Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Gracias of New Bedford, MA

2014-04-18 Thread F Souza
my aunt Mary Souza from Stonington Connecticut was married to a man named
Gracia, but the marriage was short-lived because he died at a very young
age.  I think they were married in Fall River, and that is all I know of
him-not even what his first name was, but the dates given here are very
close. It is possible that they married here in Stonington, CT.



On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Liliana Harris wrote:

> I’m looking into a branch of the Gracia (Grace) family in and around New
> Bedford, MA. Father: Joseph. Mother: Emma, born in Azores about 1890. In
> this case, I can trace both to their antecedents, but the children, Gilbert
> and Nora (also known as Leonora) seem to disappear after 1920. I can
> understand the disappearance of the daughter, since she was older and might
> have married and taken her husband’s name, but I haven’t been able to find
> the son (even in death records) after the age of 5. Has anyone heard of
> this family or have leads on where to look next? Thank you.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Half-Orphans

2014-04-18 Thread Liliana Harris


I’m fairly certain I have the answer to that. On Azores GenWeb, which is a 
terrific source of information (Forgive me if I’m reporting something most 
of the group already knows.), there was a book on the Azores —part fiction, 
part non-fiction—reviewed. The fiction part is supposedly well-researched, 
and so far everything I’ve read has checked out. Embedded in the fiction of 
the book, there is reference to half orphans: *children with both parents 
living who could no longer be fully supported by the parents*. They lived 
in institutions along with children without parents, and their parents paid 
small amounts for their room and board. They kept their own names but could 
be farmed out to private homes--sort of like foster children. I did a bit 
of research of my own on this, and apparently it was not common at the turn 
of the century but it was done.

On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:40:52 PM UTC-7, Grace CM wrote:
>
> Does anyone know what “half-orphan” in a California school record from 
> 1918 might mean? Unless I’m mistaken, the child has two living parents.
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translating Passport Records

2014-04-18 Thread Liliana Harris
Hi Eliseu,

Thank you. This is interesting and confirms what I was thinking. You have 
been *so* helpful.

Liliana

On Monday, April 14, 2014 4:18:39 AM UTC-7, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote:

> Hi Liliana,
>
>  
>
> The last column name is OBS (Observações = Remarks) It says “Afiançado 
> para o recrutamento”. This means that he has paid the bail for the army, so 
> he could leave abroad.
>
>  
>
> Hope it helps.
>
>  
>
> *De:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *Em nome de *Liliana Harris
> *Enviada:* domingo, 13 de Abril de 2014 18:07
> *Para:* azo...@googlegroups.com 
> *Assunto:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translating Passport Records
>
>  
>
> Thank you, Cheri, that is helpful. It's fortunate that the Ponta Delgada 
> records are the ones on-line.
>
>  
>
> I'll wait to see if anyone can translate the notation in that last column 
> for the boys between 15 and 18.
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:31:13 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> The 3 ports for the Azores are Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island, Angra 
> on Terceira island, and Horta on Faial island.  I don't know if it was 
> called a passaporte office, but people did register at the port.  
> Generally, they left from the port closest to home.  NOTE:  I said 
> generally.  Someone from Corvo (closest port would be Horta) could go all 
> the way over to Ponta Delgada (the furthest port) to emigrate out of the 
> Azores.  Since you are looking for people from Santa Maria island, the 
> nearest port would be Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island so I'd start there.
>
> You know more about the military conscription than I do.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Gracias of New Bedford, MA

2014-04-18 Thread Liliana Harris
I’m looking into a branch of the Gracia (Grace) family in and around New 
Bedford, MA. Father: Joseph. Mother: Emma, born in Azores about 1890. In 
this case, I can trace both to their antecedents, but the children, Gilbert 
and Nora (also known as Leonora) seem to disappear after 1920. I can 
understand the disappearance of the daughter, since she was older and might 
have married and taken her husband’s name, but I haven’t been able to find 
the son (even in death records) after the age of 5. Has anyone heard of 
this family or have leads on where to look next? Thank you.

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Members being hacked

2014-04-18 Thread Cheri Mello
Since the focus of this list is genealogy, I hope all of you know to delete
messages from members who send out random things.  We just had one about
weight loss or something.  Please delete.

When these things happen, I moderate the member until I hear back from them.

Thanks,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] It is harder for you to get thin

2014-04-18 Thread lisahbskt
Being in the shape of my life feels so good.  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Name of bride's parents

2014-04-18 Thread Maria Lima
Right hand page
Sixth and seventh line down

Can anyone read the entire name of they bride's father: I see MANOEL DA SOUZA 
then maybe "Resendes" (?)

And the brides mother has me stumped:  It looks like maybe it's Maria de a .


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1749-1766/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-C-1749-1766_item1/P114.html

Thank you, I hope someone can make this out; I've looked through obits and 
births and was successful with the father of the groom but I hope someone can 
help me.  

Thank you. 


Maria Elena 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Half-Orphans

2014-04-18 Thread Grace CM
 

Does anyone know what “half-orphan” in a California school record from 
1918 might mean? Unless I’m mistaken, the child has two living parents.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage Record

2014-04-18 Thread Dano
*Well, Fred, the record is the "record!" Until someone can come up with 
"credible" information to disprove what you've found, it is the only 
document with a date specific for Goncalo Mendes. Was Goncalo 110 yrs 
old when he died? Perhaps. If he was 110 yrs old at death, who, that 
was still living at that time, would "know" - absent a document that 
actually stated his date of birth. Did Goncalo, himself, even know when he 
was born? Most of our ancestors only had a vague idea, at best, of when 
they were born - they didn't live in an era that people needed that kind 
of information. We're at the point where there aren't many records left 
that can substantiate, or disprove, what you've found. Now the question 
becomes: "is it the [right] Goncalo Mendes," but, I wouldn't worry about 
that unless, or until, someone, using "credible" information, disputes your 
find **- so, take credit for your find (GOOD WORK)! *
* :)*
~~
On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:10:14 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>
> Dano, One other find that is possible match for Goncalo Mendes death 
> record. The record lists his age at death to be 110 years old!  Do you 
> think it's a match? The record is on the left page, second one down from 
> top.
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-O-1618-1673/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-O-1618-1673_item1/P25.html
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Fred Estrella 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dano, I might have found the record for Joao Mota b. abt 1636 shown on 
>> your pdf document. Hard to read because of abbreviations but I think this 
>> is his baptism record from Sao Pedro records having him born on 26 Feb 
>> 1635.  Let me know what you think: 
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642_item1/P92.html
>> .
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Fred Estrella 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dano,
>>> I did get the pdf. Thanks so much for this valuable info!  I'm curious, 
>>> was this tree a result of your own research or did you get it from another 
>>> source?
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dano >wrote:
>>>
 Sorry, Fred, its a brand new printer - I just haven't got my act 
 together. Will try again. I'm sending it as a ".pdf" file attachment - let 
 me know if it comes through readable...


 On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:56:06 AM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:

> Dano, what you attached to your email did not come out clear...just a 
> lot of HTML code. I would like to see what you posted. Could you try 
> another way?
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
>  
>
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Dano  wrote:
>
>>  Sebastiao's surname is "Mota. This family is descended from Goncalo 
>> Mendes: 
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:38:54 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>>
>>> I need help with the father's last name of groom for my 6ggf 
>>> Belchior de Souza. I can't decipher his last name, first name is 
>>> Sebastiam 
>>> (Sebastiao) da __. 
>>> The record is top right side: http://culturacores.azor
>>> es.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779/
>>> SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779_item1/P12.html
>>>
>>> Any help is appreciated.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage Record

2014-04-18 Thread Dano
Actually, this one isn't too bad - I've seen much worse. This link lists 
two baptisms for children named Joao - the correct one appears to be the 
upper left; the dates and the  parents appear to match the chart 
data, which was taken from the Carlos Machado Manuscripts. My opinion is 
that its a match.
~~
On Friday, April 18, 2014 1:17:11 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>
> Hi Dano, I might have found the record for Joao Mota b. abt 1636 shown on 
> your pdf document. Hard to read because of abbreviations but I think this 
> is his baptism record from Sao Pedro records having him born on 26 Feb 
> 1635.  Let me know what you think: 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642_item1/P92.html
> .
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Fred Estrella 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi Dano,
>> I did get the pdf. Thanks so much for this valuable info!  I'm curious, 
>> was this tree a result of your own research or did you get it from another 
>> source?
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dano >wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, Fred, its a brand new printer - I just haven't got my act 
>>> together. Will try again. I'm sending it as a ".pdf" file attachment - let 
>>> me know if it comes through readable...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:56:06 AM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>>
 Dano, what you attached to your email did not come out clear...just a 
 lot of HTML code. I would like to see what you posted. Could you try 
 another way?

 Thanks,
 Fred
  

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Dano  wrote:

>  Sebastiao's surname is "Mota. This family is descended from Goncalo 
> Mendes: 
>
> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:38:54 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>
>> I need help with the father's last name of groom for my 6ggf Belchior 
>> de Souza. I can't decipher his last name, first name is Sebastiam 
>> (Sebastiao) da __. 
>> The record is top right side: http://culturacores.azor
>> es.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779/
>> SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779_item1/P12.html
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Fred
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Maia Marriage circa 1750

2014-04-18 Thread Herb
Hello

I am searching for the parents of my ancestors Manuel  Pacheco and Barbara 
Macedo 
of Maia, Sao Miguel.  Maybe someone in the group has this family or has 
come across this family during their research? 

Barbara Macedo was  from Fenais da Ajuda and Manuel Pacheco was from  from 
Maia, but the Maia records are not up on the CCA site yet.  Barbara and 
Manuel were the  parents  of Antonio Pacheco de Medeiros who married in Maiaon 
11 
Jan 1769 to Antonia de Pimentel.

Thanks in advance for any information

Herb
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y dna Matches between Pico and Flores, looking for a list of original Flores settlers.

2014-04-18 Thread Antonio Faria
Thanks Joao I started reading it yesturday.

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 9:00:55 AM UTC-7, João Ventura wrote:
>
> You can find the books online at 
> http://www.azoreangenealogy.com/biblioteca_acoreana_livros.htm
>
> João Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
>
> On Thursday, 17 April 2014 06:03:20 UTC+2, Antonio Faria wrote:
>>
>> I haven't actually ever seen Volume VI only read articles that refer to 
>> it I believe it contains some genealogy to six islands Terceira, Faial, 
>> Pico, Flores, Graciosa and Sao Jorge.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 8:33:03 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't looked at that volume for Pico in at least 10, maybe 15 years, 
>>> but it's somewhere in my collection in storage. Maybe it's also online 
>>> these days...
>>>
>>> Doug da Rocha Holmes
>>> Sacramento, California
>>> Pico & Terceira Genealogist
>>> 916-550-1618
>>> www.dholmes.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   Original Message 
>>> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Y dna Matches between Pico and Flores,
>>> looking for a list of original Flores settlers.
>>> From: Antonio Faria 
>>> Date: Wed, April 16, 2014 8:24 pm
>>> To: azo...@googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> No I haven't been able to find Volume VI it is the only volume that 
>>> references Pico.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:36:51 PM UTC-7, Doug da Rocha Holmes 
>>> wrote:

 Primo Antonio,

 Did you ever look through Saudades da Terra for this info?
  

>>> 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Santa Cruz, Graciosa online

2014-04-18 Thread pico
Just found out why Graciosa is coming online before Ribeira Grande.It's because they had a lot of requests for Graciosa.So it pays to speak up.This also seems to mean there might not be any problem with the Ribeira Grande records. They are just going to be the in line to be uploaded. My question will then be what will follow Ribeira Grande? I hope it's the passports for Horta and Angra. I heard Horta's were already scanned. I don't think Angra's were scanned yet.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com 



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage Record

2014-04-18 Thread Fred Estrella
Dano, One other find that is possible match for Goncalo Mendes death
record. The record lists his age at death to be 110 years old!  Do you
think it's a match? The record is on the left page, second one down from
top.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-O-1618-1673/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-O-1618-1673_item1/P25.html

Fred


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Fred Estrella wrote:

> Hi Dano, I might have found the record for Joao Mota b. abt 1636 shown on
> your pdf document. Hard to read because of abbreviations but I think this
> is his baptism record from Sao Pedro records having him born on 26 Feb
> 1635.  Let me know what you think:
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642_item1/P92.html
> .
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Fred Estrella wrote:
>
>> Hi Dano,
>> I did get the pdf. Thanks so much for this valuable info!  I'm curious,
>> was this tree a result of your own research or did you get it from another
>> source?
>>
>> Fred
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dano  wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, Fred, its a brand new printer - I just haven't got my act
>>> together. Will try again. I'm sending it as a ".pdf" file attachment - let
>>> me know if it comes through readable...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:56:06 AM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>>
 Dano, what you attached to your email did not come out clear...just a
 lot of HTML code. I would like to see what you posted. Could you try
 another way?

 Thanks,
 Fred


 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Dano  wrote:

>  Sebastiao's surname is "Mota. This family is descended from Goncalo
> Mendes:
>
> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:38:54 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>
>> I need help with the father's last name of groom for my 6ggf Belchior
>> de Souza. I can't decipher his last name, first name is Sebastiam
>> (Sebastiao) da __.
>> The record is top right side: http://culturacores.azor
>> es.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779/
>> SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779_item1/P12.html
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> Fred
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Cheri Mello
I thought Joāo Ventura said Ponta Delgada digitized from the film. There
are only about 10 people left at the Family History Library and no one was
checking email. So no one may read this in time.
Cheri, at the airport
On Apr 18, 2014 3:52 PM, "Isabella Baltar" 
wrote:

> Maria Elena,
>
> All the original records from the Library and Archives from Angra do
> Heroismo are digitized "in loco", which means at the Library. After that,
> they send the digitized images to the CCA who is responsible to upload the
> images on the website.
>
> I don't know if this is the same procedure for Ponta Delgada Library and
> Archives, I believe so. Others from the list may answer this for you.
>
> Isabella Baltar
> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
>> copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
>> copy from the original records.
>> Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
>> someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
>> maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
>> a quick check.
>>
>> Just my thoughts
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar <
>> myportuguese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maria Elena,
>>>
>>> No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
>>> document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
>>> it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
>>> original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
>>> and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
>>> look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
>>> do restoration.
>>>
>>> Isabella Baltar
>>> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

 Upper left page
 Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
 de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
 staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
 enter this?  "Baby girl Bottelho" (?)

 Thank for looking.


 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html

 Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Isabella Baltar
Maria Elena,

All the original records from the Library and Archives from Angra do
Heroismo are digitized "in loco", which means at the Library. After that,
they send the digitized images to the CCA who is responsible to upload the
images on the website.

I don't know if this is the same procedure for Ponta Delgada Library and
Archives, I believe so. Others from the list may answer this for you.

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com




On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Marilyn Thompson wrote:

> Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
> copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
> copy from the original records.
> Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
> someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
> maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
> a quick check.
>
> Just my thoughts
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:26 AM, Isabella Baltar <
> myportuguese...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Maria Elena,
>>
>> No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
>> document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
>> it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
>> original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
>> and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
>> look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
>> do restoration.
>>
>> Isabella Baltar
>> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>>
>> On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>>
>>> Upper left page
>>> Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
>>> de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
>>> staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
>>> enter this?  "Baby girl Bottelho" (?)
>>>
>>> Thank for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>>> PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
>>>
>>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Marilyn Thompson
Does anyone know if the images on the CCA site are from the microfilmed
copies that the LDS Church made? Or have they (CCA) digitized their own
copy from the original records.
Just wondering if the repairs were made after the microfilmed copy. If
someone has access to the microfilmed copy at a Family History Center,
maybe they could check or ask someone at the Conference in Salt Lake to do
a quick check.

Just my thoughts




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wrote:

> Maria Elena,
>
> No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the
> document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out,
> it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the
> original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book
> and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy
> look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to
> do restoration.
>
> Isabella Baltar
> myportuguesegen.blogspot.com
>
> On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>
>> Upper left page
>> Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia
>> de Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried
>> staring at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you
>> enter this?  "Baby girl Bottelho" (?)
>>
>> Thank for looking.
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
>> PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
>>
>> Maria Elena
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Marriage Record

2014-04-18 Thread Fred Estrella
Hi Dano, I might have found the record for Joao Mota b. abt 1636 shown on
your pdf document. Hard to read because of abbreviations but I think this
is his baptism record from Sao Pedro records having him born on 26 Feb
1635.  Let me know what you think:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1617-1642_item1/P92.html
.

Fred


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Fred Estrella wrote:

> Hi Dano,
> I did get the pdf. Thanks so much for this valuable info!  I'm curious,
> was this tree a result of your own research or did you get it from another
> source?
>
> Fred
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dano  wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Fred, its a brand new printer - I just haven't got my act
>> together. Will try again. I'm sending it as a ".pdf" file attachment - let
>> me know if it comes through readable...
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:56:06 AM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>>
>>> Dano, what you attached to your email did not come out clear...just a
>>> lot of HTML code. I would like to see what you posted. Could you try
>>> another way?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Dano  wrote:
>>>
  Sebastiao's surname is "Mota. This family is descended from Goncalo
 Mendes:

 On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:38:54 PM UTC-4, fred_star wrote:
>
> I need help with the father's last name of groom for my 6ggf Belchior
> de Souza. I can't decipher his last name, first name is Sebastiam
> (Sebastiao) da __.
> The record is top right side: http://culturacores.azor
> es.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779/
> SMG-PD-MOSTEIROS-C-1701-1779_item1/P12.html
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Fred
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obit note in the margin of a baptism

2014-04-18 Thread Maria Lima
Thank you Margaret and Dano.  I didn't even think it referred to money.  
Learned something new!

Maria Elena 

> On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Margaret Vicente  
> wrote:
> 
> Maria, 
> 
> The something is the cost of the registration "um escudo e cincoenta 
> centavos" it's currency of $1.50 escudos.  Date of death is 15 June 1942.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Dano  wrote:
>> Pretty good, you got it all but the year (1941). 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:07:39 AM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>>> On the lower left for Gil 
>>> 
>>> In the margin. Of his baptismal record .  What I read is : 
>>> 
>>> The individual referred to in this record died in the parish of Sao 
>>> Sebastao in this city. 
>>> 
>>> Something something Ponta  Delgada...  Then Does it say 15 June 1946 
>>> (?).   
>>> 
>>> Thank you.   
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1870-1879_item1/P622.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Isabella Baltar
Maria Elena,

No one will be able to read the name of that child on that record as the 
document has a big loss on that corner. What you see is not ink washed out, 
it is a new piece of paper added in an effort to restore and give the 
original paper a more stable structure. Notice the other pages on that book 
and you will see the same pattern. Looking closer you can even see a glossy 
look, usually from kind of glassine paper that was used in earlier times to 
do restoration.

Isabella Baltar
myportuguesegen.blogspot.com

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:
>
> Upper left page 
> Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia de 
> Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried staring 
> at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you enter 
> this?  "Baby girl Bottelho" (?) 
>
> Thank for looking. 
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
>  
>
> Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Half Moon Bay, CA

2014-04-18 Thread Eddie Machado
Hi Romona,

I don't know much about Cardoza's. My great grandmother was Caroline
Cardoza Machado and her father was Manuel Cardoza. My understanding is
there is still Cardoza's in Half Moon Bay that maybe related to these
Cardoza's.


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Repost for Ramona Nason, nasongirlsmom at hotmail.com
>
> Hi Eddie, iam also on the search for Cardoza's. My GrGrandmother was a
> Correia and married Joseph Cardoza, they lived in Sausalito. I don't have
> much info and don't have any relatives left to ask. I have found census
> records with they in it, but that's all. So your post was exciting.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Impossible to read -almost

2014-04-18 Thread Dano
Staring at it won't help, no matter how young, or old, your eyes are - the 
ink has been washed away :) You could post it as "baby girl," but, you've 
also got some info that you can use to try to give her a name. You clearly 
have a dob & baptism, which may help you find the child who may have died 
within the first couple of years, or, who may have grown to adulthood, and 
married (perhaps +/- 20 yrs later. A, research, isn't it great... :)
~~

On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:00:45 PM UTC-4, Maria wrote:

> Upper left page 
> Name of the child . I know the parents are Antonio Bottelho and Antonia de 
> Jesus but all I can figure out is the child is a girl.  I've tried staring 
> at it but my old eyes aren't seeing through the ink.  How would you enter 
> this?  "Baby girl Bottelho" (?) 
>
> Thank for looking. 
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1755-1764_item1/P197.html
>  
>
> Maria Elena 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA researcher's list

2014-04-18 Thread Ken Waters
Hi Eliseu,

Please count me in as well.  I saw Colleen's note and was intrigued with
the mention of Bettancourt and Cunha as my Great Grandfather John Sylvia
*may* have previously gone by Joao de Cunha Bettancourt (according to an
uncle of mine) and was supposedly from Graciosa.  I am at the Azores
research conference this week in SLC and a cousin of mine (Edna) came upon
some interesting hints in the church records from Graciosa that may have
found his family.  Edna remembers hearing of a Maria Rosa who claimed to
have an uncle who may have been my John Sylvia.  It's all quite the mystery
but maybe it can be solved by working together.

Thanks much!

Ken Waters
Mesa, AZ



On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:

> Hi Eliseu:
>
> I would like to be added to your Graciosa list.  I am researching my
> grandparents, Francisco Sousa Rosa and Elvira Bettancourt Cunha.  Thanks to
> Joao Ventura I have found information for my grandmother Elvira.  I have
> been to Graciosa several years ago and saw my great grandmother, same name
> as grandmother,  gravestone in village of Santa Cruz.  My grandfather is my
> "Brick Wall".  I even wonder if he was really born there.  Both immigrated
> to Massachusetts at different times.   My great grandmother also immigrated
> to States but later went back to Graciosa.
>
> Thanks for adding my email.
>
> Colleen Wright
> searching Rosa, Cunha in Graciosa and Goncalves and Machado Silva in
> Teceira.
>
>
>  On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva <
> eliseuman...@sapo.pt> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Some time ago I have asked to GRACIOSA researchers to send me their email
>> addresses.
>>
>> I have sent now to everyone who answered back the list of the addresses.
>>
>> Now  I think it will be easier to contact among us.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will update that list if someone wants to participate on it J.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Eliseu Pacheco da Silva*
>>
>> Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo
>>
>> ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel )
>>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Guadalupe (Graciosa) marriages published in CCA

2014-04-18 Thread João Ventura
Hello again,

And yesterday, they uploaded the death and legitimization records. Again 
at http://tombo.pt/en/f/scg01

Regards,

João Ventura
http://tombo.pt/en

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> Hello everyone,
>
> Guadalupe marriages are up on CCA since yesterday. You can get the list 
> here: http://tombo.pt/f/scg01
>
> João Ventura
> http://tombo.pt/en
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Got my mtDNA Results

2014-04-18 Thread Joseph Costa
Cheri:  Thanks.  We are leaving for a cruise.  I won't be returning until late 
on 4/26.  We can always talk after that.  Joe


On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:18 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> When I get back home from the conference in Salt Lake, I will contact you.
> Cheri
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Joseph Costa  wrote:
> This may be a question for Cheri to answer for me.  I got my mtDNA full 
> sequence results today.  A bit overwhelming for me to try to interpret them.  
> There were 17 possible matches listed for me for the HVR1, HVR2, Coding 
> Region, one of whom is a lady from Italy who is an exact match, one has a 
> genetic distance of  2, and the fifteen people have a genetic distance of 3.  
> Looks like I'm part of Haplogroup 18.
> 
> Can someone help me interpret this?  
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