pico villages.Just now I was looking through the genealogies of the island of Graciosa called:Livro de Genealogias da Ilha Graciosa - Mateus Machado Fagundes d'Azevedo It was there that I found mention of possibly the first person named Medeiros on Faial.Her name was Maria Afonso de Medeiros, wife of Diogo Afonso Picanço.It says they were the original settlers of Faial and lived in Praia do Almoxarife.While I thought there was a great chance the Medeiros of Faial and Pico were originally from São Miguel, the fact that Maria Afonso de Medeiros came from the city of Faro on the mainland leads me to now believe she could be the source of Medeiros for these islands.I don't know if he's on this list, but an old friend of mine in Brasil named Décio de Medeiros, whose Medeiros family came from Faial, might know more about this. Maybe he will chime in here. There could be more early Medeiros people who settled in Faial with other origins.I have an ancestor named Pedro Vieira de Medeiros living in São Roque do Pico. But neither of his parents used Medeiros. I suspect his grandfather might have been one Gonçalo de Medeiros born in the late 1500s and living in Bandeiras, Pico. He could be a grandson of this Maria Afonso de Medeiros - just a guess, though.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT
Very excited to see some new matches! So far my husband and I have been tested, along with my mother, paternal uncle, and maternal uncle. Waiting on my in-laws results! On Apr 25, 2013 11:47 AM, nancy jean baptiste fishsongf...@hotmail.com wrote: Greetings, Available for questions and monitoring all of the emails as they come. Wishing I had my mothers DNA for family finder..too latebut has been interesting to see that my fathers brother, John Cardoza Baptiste has matches that don't show up on my FF. Nancy Jean -- From: gfsche...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:12:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT To: azores@googlegroups.com Final reminder...the DNA Sale will end today (Thursday) at 11:59 pm CDT (GMT -5). I will do frequent email checks for questions, and I'm guessing Rick and maybe Nancy Jean will too. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA, Luz
Do you have an approximate time period for their marriage?, and the birth of their children? I will be at the fhl library on sat and can try to look up the records. Thanks, David -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Death Record for Miguel de Souza Ataide - Graciosa
Hi David, I have some Sousa Ataíde but I am not able to relate them to this one. This is the outline of the record: Captain Miguel de Sousa Ataíde died in the 2nd of March, 1764, N. Sra. da Luz. He was 86 going to 87. He was the widower of Dona (Lady) Maria de Melo. He left a will made by the official clerk (Escrivão) Alberto Correia Pestana where he stated the way he would be buried. His son the Alferes (Military rank above the Captain rank) Manuel de Sousa Ataíde was his official will executioner (we can assume that Manuel was the eldest male son in the island). Captain Miguel was buried in another grave because his own was occupied (may be with is wife…) Captain Miguel was born around 1678/1677. None of my Manuel de Sousa Ataíde (I have three with this same name) are his son… unless I have them with the wrong parents… I have a Miguel de Sousa Ataíde, born around 1695… but from a different father. Please let me know if you have any more info on this family. Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching S. Miguel and Graciosa: PACHECO, ARRUDA, SILVA, SOUSA, BETTENCOURT and MAINLAND, Alentejo Azores Genealogy Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
Actually, I have Jose de Viveiros de Miranda and Joana Maria da Estrela Viveiros in my family tree as well. I use PAF as my database but I can't seem to figure out where they are connected - it's either through my Father's paternal side (Medeiros Grota) or my Mother's paternal side (Benevides Souza) since both were from Ajuda Brethana. How would I search the database to see where they line up? I've never had to do that before. Thanks in advance! Joanne Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
[AZORES-Genealogy] military ranks
Hi Eliseu,It could just be a typo, but I wanted to point out that Alferes is the rank just below Capitão.The only ranks above Capitão are Sargento-mor and Capitão-mor.It's always interesting to document people as they move up the ranks.They might not have any rank when married, but if their father held some rank, often they might soon be Sargento. Then maybe 5 years later they reach Alferes. Maybe soon after that, or many years later, they finally reach Capitão. And if their ancestors were some of the most important in that village, they might be able to reach Sargento-mor or Capitão-mor, or both in succession, if those posts become available upon the death of someone already holding that rank, since there is only one of each for each concelho.Atenciosamente,Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with Translation of Death Record for Miguel de Souza Ataide - Graciosa From: "Eliseu Silva" eliseuman...@gmail.com Date: Thu, April 25, 2013 2:09 pm To: azores@googlegroups.com Hi David,I have some Sousa Ataíde but I am not able to relate them to this one.This is the outline of the record:Captain Miguel de Sousa Ataíde died in the 2nd of March, 1764, N. Sra. da Luz. He was 86 going to 87. He was the widower of Dona (Lady) Maria de Melo. He left a will made by the official clerk (Escrivão) Alberto Correia Pestana where he stated the way he would be buried. His son the Alferes (Military rank above the Captain rank) Manuel de Sousa Ataíde was his official will executioner (we can assume that Manuel was the eldest male son in the island). Captain Miguel was buried in another grave because his own was occupied (may be with is wife…)Captain Miguel was born around 1678/1677. None of my Manuel de Sousa Ataíde (I have three with this same name) are his son… unless I have them with the wrong parents…I have a Miguel de Sousa Ataíde, born around 1695… but from a different father.Please let me know if you have any more info on this family. Eliseu Pacheco da SilvaResearching S. Miguel and Graciosa: PACHECO, ARRUDA, SILVA, SOUSA, BETTENCOURT and MAINLAND, AlentejoAzores Genealogy Group -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
Ok, after a little digging I figured out how to use the Relationship Calculator in the PAF. It says that I am the 4th great grand niece of Joana Maria da Estrela Viveiros with the common ancestors being Antão Soares and Maria Teresa Camara Aguiar. If anyone has any more information on these folks I could certainly use it. Thanks for giving me another branch to explore! Now if I could only find someone with more information on folks in Rabo de Peixe... Joanne Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
I am afraid that line does not go back much farther but here is what I have: Ahnentafel Chart for Joanna Maria da Estrela Viveiros First Generation 1.Joanna Maria da Estrela Viveiros was born on 23 Jan 1750 in Bretanha and married José de Viveiros de Miranda, son of José Viveiros de Miranda and Gertrudes dos Anjos Araújo on 28 Sep 1774 in Bretanha. José was born on 29 Jun 1749 in Bretanha. He died before 1803. Second Generation 2.Antão Soares was born about 1696 in S. António alem Capelas. He died on 8 Dec 1776 in Bretanha. He married Maria Tereza da Câmara de Aguiar on 18 Nov 1737 in Bretanha. 3.Maria Tereza da Câmara de Aguiar was born in Bretanha. She died on 26 Jul 1791 in Bretanha. Third Generation 4.Manuel Soares Carneiro was born about 1670 in S. António além Capelas. He died on 13 Sep 1746 in Capelas, São Miguel, Azores. He was buried in Capelas. He married about 1690 possibly in S . António. 5.Francisca Viveiros was born about 1675 in S. António além Capelas. She died on 7 Jan 1760 in S. António além Capelas. 6.Ambrósio Costa Câmara was born in 1697 in S. Mateus/S.J. Ponta Delgada. He died on 23 Dec 1735 in Bretanha. He married Maria da Costa on 25 May 1709 in Bretanha. 7.Maria da Costa . Fourth Generation 8.João Rodrigues was born about 1650. He died before 1688. He married Isabel Carneira. 9.Isabel Carneira was born about 1650. She died before 1688. 14.Manuel Álvares da Rocha was born in Bretanha. He died on 23 Oct 1726 in Bretanha. He married Maria Estevens. 15.Maria Estevens was born in Bretanha. From: Joanne Mercier musicmavene...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections Ok, after a little digging I figured out how to use the Relationship Calculator in the PAF. It says that I am the 4th great grand niece of Joana Maria da Estrela Viveiros with the common ancestors being Antão Soares and Maria Teresa Camara Aguiar. If anyone has any more information on these folks I could certainly use it. Thanks for giving me another branch to explore! Now if I could only find someone with more information on folks in Rabo de Peixe... Joanne Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections
John, I have many Viveiros from Capelas. I think your Antonio Viveiros Travassos is son of Francisco da Costa Travassos and Ana de Viveiros married in Capelas on 30 oct 1683 (CCA #27). Their son Antonio was born in Capelas on 17 oct 1685 - CCA #46, his godparent was the Priest Manuel de Sousa Aguiar. Am I right? Ana de Viveiros was a widow, but the priest didn´t mention her previous husband on the record. I found two Ana de Viveiros married in Capelas before 1683. Ana de Viveiros m. to Manuel de Oliveira (de Macedo) on 21 oct 1675 - CCA #17, and the other one m. to Miguel de Sousa Aguiar on 16 dec 1675 - CCA #26. The first one had the daughter Guiomar baptized in Capelas on 3 jun 1687 - CCA #50, so Ana de Viveiros who married Miguel de Sousa Aguiar on 1675 might be the one who married Francisco da Costa Travassos on 1683. And another clue is that the godparent of their son Antonio was the Pe. Manuel de Sousa Aguiar. Ana de Viveiros was daughter of the Alferes Gaspar de Viveiros and Ana de Oliveira, my ancestors too, and was born on 26 jul 1645 - CCA #94. I guess Ana de Viveiros married again in Capelas on 23 sep 1686 - CCA #30, to Manuel de Melo. Manoel Cesar Furtado Em quinta-feira, 25 de abril de 2013 10h12min50s UTC-3, John Raposo escreveu: Dear Cousin Rick: Actually Rick, our common ancestors are the grandparents of José de Viveiros de Miranda, António Viveiros Travassos of Capelas, married on 10 May 1714 to Maria de Araújo, born 16 Oct 1682. My latest revision of my paper on the Mirandas of Bretanha runs 300pp. I do not think I will be revising it any further. The Pacheco Mirandas, Cordeiro Mirandas, Viveiros Mirandas, Mirandas de Araújo, Tavares Mirandas and the Mirandas from Santo António all have Afonso Ledo as their common ancestor. So anybody connected to any one of these Miranda branches is related to everybody else with a connection in any of these Miranda branches. The Viveiros Mirandas are nicknamed the barbeiros, i.e. barbers, which also means they were amateur surgeons. They pulled teeth, stitched up wounds, etc. They were near neighbors and worked closely with the Morgados da Lomba Grande. The house of José de Viveiros and Joana da Estrela still stands at the intersection of the Estrada Nacional and the Canada da Lomba Grande. In its time it was one of the best houses in Pilar. I remember visiting Mestre João Barbeiro in that house some 35 years ago. Regards from Cousin John Miranda Raposo -- *From:* Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Thursday, April 25, 2013 8:32 AM *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Bretanha Connections *Hi Ellen,* * * *John and I have a common ancestor. Jose de Viveiros de Marinda and Joanna Maria da Estrella Viveiros from Bretanha.* * * *Rick* * * *Richard Francis Pimentel* *Spring, TX* *Formerly of Epping, New Hampshire * * * *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores* * * * * * * * * *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: azo...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *elle *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:37 PM *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT Cheri, Thank you so much! By the way, I had an email from John Raposa a few years ago and my family is in his tree, he gave me lots of family info - is there anyone else out there in the same tree? Thanks again, Ellen ** * * -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
[AZORES-Genealogy] 2nd extension: Family Tree DNA sale now extended to Tuesday, April 30, 11:59 pm CDT
Family Tree DNA has now extended the sale one more time to Tuesday, April 30th at 11:59 CDT. Cheri Mello Family Tree DNA Admin -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Azores Genealogy group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to azores@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/azores?hl=en.
