RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Porto Formoso Index

[Eliseu Pacheco da Silva]

Hi Márcio!

 

Podes dar mais pormenores? Tenho vários Manuel Correia, mas não casados com
Maria Carreiro…

 

Can you add some more detail? I have some Manuel Correia although they are
not married to any Maria Carreiro…

 

 

Eliseu Pacheco da Silva

Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo

(  http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel
)

 

 

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

[rondo ranch]

Thanks-Original Message-
From: Margaret Vicente 
Sent: Jan 26, 2014 12:46 PM
To: azores 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help with Raminho Baptism that does not follow the normal pattern

Doreen,Starting with the side note of record # 33 reads "um parvulo sem nome to sexo masculino" A parvulo without name of the masculine sex"There was a time when a just born baby was called parvulo and the meaning of the word may be interpreted differently today so I will refrain from giving it interpretation.
This is the record for a "rushed baptism performed by Andre Coelho Berbereia" starting on line 4, it reads: "Andre Coelho Berbereia, widower, proprietor, residing in this Parish baptized due to life endangerment an individual of the masculine sex whom he did no name and who was born in this parish" 
Margaret VicenteOn Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel rfrancispimen...@comcast.net wrote:
I see it now if I am reading it right Andre baptized the infant because of danger of death. It begins on the 4th line and on the 6th line is written por perigo de vida "life in danger".


FYI it also states Andre is a widower and a proprietor.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX



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DO you know why my 2nd Great Grandfather signed the record?

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It appears in the normal format except that the name for the boy is not given. I can't find the word which are in the margin note in my dictionary. May be someone else can recognize the words. I would check the obitos after this date (16 Jan 1884) and see if there is an infant listed with the parents' names.


Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Spring, TX


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Please help me with http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889/TER-AH-RAMINHO-B-1880-1889_item1/P108.html Entry #33. This Raminho, Terceria baptism does not follow the normal pattern. Could some one help me understand what this entry is saying. It involves my Great Great Grandfather Andre Coelho Berbereia who signed the record. Thank you Doreen Caetano.




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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lorenzo, Antony

[jane Kelly]

Thanks , I agree but there do not appear to be any other Lorenzos on the 
ship

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:49:04 PM UTC+11, rcapodc wrote:

   Jane, if he arrived at 9 years of age it seems like he would have had 
 to travel with someone. Did his parents come with him, some other relative, 
 who??? 
  
 Rosemarie 
   
  *From:* jane Kelly javascript: 
 *Sent:* Saturday, November 09, 2013 9:28 PM
 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Lorenzo, Antony
  
  I am researching my family history and want to identify Antony or 
 Anthony Lorenzo who arrived in Australia on Triton in 1861 at age of 9 
 years - this information is from his naturalisation papers in Australia and 
 he list his parents as and Manuel and Maria and his birth place as Flores, 
 West Island, Azores , Azores on these papers. He would have been born about 
 1854. I am hoping someone else may also be related and give me some further 
 information. He married and had children in Australia with his son Francis 
 Maxwell De Frayer Lorenzo being my great great grandfather. regards Jane 
 Kelly.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao

[Aaron Pereira]

 Hello,

I am attempting to identify a name for a child born to Lourence de Mello 
and Joanna de Souza.  The baptism is top, right side of page.  I can't 
figure out the name.

  Here is the link:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1700-1714/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1700-1714_item1/P54.html

Thank you all in advance.  

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Lorenzo, Antony

[jane Kelly]

Thank you - Anthony married Agnes Eliza McGirty in Sydney NSW in 1874 aged 
22 years. The other information I have comes from his naturalisation 
certificate on 9 August 1888.
he died 4 April 1905 in Balmain , Sydney  aged 54 years, I have the 
marriage certificate 16.2.1874 his parents are listed as Manuel Lorenzo ( 
Sailor) and Mary -  rights of roman catholic church. Also have his death 
certificate but have not been able to find anything about his parents or 
life before Australia

Only references to birth that I have are:
- his marriage certificate -16.2.1874  lists him as a sailor aged 23 years
- his naturalisation certificate - 9 august 1888 - lists him arriving in 
Australia in 1861, and advising he is 34 years old, says he is a native of 
Flores, West Island, Azores
- his first son was named Antoni George on his birth certificate ( 
3.11.1877 in Balmain Sydney) and the father is named as Antoni George 
Larence - Mariner , aged 27 from Portugal

I do not have a birth date yet - but will shortly visit his grave in 
Rookwood cemetery and that might help with a date of birth


Jane, 

 I've worked with 2 other people who had ancestors from Flores, Azores who 
 immigrated to Australia or New Zealand. I'm familiar with the databases 
 available for Australian passenger and shipping lists. 
 I've checked a number of databases, but none showed a Triton arrival for 
 1861. That particular year has a gap in the records of ships arriving at 
 New South Wales. 

 The son's name with the de Frayer may give a clue, likely originally 
 being: de Fraga.   Who did Anthony Lorenzo marry ?

 Can you give some more information; his birthdate, marriage information ? 
  With birth information he may be found in the parish baptism records of 
 Flores at the CCA - azores government archives site


 Eric Edgar


 On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM, jane Kelly 
 jane@tafe.nsw.edu.aujavascript:
  wrote:

 I am researching my family history and want to identify Antony or Anthony 
 Lorenzo who arrived in Australia on Triton in 1861 at age of 9 years - 
 this information is from his naturalisation papers in Australia and he list 
 his parents as and Manuel and Maria and his birth place as Flores, West 
 Island, Azores , Azores on these papers. He would have been born about 
 1854. I am hoping someone else may also be related and give me some further 
 information. He married and had children in Australia with his son Francis 
 Maxwell De Frayer Lorenzo being my great great grandfather. regards Jane 
 Kelly.
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Identification of child's name baptized in Rosto de Cao

[Cheri Mello]

Aaron P,

Guiomar

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[Herb]

Hello 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707_item1/P60.html


I was wondering if someone might be able to put a second set of eyes on 
this marriage record from 11 March  1652 in Sao Roque Sao Miguel? It is on 
 the top right hand side.  The groom's name appears to be Ignacio da Costa 
and his parents possibly as Francisco de  and Isabel Correia or 
Cordeira, Cordeiro???,  and the bride's name looks like Maria D'Arruda and  
her parents as Miguel ??? and Isabel de Sousa???


thanks in advance for your help



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[mnk]

Herb,
Here is what I see:
Ignacio da Costa son of Manoel Ferreira and Isabel Cordeira, They are from 
Mae e Deus, Povoacao.
Bride looks like Maria d'Arruda daughter of Miguel Martins and Isabel de 
Sousa residents of Sao Roque.  
By the way, the year is 1662 not 1652.
Maria Natalia
On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:52:34 AM UTC-6, Herb wrote:


 Hello 


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1622-1707_item1/P60.html


 I was wondering if someone might be able to put a second set of eyes on 
 this marriage record from 11 March  1652 in Sao Roque Sao Miguel? It is on 
  the top right hand side.  The groom's name appears to be Ignacio da Costa 
 and his parents possibly as Francisco de  and Isabel Correia or 
 Cordeira, Cordeiro???,  and the bride's name looks like Maria D'Arruda and  
 her parents as Miguel ??? and Isabel de Sousa???


 thanks in advance for your help





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[Cheri Mello]

Lovely.  One with the wash/solution on it.  When they came by to film in
the 1980s, the camera picked up the solution.  The Ponta Delgada archives
did not scan the books (which I believe eliminated this problem).  They
scanned the film. So we have to put up with the wash/solution.

The groom looks like Ignacio da Costa, son of Manuel (M.el) Ferreira??
(F.ra?) and of his wife, Isabel Cord... (Cordeiro?).   The bride is _
de Arruda, daughter of Miguel M.iz?? (Martins) and Isabel de Sousa.

That's my best take on it.  Before 10 a.m.  Before caffeine.  LOL

Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with a translation

[mnk]

Your translation is pretty good, you just have the names reversed for some 
reason. Keep the name as written, Manoel Viera de Macedo, Property owner.  
When you see Receberam, it just indicates the parish where the couple was 
received, in other words where they were married.
Maria Natalia
On Monday, January 27, 2014 5:15:00 AM UTC-6, David J Lima wrote:

 I've attempted to translate my GGF's baptism, Entry #5 of Sao Roque 1884:

 *Em do vinte cinco dias do mes de fevereiro do ano de mil oito centos 
 oitenta e quatro Nesta Parochial Igreja de Nossa Senhora de Ajuda do 
 Concelho de Sao Roque da ilha do Pico diocese da Angra, baptizei 
 solemnemente um individuo do sexo masculino, a quem dei o nome de Manoel, e 
 que nasceu nesta freguesia, as duas horas da tarde do dia vinte e dois do 
 corrente mes e ano, filho legitimo de Manoel Vieira de Macedo, 
 proprietario, e de Francisca Marianna do Nascimento, domestica, naturaes, 
 paroquianos e moradores nesta freguesia, onde de receberam neto paterno de 
 Manoel Vieira de Macedo e de Isabel Ignacia, e materno de Manoel Avernas de 
 Silveira e de Francisca de Jesus. farão padrinhos os avos maternos os quaes 
 todos sei serem os proprios. E para constar se lavrou em duplicado esta 
 assento, que depois de ser lido e conferido perante os padrinhos comigo nao 
 assignaram por nao saberem escrever. Era ut supra.*

 What I have so far:

 On the twenty fifth day of February in the year one thousand eight hundred 
 eighty-four in this Parochial Church of Our Lady of Help in the 
 municipality of Sao Roque of Pico Island, Diocese of Angra, I have solemnly 
 baptized an individual male, to whom I gave the name of Manoel, and was 
 born in this parish, two o'clock in the afternoon of the twenty-second day 
 of the current month and year, legitimate son of Manoel de Macedo Vieira, 
 homeowner(?), and born to Francisca Marianna, housewife(?), natives, 
 parishioners and residents in this parish, which received the paternal 
 grandson of Manoel de Macedo Vieira and Isabel Ignacia, and the maternal 
 grandson of Manoel Avernas Silveira and Francisca de Jesus. The godparents 
 will be the maternal grandparents, quaes(?) everyone be their own. This 
 record was filed in duplicate this sitting, which was read and confirmed 
 before godparents with me for not knowing how to write. Era ut supra [Latin]

 Thanks for any input on this translation you can offer 

 Dave


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[Herb]

Thank you Cheri and Maria Natalia.  I will do some crosschecks with the 
Povoacao records but it looks right. The wash solution makes it even 
tougher than usual. That's pretty good reading for not having any caffeine. 
Herb



On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:04:20 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Lovely.  One with the wash/solution on it.  When they came by to film in 
 the 1980s, the camera picked up the solution.  The Ponta Delgada archives 
 did not scan the books (which I believe eliminated this problem).  They 
 scanned the film. So we have to put up with the wash/solution.

 The groom looks like Ignacio da Costa, son of Manuel (M.el) Ferreira?? 
 (F.ra?) and of his wife, Isabel Cord... (Cordeiro?).   The bride is _ 
 de Arruda, daughter of Miguel M.iz?? (Martins) and Isabel de Sousa.

 That's my best take on it.  Before 10 a.m.  Before caffeine.  LOL

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada 


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with mothers name - Flamengos, Faial

[mnk]

Mother's name looks like Rozaria Vicencia to me.
Maria Natalia
On Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:03:32 PM UTC-6, Lee wrote:

 Thanks Hermano.
  

 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:53:49 PM UTC-5, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

 Hello Lee
 I see Maria Vicencia, the M looks identical to the one in the child's 
 name
  
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 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with mothers name - Flamengos, Faial

 I need help with the baptismal of Maria (middle of left page).
  
 Her father is Francisco Garcia DuarteI cannot read the mothers 
 name.
  
 Looks like it may be Roza/Maria? Vicenlia/Nicolia  I cannot make this 
 one out at all.
  
 Help!
  

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1804-1822/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-B-1804-1822_item1/P65.html
  
 Thanks - greatly!
  
 Lee, Oak Hill WV

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[mc64738]

Herb,

Miguel Martins and Isabel de Sousa married in São Roque on 14 sep 1635 (CCA 
#21).
He is the son of Manuel Martins and Maria Alvares, from São Roque
She is the dau. of Manuel Vaz de Sousa and Maria Gomes, from Maia

Manoel

Em segunda-feira, 27 de janeiro de 2014 15h50min04s UTC-2, Herb escreveu:

 Thank you Cheri and Maria Natalia.  I will do some crosschecks with the 
 Povoacao records but it looks right. The wash solution makes it even 
 tougher than usual. That's pretty good reading for not having any caffeine. 
 Herb



 On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:04:20 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Lovely.  One with the wash/solution on it.  When they came by to film in 
 the 1980s, the camera picked up the solution.  The Ponta Delgada archives 
 did not scan the books (which I believe eliminated this problem).  They 
 scanned the film. So we have to put up with the wash/solution.

 The groom looks like Ignacio da Costa, son of Manuel (M.el) Ferreira?? 
 (F.ra?) and of his wife, Isabel Cord... (Cordeiro?).   The bride is _ 
 de Arruda, daughter of Miguel M.iz?? (Martins) and Isabel de Sousa.

 That's my best take on it.  Before 10 a.m.  Before caffeine.  LOL

 Cheri Mello
 Listowner, Azores-Gen
 Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
 Tainhas, Achada 



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Genealogy Conference in Salt Lake City, Utah, April 15-18, 2014

[Cheri Mello]

NOTE: The date to register for the Salt Lake Plaza Hotel is Friday, March
14th, NOT the 21st as stated.  The correction will be made and posted.

Sorry!
Cheri

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean Genealogy Workshops

[Steve Wright]

Sorry - did not come through correctly!!

Colleen Wright


On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 6:36 PM, joao ventura hero...@yahoo.com wrote:


  This year I am returning to California to do some workshops on genealogy
 research. See attached information for details.

  There is a limit of 10 people for each workshop.

  Please feel free to share the flyer with who you think may be interested.

  Regards,

  João Ventura
  Terceira

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Roque Marriage 1652

[Herb]

Amazing.  Thank you Manoel.  Apparently Miguel Martins daughter was  was 
only 17 when she married.

Herb

On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:00:53 PM UTC-5, mc6...@gmail.com wrote:

 Herb,

 Miguel Martins and Isabel de Sousa married in São Roque on 14 sep 1635 
 (CCA #21).
 He is the son of Manuel Martins and Maria Alvares, from São Roque
 She is the dau. of Manuel Vaz de Sousa and Maria Gomes, from Maia

 Manoel

 Em segunda-feira, 27 de janeiro de 2014 15h50min04s UTC-2, Herb escreveu:

 Thank you Cheri and Maria Natalia.  I will do some crosschecks with the 
 Povoacao records but it looks right. The wash solution makes it even 
 tougher than usual. That's pretty good reading for not having any caffeine. 
 Herb



 On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:04:20 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:

 Lovely.  One with the wash/solution on it.  When they came by to film in 
 the 1980s, the camera picked up the solution.  The Ponta Delgada archives 
 did not scan the books (which I believe eliminated this problem).  They 
 scanned the film. So we have to put up with the wash/solution.

 The groom looks like Ignacio da Costa, son of Manuel (M.el) Ferreira?? 
 (F.ra?) and of his wife, Isabel Cord... (Cordeiro?).   The bride is _ 
 de Arruda, daughter of Miguel M.iz?? (Martins) and Isabel de Sousa.

 That's my best take on it.  Before 10 a.m.  Before caffeine.  LOL

 Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[Mike]

Hi Rosemarie,
that's the same addy I used, I just clicked on the link you just said and I 
got the same thing, nothing from Pico works for me, the other islands come 
up. But Pico says error: could not locate...

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:45:15 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 I looked for a previous thread for this but couldn't
 Is there an issue with the listings for the Island of Pico? I get a file 
 not found error. Yet when I try Faial, it works for me with no issues.

 Mike
 Piedade, Pico; Cedros Faial


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[Kathy Cardoza]

Mike

I didn't see what URL that Rosemarie gave you, but I use this one and Pico 
comes up just as it should:

http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/genealogias.html

If that's what you tried and still get a negative result, try clearing out your 
browsers cache files. 
Kathy 

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 On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Mike mgilfilia...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Rosemarie,
 that's the same addy I used, I just clicked on the link you just said and I 
 got the same thing, nothing from Pico works for me, the other islands come 
 up. But Pico says error: could not locate...
 
 On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:45:15 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
 I looked for a previous thread for this but couldn't
 Is there an issue with the listings for the Island of Pico? I get a file not 
 found error. Yet when I try Faial, it works for me with no issues.
 
 Mike
 Piedade, Pico; Cedros Faial
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[rcapodc]

Mike, I wonder if it’s your browser? I use Explorer. Why don’t you try Firefox 
or some other browser. You just never know what is going to work! Good luck. 

Rosemarie 

From: Mike 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 11:20 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

Hi Rosemarie,
that's the same addy I used, I just clicked on the link you just said and I got 
the same thing, nothing from Pico works for me, the other islands come up. But 
Pico says error: could not locate...

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:45:15 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote: 
  I looked for a previous thread for this but couldn't
  Is there an issue with the listings for the Island of Pico? I get a file not 
found error. Yet when I try Faial, it works for me with no issues.

  Mike
  Piedade, Pico; Cedros Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[Cheri Mello]

Mike G,

I'm getting it to work. I'm on Firefox.  Try clearing the cache and cookies
as Kathy suggested.

Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean Genealogy Workshops

[Cheri Mello]

That one came through clear on my end.  No gibberish (looked like you had a
cat that took a walk on your keyboard: FDKJHE9R9U3E0WINKJZSDBFIUAEYRI0DJ)
Like that!  LOL

Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Portugal

[blackice430]

Hello, 
  
Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that are 
looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de Acores. that 
we use. 
  
I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, and 
obites. 
  
Pat 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean Genealogy Workshops

[celeste perry]

OK, Joao.  I have begun a list of those that have contacted me and have sent 
you a cc of the return email I sent to them so you are aware of the people who 
have contacted me for further information.
Hugs, Celeste 
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com



On Monday, January 27, 2014 12:18 PM, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote:
  
That one came through clear on my end.  No gibberish (looked like you had a cat 
that took a walk on your keyboard: FDKJHE9R9U3E0WINKJZSDBFIUAEYRI0DJ) Like 
that!  LOL


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Achada  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Portugal

[Cheri Mello]

The Torro de Tombo.  Joao C. Ventura, the computer guru, has a web site
that has the up to date info.  He'll post it here.
Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

[João Ventura]

Hi Pat,

That João Ventura is me. There are many sites, one for each district. And 
there's a lot of stuff travelling between the local parishes and the 
capital. Simply use the site I'm building, and it should be a lot easier to 
navigate:

http://tombo.pt

I'd recommend it also for the Azores research. Ever since I started using 
my site, I can't get used to the 10-record per page layout of the CCA. It 
also shows the NEPS pages for the parish, if that exists. But then again, 
I'm biased :) Feel free to reply if there's anything you don't understand. 
I have no ideia if the site is easy to use by others, or not.

Regards,

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt

On Monday, 27 January 2014 21:54:02 UTC+1, Pat Sylvia wrote:

 Hello, 
  
 Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that 
 are looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de 
 Acores. that we use.
  
 I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, 
 and obites.
  
 Pat


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

[rcapodc]

Wow Joao C., I really like your site for searching! I’m in the Azores and I 
like the list of baptisms/marriages/obitos all on one page! So much easier to 
navigate! Thank you for your trouble.  If you could do the same with the 
newspapers of the Azores it would be great and maybe the unpublished 
manuscripts?? It’s really so hard to navigate the CCA site for them. 

Thanks, Rosemarie 


From: João Ventura 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:59 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

Hi Pat, 

That João Ventura is me. There are many sites, one for each district. And 
there's a lot of stuff travelling between the local parishes and the capital. 
Simply use the site I'm building, and it should be a lot easier to navigate:

http://tombo.pt

I'd recommend it also for the Azores research. Ever since I started using my 
site, I can't get used to the 10-record per page layout of the CCA. It also 
shows the NEPS pages for the parish, if that exists. But then again, I'm biased 
:) Feel free to reply if there's anything you don't understand. I have no ideia 
if the site is easy to use by others, or not.

Regards,

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt


On Monday, 27 January 2014 21:54:02 UTC+1, Pat Sylvia wrote: 
  Hello, 


  Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that are 
looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de Acores. that 
we use.

  I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, and 
obites.

  Pat
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[Mike]

I'm using firefox, I hate IE:, I can get Pico to work now, but for some 
reason it can't find people that I know are from Piedade in my tree,  I 
cleared my cache, my history, my cookies, made sure browser up to date. so 
I don't get it. I can get info from every other island and village except 
fpr the one I desire to look at...
I'll have to try something else I suppose...

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:45:15 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 I looked for a previous thread for this but couldn't
 Is there an issue with the listings for the Island of Pico? I get a file 
 not found error. Yet when I try Faial, it works for me with no issues.

 Mike
 Piedade, Pico; Cedros Faial


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

[João Ventura]

Thanks Rosemarie,

I'm glad you liked it. I'm not plannig on indexing those 'digital library' 
items at the moment. Mostly as there's no easy way to categorize them in 
the site. But I promise to think about it somehow.

I'll index the passports soon, and I need to do the same to the 18 mainland 
Portugal sites. And there's also the 'de genere' priest applications to be 
indexed

Best regards,

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt

On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:41:37 UTC+1, rcapodc wrote:

   Wow Joao C., I really like your site for searching! I’m in the Azores 
 and I like the list of baptisms/marriages/obitos all on one page! So much 
 easier to navigate! Thank you for your trouble.  If you could do the same 
 with the newspapers of the Azores it would be great and maybe the 
 unpublished manuscripts?? It’s really so hard to navigate the CCA site for 
 them. 
  
 Thanks, Rosemarie 
  
   
  *From:* João Ventura 
 *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 2:59 PM
 *To:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
 *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal
  
  Hi Pat, 
  
 That João Ventura is me. There are many sites, one for each district. And 
 there's a lot of stuff travelling between the local parishes and the 
 capital. Simply use the site I'm building, and it should be a lot easier to 
 navigate:
  
 http://tombo.pt
  
 I'd recommend it also for the Azores research. Ever since I started using 
 my site, I can't get used to the 10-record per page layout of the CCA. It 
 also shows the NEPS pages for the parish, if that exists. But then again, 
 I'm biased :) Feel free to reply if there's anything you don't understand. 
 I have no ideia if the site is easy to use by others, or not.
  
 Regards,
  
 João Ventura
 http://tombo.pt
  
 On Monday, 27 January 2014 21:54:02 UTC+1, Pat Sylvia wrote: 

  Hello, 
  
 Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that 
 are looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de 
 Acores. that we use.
  
 I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, 
 and obites.
  
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

[blackice430]

Thanks Joao, I will let you know if I need help. 
Pat 

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To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 5:59:57 PM 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal 

Hi Pat, 

That João Ventura is me. There are many sites, one for each district. And 
there's a lot of stuff travelling between the local parishes and the capital. 
Simply use the site I'm building, and it should be a lot easier to navigate: 

http://tombo.pt 

I'd recommend it also for the Azores research. Ever since I started using my 
site, I can't get used to the 10-record per page layout of the CCA. It also 
shows the NEPS pages for the parish, if that exists. But then again, I'm biased 
:) Feel free to reply if there's anything you don't understand. I have no ideia 
if the site is easy to use by others, or not. 

Regards, 

João Ventura 
http://tombo.pt 

On Monday, 27 January 2014 21:54:02 UTC+1, Pat Sylvia wrote: 


Hello, 
  
Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that are 
looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de Acores. that 
we use. 
  
I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, and 
obites. 
  
Pat 





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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

[rcapodc]

Thanks! I’ll look forward to your indexing short cuts!  Rosemarie 

From: João Ventura 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:34 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

Thanks Rosemarie, 

I'm glad you liked it. I'm not plannig on indexing those 'digital library' 
items at the moment. Mostly as there's no easy way to categorize them in the 
site. But I promise to think about it somehow.

I'll index the passports soon, and I need to do the same to the 18 mainland 
Portugal sites. And there's also the 'de genere' priest applications to be 
indexed

Best regards,

João Ventura
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On Tuesday, 28 January 2014 00:41:37 UTC+1, rcapodc wrote: 
  Wow Joao C., I really like your site for searching! I’m in the Azores and I 
like the list of baptisms/marriages/obitos all on one page! So much easier to 
navigate! Thank you for your trouble.  If you could do the same with the 
newspapers of the Azores it would be great and maybe the unpublished 
manuscripts?? It’s really so hard to navigate the CCA site for them. 

  Thanks, Rosemarie 


  From: João Ventura 
  Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:59 PM
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Portugal

  Hi Pat, 

  That João Ventura is me. There are many sites, one for each district. And 
there's a lot of stuff travelling between the local parishes and the capital. 
Simply use the site I'm building, and it should be a lot easier to navigate:

  http://tombo.pt

  I'd recommend it also for the Azores research. Ever since I started using my 
site, I can't get used to the 10-record per page layout of the CCA. It also 
shows the NEPS pages for the parish, if that exists. But then again, I'm biased 
:) Feel free to reply if there's anything you don't understand. I have no ideia 
if the site is easy to use by others, or not.

  Regards,

  João Ventura
  http://tombo.pt


  On Monday, 27 January 2014 21:54:02 UTC+1, Pat Sylvia wrote: 
Hello, 


Does anyone know if there is a site that has information for people that 
are looking up family in Portugal, like the Centro de Conhecimentos de Acores. 
that we use.

I have a friend that wants to look up some birth certifcates , marriage, 
and obites.

Pat
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[rcapodc]

I’m sorry that you are having so much trouble Mike. Would it have anything to 
do with “Java”? I know it happened to me at work one time and I had to update 
Java and it worked! Don’t ask me what/why but that’s what happened!  Rosemarie 


From: Mike 
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 4:26 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

I'm using firefox, I hate IE:, I can get Pico to work now, but for some reason 
it can't find people that I know are from Piedade in my tree,  I cleared my 
cache, my history, my cookies, made sure browser up to date. so I don't get it. 
I can get info from every other island and village except fpr the one I desire 
to look at...
I'll have to try something else I suppose...

On Sunday, January 26, 2014 4:45:15 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote: 
  I looked for a previous thread for this but couldn't
  Is there an issue with the listings for the Island of Pico? I get a file not 
found error. Yet when I try Faial, it works for me with no issues.

  Mike
  Piedade, Pico; Cedros Faial

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you

[John Vasconcelos]

Pat Corbera? Welcome back stranger! It's been a few years since we've
communicated. Dartmouth, Mass you say. You might know my cousin Enid
(Vasconcellos) Silva. Her father was my first cousin.

 About 65 degrees in South Pasadena, Ca (But boy, are we having a drought
to say nothing of the brush fires!)
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 I'm sure I'll need more help here and there soon.
 Thanks again and may God Bless you all

 17 degrees in Dartmouth Ma.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you

[George Pacheco]

John its Pat (Mello ) Sylvia


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:39 PM, John Vasconcelos gfsjo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pat Corbera? Welcome back stranger! It's been a few years since we've
 communicated. Dartmouth, Mass you say. You might know my cousin Enid
 (Vasconcellos) Silva. Her father was my first cousin.

  About 65 degrees in South Pasadena, Ca (But boy, are we having a drought
 to say nothing of the brush fires!)
 John Vasconcelos



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record-Miguel Dos Santos Simas-Santo Amaro, Pico-2 Sep 1808

[Evee Silva Kiler]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1801-1821/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1801-1821_item1/P49.html

I am struggling with this baptism record for Migueltop right record.

There are lots of abbreviations I do not understand.  

*First three lines*:  I understand that Miguel's mother, Anna Catherina was 
single and his father was incognito (unknown).  

I think those are names of two individuals between the words incognito 
and de funto (deceased), but I can only guess that they are Francisco 
Viera da Fraga and his wife ??? I cannot read the name.  There is what 
appears to be JEM (which also appears in the record below Miguel's).  I 
don't get that whole phrase between the unknown father and the information 
about Miguel's birth date.  Who are these people to Miguel and who is/are 
deceased?

*Line 5*:  I don't know what the words mean right after baptizado and 
before O Vigario (the Vicar)

*Line 7*:  Is this saying that his godmother is Genovefa Francisca wife of 
Antonio Joaquim Albarnaz?   

*Lines 8 - 11*:  I'm struggling with these lines, too.  The phrases seem to 
include different words from what I've seen before.

Sobottom line...I don't have much certainty about the record and could 
use some (lots of) help.  I went out on a limb and included my guesses.

Miguel is my third great grandfather.  Full name:  Miguel Dos Santos Simas

As an aside, in Miguel's marriage record, his mother is listed as Anna 
Josepha, so I'm gathering evidence (practicing reading records) to make 
sure I have the correct individual(s).  I understand from reading other 
posts to this forum that sometimes people are known by different names, 
i.e. Anna Josepha in her son's marriage record/Anna Catherina in her son's 
baptism record.

Evee

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record-Miguel Dos Santos Simas-Santo Amaro, Pico-2 Sep 1808

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Miguel Son of Anna Catherina and Father unknown daughter  of Francisco Vieira 
Fraga and Catherina de Jesus being deceased (defunta) Born 2 Sep 1808. Baptized 
under conditions of necessity (This next part I am not sure of but before O 
vigario it looks like Ignacio Perreira) the midwife (madrinha) Genoviva 
Francisca wife of Antonio Joaquim (Alvares?) and it looks like it says they are 
from the parish

 

I think others can add more to what I have said. 

 

 

 

Rick

 

Richard Francis Pimentel

Spring, TX

 

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evee Silva Kiler
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:42 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Baptism Record-Miguel Dos Santos Simas-Santo Amaro, 
Pico-2 Sep 1808

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1801-1821/PIC-SR-SANTOAMARO-B-1801-1821_item1/P49.html

I am struggling with this baptism record for Migueltop right record.

There are lots of abbreviations I do not understand.  

First three lines:  I understand that Miguel's mother, Anna Catherina was 
single and his father was incognito (unknown).  

I think those are names of two individuals between the words incognito and 
de funto (deceased), but I can only guess that they are Francisco Viera da 
Fraga and his wife ??? I cannot read the name.  There is what appears to be JEM 
(which also appears in the record below Miguel's).  I don't get that whole 
phrase between the unknown father and the information about Miguel's birth 
date.  Who are these people to Miguel and who is/are deceased?

Line 5:  I don't know what the words mean right after baptizado and before O 
Vigario (the Vicar)

Line 7:  Is this saying that his godmother is Genovefa Francisca wife of 
Antonio Joaquim Albarnaz?   

Lines 8 - 11:  I'm struggling with these lines, too.  The phrases seem to 
include different words from what I've seen before.

Sobottom line...I don't have much certainty about the record and could use 
some (lots of) help.  I went out on a limb and included my guesses.

Miguel is my third great grandfather.  Full name:  Miguel Dos Santos Simas

As an aside, in Miguel's marriage record, his mother is listed as Anna Josepha, 
so I'm gathering evidence (practicing reading records) to make sure I have the 
correct individual(s).  I understand from reading other posts to this forum 
that sometimes people are known by different names, i.e. Anna Josepha in her 
son's marriage record/Anna Catherina in her son's baptism record.

Evee

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Mihno site(Neps)

[Cheri Mello]

Mike G,

Are you using the modern Portuguese spelling of the names?  Or were you
afflicted with the Fancy Finger disease (you typed Maira instead of Maria)?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] thank you

[Cheri Mello]

Pat Corbera is on the Madeira list.  I think she's 100% Madeiran and has
nothing from the Azores.

Another reason we really should get in the habit of signing our last
names.  There's only 1150+ people on this list and I'm sure there are many,
many Pats.

Cheri Mello
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Looking for marriage record of Louis de Sousa Theresa Pavao - Candelaria/Feteiras/Mosteiros, Sao Miguel

[Kawika322]

I have been trying to find the marriage record of Louis de Sousa and 
Theresa Pavao, most likely from Candelaria, Sao Miguel. As far as I can 
tell, their first child was Maria Theresa de Espirito Santo, born 8 May 
1747 in Candelaria, Sao Miguel. From that record, it states that Louis de 
Sousa was from Feteiras, Sao Miguel, and Theresa Pavao was from Mosteiros, 
Sao Miguel. I have also browsed the marriage recs a while back in Mosteiros 
and Feteiras but did not see anything. 

If anyone comes across the marriage record, or has info on this couple it 
would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks, 

   David

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Looking for marriage record of Louis de Sousa Theresa Pavao - Candelaria/Feteiras/Mosteiros, Sao Miguel

[Kawika322]

Update: Record found..

In looking in the Mosteiros marriages, I managed to find the record I was 
looking for. They were married 15 Feb 1745.

On Monday, January 27, 2014 10:11:24 PM UTC-8, Kawika322 wrote:

 I have been trying to find the marriage record of Louis de Sousa and 
 Theresa Pavao, most likely from Candelaria, Sao Miguel. As far as I can 
 tell, their first child was Maria Theresa de Espirito Santo, born 8 May 
 1747 in Candelaria, Sao Miguel. From that record, it states that Louis de 
 Sousa was from Feteiras, Sao Miguel, and Theresa Pavao was from Mosteiros, 
 Sao Miguel. I have also browsed the marriage recs a while back in Mosteiros 
 and Feteiras but did not see anything. 

 If anyone comes across the marriage record, or has info on this couple it 
 would be greatly appreciated. 

 Thanks, 

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